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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Hey firstly thanks for the encouragement (moral side) that we will get back to doing things that make life worth living. This version of life, if it happens forever would be best terminated getting in a cab and jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and getting it over with.


I have had this exact same discussion with some of my customers who have said, "we're not ready to buy and have to get through this pandemic, and we'll come back to explore this project with you in summer of 2021". In one meeting I said, "if every customer does nothing with us, we won't be able to support you THEN for what you want then, since we have to pay all our staff in the mean time and can't do it off fumes". So in that vein, rather than hold on to my personal money, I gave it to employees to spend (I paid them small bonuses out of my own paycheque for hard work since our revenue does not support them gettting bonuses and my standard of living is super low and don't spend much $$$). Those $$$ did not go into the triathlon market, but they did not sit idle in my bank account either and went into the economy.

But I do get if none of us buy then when the world gets to doing things we love (and I hope you are waaaaay more right than how I am feeling now), the suppliers of "us" will be limping along. In that vein, I asked race directors whose races I registered in 2020 who offered full refunds to "keep my money" as I want them around and motivated to put on these races next year.

Sounds like you're justifiably feeling a bit low. If Canada is anything like here, its a non stop stream of fear porn. If you want some solid analysis and rational thought on the Pandemic I would recommend following Professor Francois Balloux out of the University of London. Extremely balanced, no sugar coating.
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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [Uncle Arqyle] [ In reply to ]
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Uncle Arqyle wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Hey firstly thanks for the encouragement (moral side) that we will get back to doing things that make life worth living. This version of life, if it happens forever would be best terminated getting in a cab and jumping off the Golden Gate bridge and getting it over with.


I have had this exact same discussion with some of my customers who have said, "we're not ready to buy and have to get through this pandemic, and we'll come back to explore this project with you in summer of 2021". In one meeting I said, "if every customer does nothing with us, we won't be able to support you THEN for what you want then, since we have to pay all our staff in the mean time and can't do it off fumes". So in that vein, rather than hold on to my personal money, I gave it to employees to spend (I paid them small bonuses out of my own paycheque for hard work since our revenue does not support them gettting bonuses and my standard of living is super low and don't spend much $$$). Those $$$ did not go into the triathlon market, but they did not sit idle in my bank account either and went into the economy.

But I do get if none of us buy then when the world gets to doing things we love (and I hope you are waaaaay more right than how I am feeling now), the suppliers of "us" will be limping along. In that vein, I asked race directors whose races I registered in 2020 who offered full refunds to "keep my money" as I want them around and motivated to put on these races next year.


Sounds like you're justifiably feeling a bit low. If Canada is anything like here, its a non stop stream of fear porn. If you want some solid analysis and rational thought on the Pandemic I would recommend following Professor Francois Balloux out of the University of London. Extremely balanced, no sugar coating.

Back to the LR with that junk dude. Don't spill it out in here.
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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So, Paul, what has your decision been?

Am in a similar position: Cannondale Slice from 2013 (still in its 105 original glory, incl. tires, see stock picture below), with full triathlon planned for Oct '21.

I feel that none of the options make sense:
1 - Buy a budget gravel bike as n+1 to get out more, even when weather is not so good, or road is a bit muddy/slippery (but then again, I would have two sub-optimal bikes)
2 - Buy a nice all-road bike (One Up or Pinarello Gravel) with two wheel sets and sell my slice (but would have a suboptimal set up for full triathlon in October)
3 - Upgrade my slice so I can spend my money on components, as the frame is reasonable (but would buy wheels & components for an older bike)

Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated!

Marynus

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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [Marynus] [ In reply to ]
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What distances are a full triathlon?
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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Ok here's my take. It sounds like a pretty old bike and something will likely force you to upgrade sooner or later like a crash or you wear something out that isn't worth replacing. So keep in mind if you buy a gravel bike you might need to get a new TT bike unexpectedly. If that's not a problem, I'd build your bike barn and get the gravel. If that is a problem, I'd wait until COVID is over before upgrading and go with the TT bike.

I still lapped everyone on the couch!
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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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jimatbeyond wrote:
What distances are a full triathlon?

Twice the length of a half triathlon.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [Marynus] [ In reply to ]
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Marynus wrote:
So, Paul, what has your decision been?

Am in a similar position: Cannondale Slice from 2013 (still in its 105 original glory, incl. tires, see stock picture below), with full triathlon planned for Oct '21.

I feel that none of the options make sense:
1 - Buy a budget gravel bike as n+1 to get out more, even when weather is not so good, or road is a bit muddy/slippery (but then again, I would have two sub-optimal bikes)
2 - Buy a nice all-road bike (One Up or Pinarello Gravel) with two wheel sets and sell my slice (but would have a suboptimal set up for full triathlon in October)
3 - Upgrade my slice so I can spend my money on components, as the frame is reasonable (but would buy wheels & components for an older bike)

Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated!

Marynus

Have you been doing Tris consistently since you purchased the bike (in 2013?)? If yes, than a tribike upgrade makes sense.
Do you have another bike besides the tri bike?
If you don't, than I would upgrade to a newer tri bike (like the P-series) with disc wheels.

Or you could buy a nice used Trek SC for a great price and get wheels for it.
Or you could just buy wheels for your cannondale and then get the road bike. 105 is good enough, no need to upgrade that.
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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [Marynus] [ In reply to ]
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Marynus wrote:
So, Paul, what has your decision been?

Am in a similar position: Cannondale Slice from 2013 (still in its 105 original glory, incl. tires, see stock picture below), with full triathlon planned for Oct '21.

I feel that none of the options make sense:
1 - Buy a budget gravel bike as n+1 to get out more, even when weather is not so good, or road is a bit muddy/slippery (but then again, I would have two sub-optimal bikes)
2 - Buy a nice all-road bike (One Up or Pinarello Gravel) with two wheel sets and sell my slice (but would have a suboptimal set up for full triathlon in October)
3 - Upgrade my slice so I can spend my money on components, as the frame is reasonable (but would buy wheels & components for an older bike)

Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated!

Marynus

I am still holding out and have bought nothing. The way I see it, my old Slice will do should racing start up in the summer/fall. Like many things in life, I am marking time so that I am set up to do whatever is possible with what I have (both in business life and sport). No tri bike (actually no bikes), maybe a new swim suit, probably some new running shoes.

I think the only thing I have actually bought this year other than groceries, and utilities and a bit of gas are a few stocks that I am playing long.

But I am certain I will buy a new tri bike either new or used in the next 48 months.
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Re: Why Even Bother Getting a New TT bike? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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On similar subject, has been riding 2016 Slice in occasional races sprints, olympic up to 70.3s, duathlons .
If I could travel in time would get the Ultegra Di2 instead of 105 group. Immediately upgraded
the cockpit, stock wheel set, saddle. Bottom line, like the frame, fast enough for me, comfy, plan
to pull the trigger on Di2 upgrade one day. I've been thinking about longevity of the frame material
though, for how long can one keep carbon frame, five years, ten years, more or as long as it rides.
Own five years old aluminum roadie as well (CAAD10), every time Cannondale releases new generation
of CAADs I'm getting into the upgrade state of mind then ride good old CAAD a bit to forget about it.
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