That would severly limit the amount of 60+ age groupers that could race then. You sure you want to limit those age groups with this product?

Ok, I can tell that all of you talking about a 12 hour cutoff are men. A 12 hour cutoff on what wouldn't be a flat course, would mean that only a handful of women would be able to finish in time and probably no women 40 or 45 and older. No way that would ever happen. If anything, WTC would want to make sure there is a 17 hour cutoff, if nothing else for it would help them with PR stories that would appeal to all the 30- and 40-something active-ish women in the NYC area with money to spend in order to increase their appeal to that group (and the various races they can promote to them).

last year in imlp, there were 6 women and 51 men who were 60+. were you joking with your question or are you just completely unaware of how microscopic this demographic is in ironmen?

ok, 14 hours then. The shuts things down at 9pm.

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Where do the Kona slots come from? Reduce the amount from the NA races yet again?

You think those numbers are going to stay that way?

You want a Kona slot, do the Ironman China Duathon

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Time cutoffs:
9am swim
3pm bike
9pm run
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of course not but WTC sure doesn't care about losing 50 possible people from signing up when there are 100s (1000s?) in younger AGs who will be more than willing to drop over $1000 on the race.

Living in this area, mid-late June is a tough time to race an IM. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, but finding training time would be hard. As for IMLP...who's to say they can't do BOTH that weekend. IMLP sells out faster than any other race (I think). I'm sure that everyone who gets closed out of IMLP will gladly move their IM plans a few hours South.

Interfering with other races in the area won't be a concern for WTC. The same reason that two food stores can co-exist in the same town or two stores in the mall don't put each other out of business, WTC can operate their IM and Toughman can keep their race.

Labor Day weekend might be a good weekend to do it. All of the NYC Bennies will be at the "shore" anyway! (sorry, I'm a beach bum at heart).

fleck - correct me if i'm wrong here, but wasn't that a feature of the old president's choice series back in the day? i seem to remember getting my old PC brochure in the mail, and reading that a race like, say, muskoka would have "x kona slots and y ironman canada slots." am i imagining this, or was there a time when you qualified for penticton?

-mike

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fleck - correct me if i'm wrong here, but wasn't that a feature of the old president's choice series back in the day? i seem to remember getting my old PC brochure in the mail, and reading that a race like, say, muskoka would have "x kona slots and y ironman canada slots." am i imagining this, or was there a time when you qualified for penticton?

Mike,

You are right . . but that was only for a handful of slots for the race. There was talk of making half the field at IMC slots that you had to qualify for. Never got off the ground.

Those spots at the Trisports races at the Muskoka Triathlon and the Peterborough Half were available and hardly contested for up until a few years ago. I don't think they have them any more.

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Hey i'm not disputing that - i think the sell out would be closer to 5 mins than an hour - and yes i'd be hammering my keyboard to get in - i think it's a novel idea and one that would create huge interest in the sport....

There are still IMC qualifying spots at the Oliver and Desrt halfs if I'm not mistaken - that may be different now since its been a few years since I've done those races
As for IM NYC - do they have to have it within the "city" or could they be thinking of taking over an established race within the area? Say in the Hamptons or say even Montauk?

    
I think that would make for a pretty bad A$$ course. This what I predict based on everyone's posts, and I appologize for not getting the measurements spot on... Close enough for illustrative purposes though!

• Swim: Ross Dock has a boat ramp like Oceanside. Long Run on the pavement out of water back to Transition though http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/34146958/

• Bike: The climb up to the Palisades Interstate Parkway will need to be paved, especially if the bike course goes North and river road, and up to Ranger Station before entering the PIP. 2 loops Out and back up the PIP to Stony Pt, 28miles each way. approx 3,170 ft of climbing each loop. 6,340 ft over the 112M. http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/34143874/

• Run: South along river road up hill to Hudson Terrace, accross the GWB, through Wash-Heights over to the Greeway and down to the passed the Water Sanitation Plant to the old school Fairway. Out and Back, 2 loops, 6.5 miles each way. approx 646 ft of climbing each loop. 1,290 over 26.2 mile http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/34145116/

The one problem with your course is that it's supposed to be Ironman NYC. There needs to be more of the race in NYC for me.

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I doubt the swim in the Hudson so downstream (strong tides) would allow for an out and back. More point to point as NYC Tri.
The run would be awful and the ramp to GWB is a bottleneck

In my case any fee would be cheaper than a destination event and if T2 is close to Midtown the possibility of taking a nap in my own bed is priceless

Where do the NEW YORK jets and NEW YORK giants play?

You win that round.

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Round 2 - Statue of Liberty

"The one problem with your course is that it's supposed to be Ironman NYC. There needs to be more of the race in NYC for me."

Probably have only a small portion of the race in NYC...how much of the Boston Marathon course is actually in Boston? It's all in the name...having said that, it would be too close to home for me not to sign up!

I wrote this on another thread, but I liked it and thought it should be posted here.

I'm calling it "IMGS" as in Ironman Goldman Sachs.

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"...I'm calling it "IMGS" as in Ironman Goldman Sachs..."

LOL...Post of the day!!!

Even if the majority of the course does not take place in NYC it will still happen on the roads that we all use to train. Of all of us NYC STers how many of our miles of training actually take place on the roads of NYC? I know that majority of my miles (especally bike) take place on the other side of the Hudson. I would be pumped to have a local Ironman regardless if I take one step in NYC on race day; as long as I can sleep in my own bed and go home after.

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I choked on my burrito when I saw that they were bringing an Ironman to my neighborhood (West Harlem). I have spent the past five years training on the same course that will be used for this race and am quite shocked that Ironman decided to bring this race to Upper Manhattan. Good news: Bike Course will be great. Good News/Bad News: Swim will be easiest ever if current is cooperating. Will be most difficult ever if the current doesn't cooperate. Swimming in the Hudson is quite pleasant if the current is at your back. Bad News: The date for this race is terrible. The heat during the run is going to be brutal. The person who makes dates for Ironman must be replaced. Poconos should be in August. New York City should be in October. WTC will need to buy extra ambulances for these races. Run course is disappointing. The run for NYC Triathlon is along 72nd Street and Central Park and is great. Run for Ironman New York will include long stretches on skinny bike paths in the sections of Riverside Park that the city doesn't maintain. I am heading to Lake Placid or the new Ironman in Quebec. Bad Bad News: The entry fee for this race will be insane. I bet that it will be more than the entry fee for Rev 3 Quassy, NYC Triathlon, and Timberman combined. Will it be $800? $1000? Stay tuned.