Her Wiki says she passed yesterday. Surprised nothing mentioned anywhere on this. She had some rough times & I never like to see someone so young pass--horrible.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Rocky M]
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i don't know if this is accurate. WIKI no longer says this.
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ajthomas]
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Yeah I looked and didn't see it, but noticed on the right under personal information it says Died17 August 2020
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ajthomas]
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Shows up as died 17 Aug 2020 on my UK link to Wiki, as of 7.45pm UK time (GMT+1) Tuesday 18th Aug.
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ajthomas]
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Rocky M]
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A number of posts on Facebook about her.
Sad and too young at 51.
I know she had the drug bust for doping (EPO) after her win at the 2004 IRONMAN World Championships. Not condoning what she did in ANY way, but she did confess to it right away - none of this deny, deny and deny, and even more with some weird, crazy and strange story that we are supposed to believe (It was the toothpaste, steak, supplement, the sex with my boyfriend . . . ) - that probably 90% of dopers do. All I'm saying here, is it's rare and refreshing when a doper, just admits to their wrong doing.
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Sad and too young at 51.
I know she had the drug bust for doping (EPO) after her win at the 2004 IRONMAN World Championships. Not condoning what she did in ANY way, but she did confess to it right away - none of this deny, deny and deny, and even more with some weird, crazy and strange story that we are supposed to believe (It was the toothpaste, steak, supplement, the sex with my boyfriend . . . ) - that probably 90% of dopers do. All I'm saying here, is it's rare and refreshing when a doper, just admits to their wrong doing.
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Rocky M]
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Rocky M wrote:
It is accurate. Talked to a friend that lives by her. I just looked it up before this post. So in the last 1+ hrs someone changed it.Very sad to see regardless of your views on her doping. Life is short, life is precious. May be too soon and be deemed as insensitive, but any knowledge of what happened here. I am always curious of both the mental health of athletes like this who competes at a very high level and then went back to being a more ordinary person but also the health consequences of doping.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Thomas Gerlach]
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No idea what happened for sure. This is ST, I thought someone would have had this info a week before it happens...yeah, sad. I don't know. Another friend of mine who also lives there is really close to her, has dinner, rides, etc. I haven't been able to reach him to express my sympathies. According to him, she was a very nice person & just made a bad choice(s). I never met her before to the best of my knowledge, no insight at this point to exactly led to this.
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Rocky M]
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Well this is sad. I had the pleasure of meeting her a few times at various events after her suspension. She was always very kind and patient with an age grouper excited to meet her! I hope there are some details about what happened to her. A loss for the community for sure.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Rocky M]
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That is sad news indeed. I only met her a couple times, she seemed very nice and affable. As I recall, the whole doping thing may have been a coach/boyfriend pushing her that direction? It seemed she was not very sophisticated, as the drugs that were in her system at testing time are the ones that folks come off of well before any event.
At any rate, condolences to close family and friends. And like Thomas, I will be interested in the details of her passing...
At any rate, condolences to close family and friends. And like Thomas, I will be interested in the details of her passing...
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [monty]
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Sadly, self inflicted.....
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [monty]
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I met her several times in St. Croix in her "post doping" days. She owned her sin of the past and had moved on to "mere mortal status" in the 201x years and seemed to just being enjoying the sport and being out there with athletes. By then most did not even know who she was anyway, so just a fast athletes in the back of the pro pack mixed in with some fast age group men. She really seemed to enjoy those races for the sake of racing, not trying to win Kona or anything like that.
I hope this was not death by suicide. I think part of the reason many of us take on these crazy sports is that we have some part of our wiring that is different from normal people (for better or worse). RIP Nina...it was fun meeting you in St. Croix....swim, bike and run where you are until we join you for that when our turn comes.
I hope this was not death by suicide. I think part of the reason many of us take on these crazy sports is that we have some part of our wiring that is different from normal people (for better or worse). RIP Nina...it was fun meeting you in St. Croix....swim, bike and run where you are until we join you for that when our turn comes.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [devashish_paul]
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devashish_paul wrote:
I met her several times in St. Croix in her "post doping" days. She owned her sin of the past and had moved on to "mere mortal status" in the 201x years and seemed to just being enjoying the sport and being out there with athletes. By then most did not even know who she was anyway, so just a fast athletes in the back of the pro pack mixed in with some fast age group men. She really seemed to enjoy those races for the sake of racing, not trying to win Kona or anything like that. I hope this was not death by suicide. I think part of the reason many of us take on these crazy sports is that we have some part of our wiring that is different from normal people (for better or worse). RIP Nina...it was fun meeting you in St. Croix....swim, bike and run where you are until we join you for that when our turn comes.
Unfortunately I believe it was. Again, I don't want to seem insensitive but I have known quite a few athletes at a high-level and there is something different about the way they/we are wired. Obviously won't go into personal detail, but yes, I worry about a few of them, and especially now in this pandemic where some seem to suffer extra. I want to encourage anyone that is reading this in need to please reach out for help if you need it. You can always feel comfortable messaging me too. RIP Nina. I know she did a race down here at least couple of years ago. Always great to see former professional athletes still out there competing.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Thomas Gerlach]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
I have known quite a few athletes at a high-level and there is something different about the way they/we are wired.https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/...er-retir_a_22035114/
https://www.bbc.com/sport/42871491
I've been meaning to watch the HBO documentary The Weight Of Gold, too
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Thomas Gerlach]
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Unfortunately I believe it was. Again, I don't want to seem insensitive but I have known quite a few athletes at a high-level and there is something different about the way they/we are wired. Obviously won't go into personal detail, but yes, I worry about a few of them, and especially now in this pandemic where some seem to suffer extra. I want to encourage anyone that is reading this in need to please reach out for help if you need it. You can always feel comfortable messaging me too. RIP Nina. I know she did a race down here at least couple of years ago. Always great to see former professional athletes still out there competing.It is very sad to read about Nina and I feel for her in so many ways.
In the 27 years that I have been involved in the Ultra-triathlon community I have lost track of the number of athletes who have or are suffering from mental health issues,myself included.The pain and suffering of extreme training is easier to tolerate than the pain of what goes on between the ears and it gives a person a sense of purpose in life when a lack of purpose can be what drives people into a fatal downward spiral.I have seen it to a lesser extent in the Ironman community as well.
I have been very public about my own struggles and through my experiences I have been able to help people who have suffered deal with it all a little better and also have helped the families of those left behind understand, to a very small extent,the altered mindset that leads a person to make that final decision. I am 56 years old and if I make it to 60 I will be very surprised. It is my normal. It is just a matter of time and I am at peace with it.
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ThailandUltras]
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Stay strong Nick
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [Herbert]
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Herbert wrote:
Stay strong Nick.
Thanks mate,I have a few more things I want to see and do before I am done... I remember talking to Nina's brother Florian at Ultraman Canada 2008 about Nina and her drug bust.It seemed like such a difficult and sad time for all of those close to her.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ThailandUltras]
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Here is a painfully open and somewhat prophetic article written about Nina's dramatic and brutal fall from grace.I don't think she ever recovered from it. RIP Nina..
http://www.trihistory.com/features/after-fall#/0
http://www.trihistory.com/features/after-fall#/0
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ThailandUltras]
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I am 56 years old and if I make it to 60 I will be very surprised. It is my normal. It is just a matter of time and I am at peace with it.This is an obvious cry for help. Go get help.
I've posted this before but here goes: jumping from the golden gate bridge is statistically more fatal than a self inflicted gunshot. And yet a few people survive. The people who survive have extremely valuable data: those final 3 seconds where they are certain they've killed themselves. When asked about their experience the survivors all have one thing in common: they realized in those 3 seconds that the problems that seemed so insurmountable were actually nothing and they truly regretted their decision to jump. Suicide offers no peace. Nina most assuredly regretted what she did and her final few moments were the worst in her life. To say otherwise romanticizes what she did and is plainly untrue.
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ajthomas]
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ajthomas wrote:
ThailandUltras wrote:
I am 56 years old and if I make it to 60 I will be very surprised. It is my normal. It is just a matter of time and I am at peace with it.This is an obvious cry for help. Go get help.
I've posted this before but here goes: jumping from the golden gate bridge is statistically more fatal than a self inflicted gunshot. And yet a few people survive. The people who survive have extremely valuable data: those final 3 seconds where they are certain they've killed themselves. When asked about their experience the survivors all have one thing in common: they realized in those 3 seconds that the problems that seemed so insurmountable were actually nothing and they truly regretted their decision to jump. Suicide offers no peace. Nina most assuredly regretted what she did and her final few moments were the worst in her life. To say otherwise romanticizes what she did and is plainly untrue.
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I am well aware of Kevin Hines and his story and he describes it perfectly .It is an altered mind state and something that people who have not experienced it can't understand.If you had read all the blogs I have written you might have a different view as I have had this thing for 20 years.I have stopped asking for help because at the end of the day it becomes white noise.
The last thing I am going to do is argue with some random dude on a forum about my life.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ThailandUltras]
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ThailandUltras wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Unfortunately I believe it was. Again, I don't want to seem insensitive but I have known quite a few athletes at a high-level and there is something different about the way they/we are wired. Obviously won't go into personal detail, but yes, I worry about a few of them, and especially now in this pandemic where some seem to suffer extra. I want to encourage anyone that is reading this in need to please reach out for help if you need it. You can always feel comfortable messaging me too. RIP Nina. I know she did a race down here at least couple of years ago. Always great to see former professional athletes still out there competing.
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It is very sad to read about Nina and I feel for her in so many ways.
In the 27 years that I have been involved in the Ultra-triathlon community I have lost track of the number of athletes who have or are suffering from mental health issues,myself included.The pain and suffering of extreme training is easier to tolerate than the pain of what goes on between the ears and it gives a person a sense of purpose in life when a lack of purpose can be what drives people into a fatal downward spiral.I have seen it to a lesser extent in the Ironman community as well.
I have been very public about my own struggles and through my experiences I have been able to help people who have suffered deal with it all a little better and also have helped the families of those left behind understand, to a very small extent,the altered mindset that leads a person to make that final decision. I am 56 years old and if I make it to 60 I will be very surprised. It is my normal. It is just a matter of time and I am at peace with it.
It makes me incredibly sad to read this. Wishing you the best moving forward. If you ever get in a difficult spot please don't hesitate to reach out.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ThailandUltras]
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I wish I knew something useful to say. Just know I am sincere when I say I wish you the best and I deeply hope you can find enough beauty to want to hang around.
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Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [RowToTri]
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I wish I knew something useful to say. Just know I am sincere when I say I wish you the best and I deeply hope you can find enough beauty to want to hang around.It is good to talk about these things openly but let us shift our thoughts back to Nina and her family at this time.. Thank you for your thoughts..Cheers.
Re: Nina Kraft dead at 51 [ThailandUltras]
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Nick,
Reach out mate!
I agree with your point about the top level, and I mean the very top-level athletes - they did NOT reach that Olympic Gold Medal, or IRONMAN Word Championship win, or World Record by being, "normal".
And then there is the step-away from sport - that is often REALLY hard for these people.
There is a tendency for the media and others to normalize whatever these top level athletes have done, and that is wrong.
It's worth noting now that most National Olympic Organizations will have Transitional Services available to athletes as they step away from sport. Ditto for the major Pro Sports Leagues - to help athletes make that transition from Top-Level Athlete, to being a contributing member of society.
Us normal folk, think because of the massive success that all these athletes have had . . . they can handle anything . . . but often they can't!
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Reach out mate!
I agree with your point about the top level, and I mean the very top-level athletes - they did NOT reach that Olympic Gold Medal, or IRONMAN Word Championship win, or World Record by being, "normal".
And then there is the step-away from sport - that is often REALLY hard for these people.
There is a tendency for the media and others to normalize whatever these top level athletes have done, and that is wrong.
It's worth noting now that most National Olympic Organizations will have Transitional Services available to athletes as they step away from sport. Ditto for the major Pro Sports Leagues - to help athletes make that transition from Top-Level Athlete, to being a contributing member of society.
Us normal folk, think because of the massive success that all these athletes have had . . . they can handle anything . . . but often they can't!
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
ThailandUltras wrote:
ajthomas wrote:
ThailandUltras wrote:
I am 56 years old and if I make it to 60 I will be very surprised. It is my normal. It is just a matter of time and I am at peace with it.This is an obvious cry for help. Go get help.
I've posted this before but here goes: jumping from the golden gate bridge is statistically more fatal than a self inflicted gunshot. And yet a few people survive. The people who survive have extremely valuable data: those final 3 seconds where they are certain they've killed themselves. When asked about their experience the survivors all have one thing in common: they realized in those 3 seconds that the problems that seemed so insurmountable were actually nothing and they truly regretted their decision to jump. Suicide offers no peace. Nina most assuredly regretted what she did and her final few moments were the worst in her life. To say otherwise romanticizes what she did and is plainly untrue.
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I am well aware of Kevin Hines and his story and he describes it perfectly .It is an altered mind state and something that people who have not experienced it can't understand.If you had read all the blogs I have written you might have a different view as I have had this thing for 20 years.I have stopped asking for help because at the end of the day it becomes white noise.
The last thing I am going to do is argue with some random dude on a forum about my life.
Who is arguing? Good luck.