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We all think you are a fucking idiot.

Why give it away? I was hoping to have more of a go-around with the likes of BryanD.

Just when I thought no-one could be that fucking stupid, you go and prove me wrong. I have pretty low expectations for most people’s intelligence, but you managed to even fail to live up to that. Congratulations, you win the dumbfuck of the week award.

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I’ve really been waiting for an opportunity to use this quote. So thank you for providing one!

“If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.” - Derek Bok.

The OP is an ignorant asshat.

But again, thanks for the opportunity!....dick.

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The FIGHT for women´s rights

Someone with your intelligence shouldn't be arguing for meritocratic pay.

This thread is a perfect example of what's wrong with this country. Instead of debating the OPs point in a civilized manner, everyone just attacks them for having an opinion that's different and counter to prevailing opinions.

To respond to the OPs question, I support equal payouts at this level because they are all professionals and as a private enterprise, Ironman has decided to pay equally.

I find it a more interesting debate at the local race level (speaking from a bike racing perspective and not tris), on the pros/cons of equal payouts. I've seen where I live that equal payouts doesn't necessarily draw more women to the races. In some case the promotors lose money on the women's field. So the debate would be should they lose money in the name of equal payouts, or base payouts on attendance (which I think was the point the OP was originally asking)? Personally I support a race promotors right to base their race's payouts on whatever they want, since it's a business decision and their decision can (and sometimes does) impact the number of participants they have (and their revenue).

Whoa. You managed to click through to my profile and find out my name. That was not even a clever retort, boyfriend.

You'll notice that my f-bomb was one of many - perhaps you pay more for f-bombs from men, who apparently think you're as much of an idiot as I do. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. Can I do better? Of course. Are you worth the time or effort? Fuck no.

Female pros pay the same $900 for their WTC license that the males pay. Also, are you just assuming financial impact is equal to male vs. female entries in races?

Either way that post is one of the most idiotic things ever posted here. At no point in your incoherent ramblings did you come close to a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for reading your post. You are awarded no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

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To suggest that the women's Ironman World Champion, who raced the same race on the same course on the same day as the professional men - and handily beat a number of them - should be paid fewer dollars for that achievement is not expressing a contrary view, it is being deliberately inflammatory. Or, trolling, if you'd prefer to call it straight.

It's Sunday and I'm tired and I Just. Can't. Even. with the idea that people think that women have equal access to triathlon, and even more so in cycling. To try and address pay-for-attendance without also addressing historic lack of accessibility to sports (50 Women to Kona? Where's the women's Tour de France?) for women is to be so incredibly tone deaf and ignorant of history that I can't help you.

Wait, you don’t think women have equal access to cycling or triathlon (I’m specially talking local level)? I agree the OPs post was tilting towards trolling, but I stand by my point of lack of debate and straight into attacks is a problem we all need to resolve if we as a society want to move forward.

There is no debating this fucktard’s position in a civilized manner, because he is simply a troll who isn’t particularly interested in having an honest debate. Even other trolls are embarrassed by the stupidity of this troll.

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Does anyone else find it troubling that the men and women are receiving equal prize purse distributions dispite the fact that women only make up 28% of the field?

IM makes it's money as a package, they don't have a men's race and a women's race, they all go at the same time. There have always been arguments for different purses in things like tennis and golf but they are distinct matches and often, distinct tournaments where they are not going head to head. Triathlon is a package sport and sports pay for airtime or advertising space based on the event, not on how many men or women there are participating.

They are doing the same course and experiencing the same conditions, it would be outrageous to offer different prize money. The effort should be to equalize participation.

Why do you think that the gender distribution of the field and--going along with your extended reasoning--viewership, etc., should determine the purse? Is there some sort of logic to this?

Finally, a coherent argument amidst the diatribe.

Not agreeing with him, but I’d be curious as to what you’d propose to close the pay gap in something like pro basketball.

I’ll grab the popcorn.

As for triathlon, I see it like Price is Right. Everyone showed up to the same show, so shouldn’t matter what the winner “is”. Imagine if women on Price is Right won less at the same show.

Finally some logical depate you agree with. How about what were they doing out the kitchen in the first place?

Shit! I knew I turned the wrong way after I'd finished scrubbing the toilet.

You must be a virgin

I didn't read the whole thread but I don't watch any race for the men. When I watch the ITU races I always seem to watch the women's race first.

thanks for making me smile this morning

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i see your point.

BUT. women make up a smaller percent of the pro field because IM limits the amount of women compared to men. unless you're talking about amateur ranks as well?

i'm sure IM as thought of this, and i'm sure it has been brought up at board meetings. but their goal is to increase female participation, and viewership. what they are doing is investing in women, which honestly, is a good idea. we're close to, if not at saturation for male participation. i see more and more opportunity for growth via woman, and i'm sure IM see's that as we...

i don't think you meant any harm towards woman, but this is an internet forum. work on your delivery.

john

I think you are conflating two different things. 1) You seem to be assuming that because the make-up of the Kona field is heavily weighted towards male participants that females don't have a larger representation in other IM races in general. That may or may not be the case (I don't know the actual % breakdown), but making an overarching assumption based upon one race and it's relatively small sample size seems like a poor decision. 2) Unlike other sports (e.g. basketball) where there is a clear way to distinguish the revenue generated (advertising, merchandise, etc.) by the males participants vs the female participants (hence the massive delta in pay)... I think as others have argued it is much more difficult to do that in the sport of Triathlon (hence the "package deal" argument). Therefore, if there is no discernible way to breakdown the delta... the logical thing is to have pay/prize purse parity.

That all said...wow! The amount of virtue signaling and faux outrage here is astonishing. I had no idea that so many STers (who seem to take pleasure in being complete a$$holes) would get their knickers all knotted up over you asking a question -- even if it was loaded and looking to be incendiary

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My wife and I only tuned in for the women field. I gravitate towards the women in Triathlon, tennis, soccer, and gymnastics.