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** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike.
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Title saids it all. Only one team ran all P4s and they won. Two teams, atleast, had Speedconcepts and both were beat by the only all P4 team.


Just think if they had Ventus bars and standard water bottle
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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It's true.

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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That's true, except that the team with the p4's had deeper front wheels than the teams with the SC's, so we will never know which is faster
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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Mike bike is faster than your bike - na na na na na.

These posts are some lame dude, give it a rest
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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And apparently Mavic wheels are the fastest now too....Zipp who?

Bob
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [Macho Grande] [ In reply to ]
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Macho Grande wrote:
And apparently Mavic wheels are the fastest now too....Zipp who?

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when can we BUY those deep mavics anyway?



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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Who says you'll ever be able to? If they're labeled PROTOTYPE there are, as I understand, not subject to patent issues.

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [Macho Grande] [ In reply to ]
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nobody but I want em
well not really I'm full up on wheels but maybe if I taco another one on a car I will.

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Who says you'll ever be able to? If they're labeled PROTOTYPE there are, as I understand, not subject to patent issues.

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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At th tour all the bikes are pretty much even in my mind. It is the riders not the bike. Cancellara rode Cervelo a few years ago and he was a world champion, He then rode a Specialized and again was world champion and now he is the premeier time trial rider and he rides Trek. So what does this mean. it means it is the engine not the frame.
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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You new here Scot?

BMC missed the yellow jersey by 1 second today

In that context one could say it is about having the most aero radio antennas =)

Also all 3 bikes Cancellara won on were among the top bikes in the Peleton. Not every team is so lucky. Fortunately the gap between fabian and everyone else is so high that he would probably win on any TT frame currently in the pro-tour.

But not an eddy m rules frame!


Scot wrote:
At th tour all the bikes are pretty much even in my mind. It is the riders not the bike. Cancellara rode Cervelo a few years ago and he was a world champion, He then rode a Specialized and again was world champion and now he is the premeier time trial rider and he rides Trek. So what does this mean. it means it is the engine not the frame.



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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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Considering the deficit of the bikes and helmets sky used they would of won by two minutes if they had better equipment!

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [msuguy512] [ In reply to ]
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Considering the deficit of the bikes and helmets sky used they would of won by two minutes if they had better equipment!

you shut up those helmets are awesome, I don't even care if they are slow I want one.



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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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Title saids it all. Only one team ran all P4s and they won. Two teams, atleast, had Speedconcepts and both were beat by the only all P4 team.
Just think if they had Ventus bars and standard water bottle

It wasn't the bike, it was purely they were running the right sized tires at the right pressure given the barimaric pressure for that moment.

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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That is pretty funny, because I was thinking the same thing. All the naysayers were poo-pooing Cervelo the last couple of years for not winning anything big without recognizing that they had no great time trial riders. Now they inherit the garmin folks and whatdayaknow--they are the fastest in the world.
Not that I'm saying bikes don't matter--they do--but there are now enough Cervelos, Treks and Specialized bikes out there that things are pretty even.
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [cdw] [ In reply to ]
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For sure - the debate needs to end now.

BMC are clearly the fastest bikes.
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msuguy512 wrote:
Considering the deficit of the bikes and helmets sky used they would of won by two minutes if they had better equipment!

Can't say I'm too keen on the Pinarello Graal, but I do like what Sky have done with the Di2 base bar shift/brake levers,



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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
msuguy512 wrote:
Considering the deficit of the bikes and helmets sky used they would of won by two minutes if they had better equipment!


you shut up those helmets are awesome, I don't even care if they are slow I want one.

I keep looking to see if those Kask helmets come up on their website...so far, no joy in Mudville.

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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Scot wrote:
At th tour all the bikes are pretty much even in my mind. It is the riders not the bike. Cancellara rode Cervelo a few years ago and he was a world champion, He then rode a Specialized and again was world champion and now he is the premeier time trial rider and he rides Trek. So what does this mean. it means it is the engine not the frame.

You hit the nail on the head my son
If Team Garmin rode a TTT on Cervelo, then hopped on a specialized and then Trek, and then BMC [all with identical componentry] Id suggest the times would be with a handful of seconds.

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [RoYe] [ In reply to ]
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RoYe wrote:
You hit the nail on the head my son
If Team Garmin rode a TTT on Cervelo, then hopped on a specialized and then Trek, and then BMC [all with identical componentry] Id suggest the times would be with a handful of seconds.

yeah but they won by only a handful of seconds =)



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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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You all have it wrong. Cervelo, Trek, Specialized and BMC are alright but really it is Scott that is fastest. Did you see Vanhoenacker time today when he smashed the Ironman world record. Cervelo, Trek, Specialized and BMC did not set any world records today.

I am so buying a Scott. If I can not get the Scott I would settle for a Cervelo.
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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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it's not about the bike

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BMANX wrote:
Did you see Vanhoenacker time today when he smashed the Ironman world record.

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Re: ** Spoiler ** TDF Team TT today should finally end all debate on the fastest tri bike. [bartturner] [ In reply to ]
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Just think if they had the P5.
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Anybody think Cervelo is saving the P5 debut for the individual time trial?
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