-The Big Four
-QR Roadshow
-PNF domination
-Puntous twins
-Tinley tri wear
-Ironman wasn't trademarked
-Kona spots at St. Anthony's O-distance and Gulf Coast Half-Ironman
-Results were mailed to you
-The terms Tinman and biathlon
-Lots of trial and error in training
-Squeezy Leppins (sp)
-IM souvenirs and t-shirts at the Wal Mart in Kona
-Nylon helmet covers
-Huddle and Frey's 'Ask a Coach' column
-Races with individual flavors, no cookie-cutter crap yet
-Fred Sommers (CFT sports) bringing tris of all distances to Floridians and crazy growth to Clermont
-Joe Bonness racing the Great Floridian IM distance a week after Kona, usually wailing on his ag in both
-Swims weren't cancelled cause the water was rough
-Crop tops and speedos for guys
-high waisted bathing suit bottoms and jog bras for girls
-Neon
-Kenny Souza pin-up poster (someone at work tore his pic out of my magazine and hung it up in her office)

Original poster here. Ok, you woke me up from a LONG slumber away from ST. How about when they referred to Duathlon as a Cyruthon? The same era when it was Biathlon, but that term had to be re imagined with the winter sport confusion. I did the Cyruthon in Whistler B.C., might have been early 90's .

Ha Ha I clearly remember Joe Bonness flying by me in many Ironmans at mile 60-80 on the bike with his funny bike and Camelbak. Sometimes I would catch him on the run, most times not. It would all depend on how many Ironmans he did that month.

I bet no one had to trademark cyruthon. :) Just realized you began this amazing thread in2007!! Thanks, Rip (as in Van Winkle). So enjoyable!

Good memories!

lol- Bonness was the precursor to the Iron Cowboy!

No problems with doing ironman on my steel road bike:)

I rode a Centurion Turbo, before they combined the Turbo and Comp TA and called it the Dave Scott Ironman. I still have a Dave Scott Expert... and have even contemplated riding it in an IM

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Being asked by a local pro bike racer “What the F Are those???”

While looking at one of the first pairs of aero bars in upstate NY

Then being told they were a fad and a waste of money

(1) The original SI article on the Ironman.
(2) The time before anyone had broken 3 hours for the marathon leg
(3) The time before anyone had broken 9 hours
(4) For New Englanders: George Missilaides(spelling?), Gary Passler, Marc Surprenant (all high placings in the Endurance Triathlon when on Cape Cod in 1983, 1984) (first East Coast Iron I believe)
(5) Sark Bars (pre-existing technology referred to in Profile's patent applications) (I still use them.)
(6) Going training on the path next to the Charles River (in 1984, I believe, my second year in tris) and coming across an all-women's triathlon benefitting the Harvard Women's Crew or Swim Team. Only one woman had finished (she had borrowed a bike from a roommate) and another roommate finished second. So I talked to the winner for a while during the time they were waiting for second place; she told me it was her first triathlon and her name was Karen Smyers.
(7) Going to Ironman Canada in 1987 and going to dinner with a group of people including Lyn van Dov (spelling?). The guy on my right told a really awesome story about why he loved triathlon. While I wasn't happy with some of his decisions after he got a different job, Les MacDonald seemed like a very nice guy who loved triathlons.
(8) You remember when Dave McGillivray was more involved with triathlon and wasn't yet the race director for the Boston Marathon. (At my first job, as an actuary (1981), I was told that I was replacing Dave, who had left to run cross the country to raise money for the Jimmy Fund.)
(9) Ultras before Guy Rossi was involved. (1986)
(10) Ironman Slide Shows (If anyone has 1987 I would love to get a copy, as I'm in the second-to-last photo, but I only have the photo and not the slide show.)
(11) Double Brown and Kiwi Lager Ironmans in Auckland (I hope those names are correct.)

...and one I forgot:
(12) Hearing there was a really good young cyclist coming up through the ranks who might make an impact in the world of cycling: Greg Lemond

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Tri or tri not; this is no du. (--- with apologies to Yoda.) Slow triathlete who survived Huntsville, Lelystadt, Colmar, Fontanil, and
Szekesfehervar/Lake Velence. Arbor hydration specialist in a kid's park in Monterrey 4 times in the 1990s (and in the pits in 1994).

Bonness qualified for Kona many times and had many IM AG wins, basically one of the best of the best AGers at the IM distance. Who is Iron Cowboy?

Should now read "PhDs in Engineering and Exercise Science." My lone phd leaves me wanting much much more every time I touch a bike.

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(7) Going to Ironman Canada in 1987 and going to dinner with a group of people including Lyn van Dov (spelling?). The guy on my right told a really awesome story about why he loved triathlon. While I wasn't happy with some of his decisions after he got a different job, Les MacDonald seemed like a very nice guy who loved triathlons.


Les loved triathlon, and he loved a great story. After he founded the ITU and became it's first President, then started the push to get Triathlon in the Olympic Games, and was often in a battle with IRONMAN, it's important to note that Les, started out in his early years as a triathlete himself, racing IM races. In fact, I think he held an Age Group Course record at either IMC or IMH back in those mid 1980's years.

I was recently involved in a double Interview with Simon Whitfield and Chris McCormack - most of the discussion was about the fact that Simon, won that first Olympic Games triathlon and Macca, inexplicably was left OFF the Australian Team - and how THAT came to be!! But Les's name did come up a few times and the massive importance of the work he did getting triathlon into the Olympic Games so that day could actually happen!

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Should now read "PhDs in Engineering and Exercise Science." My lone phd leaves me wanting much much more every time I touch a bike.


I still like simple.

Just recently Alex Hutchinson wrote, a piece for Outside Magazine about a huge meta-analysis study done to determine which actual interval session yield, results. This looked at research over many years of many different kinds of workouts here are the two that worked:

1) A "VO2 max" session of 4 - 5 mins of running hard alternating with a 2 - 3 minute rest, times 5 - 6. Interestingly, it seemed to matter little how hard relatively you do the harder intervals. As long as they were above "tempo" level pace, it yielded the about the same results as if you almost killed yourself on each one!

2) 20 - 30 sec "sprint" type intervals, preferably up a hill, with a 4 minute or so recovery. These are done at close to all-out. Repeat 10 - 20 times.

What I found ironic and funny about this, is back when I started training as a distance runner, 40+ years ago 2 sessions my Coach of the time had us do were repeat Miles in 5 minutes or less on the track or trail, with a 2 - 3 minute jog recovery, and/or classic hill repeats up a steep hill of about 100 to 200m!!

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B & L Bike & Sports

Nytro......

The Bike Barn, when it stocked tri-bikes.

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Couldn't agree more. The training side of things is far simpler than the engineering side. I don't think it's because I just understand it better either.

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Mounting a dismounting your bike, right at the rack. And believing that oval chain rings gave you free speed, only to find out a couple years later, that biopace got it wrong by 45 degrees.

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Hadn't realised you were a Tab!

They certainly don't give PhDs away.

MPhils occasionally...

"Tab"?

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I don't think anyone mentioned this back-of-saddle bar.
I think the idea was to push back against it to drive a bigger gear.
I seem to recall it was a late 80s-early 90s product, maybe an Aussie or a Kiwi company, targeted at the triathlete market.
Anybody remember the manufacturer or the product name? Anybody use one?

J-Disc, esp in Pigg Pink!

Free to anyone who wants it (just pay shipping). 12x23 7 speed DA cassette included.