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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Hi
Advice to see if I am a small or a medium?

Pad X - 478
Pad Y - 610


5'7"
30" in seam


Medium looks like it would provide a better set of sizing solutions for you. You could hit those numbers with a long stem and arm pad risers on a small, but you're basically smack dab in the middle of the sizing graph for the medium.

Thank you! Decisions... Love my premier tactical, but I want disc brakes.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [frebay] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you! Decisions... Love my premier tactical, but I want disc brakes.

Honestly, at the prices Diamondback are selling these for, you're pretty much getting the frameset for free. Take, for example the Andean 3 which they're blowing out at $6500. That includes...

Aeria Ultimate front end - 1112.99
Zipp 404 disc brake front wheel - $1000
Zipp 808 disc brake rear wheel - $1200
SRAM Force eTap group - $1650
SRAM Force Dub crank - $420

That's $5382.99 right there at current market prices. We're really close to - if not at - the price point where folks can just buy these to part out. Pretty nuts.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Not buying one but I'm hoping all these sales means we get to see some more of these at races! Definitely one of my favorite bikes to look at still but finding one, even in a big croud, is tough!

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for your help!! :)
I know what you mean about changing positions. The first year I went through many iterations to get where it is today and I'm comfortable riding it.
I might just get a large frame and play with it so that I have something as a baseline for modern frame sizes as I do have some spare parts.
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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [cloud] [ In reply to ]
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You're welcome. With prices like these, it's definitely worth just taking a flyer on something.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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HI Fredly, thanks for you response. Actually I was one of the first to roder the Andean. Right after they launched in 2016 and received mine about May 2017 after all the first delays.
There has been at that time a siginificant amount of back and forth emailing and even a video of how much force we needed to get the BB out. But it wouldn't bulge even a mm.

The same was for that show model frame I had last week. I ended up doing the same and just you used a adapter to accomodate the Shimano in the BB30 bracket.

Anyway, sorry to see that they are leaving triathlon. I will get in touch with them for that stem.

Thanks,

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I just signed up for the newsletter, but is that too late to get the code? If so, is there another way to get it? Very interested in the deal, but I need to see final numbers. Thanks.
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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [deh20] [ In reply to ]
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I just signed up for the newsletter, but is that too late to get the code? If so, is there another way to get it? Very interested in the deal, but I need to see final numbers. Thanks.

code is RIDE4SLOWTWITCH . you'll want to refer to what fredly is writing above as to how to get that code to activate.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [TRIPRO] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Jeroen,

I'm 99% sure that the SRAM frameset was a production sample. There were some slight changes made to the mold/process after those were produced to address some small issues.

Diamondback sold a few bikes before they brought me in to handle processes and communications, and given I never made a video like that this was clearly from that period. Quite frankly, from what you describe, I would have handled things differently and tried to get that frame back from you. When it does eventually come time to replace that BB, as I said earlier, the plastic shell of the BB should definitely deform before the frame does, and I'd recommend replacing it with a unit from another manufacturer as you did with the SRAM sample bike.

Please do drop me a line if you don't have any luck getting the stem. It should be much easier for you to just contact them directly than it would be for me to make a connection for you, but if it winds up being a pain in the butt, I will gladly make that connection for you.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Curious as to sizing.
My pad stack and reach are 605 and 485 mm respectively. Center pads.
Would like to stretch out a bit to 490 or 495 mm reach.
Medium or large I presume?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [rocketbrother] [ In reply to ]
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rocketbrother wrote:
Curious as to sizing.
My pad stack and reach are 605 and 485 mm respectively. Center pads.
Would like to stretch out a bit to 490 or 495 mm reach.
Medium or large I presume?
Thanks in advance.

490mm or 495mm can certainly be a L. what i don't know if if you can get an L down to 605mm. if you do, i assume that would be really slammed. might be easier to get there with a profile design subsonic bar. a M would be an easy fit. but fredly's the expert.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [rocketbrother] [ In reply to ]
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You're right in the overlap between medium and large, and could make either size work. You'd be totally slammed on a large, and bar selection would, as Slowman notes, be important. you'd likely need to change out the stem - or push the pads out pretty far on the bars - on a medium.

Your current sizing is pretty solidly medium, so I'd probably recommend that unless you're fairly positive about the new reach number, and with the understanding that you might need to change the stem out on the medium to hit the new reach numbers.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Fredly, know you are no longer there but what might we assume that DB will retain warranty frames for the next 2-3 years or so? Since they will not have a Tri bike like this moving forward I expect they would have a stock of warranty frames available, since they cannot replace with current model year frames like normal.

Thanks

Dennis
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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [Dalancas] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dennis,
These bikes/frames are being offered with the full manufacturer warranty, which you can read here. I honestly don't know what they are going to do in terms of stocking warranty replacement frames going forward, but based on my experience with the people running the company I believe they can be expected to make good on the terms of that warranty.
The new ownership of Diamondback also recently purchased Mavic, and reading between the lines, they have serious plans and ambitions to be a significant player in the high end bicycle space moving forward. Part of doing that is taking care of your customers.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Fredly, thanks. I will contact DB about the stem. If this don’t work out I will get back t you.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:
deh20 wrote:
I just signed up for the newsletter, but is that too late to get the code? If so, is there another way to get it? Very interested in the deal, but I need to see final numbers. Thanks.


code is RIDE4SLOWTWITCH . you'll want to refer to what fredly is writing above as to how to get that code to activate.

Awesome, thank you. Fredly, can you provide the link to the other DB site? I'm going to what I presume is the normal Diamondback site and the code doesn't work. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [deh20] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, not the normal site, you will need to go to the Corporate Partner site


Look for the spot for the code on the registration page, if you don't enter it there you will need to re-register!

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Dan.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, super helpful.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Hi. I went out and bought a cross-hair laser and have to revise my numbers a bit. Would you please see if a Medium would work with Pad stack (center pad) of 620 mm and reach (center) of 495 mm?
I currently have pursuit hands position a full 100 mm lower stack than arm pads and my hand position when in pursuit is exactly same height (stack) as roadbike drops. Not necessarily a key feature but I do want the base bar with 50-100 mm drop from pads.

Sorry it’s a bit complicated. I guess tri-fitting just is.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Do we know why they are so inexpensive? Are they going bankrupt?
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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [quinnserfa] [ In reply to ]
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Do we know why they are so inexpensive? Are they going bankrupt?

Diamondback was purchased by a new ownership group a couple/few months back (they also recently acquired Mavic and Raleigh, among other brands) and the new owners have decided that the expenditures necessary to support a triathlon product line don't make economic sense at this point in time.
Frankly, I think just about anyone in their position would have made the same decision. Dropping money into marketing and supporting a high-end triathlon bike project right at the moment that a global pandemic hits is a tough sell to your investors. It's especially tough when you literally can't produce enough product to keep up with demand at the sub-$1000 end of the road/Mtb product line, and need to dedicate resources towards sourcing those products to capitalize on a completely unforeseen market demand.
They're definitely not going bankrupt, in fact my understanding is that they're way, way up on projected/historic sales figures this season. They just need to concentrate on selling the product that people want to buy right now, and that isn't high end tri bikes.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [rocketbrother] [ In reply to ]
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Hi. I went out and bought a cross-hair laser and have to revise my numbers a bit. Would you please see if a Medium would work with Pad stack (center pad) of 620 mm and reach (center) of 495 mm?
I currently have pursuit hands position a full 100 mm lower stack than arm pads and my hand position when in pursuit is exactly same height (stack) as roadbike drops. Not necessarily a key feature but I do want the base bar with 50-100 mm drop from pads.

You're still in the overlap between sizes, but that revision puts you more into the size large range. With the stock stem length, would probably be an easier set of coordinates to hit with a size large, but it will ultimately come down to the aerobar setup. You're on the slammed side of a large, and on the long-reach side of a medium.

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Fredly can you tell me what praxis BB to get for shimano, Just want to make sure I order the correct BB

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Re: Diamondback Andean Questions (you'll see why this thread is topical) [surfNJmatt] [ In reply to ]
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No problem. You'll want to order this one.

Andean has a PF30 style bottom bracket.

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