I think Voeckler would be better off sliding back to the Basso group which is pretty large and getting some shelter all the way up Galibier...the downhill from Galibier to Bourg D'Oisan favours a large group as it in non technical and you have to pedal all the way....a large group working together could pull back time on the Contador group, because neither Contador, nor the Schlecks will want to pull for ~40 K before starting up Alpe D'Huez....the entire downhill from the top of Galibier /Lauteret to Bourg D'Oisnans will also always be into a headwind in the late afternoon....it's not a free ride downhill. A large group could theoretically pull back a lot of time. It's more false flat downhill than pure downhill

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Yeah I think certain pros and DS just can't handle the fact that Johan train-gang is not the only way to win a grand tour. over and over again.

and obviously a great meat-schedule too


and a great job of doping well too =_

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

Mark my words: he's catching them before the summit. He looks good now.

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Citizen of the world, former drunkard. Resident Traumatic Brain Injury advocate.

You remind me of the guys on cycling forums who are consumed with hate for all things related in any way to Armstrong. They are as bad as the anti- liberal or conservative nut jobs.

Move on, the Armstrong era is over find something else to be obsessed about.

wonderful another doping conversation...

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“He is happy whose circumstances suit his temper but he is more excellent who can suit his temper to any circumstances” David Hume

Ned's here early today. I would have figured he would waited until AdH to appear....

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Riding the Awesome Train With: Dark Horse Coaching

There is this other thread on the go about Voeckler not using a power meter. It's one thing for him to go at AS/AC pace following them, another thing for his to do the same speed solo. My prediction is that he blows spectacularly on Alpe D'Huez. He either needs to catch AC/AS before the right turn on Galibier before it becomes really steep or his race is over. He'd be better off sliding back to Basso and Evans.

Edit: I really do hope that Voeckler proves me 100% wrong. I'm a fan of how he has ridden!

What is that supposed to mean?

Did Andy just take a turn on the front?

Honey badger don't care.

Not doubting he'll crack on AdH, but I admire the guy's attitude.

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Citizen of the world, former drunkard. Resident Traumatic Brain Injury advocate.

Sitting in no-man's land like this will cost him on AdH.

I'm totally consumed!

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
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Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

I think he just wanted to let AC see the lack of effort on his face.

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Suffer Well.

Voeckler is blowing his load early.

He's going down swinging.

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De que depende?

good call. should not have got drawn in. will pretend he isn't here.

he turned like 4 pages of tour thread to shit yesterday

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

He's going down swinging, at no one as he's all by himself

Voeckler Voeckler!!! PERIOD!

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

No he just using his "internal powermeter" and pacing himself

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Suffer Well.

Hincapie at the front of the peleton trying to claw it back. GO GO GO!

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

I know...it's killing me watching this boy in no man's land. I predict that Cadel and the boys close the gap on Contador by the base of ADH. That's where Voeckler should be riding! This is insane. The only reason the gap is "closed" is because the leaders hit the steep and Voeckler was still on the 5%

Get it back!

haha. so true.

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