What other forum does he have? He did the 60 minutes interview and other interviews for free. Books are a traditional way to release information.

Remember his website belivetyler.com? Looks like its been taken down, but the good news is you can still buy the merchandise here: http://www.cafepress.com/believetyler. I can somewhat understand someone lying to the doping agencies and others to protect your career initially, but this guy took it so far as to collect donations and sell crap to support a cause he knew was phoney. He was a local kid (grew up near where I lived for a long time) who did well, paid his dues on the circut, had a great story with the collarbone/grinding teeth, a nice little charity that collected used bikes for underprivledged families, and eventually went on to be a team leader at CSC and Phonak. If he just said "yeah, I did it like everyone else, sorry" and took his suspension, I'd have some residual admiration for him. Now, I think he's nothing but a douchebag. I wont give him the $1.25 or whatever royalty he gets by buying his book. Maybe I'll donate it to whatever charity his wife supports instead, she left the lying dipshit.

It took it really far. Like stratospheric levels of lying. But then, Lance Armstrong and co. were far better. They took the lying far far far away to an other galaxy...
So, I'll buy Tyler's book absolutely. He got caught. He was in a culture of cheating for over a decade, and everyone around him was lying and cheating, so he
just did the same, because that's all they knew, and maybe he didn't have the right support outside of cycling. It's not an excuse for what he did, but it surely helps
understand a bit the type of environment.

But I really have to laugh at those throwing rocks at Tyler and Floyd, when Lance has taken that to a whole new level...

Apartheid has been repealed since 1991, how old was Tyler when he defied this ban?

I understood the attitude/philosophy/motives of the UCI the day I went for an interview there (for a job). When the director of the UCI asked me what I thought about doping, his whole face froze when hearing my response, and that was the end of the interview (and of my chances to get the job).

It makes their whole attitude and way they treated riders like Obree even more un-stomachable. So worried about his inovations giving him an unfare advantage but supports a riding who is gaining an unfare advantage in another way.

It's very difficult. I'd suggest the numbers are the opposite: 95% getting caught.

If your girlfriend cheated on you, lied about it when you asked why she was suddenly spending so much time working late with a coworker, and then finally it comes out that she's having an affair, would you trust her?

The correct answer is no. And not ever trusting someone who has lied is a primary principle of the legal system.

Would that not exclude all testimony?

Shane

Sam's pretty much down to making shit up as (s)he goes along at this point...

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95% of cheaters are getting caught?? Either you didn't read DSW's previous message carefully, or you're way way off base.

I wonder what Lance would have done if he had got caught? Would he have taken the Dave Millar route and at least shown some remorse, or would have have gone down the "I am innocent" path like Hamilton.

If it is as it looks increasingly to be the case that Armstrong did dope then he has also lied, but he still has many fans.

What I find hard is the way different riders are treated. Some riders are found to be doping and no Pro Tour team would touch them with a barge pole or they at least have to work back up to a major team while others are welcomed back with open arms. Some riders lie and they are forgiven by many. Vervaldi hasn't ever put is hand up or shown any remorse dispite the fact that there was DNA evidence yet he still has many fans cheering him in the Vuelta and he was give a warm return to his team. Virenque lied through his teeth but came bounding back. It aslo annoys me that in other sports

If it is the case that Hincapie did dope it is annoying that he has got to end his career on his terms as a hero with no punishment.

Perhaps given that it seems many of the top riders of that era were doping perhaps a line should be drawn and we should just look forward?

In someways you feel sorry for riders of that era as it is likely many of the Cycling greats before them doped but will still be viewed fondly. Also other sports it is just brushed under the carpet to keep the ££$ rolling in from sponsors.

There are certain people you feel need to be removed from Cycling for it fully heal (Riis for one).

He got caught. And went the route: who do I need to pay?

Really? You think she was innocent in all of that? I seem to remember her maiden name being on some sort of receipt in the Puerto documents and then BOTH of them going on TV and lying up a storm about it...

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The list of positives the UCI is rumored to have swept under the rug is long. Lance hasn't been the only benefactor of their corruption...

Hey, collectors: this stuff is going to be worth big bucks someday as historical 'artifacts' of a huge blunder. Seriously. Kind of like that old US stamp where they printed the airplane on it upside down. That super rare stamp is worth a bundle, nearly a million bucks.

So stock up now while you can ...

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We must haves been in the same local races. I remember that too. Another thing I remember is that all the locals who supported him wore his foundation kits with the "I Believe" logo that had a little blood drop, referring to his situation at the time. How disgusting that Tyler allowed his friends to do that knowing inside that he'd humiliate them in the end.

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Take it however you want it, in the end the question has nothing to do with my point and you still don't know my answer to it...despite thinking you do.

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1) No I simply used a word that aptly describes what some people think of Armstrong in this whole thing.

2) I think it's funny when people start demanding answers to questions that are clearly them trying to avoid the point being made and trying to set someone up to bash them. If you really were interested in my thoughts you would first discuss the point I have made a few times instead of trying to set me up.

Hello. I'm earth. Have we met?

"There are certain people you feel need to be removed from Cycling for it fully heal (Riis for one). "


You're gonna need a bigger boat.

So, is the logical extension of this is, that if Armstrong confessed to doping, you wouldn't believe his confession because he had previously lied when proclaiming his innocence?

60 minutes for free!!!!! I don't think so

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Sorry, I wasn't being specific enough. I was responding to post about the corruptness of UCI and was referencing to McQuaid.

Side note, guess who else was with McQuaid on that trip?

Hero! For sure.