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Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed?
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https://sur.co/altred/

Anyone know if studies are legit or if Betalain is legit? Seems they make some pretty huge claims, and I know many here have some great science background.....

Thanks in advance....
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Save your money.
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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just as effective as halo sports headphones.
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Basically just Beet Root. You can buy 2.2 lbs of Beet Root for < $20. I would say 1500 mg of Beet Root for $50 is pretty pricey.

Further to that you could likely buy 22 pounds of beets for 20$ or grow them for free if you have some dirt and water.

I’ve actually wondered if there are studies out there on say one beet in a smoothie vs xyz mg of powder.

Maurice

http://www.multisportsolutions.com
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [mauricemaher] [ In reply to ]
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mauricemaher wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Basically just Beet Root. You can buy 2.2 lbs of Beet Root for < $20. I would say 1500 mg of Beet Root for $50 is pretty pricey.


Further to that you could likely buy 22 pounds of beets for 20$ or grow them for free if you have some dirt and water.

I’ve actually wondered if there are studies out there on say one beet in a smoothie vs xyz mg of powder.

Maurice

Me too on that front. I usually buy the beets at the Costco/BJ that are pre-steemed and ready to blend. Usually you get 12-15 beets or so for ~$7. Beet prep otherwise is too time intensive. I worked with a beet powder company a few years back. I think it was 3 beets to make a tablespoon or something like that. Take the water out and you aren't left with much.


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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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I listened in on the pitch at a race expo last weekend. I went online and read the studies too. The research supports the claims, but sample size is small.

I assume they funded the research, but didn’t confirm it.

I drink tart cherry and beet juice for the same anti inflammatory claims Altred makes. I would say both of these juices come at a hefty price tag and with a fair amount of calories per serving. The juices have some research behind them. It has been a while since I read those papers, but I imagine the sample sizes were significantly larger than the Alteed studies.

If I knew with some degree of certainty that the properties of the tart cherry or beet juices could be retained without the calories then I would pay the promo price at $30 / bottle. Not sure I could get my chin up to the bar for $50 / bottle regular price.

If I find the juice white papers I will update my post with a link(s).

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Rather than dig for a bunch of links here is a good summary on Tart Cherry Juice from TP with references at the bottom.
https://www.trainingpeaks.com/...-endurance-athletes/

I found a bunch of mixed results on beet juice, here is what appears to me to be a more complex study, which shows dosing is pretty key and individually variable:
http://www.physiology.org/...plphysiol.00372.2013

Given how variable this study shows beet juice is on results it is hard to buy in to the take 1 pill every two hours approach. It would also be a total waste of money if you were one of the poor responders that require a higher dosage. i would be far more inclined to try a tart cherry skin powder than a beet extract pill. I could have this all wrong as I am not a scientist by any stretch of the imagination.
Last edited by: SBRinSD: Feb 26, 18 17:51
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
mauricemaher wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Basically just Beet Root. You can buy 2.2 lbs of Beet Root for < $20. I would say 1500 mg of Beet Root for $50 is pretty pricey.


Further to that you could likely buy 22 pounds of beets for 20$ or grow them for free if you have some dirt and water.

I’ve actually wondered if there are studies out there on say one beet in a smoothie vs xyz mg of powder.

Maurice

Me too on that front. I usually buy the beets at the Costco/BJ that are pre-steemed and ready to blend. Usually you get 12-15 beets or so for ~$7. Beet prep otherwise is too time intensive. I worked with a beet powder company a few years back. I think it was 3 beets to make a tablespoon or something like that. Take the water out and you aren't left with much.

I just throw two raw beets, spinach, some yogurt and maybe frozen berries or OJ in the ninja.

Do you lose anything (nutrients) with raw beets?

Of course all taste is acquired, my wife calls it the dirt smoothie.

Maurice

http://www.multisportsolutions.com
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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I appreciate the feedback. I was under the impression the claims were a stretch, but try to stay informed. Thanks to all!
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [SBRinSD] [ In reply to ]
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SBRinSD wrote:
dosing is pretty key and individually variable

Speaking of individual differences:

http://physreports.physiology.org/content/6/2/e13575
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the confirmation!
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Andrew. Very interesting...
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [mauricemaher] [ In reply to ]
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mauricemaher wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
mauricemaher wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Basically just Beet Root. You can buy 2.2 lbs of Beet Root for < $20. I would say 1500 mg of Beet Root for $50 is pretty pricey.


Further to that you could likely buy 22 pounds of beets for 20$ or grow them for free if you have some dirt and water.

I’ve actually wondered if there are studies out there on say one beet in a smoothie vs xyz mg of powder.

Maurice


Me too on that front. I usually buy the beets at the Costco/BJ that are pre-steemed and ready to blend. Usually you get 12-15 beets or so for ~$7. Beet prep otherwise is too time intensive. I worked with a beet powder company a few years back. I think it was 3 beets to make a tablespoon or something like that. Take the water out and you aren't left with much.


I just throw two raw beets, spinach, some yogurt and maybe frozen berries or OJ in the ninja.

Do you lose anything (nutrients) with raw beets?

Of course all taste is acquired, my wife calls it the dirt smoothie.

Maurice

Raw beets would speed up the process and you probably get more nutrients not less as I am sure something is lost in the steaming process. But yeah, I bet it is an acquired taste, but beets cooked anyway are too. I'll have to drum up the courage some day to have a very EARTHY smoothie.


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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [mauricemaher] [ In reply to ]
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mauricemaher wrote:
I just throw two raw beets, spinach, some yogurt and maybe frozen berries or OJ in the ninja.

Do you lose anything (nutrients) with raw beets?

Of course all taste is acquired, my wife calls it the dirt smoothie.

Maurice

I would do the same recipe in the Ninja (except with canned beets) and my wife called it the same. Maybe they are on to something.
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Basically just Beet Root. You can buy 2.2 lbs of Beet Root for < $20. I would say 1500 mg of Beet Root for $50 is pretty pricey.

Does that have that dirt taste?
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
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TulkasTri wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Basically just Beet Root. You can buy 2.2 lbs of Beet Root for < $20. I would say 1500 mg of Beet Root for $50 is pretty pricey.


Does that have that dirt taste?


I have used a product called Beet Boost for years but it is beets + tart cherry and so imagine the cherry cuts the taste a bit. I like the taste of beets but in general beets is highly acquired taste from my experience. If you are using the powder I definitely suggest planning it around as an additive for smoothies. I am sure it is will have an earth flavor if you aren't accustomed to it.


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Last edited by: Thomas Gerlach: May 17, 18 9:40
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [Rest] [ In reply to ]
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Rest wrote:
just as effective as halo sports headphones.

As someone who likes beet on my salads I am offended by this!
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Triathlete magazine and AltRed is pushing this article on FB.

http://www.triathlete.com/2018/05/nutrition/beets-increased-power-output-nobody-knows_323168


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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [TriathlonJoe] [ In reply to ]
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TriathlonJoe wrote:
Triathlete magazine and AltRed is pushing this article on FB.

http://www.triathlete.com/2018/05/nutrition/beets-increased-power-output-nobody-knows_323168


Yea, just saw that the other day. Eric came on ST and tried to peddle it but it was removed for some reason. Discussion got typical, so it seems no real evidence of anything other than $$ drain so far.
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Re: Anyone know anything or have any experience with AltRed? [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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It's not bad stuff but certainly not as good as the Himalayan Beets.
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