Sounds like you need to be posting here.

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If a competitor want to compete in their age group, so be it. Fast people are everywhere, deal with it.

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I don't believe you can race as a pro during the year and then later in the year race AG, due to the way the elite license is issued.

AG -> Pro yep.

You are a complete pussy and USAT's response is 100% on the money. Again, to reiterate the key point, you are a whining pussy. Toughen up a bit and stop making excuses.

I think that MultiSport Canada has come up with a good solution in the Recharge with Milk Triathlon Series in Ontario. In addition to Pro and AG categories, there is also an "Elite Age Group" category. Entrants are typically high level amateurs (possibly with some level of sponsorship) or ex-pros. You don't need an elite card to qualify, you just have to submit proof of meeting time standards. Since there is definitely a grey area between AG and pro, the EAG category serves as a catchall for these athletes.

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You are trying to stir up negative emotions about an athlete. You clearly have an axe to grind or you would not have brought it up. Do I need to restate my point again?

The way I read it a Pro can justr enter any AG race at any time, then immediately re apply for a Pro card.. I'm not sure thats a good idea, but I have no issue whatsoever with a Pro winning the OG retiring and race AGer. Seem like changing your status 1 x per year is reasonable, but maybe I read the policy wrong.

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X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I appreciate the sentiment! I don't race against her either, so tell me why you are bringing this up almost a year after it happened? My point is that your motive are not as innocent as you are trying to make it out to be. I don't know what it is, but saying you just "opened it up for discussion" is pretty transparent.

I have no problem with it and actually think it's pretty cool. Are ex-pros supposed to race pro forever? Susan is close to 45. How about Dave Scott? He's almost 60 and still kicking ass.

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Would it be appropriate to race against Lance A. as a amateur at nationals? I don't have a firm feeling either way but it does seem odd that a medal winner in the olympics in the same sport is in the same category as someone who competes in the amateur nationals who hopes to be on the US amateur team. And yes I don't mind someone calling be a name for my opinion but ....an opinion on the OP subject would be more interesting.

What do you propose the policy should be, then? That a once-pro needs to stay pro? For how long? Forever? She is 43 years old with a job and kids and could in no way compete as a pro at this point. Get her pro card, yes, but a 2:06 Olympic time isn't going to finish in the money at any race. So in essence you would prefer that she sit around in this athletic purgatory until she is slower and more on par with other AGers? That's hardly fair. I don't envy the position she is in but I still don't see any problem with the existing policy.

I didn't hear the comments last year after AG Nats but if they were anonymous whispers from the haters in the crowd I can guess what they were.

ETA: She's not in the start list for 2012 anyway.

USAT should absolutely not change the policy. If you can't beat them tough shit. Train more. AG Nationals is an elite race already. There shouldn't be an "amateur elite" wave at a championship event.

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But she was an ITU athlete, so she isn't very good cyclist right?

What is the issue here? Really? It's just about someone taking away hard age groupers' medals

Why is this a policy issue, because of one person? There are dozens of other should-be pros out there who don't card up. Where is the outrage there.
I agree that it's a little weird that Susan actually wants to bother to go to nationals to race age group, but she has the right.

What ever happened to the idea, "my competition is better, I should train harder and get better". Seems like you want it to be more like "My competition is better, I should get them disqualified"

I have no problem with it. There are amatures that beat current pros in the IM and 70.3 distances nearly every race. Should those be automatically pulled out of the amature ranks because of their abilities? I mean geez . . .that just wouldn't be fair for them to race against regular people anymore. They're too fast.

The time you've spent whining and trying to keep ex pros out of nats might be better used training if it means so much to you. I would say that it is my opinion that the folks we send to AG WORLDS should be pro-caliber athletes.

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It seemed like a good idea at the time. . .

So, if you think USAT should change it, then have you drafted a letter to USAT outlining your opinion and data to support that opinion? Have you attempted to get in contact with your regional USAT rep for discussion? Or attempted to become a USAT rep yourself to try to effect the change you feel is needed in the process?

Or has your entire campaign been a few one liners on an internet forum sprinkled with LMAO and implying that others are idiots for not immediately agreeing with you?

(I for one would be interested in the original question that you got the response from)

John

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This reminds me of the "should pro's be allowed to race collegiate nationals" thread. You raise your level. You're entering a competition. They make all of us better.

I think these folks complaining should just go race against 1st graders. She meets all the specs for an AGer, so she should go do her best and kick as much butt as she can. Anyone who even asks this questions needs to get over themselves. If they think they are fast, they are kidding themselves. A lot of the real fast folks have not need, or money, or ego, to worry about racing others. They just go race, and fast.

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Go post on beginnertriathlete. All the slow people will agree with you there.