Pretty broad generalization there, huh? "They".... While I agree that the off-road scene is more laid back, there are all kinds of cool fun road runners and cyclists out there.

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I am currently living in Tampa FL. Everybody has a Brady jersey. I didn't realize the rainbow jersey bothered people. I'd totally rock one just to annoy the elitist prigs in their exclusive group rides around her.

But I'm not a white shirt kinda guy. Maybe I'll get the Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon jersey. People can yell at me for not really being in the band. Heck I'm not even British.

Guess I'll scratch the Brooks label off my running shorts because I'm not sponsored by Brooks.

I don't know, I do both MTB, and road and trail running (per my handle), and don't see that much of a difference. Everyone has their little cliques and put-downs. Human nature is what it is. There is a certain cohort of "prof-amateur" roadie who are real jerks, but I think everyone learns to ignore them pretty quick, and doesn't let them dictate enjoyment of the sport.

Should not have worded that way. There are subsets within these groups. Usually the faster people or the think they are are faster people.

Agreed. But unfortunately where I ride most think they are pro's so they have the mentality that I don't care to be around.

Cool story on the TT outfit!

Usually around here for road it is the Cat 1/2 folks. And the "almost pro" who rode for some little tiny conti outfit for a year one time and is back at weeknight worlds to feel good about destroying some Cat 4/5 riders.

There was some BS along those lines at a weeknight worlds from a dude like that when I wore our company's team kit. We sponsor Team Novo and get free kit time to time. So......... I wear it. It's "race fit" and a perfect weeknight worlds outfit. I often wear it in case a customer notices, as a lot of the customers are fans of the race team and it strikes up a conversation that makes the community closer together of diabetic folks. As usually the customer also has the team kit on.

I think that's an interesting take on the situation and I agree.

Looking through someone else's eyes to see their point can shed light on the issue.

Not sure why it bothers you. It's the same as people wearing Lebron James or Jordan jerseys, or their favorite football player or futball player.

It's a sign of respect. They obviously aren't the WC.

I think it's exclusionary and fastist to have a winner in the first place. Every finisher should be the winner, and get every type of jersey, including the world champion.

Although I have never come first in anything in my life, as a Person who Identifies as "world champion," I am aghast at the constructs of winner and not winner. We are all world champions!

edit; I went to the internet and my brain is now broken. From Understanding Cyclist Indentity and Related Interaction Strategies (https://www.sciencedirect.com/...ii/S1369847816303539)

On another forum I frequent, there's a recent thread on just this issue, generating some 70 posts and exhibiting a level of pearl clutching rarely seen from someone not named Helen Lovejoy.

You mean to tell me the 220 lb guy I passed on a commute to work is NOT a road cycling world champion? But I already bragged online how I beat the guy on all the important Strava segments.

There's a few things I dont do in sports and sports gear:

-I dont as a mid 30's guy wear team sport jerseys to sporting events or watch parties.
-I dont bring a ball glove to a baseball game anymore
-i dont ask for autographs
-either of those rules are "allowed" to be broken if said guy is a dad of a kid....that's a fun ass bonding experience
-i dont wear WC / team kits of teams I never rode for.


But that's just me and I get people will do what they are going to do. So if it gets them out to a group ride and experiencing the fun in sports, by all means.....I just won't do it, and I may think it's "wrong" but again it's just my personal take (that I keep to myself). I'll give them a kudos for coming out and enjoying the sport regardless.

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why are you anti-free speech? /s

That is my aspiration - to be known as that one who's NOT a complete asshole

Humility is the key; for me anyway

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So you want less money being spent in the sport?

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These are not the same. With the possible exception of you, no one thinks some random guy they see riding around wearing a world championship jersey won the world championships. Same way they don't think some guy riding around in a yellow jersey was leading the Tour De France. Same way they don't think some guy they see wearing a pro team kit actually rides for that team. Also, none of the people wearing those jerseys are pretending to have done any of that.

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I'll avoid buying anything that fills the corrupt UCI coffers.

Here's the team shirt I'm most happy to wear in my super-fan-dom.

https://www.totalcycling.com/...ersey/m-m-22323.aspx

Pukka Pies. PROPER cycling fuel.

Have her watch clips of the rainbow warrior. Much more entertaining. (hint - NASCAR 93 wins)

I agree with all of the above. I rarely wear a sport team shirt. Never owned a jersey of a player-hope I would never get one as a gift. I don't care if others wear them or have them. It's just not for me. I wouldn't ever purchase a WC jersey for cycling, but could care less if my buddy did. In the end it's just a jersey. I don't care what others wear.

interesting point, to paraphrase, one is buying the jersey from a team so the teams are making money and one is therefore supporting the team. I can buy that argument. I find it interesting how people conflate the idea that there is a congruence between being elitist, and not thinking that wearing a champion's jersey is ok. There are far more nuances to the argument than that.

she's the purest kind of fan. just loves seeing athletes go for it, and picks favourites based on who's wearing cool colours, or who has red hair like her, or who's looking the most hardcore.

lately we've been watching cyclocross, and she's been saying she might want to get an orange jersey, because the orange girls (team holland) are really fast.

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The last time this came up in ST I also posted this quote:

Graeme Obree , who famously broke the world hour record twice riding a homemade bike made from old washing machine parts , and who also wore the rainbow stripes of individual track pursuit world champion in 1993 and 1995, takes the opposite view:

"It's grand to see those jerseys being worn by amateurs out for a ride, it shows a real appreciation for what is an iconic symbol of our sport. Instead of being all precious about it, we should be thankful that people still want to wear these jerseys after all the drug-taking that's gone on in the sport."

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Group stereotypes aren't just created out of thin air, generally they are created for a reason and roadies have well and truly earned the stereotype of being elitist dicks. Triathlon "teams" and triathletes at training camps are starting to give roadies a run for their money.
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I have a British & Irish Lions Performance Kit, I have a US Eagles Kit, I have an All Blacks kit. I have previously worn these three all too Rugby Practice and at bars when watching games.

I also have a Josh Amberger kit that Wattie Ink sold.

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There are a series of Rules regarding all aspects of kit-wear



https://www.velominati.com/

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin