Right total waste. If you have untold income, fine. But equipment is meant to be used.

Equipment is meant to be used for its rightful purpose.

One doesn't drive nails with the butt of a screwdriver handle just because it's in the tool box.

Umm yeah. I’m not arguing that bikes and wheels are meant to ride across the ocean. I assume you aren’t arguing that bikes and wheels aren’t meant to be used for cycling.

I'm arguing that various bikes have different purposes, and should be ridden primarily for those purposes. If someone has race wheels or a race bike that they don't train on, who are you to judge that it's a "right total waste"? FWIW, you have it twisted. If you have limited income, you don't risk destroying your race gear by frequent use.

This is a good idea. I learned it hard way. Went to a bike rally with a rear disc wheel, crashed and buckled Zipp Super 9. Definitely, I should have kept it for races and used training wheels but back then, I didn’t have any extra wheels for training purpose. I do a lot of races in a year so disc wheel gets used a lot. Ended up spending a lot of money to buy another one.

+1 for HED. My Vanquish wheel set has been one of my best bike-related purchases.

Agreed. One doesn't do all their running in carbon plated race shoes....

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Got it. Agree to disagree that bike equipment should become museum pieces. I’ve never once “destroyed” a bike wheel by merely using it for its intended purpose.

At least for me, this is a decision in economics. I wouldn’t have an issue buying carbon plates run shoes for $300 and limiting use. I limit use of my trisuits to very limited training and races. But for me, when it comes to a pricey wheelset, I personally choose to enjoy them as much as possible. To each his own.

I guess we’re in agreement. I don’t think bike equipment should become museum pieces, either.

With a rim brake bike, riding a set of trainers made sense as braking could be poor especially in wet mountains roads on carbon. With disc brake bikes, I don’t see a reason to have multiple sets for a tri bike. No I’m not gonna ride a rear disc everyday but I will run an 80 deep DT Swiss. I don’t think you can beat the work done by the guys at Swiss side. That being said, I will buy a wheelsfar disc because I can’t see spending more than $1k on a rear wheel I only ride a few times per year for .5 watts difference IF THAT…

Not sure of the ETRTO standards for 2024 on bike wheels but I do know they are moving wider & many such as Zipp are not quite on the internal width game plan from what I understand. DT Swiss is a "trending brand" much like Enve was a few years ago. Hard to go wrong with quality like HED but some don't like spoked disc wheels & the no-"whomp whomp sound effect" of HEDs...which really has zero effect on the performance itself. However, one to also look at that is getting good reviews is a newer company called "LIGHT BICYCLE" wheels. They are Chinese & not to be confused with "Lightweight" wheels (the uber exclusive overly priced brand from Germany). But the internal widths of the LIGHT brand are current and one of the wider ones you'll find out there. Zipps are quite narrow on the internal width.

Zipps are due for a price reduction in their wheels to keep pace I think...overpriced for sure. DT Swiss / Suisseside are not a whole lot better in price. Better or as good of wheels out there for much less. I'd check out LIGHT and very much check out HED. Sam Laidlow rides HED, Armstrong rode HED, the Big Four rode HED. Has to be fast right? Lionel rides HED.

Agree, how on earth Zipp (Sram..) or DT Swiss justify their prices is bewildering! It's not as if there is any research and development costs to cover...oh wait yeah, they mimicked a 150 ton whale that travel 5 mph through water for their latest wheels that were absolute rubbish.

When I was looking at new race wheels last year I really wanted the Parcours disc/chronic set ($2100) but the DB disc was forever backordered. Both have wide internal and external rim width to flush fit 28mm tires. Something many companies don't offer for disc wheel.

I ultimately got three wheels from three different manufacturers - 80mm DT Swiss, Revolver trispoke clone for front and Prime disc wheel. After looking at retired technology HED and Zipp disc wheels collecting dust in my garage there was no way I was going to spend a lot for a DB disc.

The trispoke/disc has been an outstanding combination for windy races.

Have fun with your new bike! Post a picture when you get it set up.

What tire are you running in the Prime Disc please?

Last season 25mm Goodyear Eagle F1 SS R tlc with Vittoria Airliner. About the same RR as gp5000 tl but easier to mount and fits Airliner in case of blowout. I may use something different this season.

Is anyone tried Parcours?

I won’t dilute the overall debate here but happy to help if you have any specific questions

Well if you want a like new set of HED race wheels, tubeless compatible, at a steep discount:


https://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._string=hed#p8069890

+2 for HED.
Vanquish 4's on my road bike
Vanquish 8's on my TT bike (+ Vanquish Disc for race day)
Ardennes on my wife's road bike

I've had experience with the Jet Black+ line on my last TT bike as well

Every single wheel was fantastic. Not one issue with the lot of them.
Cheaper, better quality, most are made in the USA.
(and I think if you searched this forum, you'd find that they actually test fastest anyway)