TJ56 wrote:
The last interview in the episode is Kristen's lawyer. "Holy Cow". You'd want this guy if you were being accused of murder. What a story he has......i wasn't impressed with the lawyer. too slick.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [TJ56]
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i wasn't impressed with the lawyer. too slick.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Bob Loblaw]
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I don’t have cable and don’t do the stick thing to get cable online so I can’t normally get any of these shows etc.
I listened to the audio podcast of this episode. Her lawyer is just like every defense attorney who’s speaking before a trial, they always have a thousand answers to getting their client off, blah blah blah.
If it was an random “burglary” why would the bike be left 30m from the house. Like she is guilty AF. But in today’s justice system I would only give this probably 60% chance of guilty verdict.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
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I listened to the audio podcast of this episode. Her lawyer is just like every defense attorney who’s speaking before a trial, they always have a thousand answers to getting their client off, blah blah blah.
If it was an random “burglary” why would the bike be left 30m from the house. Like she is guilty AF. But in today’s justice system I would only give this probably 60% chance of guilty verdict.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Bob Loblaw]
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
TJ56 wrote:
The last interview in the episode is Kristen's lawyer. "Holy Cow". You'd want this guy if you were being accused of murder. What a story he has......i wasn't impressed with the lawyer. too slick.
I was impressed with the version of "her" story he was concocted. It will have to be "teflon" slick to keep her from getting the needle or whatever they use in Texas. IMO she is guilty as sin!
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [TJ56]
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TJ56 wrote:
Bob Loblaw wrote:
TJ56 wrote:
The last interview in the episode is Kristen's lawyer. "Holy Cow". You'd want this guy if you were being accused of murder. What a story he has......i wasn't impressed with the lawyer. too slick.
I was impressed with the version of "her" story he was concocted. It will have to be "teflon" slick to keep her from getting the needle or whatever they use in Texas. IMO she is guilty as sin!
Her case doesn't fit the death penalty rules so she will not be executed if found guilty.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Morelock]
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NordicSkier wrote:
She should have just waited until Mo was cycling, then run her over in her vehicle, which would have been a modest fine.Sadly this is true.
If she had a big-ass truck, certainly
But she only had a Jeep
what if she had been drinking?
then she'd also need to be a police officer to get away with it.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [TJ56]
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TJ56 wrote:
I've been catching up on all our favorite shows on the DVR since almost finishing Chattanooga last week and I came across the season opener of Dateline that we had DVR'd; "The Last Ride". That was probably the best Dateline I have watched since I knew the entire story from following this thread. I thought they did a really good job covering the story and it was really interesting to hear other details about the crime that were not discussed here. I came back to this thread thinking there would be some discussion about it but I didn't find anything. Hard to believe others haven't watched this, and if not, I highly recommend watching the episode if you followed this thread. The last interview in the episode is Kristen's lawyer. "Holy Cow". You'd want this guy if you were being accused of murder. What a story he has......Finally got around to watching it. Her lawyer seems pretty confident he has a bazinga that'll either let her walk or at least provide enough reasonable doubt.
Can we talk about the part where he says "show me the proof she had plastic surgery." Uh, you only have to look at her nose...it's different.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [ShawnF]
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Some new info on the entire thing, mostly about Strickland. Seems like he was publicly pretending to be single the entire time.
Also, apparently there was a $6,300 receipt for surgery.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/14/a-murder-roils-the-cycling-world?utm_medium=email&utm_source=pocket_hits&utm_campaign=POCKET_HITS-EN-DAILY-SPONSORED&SIMPLISAFE-2022_11_09&sponsored=0&position=6&scheduled_corpus_item_id=85f2e841-edb9-41ba-96ce-96858541630c
Also, apparently there was a $6,300 receipt for surgery.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/14/a-murder-roils-the-cycling-world?utm_medium=email&utm_source=pocket_hits&utm_campaign=POCKET_HITS-EN-DAILY-SPONSORED&SIMPLISAFE-2022_11_09&sponsored=0&position=6&scheduled_corpus_item_id=85f2e841-edb9-41ba-96ce-96858541630c
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Geronimo]
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Geronimo wrote:
Some new info on the entire thing, mostly about Strickland. Seems like he was publicly pretending to be single the entire time. Also, apparently there was a $6,300 receipt for surgery.
https://www.newyorker.com/...ba-96ce-96858541630c
Fixed
Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [ShawnF]
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According to Velonews her lawyer tried to suppress her interview with the Austin police because they didn't follow proper procedure and failed to read her Miranda rights. That was probably his bazinga argument. Fortunately, the judge denied the motion and delayed the trial until next year.
https://www.velonews.com/...d-until-next-summer/
https://www.velonews.com/...d-until-next-summer/
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Geronimo]
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"the biggest star that gravel racing has yet produced" (referring to Strickland)
Hmm.
I don't mean to detract from the serious issue with a pedantic point, but while Strickland was on most people's top-5 list of best American male gravel racers, I didn't feel he was hands down "the biggest star of gravel racing." He was like a peer of Swenson, Ten Dam, Stetina, etc. Like those three, his stardom mostly originated elsewhere, Strickland in the defunct Red Hook fixie crit series, Swenson in mountain biking, Ten Dam and Stetina as World Tour pros.
Hmm.
I don't mean to detract from the serious issue with a pedantic point, but while Strickland was on most people's top-5 list of best American male gravel racers, I didn't feel he was hands down "the biggest star of gravel racing." He was like a peer of Swenson, Ten Dam, Stetina, etc. Like those three, his stardom mostly originated elsewhere, Strickland in the defunct Red Hook fixie crit series, Swenson in mountain biking, Ten Dam and Stetina as World Tour pros.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [timbro]
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thanks for the updates, been following this case. had to look up what a bazinga argument was, didn't go to law school :(
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [TJ56]
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I think you probably need a spin like that to keep the family paying your billable rate!
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [timbro]
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Outside has a long piece on this tragic case here:
https://www.outsideonline.com/...urder-gravel-racing/
The writer seems a little too close to some of the figures to provide a balanced account, so some aspects might strike you as problematic.
https://www.outsideonline.com/...urder-gravel-racing/
The writer seems a little too close to some of the figures to provide a balanced account, so some aspects might strike you as problematic.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Irezumi]
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Kind of a weird conclusion by Dille. Sidesteps the whole murder thing, and says the main takeaway is "folks, don't buy guns for your loved ones."
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [avatar78]
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Kind of a weird conclusion by Dille. Sidesteps the whole murder thing, and says the main takeaway is "folks, don't buy guns for your loved ones."
Agreed - it was a strange article. Dille says that he's a close friend of Strickland's - but he seems to wander all over the place and then, makes come to that conclusion about guns.
I've heard elsewhere, that apparently the Defense has info that we've not seen or know about, regarding Armstrong that will tell a different story! However, this all seems to be pretty straightforward, with all kinds of evidence to back up the fact that the jealous girlfriend killed in cold blood the other women.
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Agreed - it was a strange article. Dille says that he's a close friend of Strickland's - but he seems to wander all over the place and then, makes come to that conclusion about guns.
I've heard elsewhere, that apparently the Defense has info that we've not seen or know about, regarding Armstrong that will tell a different story! However, this all seems to be pretty straightforward, with all kinds of evidence to back up the fact that the jealous girlfriend killed in cold blood the other women.
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Fleck]
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Kind of a weird conclusion by Dille. Sidesteps the whole murder thing, and says the main takeaway is "folks, don't buy guns for your loved ones." Agreed - it was a strange article. Dille says that he's a close friend of Strickland's - but he seems to wander all over the place and then, makes come to that conclusion about guns.
I've heard elsewhere, that apparently the Defense has info that we've not seen or know about, regarding Armstrong that will tell a different story! However, this all seems to be pretty straightforward, with all kinds of evidence to back up the fact that the jealous girlfriend killed in cold blood the other women.
Watching the outrage over this article on social media. I don't get it.
Sure he was a friend of Strickland.
Strickland still comes off as an emotionally stunted douchebag who treated Armstrong terribly.
Armstrong still looks guilty AF, but maybe a bit more sympathetic given her treatment by Strickland.
And yeah, no gun, likely no dead Mo. I think that's a valid conclusion that a lot of 2A supporters are probably pissed about.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [Irezumi]
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Irezumi wrote:
Outside has a long piece on this tragic case here: https://www.outsideonline.com/...urder-gravel-racing/
The writer seems a little too close to some of the figures to provide a balanced account, so some aspects might strike you as problematic.
I started to read it, but something came up before I got too far - I said to myself 'I'll try again later'
However, before I could return, a writer friend of mine called it "misogynistic murder porn" and "It’s a PR piece to help out a buddy of the magazine"
Someone else posted, "usually not one to root against print media but @outsidemagazine deserves every bit of their impending bankruptcy for running this story"
Yet another person said, "It's not easy to turn the story of a woman murdering another woman into a story about a man, but it should have been easy to scrap it before publication."
A bunch of Zero-Star reviews, I'd say; so I'm not sure if I want to give Outside those clicks back
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Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [NordicSkier]
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And yeah, no gun, likely no dead Mo. I think that's a valid conclusion that a lot of 2A supporters are probably pissed about.
With two Mass Shootings in California within 24 hrs I'm guessing the U.S. News Cycle is roiling with the never-ending discussions about this. Meanwhile the literal complete and total rest of the developed world on the planet (4 billion+ people) looks on, scratches the head and goes, "Why"?
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
With two Mass Shootings in California within 24 hrs I'm guessing the U.S. News Cycle is roiling with the never-ending discussions about this. Meanwhile the literal complete and total rest of the developed world on the planet (4 billion+ people) looks on, scratches the head and goes, "Why"?
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [RandMart]
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Someone else posted, "usually not one to root against print media but @outsidemagazine deserves every bit of their impending bankruptcy for running this story" Yet another person said, "It's not easy to turn the story of a woman murdering another woman into a story about a man, but it should have been easy to scrap it before publication."
A bunch of Zero-Star reviews, I'd say; so I'm not sure if I want to give Outside those clicks back
Very accurate reviews - stay away from it.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [NordicSkier]
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Sure he was a friend of Strickland.
I'm not outraged, but the author is eye-rollingly biased towards Strickland.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [RandMart]
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I mean it's worth reading in that it has more details on the whole thing that haven't been previously released. Like, after you allegedly murder someone, some alleged murderers go home, put the gun away, and have rough sex with their partner.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [avatar78]
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and have rough sex with their partner.Which reportedly traumatized poor Strickland, the victim in that encounter.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [trail]
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trail wrote:
NordicSkier wrote:
Sure he was a friend of Strickland.
I'm not outraged, but the author is eye-rollingly biased towards Strickland.
You forgot to quote the next sentence: "Strickland still comes off as an emotionally stunted douchebag who treated Armstrong terribly."
Strickland sucks, but he didn't pull the trigger.
Although, I wonder if he could sued for purchasing the gun and creating the circumstances for her death.
Re: Mo Wilson Killed in Austin [NordicSkier]
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I find it very interesting that no ads were placed in that article.
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You forgot to quote the next sentence: "Strickland still comes off as an emotionally stunted douchebag who treated Armstrong terribly."
No, I got that. Even with that, the article is biased towards Strickland. Like it seems to grant as fact that Strickland was "just friends" with Wilson around the time of the murder, "He knew that he and Wilson were just friends at that point..."
But if you read the text messages in the affidavit that sure didn't seem to be a fact in either Wilson's or Armstrong's minds.