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'08 TT/duathlon bike setup
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53x12
Jan 3, 08 0:46
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I am a 24yo road biker who is going to get my first TT specific bike and start doing some TT races and possibly duathlons. After going to my LBS and testing out some bikes, I am settled on the P2C. Now the only issue that I have is whether to go DA or Ultegra. I have only had Ultegra on my road bikes and have loved it. However if I ever upgrade to DA now would be the time with my first TT bike. I have been told the weight difference between the DA and Ultegra models is around .4-.5 lbs with components, cranks, fork, wheelset...etc. accounted for. I'm not sure if the extra $500 is worth it since I could put that money towards some race wheels. I wonder if the durability between the two might be worth it? Probably not though. Just a couple quick questions:

1) What is the difference between the FSA Gossamer MegaExoFSA and the SLK MegaExo Carbon cranksets? I have heard a lot of negative comments about FSA and am actually thinking of staying clear of them if possible for my crankset. Maybe just swap out to something else on my own. Is the difference between the two worth the extra money?

2) Wolf TT vs. the Wolf CL fork, what is the difference? Is it weight/aero? Not sure if this really makes up the $500 difference.

The LBS that I am getting my bike from is also doing a free fit for me with the purchase of the bike, so that is good to go. I am also planning on getting a TT specific helmet, so I should have most of the major bases covered. The other issue is the wheels which I will be saving up for. I'm not sure I should mention it in this thread or start another, but what do you guys think of a Renn/Hed disc and Hed3 front? Would that be a fairly good all around setup? I would love some Zipps, but as a student my budget wont be able to stretch that far.
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neil_laing
Jan 3, 08 1:27
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Ok, I'll bite.

1) Stick with Ultegra. I do. It's plenty good enough, and as you say the savings can be put towards wheels, helmet etc. Besides, most of the weight and cost difference between Ultegra and DA is in the STI shifters - which you won't be using.

With regards to the crankset, why not just go for Ultegra as well.

2) Doesn't the P2C come with a fork? You shouldn't need to pick and choose. I have the regular fork, and it's fine.

3) Zipps are overpriced and over rated (Ducks and hides :-) ). Absolutely nothing wrong with Hed. I ran a Hed disc for years, and still have my front trispoke. The fact that the design has stood the test of time proves it's a good choice. It also happens to be the choice of Lance, T-mobile, and various others who are not paid to ride it. I can also recommed Planet X wheels.


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dtreeps
Jan 3, 08 3:14
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http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/ here is an article from tom about it. I would say ultegra. I have an fsa crank. I think the main problem is the bbs . I would go with ultegra or if you want compact the r700 or whatever it's called. shimano has very few problems.

there are three forks from cervelo. the regular tt (alloy steerer), the CL which also is alloy but is a smaller shape for 100 plus grams savings, and the SL which has a carbon steerer for another 100 plus savings.

I think any of they will be fine.

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artmus
Jan 3, 08 5:37
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Shifters will be D/A regardless, as that is all Shimano makes for bar-end shifters... The only other place where you may notice an actual difference between Ultegra and D/A is with the crankset. There is a fairly substantial wight difference. Talk to your LBS. There shouldn't be a big cost discrepency between the stock Carbon FSA and a D/A crank, so it may be worth the upgrade. Otherwise, I say save the money for race wheels, they will give you much more benefit over D/A components. Do not get the Gossamer crank! Very heavy. 99% of the issues FSA had in the past was with their K-Force crank, not the SLK, so I wouldn't be too worried about it failing if you decide to stay with it. Even if you come across a bad crank, FSA will replace it ASAP.

I have never been much of a fan of ZIPP wheels, although we have sold a few '08 wheelsets and I have to say that the quality is much better. Still very pricey though. Hed offers great quality for the money.
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MadTownTri74
Jan 3, 08 9:11
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I could be completely wrong on this but I recall seeing the picture of the P2C Ultegra and it looked like it came with an FSA S-LK carbon crank on it. I am going to see if I can find the post.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._string=p2c;#1599900 It certainly looks like an s-lk to me. =)
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Mr. Blonde
Jan 3, 08 9:22
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I too believe that money is better spent on other things rather than the Dura-Ace upgrade. I've been researching the '08 P2C as well and I'm close to buying. However, from what I've seen, if you get the Ultegra build you're stuck with black, white, and silver paint using the lame '07 graphics. You have to get the Dura-Ace build to get the red, white, and black with the new paint scheme. Does anyone else have any information on this? I've written Cervelo, but I've not received a response yet. See the "Two Versions" here:

http://www.cervelo.com/....aspx?bike=P2C2008#3

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53x12
Jan 3, 08 14:11
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I could be completely wrong on this but I recall seeing the picture of the P2C Ultegra and it looked like it came with an FSA S-LK carbon crank on it. I am going to see if I can find the post.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._string=p2c;#1599900 It certainly looks like an s-lk to me. =)

Talking to my LBS, the Ultegra build will come with the FSA Gossamer MegaExo and the DA model will have the FSA SLK MegaExo Carbon setup. I haven't talked to them about swapping out the Gossamer for a different crankset yet. That is probably something that I will want them to do as that is probably the weakest part on the Ultegra P2C.
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newbz
Jan 3, 08 14:43
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go with the ultegra and get some race wheels and/or an aero helmet.

good luck getting into multisport races, they are a blast!

and get whichever fork it comes with, all are good and you cant go wrong with any of them. i have been on the wolf TT and CL and loved both,
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53x12
Jan 3, 08 14:46
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go with the ultegra and get some race wheels and/or an aero helmet.

good luck getting into multisport races, they are a blast!

and get whichever fork it comes with, all are good and you cant go wrong with any of them. i have been on the wolf TT and CL and loved both,
Yeah the Ultegra comes with the Wolf TT, but a lot of the TT Tour races were won on that fork so it can't be that bad. While the CL might be lighter, the TT will be great until I ever feel the need to upgrade. I probably won't ever have to since it is a really good fork. I don't think Cervelo would use it if it wasn't.
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newbz
Jan 3, 08 14:54
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i would go with it. if there is a diff its not small enough to be worth it (at least not to me).
the money is much better spent elsewhere.

With the expection of some of the brakes on their lower end bikes i have had no issues at all with any parts on cervelo bikes, and have been very happy with everything of theirs i have owned or been on from a friend (two diff duals, a P2sl, and the team soloist). never been on their carbon bikes but i'm assuming they are amazing as well.
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53x12
Jan 3, 08 20:59
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i would go with it. if there is a diff its not small enough to be worth it (at least not to me).
the money is much better spent elsewhere.

With the expection of some of the brakes on their lower end bikes i have had no issues at all with any parts on cervelo bikes, and have been very happy with everything of theirs i have owned or been on from a friend (two diff duals, a P2sl, and the team soloist). never been on their carbon bikes but i'm assuming they are amazing as well.
Only thing left for me to figure out is whether I am happy with the paint scheme for the Ultegra. Wish I could see th gray scheme with some race wheels on it rather than the stock training wheels.
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newbz
Jan 3, 08 22:00
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i just repainted my carbon frame because i wanted a new color, took about 3 days, and is looking amazing, just need to finish it up now
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rcdenner
Jan 3, 08 22:22
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dude, i think the silver/black looks BAD ASS.

Hey, if you aren't gonna win the race, you gotta at least look good racing. There are a lot of silver-ish aero helmets, all race wheels are black (some more than others), your tri shorts are most likely black - get a matching top and you are gonna look even more bad ass when you blaze past someone on a P2C DuraAce.

read this article if you haven't: https://www.bikesportmichigan.com/...ra-ace-ultegra.shtml
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53x12
Jan 3, 08 22:32
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dude, i think the silver/black looks BAD ASS.

Hey, if you aren't gonna win the race, you gotta at least look good racing. There are a lot of silver-ish aero helmets, all race wheels are black (some more than others), your tri shorts are most likely black - get a matching top and you are gonna look even more bad ass when you blaze past someone on a P2C DuraAce.

read this article if you haven't: https://www.bikesportmichigan.com/...ra-ace-ultegra.shtml
I have read that article, it is very good. Thanks for the link. Basically what I took out of that article is that Ultegra is very good for its money and no sense in spending the extra $$$ on DA if you don't have it.

I was thinking that the ultegra P2C would look very sweet with a Renn 575/Kaiser disc with their black/silver coloring.
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