I wasn't really disagreeing with you; if I had to put money on anyone I'd almost always bet on AC. He just seems to "get" it better than Andy (as much as one can tell from TV/media). Just saying that today it didn't mean as much as it could have.
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Carl Spackler]
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [justkeepedaling]
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justkeepedaling wrote:
It looked like the Schlecks were leading the chase group to me for a LONG time, just saying. Everyone else was trying to hang onNo, everyone else was happy to let them do the work to bring back AC. Why would they bother coming around when Frandy were being forced to close that gap?
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [superphil]
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superphil wrote:
justkeepedaling wrote:
It looked like the Schlecks were leading the chase group to me for a LONG time, just saying. Everyone else was trying to hang onNo, everyone else was happy to let them do the work to bring back AC. Why would they bother coming around when Frandy were being forced to close that gap?
From the EuroSport feed I was watching, I'm not even sure they knew where the Evans/Schleck group was. I thought for sure, AC had gapped everyone, and then right at the line, the GC group shows up. Was a bit surprised they made the gap.
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Quantum]
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Who cares about the GC ;-)
This Thor de France is all about Norway. Two Norwegians in the tour, 4 stage wins, ttt win and yellow jersey.
Heia Norge
This Thor de France is all about Norway. Two Norwegians in the tour, 4 stage wins, ttt win and yellow jersey.
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [superphil]
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Correct
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Macho Grande]
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Waiting for Cadel to attack? I guess you haven't followed him since winning the world championships two years ago.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [brooks@AllOut]
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I'd say it's also clear that while Andrea has Frandy, Contador has Sanchez. Something else for the sisters to think about.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [James Haycraft]
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Yeah, agree with you.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Carl Spackler]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
Waiting for Cadel to attack? I guess you haven't followed him since winning the world championships two years ago.You think Cadel will have an "off" day or has he matured to completely not bonk on one of the few remaining BIG mountain stages. I think AC is the favorite right now.
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Carl Spackler]
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Ok, I should have said "In the Tour de France."
If he ever attacked going uphill, I'd not only fall out of my chair, I'd shit myself. He sits on wheels and doesn't attack. Sure it's a good strategy, but as they Hinault said on Eurosport "Ruder should attack; go out at beat someone."
Bob
If he ever attacked going uphill, I'd not only fall out of my chair, I'd shit myself. He sits on wheels and doesn't attack. Sure it's a good strategy, but as they Hinault said on Eurosport "Ruder should attack; go out at beat someone."
Bob
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [brooks@AllOut]
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That for sure is the BIG question. To be fair, I didn't think Cadel had a shot in this race but damn if he doesn't look like a different rider. I'm still not convinced he (or anyone) can follow Contador on an epic stage but we'll soon find out.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Macho Grande]
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Macho Grande wrote:
Ok, I should have said "In the Tour de France." If he ever attacked going uphill, I'd not only fall out of my chair, I'd shit myself. He sits on wheels and doesn't attack. Sure it's a good strategy, but as they Hinault said on Eurosport "Ruder should attack; go out at beat someone."
Bob
But at this point in the game, if he rides wheels, he wins the Tour. It's that simple.
Edit: I still think Evans is going to have his trade mark "off" day and finish well off the pace. BUT, if he can ride wheels when AC attacks, he's going to win the Tour. I just dont see that happening.
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Macho Grande]
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Yesterday he went on the attack with Contador and then dropped him and Sanchez on the super sketchy descent. He also attacked Sunday.
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Carl Spackler]
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Cadel has rode the smartest race of anyone in this Tour among the GC guys. He's stayed up front during flat stages, stayed out of danger, has good team support, and has been able to follow the right attacks each time and then been able to respond with his own digs. He really has ridden an fantastic Tour, almost one of those too good to be true rides, where something has to go wrong, right, lol?
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [brooks@AllOut]
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things never HAVE to go wrong.
but they always CAN
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but they always CAN
Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [Carl Spackler]
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Cadel will not attack because he thinks if everyone stays behind him like they are, he will get all the time he could possibly need in the TT to win.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [jackmott]
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J, The difference is that the guys today don't go up to the front like Merkcx used to and just ride them off the wheel. When Cancelara did it at P-R everyone was mezmorized.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [eganski]
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Andy and Frank are so escared that . . .
You keep saying that is if it's a word.
You keep saying that is if it's a word.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [AlanShearer]
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AlanShearer wrote:
Andy and Frank are so escared that . . . You keep saying that is if it's a word.
It is in my part of the world, too.
Last night I heard "estand."
Suffer Well.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [jmh]
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Do you drink esprite? (Three syllable word.)
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [lacticacid]
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J, The difference is that the guys today don't go up to the front like Merkcx used to and just ride them off the wheel. When Cancelara did it at P-R everyone was mezmorized.and that is because you need to be like 10% stronger than the rest of the field to do that, and nobody except fabian on a great day is like that anymore.
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Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [AlanShearer]
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I drink cokadiet.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [jgarza22]
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Cadel will not attack because he thinks if everyone stays behind him like they are, he will get all the time he could possibly need in the TT to win.And he would be right to think that he doesn't have to attack. Being only 1:18 behind Voekler, he is effectively in the yellow jersey. He can take that time back in the TT easily, and he has more than enough time to hold off Contador in the TT. Andy and Frank will each lose at least 40-60 seconds in the TT, so he has no reason to attack. He just needs to defend his position to win.
Re: Stage 17 (Spoilers within) [jgarza22]
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Other than Voeckler, I'd think he wants to take a little more back before the TT. Cadel has shown a willingness to attack when it makes sense tactically.
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superphil wrote:
justkeepedaling wrote:
It looked like the Schlecks were leading the chase group to me for a LONG time, just saying. Everyone else was trying to hang onNo, everyone else was happy to let them do the work to bring back AC. Why would they bother coming around when Frandy were being forced to close that gap?
From the EuroSport feed I was watching, I'm not even sure they knew where the Evans/Schleck group was. I thought for sure, AC had gapped everyone, and then right at the line, the GC group shows up. Was a bit surprised they made the gap.
Yeah, I think they even commented as such.
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