Ferdly or Fredly or who knows? : I don't find your arguments pursuasive. I also think people should identify themselves, particularly if they are going to take someone to task for being blatantly commercial or otherwise criticize them. Banging on Frank Day from an anonymous computer is pusillanimous, er, or some big word like that.

-Robert

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"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." ~Anne Frank

well this thread has taken an interesting turn. as for myself i dig my PC's the most, and rank them right up there with index/sti/ergo shifting and front susp on mt bikes as far as addding to the quality and enjoyment of cycling goes. without mr day's prolific posting i would never have experienced them and i am in his debt for that. time was i bashed both him and his product for similar reasons as the posters above and more - and again i am beholden to him for being as thick skinned as he is. the product is by its nature drawing of discussion and debate as everybody knows and so comparing mr day's presence to mr demmerly's or gerard's is not really apprapo, IMHO.

by contrast, there is no amount of posts on drafting in draft free races or taking illegal performance enhancing substances that will EVER cause me to rethink those positions. isn't that what the thread was about ????