Did you catch the woman trying to run out of the water with her wetsuit completely off except for one leg? Had the rest bundled up in her arms and kept having to gather it in while trying to run. Every time that leg stepped forward it would yank it out of her arms again. I think if I went to the trouble to get it down to one leg left in the suit while still in the water I'd just go ahead and finish removing it. Of course, she's there and I'm not so I'm not really qualified to say much. I just don't understand making it more difficult for no good reason.

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so they get credited with finishing the swim just because they stood up? I wonder how many are not going to make it?

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Yeah, that was a bit bizarre...

Jodi

so really that HSBC arch doesn't mean shit. So can they be in the dismount position on the bike with 20 miles to go when the time expires to make the cut off too?

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"Madonna Buder has completed the swim in 1:31:18, all at the young age of 77."

Athletes like this impress me more than anything else at races. Last I heard her goal was to open up the womens 80+ age group at Kona

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Bike - 65 Km 1. KIERAN DOE 2. WOLFGANG GUEMBEL 8:00 3. TORSTEN ABEL 8:05 4. JONATHAN CARON 8:07 5. MARKUS RESSLER 8:09 6. JAMIE CLEVELAND 9:47 7. JORDAN RAPP 11:00 8. KYLE MARCOTTE 13:01 9. SCOTT CURRY 13:07 10. ANDRIY YASTREBOV 13:30

[reply]i guessed him 6min back of doe out of the water, so 4:12 back is a great swim for him. if he'd have been bale to hang onto that 51min pack... argh...

i'm guessing he carves 1min out of doe for every 15mi of riding until he catches him, which oughta be at about 60mi in. then i think he'll take 1min out of him every 10mi. i'll guess rapp into T2 with a 5min lead on the major contenders.[/reply]

You must have missed how Doe was riding in Roth for instance...I doubt very much anyone is going to end up in the same zip code at the end of the ride.

Did you catch the interview with the girl out of the water at 2:28.....Mike Reilly asked her if she was coming back next year and her response was, "No - but I'll be going to the World Championships in Kona instead". Who are these people?????

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[reply]Did you catch the interview with the girl out of the water at 2:28.....Mike Reilly asked her if she was coming back next year and her response was, "No - but I'll be going to the World Championships in Kona instead". Who are these people?????[/reply]



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if you are people like gordo (and others) using the "patience" strategy and save it for the run and you are now in a position where its getting difficult to think this strategy will result in the win, when do you to say to yourself on the bike its time to push harder than you'd prefer if you want to have any chance of winning? most of us are racing ourselves - not others, but if you are a pro going for the win you have to think adjustments in strategy are required based on how others are doing on the day.....i.e. someone being 20 mins ahead of you half way through the bike. Peter Reid commented on this about why he did not get closer to Stadler in 2004....did not adjust his strategy based on what others were doing on the day. Or maybe they can't go faster on the bike regardless....possibility I guess.

I am not sure that is possible. You race what you train. If you didn't have it in you in the first place to go faster on the bike then how does having someone farther in front of you suddenly make you able to go faster on the bike and still turn the same run time.

I could see if you are a minute or two behind where you thought you would be but that is alot more.


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My buddy Wolfgang seems to be riding well in second, I think he's got the potential to run 3:00-05ish if things are clicking. Today could be a big step in his career if he's able to stay in the mix.

Gordo is a smart experienced racer and experienced on hauling ass on this course. I don't think he'll give up double digits to anyone except Doe and Rappstar on the bike. Rappstar will need to run sub 3:10 and Jonnyo will need to run sub 3 cause I bet Gordo comes flying through in around 2:50 :-). Either way, I am cheering for all three of these dudes, and I just hope they all have solid races. Personally, I like the Rappstar style of racing (ST approved fast to T2), but he's also proven himself over the 101 distance...this should be good. Also keep in mind that Rappstar raced a very studly ITU race in Kelowna last weekend and was looking pretty darn sharp, chasing the lead pack solo and giving no time away to the lead pack and still running 35 minutes after that hard effort.

Dev

i have mixed feelings on this one. can anyone tell me with a straight face that there are people who DID the work, but are naturally shitty enough swimmers that they can't finish inside 2:20? Should I feel bad for someone who took a spot and didn't bother to do the work, hoping they could "grit it out" on race day?

That is a new brand of stupid, if that's what they think...

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Is anyone else having a problem playing the LIVE feed?

Ian, your buddy Wolfgang is a "darkhorse" in that he is unknown to the triathlon media. But if people follow some of the 70.3 results, they will know that he has been on fire this season. He just won Steelhead a few weeks back and I believe was second at the Newfoundland 70.3

IM LOU update...
THE Sergio is in 8th off the bike!!!!!!!



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Hang on...there are a ton of people like this...who just plan to fake it through the swim with a wetsuit. I'm helping a few folks for Ironman LP next year, and I had to give them a pep talk NOW about getting serious about swimming. While none of these guys are in fear of the cutoff, what they don't realize that if they do not take the swim seriously, they can easily add 10 min to the bike and 60 min to the run due to accumulated fatigue/dehydration from the swim course.

Yes, have to agree that at the end of the day your best time will likely come from staying with your own race plan/effort level.

I guess my thought was more to the effect that if you can see your plan will not result in the win (which I believe is Gordo's goal) based on how the race is unfolding on the bike, is it worth taking the risk to go above your desired effort level on the bike and hope for the possiblity your runs legs will still be there and you "might" have a better overall time (realize its unlikely that would be the case).

Yes, I can't get the live video. It freezes up my Firefox. I'm on a mac...

They said they were taking a 15 min break to move the camera.

Yep, I've lost the feed too.

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Don't they have more than one camera? And does moving it screw up my internet?

Hmmmm, Sergio is in 8th at IM Lou and he is not even there!?!?!? ( http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread ) I'm confused.
You are THE man Sergio : )

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"You must have missed how Doe was riding in Roth for instance...I doubt very much anyone is going to end up in the same zip code at the end of the ride."

apparently you're right. but i won't concede anything yet. jordan is not IM trained, and he knows it, so his intent was to plod along for 70mi and then make an affirmative move if things were going well. sort of a bjorn bike ride, except tactically backwards: get your time at the end instead of in the first half.

still, if he's riding scared that timidity is often what leads to rookie success in an IM.

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