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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Irezumi wrote:
Outside has a long piece on this tragic case here:
https://www.outsideonline.com/...urder-gravel-racing/

The writer seems a little too close to some of the figures to provide a balanced account, so some aspects might strike you as problematic.

I started to read it, but something came up before I got too far - I said to myself 'I'll try again later'

However, before I could return, a writer friend of mine called it "misogynistic murder porn" and "It’s a PR piece to help out a buddy of the magazine"

Someone else posted, "usually not one to root against print media but @outsidemagazine deserves every bit of their impending bankruptcy for running this story"

Yet another person said, "It's not easy to turn the story of a woman murdering another woman into a story about a man, but it should have been easy to scrap it before publication."

A bunch of Zero-Star reviews, I'd say; so I'm not sure if I want to give Outside those clicks back

I agree with all of these impressions. I'm surprised anyone at Outside reviewed the piece and thought to themselves This Looks Great, Let's Publish It.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [NordicSkier] [ In reply to ]
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Sure he was a friend of Strickland.


I'm not outraged, but the author is eye-rollingly biased towards Strickland.


You forgot to quote the next sentence: "Strickland still comes off as an emotionally stunted douchebag who treated Armstrong terribly."

Strickland sucks, but he didn't pull the trigger.
Although, I wonder if he could sued for purchasing the gun and creating the circumstances for her death.

Didn't he? It almost seems like Armstrong's lawyers might be leaning towards saying he did. Did anyone see who was driving his motorcycle or her car around the times of the murder? I am just imagining what they may say..
BTW, who the f doesn't ditch a gun that was just used in a murder?!!!! Good grief!
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [M~] [ In reply to ]
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Didn't he? It almost seems like Armstrong's lawyers might be leaning towards saying he did. Did anyone see who was driving his motorcycle or her car around the times of the murder? I am just imagining what they may say..
BTW, who the f doesn't ditch a gun that was just used in a murder?!!!! Good grief!

They know fairly precisely the time of the murder and there is time stamped video evidence of him riding his motorbike 8 miles away.
He didn't pull the trigger.
By all accounts he wanted to have sex with Mo, not kill her.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [NordicSkier] [ In reply to ]
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I think i have watched too many detective series on Youtube. They have evidence his motorcycle was somewhere else. Do they know for certain it is him riding it?
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Irezumi] [ In reply to ]
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Irezumi wrote:
I'm surprised anyone at Outside reviewed the piece and thought to themselves This Looks Great, Let's Publish It.

It's clear that they're in "Nothing left to lose" mode

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"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [M~] [ In reply to ]
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It almost seems like Armstrong's lawyers might be leaning towards saying he did.


As usual Armstrong's Defense lawyers are keeping their cards close to the chest. But I did see it written somewhere they have said, "wait until the trial" - hinting that, apparently we, the police etc . . have this all wrong! Or is this just the usual criminal political posturing and flexing?


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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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It almost seems like Armstrong's lawyers might be leaning towards saying he did.


As usual Armstrong's Defense lawyers are keeping their cards close to the chest. But I did see it written somewhere they have said, "wait until the trial" - hinting that, apparently we, the police etc . . have this all wrong! Or is this just the usual criminal political posturing and flexing?

Pretty common for the defense in a high profile case to be bluster and bombast until they get sworn in and have to tell the truth under penalty of perjury.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [mathematics] [ In reply to ]
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mathematics wrote:
Fleck wrote:
It almost seems like Armstrong's lawyers might be leaning towards saying he did.


As usual Armstrong's Defense lawyers are keeping their cards close to the chest. But I did see it written somewhere they have said, "wait until the trial" - hinting that, apparently we, the police etc . . have this all wrong! Or is this just the usual criminal political posturing and flexing?


Pretty common for the defense in a high profile case to be bluster and bombast until they get sworn in and have to tell the truth under penalty of perjury.

Though "keeping cards close to chest" is something close to the opposite of bluster and bombast.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Very true. It's ironic because it all needs to be shared in discovery anyway.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [M~] [ In reply to ]
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M~ wrote:
I think i have watched too many detective series on Youtube. They have evidence his motorcycle was somewhere else. Do they know for certain it is him riding it?

Yes
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [M~] [ In reply to ]
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They mention it in the Dateline episode, IIRC they have video of him on the bike in another location.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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From Wade Wallace's Twitter-

https://twitter.com/.../1618057346412072966

"I'd like to reiterate that I'm no longer part of CT and this deplorable piece would not have been published under my watch. I'm so sorry that Mo Wilson's family & friends have to endure this unacceptable piece. I'm ashamed my past is connected with this publication."

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Irezumi] [ In reply to ]
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Irezumi wrote:
Outside has a long piece on this tragic case here:
https://www.outsideonline.com/...urder-gravel-racing/

The writer seems a little too close to some of the figures to provide a balanced account, so some aspects might strike you as problematic.

I had to see how bad it was. I was not disappointed... a fluffy propaganda piece.

It makes a good case for having much higher bars for handgun ownership. The "logic" that people use is truly idiotic.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [logella] [ In reply to ]
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It looks like Armstrong's trial is set to begin Oct 30, despite her recent attempt to escape custody.

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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [refthimos] [ In reply to ]
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refthimos wrote:
It looks like Armstrong's trial is set to begin Oct 30, despite her
recent attempt to escape custody.



She again tried to go fugitive?


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after about 10 minutes, officers caught up to her and restrained her

That's a solid run, though. Got past the initial sprint phase into full VO2 max interval effort. It sounds like it might have been well over a mile?

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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
refthimos wrote:
It looks like Armstrong's trial is set to begin Oct 30, despite her
recent attempt to escape custody.



She again tried to go fugitive?


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after about 10 minutes, officers caught up to her and restrained her


That's a solid run, though. Got past the initial sprint phase into full VO2 max interval effort. It sounds like it might have been well over a mile?

She was just trying to escape so she could find the real killer!

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
refthimos wrote:
It looks like Armstrong's trial is set to begin Oct 30, despite her
recent attempt to escape custody.



She again tried to go fugitive?


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after about 10 minutes, officers caught up to her and restrained her


That's a solid run, though. Got past the initial sprint phase into full VO2 max interval effort. It sounds like it might have been well over a mile?

Really surprised she didn't lose the correction officers if it went on for that long.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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Did they stop her Garmin when they cuffed her?

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Did they stop her Garmin when they cuffed her?

Strava or it didn't happen
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [mdana87] [ In reply to ]
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No Strava but there is video. She has better form than her chaser...

Edited to fix link.
Last edited by: Trirunner: Oct 12, 23 20:49
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Trirunner] [ In reply to ]
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Trirunner wrote:
No Strava but there is video. She has better form than her chaser...


Your link is broken.

This is the correct link.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
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TulkasTri wrote:
Trirunner wrote:
No Strava but there is video. She has better form than her chaser...


Your link is broken.

This is the correct link.

She thought she had a better chance running off-road.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Jimbotri] [ In reply to ]
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I'm a mechanical engineer. In instances like this, and other times trying to understand unhinged humans like this woman, I kinda wish I would've put more effort towards psych classes or even a psych major. I just can't put any of the puzzles pieces together to even try to understand the thought process. It's just scary there are people like this roaming around out there.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [mdana87] [ In reply to ]
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mdana87 wrote:
I'm a mechanical engineer. In instances like this, and other times trying to understand unhinged humans like this woman, I kinda wish I would've put more effort towards psych classes or even a psych major. I just can't put any of the puzzles pieces together to even try to understand the thought process. It's just scary there are people like this roaming around out there.

Looking at her actions after she murdered Mo it's basically self preservation. She knew she was going to jail for 20 to life, fleeing the country and getting plastic surgery isn't the worst idea. It's wrong, morally reprehensible, and illegal, but from a self preservation instinct it makes sense. Likewise, she's now looking at guaranteed life in jail after fleeing and had a low security opportunity to escape. The chances of getting away are 1 in 1,000,000 but thats better than the chances of not trying, which i life in prison either way.

I'm not saying anything she did was right or good or anything like that, just that it's not inexplicable.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [mathematics] [ In reply to ]
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Looking at her actions after she murdered Mo it's basically self preservation. She knew she was going to jail for 20 to life, fleeing the country and getting plastic surgery isn't the worst idea. It's wrong, morally reprehensible, and illegal, but from a self preservation instinct it makes sense. Likewise, she's now looking at guaranteed life in jail after fleeing and had a low security opportunity to escape. The chances of getting away are 1 in 1,000,000 but thats better than the chances of not trying, which i life in prison either way.

I'm not saying anything she did was right or good or anything like that, just that it's not inexplicable.

Agreed. And to me the fleeing, both before getting caught & most recently, are the most understandable thought processes. To your point: they're self-preservation or very close to basic human instinct - survival. Being a little more clear in my comment, I'm curious about the life experiences that got her (or those like her) to the point of legitimizing (in her head) murder.
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