Ah the vociferous defense of an indefensible position. Please continue.

My position is actually defendable, as well as I am 100% accurate.

Please state, for the record, one prepubescent child that Sutton was accused/convicted of. It cannot be pedophelia without that.

What is incredibly offensive, however is how you deminish and belittle ALL real victims of pedophilia. Say for example all the children that were molested my Rev Paul Shanley. That is a real pedophile

But I am not surprised. Lance Supporters are in denial, no matter how much the truth comes out, that their Binkie was a cheater, a liar, harassed, intimidated and is probably one of the most corrupt athletes in history

That is what is indefensible. You can try and defect and make this about Sutton. It is not. It is about Lance.

You can try and twist it and say I support Sutton, but that would be a lie, as I have already stated, but then again, I am sure you could care less about lying... After all, if you take after your binkie, you will do and say what ever you have to, no matter what you do underneath is really the true guilt.

So please.

Paul Shanley is a pedophile, Sutton is an Ephebophile. How old was Suttons victim?

Why do you keep refusing to answer that simple question???

How old?

Then again. We have come to expect this from the Lance-Bots.

Glad I don't live in their delussional world

More importantly, what does it say about someone who not only lies for 10+ years, but harasses and sues others around them, all the time continuing to lie, and then when finally caught, basically says... Hey if I admit I was a complete cheat, liar, and fraud, can I play again???

Does not surprise me Lance-Bots want to focus on anything else other than Lance... nor the fact that they will lie, try to twist the truth, etc.

Suck on the teet of a false god for too long, and you too become corrupted.

This was not in the USADA report. If true, it would've been in the report.

The UCI payment was mentioned. This issue has equal weight for me.

I don't understand why Tygart would have held this info.

I'm sure the 60 Minutes show will make it more clear.

My position is actually defendable, as well as I am 100% accurate.

Please state, for the record, one prepubescent child that Sutton was accused/convicted of. It cannot be pedophelia without that.

What is incredibly offensive, however is how you deminish and belittle ALL real victims of pedophilia. Say for example all the children that were molested my Rev Paul Shanley. That is a real pedophile

But I am not surprised. Lance Supporters are in denial, no matter how much the truth comes out, that their Binkie was a cheater, a liar, harassed, intimidated and is probably one of the most corrupt athletes in history

That is what is indefensible. You can try and defect and make this about Sutton. It is not. It is about Lance.

You can try and twist it and say I support Sutton, but that would be a lie, as I have already stated, but then again, I am sure you could care less about lying... After all, if you take after your binkie, you will do and say what ever you have to, no matter what you do underneath is really the true guilt.

So please.

Paul Shanley is a pedophile, Sutton is an Ephebophile. How old was Suttons victim?

Why do you keep refusing to answer that simple question???

How old?

Then again. We have come to expect this from the Lance-Bots.

Glad I don't live in their delussional world

More importantly, what does it say about someone who not only lies for 10+ years, but harasses and sues others around them, all the time continuing to lie, and then when finally caught, basically says... Hey if I admit I was a complete cheat, liar, and fraud, can I play again???

Does not surprise me Lance-Bots want to focus on anything else other than Lance... nor the fact that they will lie, try to twist the truth, etc.

Suck on the teet of a false god for too long, and you too become corrupted.

She was 14.

My position is actually defendable, as well as I am 100% accurate.

Please state, for the record, one prepubescent child that Sutton was accused/convicted of. It cannot be pedophelia without that.

What is incredibly offensive, however is how you deminish and belittle ALL real victims of pedophilia. Say for example all the children that were molested my Rev Paul Shanley. That is a real pedophile

But I am not surprised. Lance Supporters are in denial, no matter how much the truth comes out, that their Binkie was a cheater, a liar, harassed, intimidated and is probably one of the most corrupt athletes in history

That is what is indefensible. You can try and defect and make this about Sutton. It is not. It is about Lance.

You can try and twist it and say I support Sutton, but that would be a lie, as I have already stated, but then again, I am sure you could care less about lying... After all, if you take after your binkie, you will do and say what ever you have to, no matter what you do underneath is really the true guilt.

So please.

Paul Shanley is a pedophile, Sutton is an Ephebophile. How old was Suttons victim?

Why do you keep refusing to answer that simple question???

How old?

Then again. We have come to expect this from the Lance-Bots.

Glad I don't live in their delussional world

More importantly, what does it say about someone who not only lies for 10+ years, but harasses and sues others around them, all the time continuing to lie, and then when finally caught, basically says... Hey if I admit I was a complete cheat, liar, and fraud, can I play again???

Does not surprise me Lance-Bots want to focus on anything else other than Lance... nor the fact that they will lie, try to twist the truth, etc.

Suck on the teet of a false god for too long, and you too become corrupted.

The UCI payment was mentioned. This issue has equal weight for me.

I don't understand why Tygart would have held this info.

I'm sure the 60 Minutes show will make it more clear.

Buttered or Plain?

LA to give interview on Oprah this ThursdayChannelirst interview since this all went down. Haven't seen this anywhere & I'm sure someone will start a thready.

As I said before Ben If that Qui Tam lawsuit by the doper is succesfull I will donate $100 to the Eleonore Rocks charity in your name

Uh, for non-attorneys... is the Qui Tam case the Floyd whistleblower case?

Might have been mentioned earlier in thread but didn't want to look back 11 fricken' pages.

I beg to differ with you on this point. The report noted the UCI payment, but not the USADA payment?

Sorry this seems suspect and weird.

Also, another interesting note is the ESPN 60 minutes report will be on Showtime -- Really?