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Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ
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The finding out continues unabated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/...s-arizona-rcna149214

The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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Again, the Schadenfreude is strong.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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I wonder what the breakdown is between the delusional ones who really believe the election was stolen which apparently then justifies them breaking the law to put matters right, and the ones where it's just a pure power grab and they know damn well Trump lost and are willing to break the law to put him in power.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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Also charged is Trump attorney Christina Bobb. You may recognize her from her appointment by the RNC to chair the Election Integrity Council. Because of course.

https://www.americanoversight.org/...r-election-integrity

The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
Also charged is Trump attorney Christina Bobb. You may recognize her from her appointment by the RNC to chair the Election Integrity Council. Because of course.

https://www.americanoversight.org/...r-election-integrity


Let's stay focused on what's important here, did you hear Biden said, "pause" in a speech?
Last edited by: Thom: Apr 25, 24 7:55
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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ThisIsIt wrote:
I wonder what the breakdown is between the delusional ones who really believe the election was stolen which apparently then justifies them breaking the law to put matters right, and the ones where it's just a pure power grab and they know damn well Trump lost and are willing to break the law to put him in power.

Nobody really believes that the election was stolen. Well maybe some backwoods idiot, Maga fan does, but nobody who has anything to do with the uprising thinks it was stolen. They just think it was a good plan to get their boy back in.

Tell you what, you take any of those people who swear on a stack of bibles that the election was stolen, put them in the electric chair, and hook them up to a lie detector, and then ask them who was the legitimate winner of the election. They'll tell you every time that Trump was a loser!

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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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These morons videoed themselves committing their crimes. They documented their crimes in e-mails. This wasn't the fringe, this was the White House chief of staff, three of Trumps personal lawyers, and people that worked in the White House.

But egg prices are high so you can't vote for Biden.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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I wonder if we’re going to see prosecution of that forensics company that wrongfully took the AZ ballot data to a shed in Montana for analysis. That was so weird. I want those creepy people prosecuted because they infect simple-minded Montanas who should know better, but don’t.

The company is CyFIR and Ben Cotton runs it.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
The finding out continues unabated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/...s-arizona-rcna149214

The problem is no one will do a single thing about this. There are no longer consequences for actions like this if you are the gop.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
I wonder what the breakdown is between the delusional ones who really believe the election was stolen which apparently then justifies them breaking the law to put matters right, and the ones where it's just a pure power grab and they know damn well Trump lost and are willing to break the law to put him in power.


Nobody really believes that the election was stolen. Well maybe some backwoods idiot, Maga fan does, but nobody who has anything to do with the uprising thinks it was stolen. They just think it was a good plan to get their boy back in.

Tell you what, you take any of those people who swear on a stack of bibles that the election was stolen, put them in the electric chair, and hook them up to a lie detector, and then ask them who was the legitimate winner of the election. They'll tell you every time that Trump was a loser!


Certainly all the people involved in the fake electors knew that Trump lost the election.

Before the election, when Trump was talking about how it was going to be rigged if he lost, we discussed on this site how they could try to use a different slate of electors to try to steal the election. There is some historical precedent in 1824 and 1876, so they likely thought that what they were doing would not be considered a crime, but rather, at worst it would fail and everyone would move on.

ETA: but for their scheme to work, they had to convince enough people that the election results were doubtful, and they had to get the result pushed to the state legislatures. It was a scheme that might have worked.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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Kay Serrar wrote:
so they likely thought that what they were doing would not be considered a crime, but rather, at worst it would fail and everyone would move on.

First rule of coup: win the coup.
Second rule of coup: win the coup.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
Kay Serrar wrote:
so they likely thought that what they were doing would not be considered a crime, but rather, at worst it would fail and everyone would move on.


First rule of coup: win the coup.
Second rule of coup: win the coup.


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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
I wonder what the breakdown is between the delusional ones who really believe the election was stolen which apparently then justifies them breaking the law to put matters right, and the ones where it's just a pure power grab and they know damn well Trump lost and are willing to break the law to put him in power.


Nobody really believes that the election was stolen. Well maybe some backwoods idiot, Maga fan does, but nobody who has anything to do with the uprising thinks it was stolen. They just think it was a good plan to get their boy back in.

Tell you what, you take any of those people who swear on a stack of bibles that the election was stolen, put them in the electric chair, and hook them up to a lie detector, and then ask them who was the legitimate winner of the election. They'll tell you every time that Trump was a loser!

I'd pay money to watch that on PPV.

Trieatalot

It's a C minus world.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Nutella wrote:
These morons videoed themselves committing their crimes. They documented their crimes in e-mails. This wasn't the fringe, this was the White House chief of staff, three of Trumps personal lawyers, and people that worked in the White House.

But egg prices are high so you can't vote for Biden.

What I still have a hard time understanding is why it took so long for this case to move forward? What has been happening since 2021?

Trieatalot

It's a C minus world.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Trieatalot] [ In reply to ]
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Trieatalot wrote:
Nutella wrote:
These morons videoed themselves committing their crimes. They documented their crimes in e-mails. This wasn't the fringe, this was the White House chief of staff, three of Trumps personal lawyers, and people that worked in the White House.

But egg prices are high so you can't vote for Biden.

What I still have a hard time understanding is why it took so long for this case to move forward? What has been happening since 2021?

AZ had a Republican Attorney General. Current one took office January 2023.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Trieatalot] [ In reply to ]
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What I still have a hard time understanding is why it took so long for this case to move forward? What has been happening since 2021?//

It was covered up and ignored by their party, now party's over it appears...
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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j p o wrote:
Trieatalot wrote:
Nutella wrote:
These morons videoed themselves committing their crimes. They documented their crimes in e-mails. This wasn't the fringe, this was the White House chief of staff, three of Trumps personal lawyers, and people that worked in the White House.

But egg prices are high so you can't vote for Biden.

What I still have a hard time understanding is why it took so long for this case to move forward? What has been happening since 2021?

AZ had a Republican Attorney General. Current one took office January 2023.

True. Plus early on the DOJ was looking into it so the states held back. Garland eventually communicated that these should be state cases and the states scrambled to catch up.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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Happy 80th Birthday Rudy!






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Rudy Giuliani’s 80th birthday bash in Palm Beach was stormed “like it was Normandy” as the former New York City mayor was served with notice of his Arizona indictment, sources told The Post.
In front of nearly 75 guests, two officials with Arizona’s attorney general’s office arrived at the shindig around 11 p.m. to hand Giuliani the papers in the case alleging he and 17 others were involved in a plot to overturn the 2020 election, the sources said.
Some partygoers started screaming and one woman even cried as Giuliani was served.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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I feel slightly guilty for laughing out loud at the last line.

The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
I feel slightly guilty for laughing out loud at the last line.

Do we know for sure that was a woman and not Rudy? Lines have been blurred.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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sphere wrote:
I feel slightly guilty for laughing out loud at the last line.


I meant to post the link to the article.

There are a few other lines that made me chuckle.

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While the sun was still shining, the ex-mayor – donning shades and dress pants with a blue button-down and orange tie – belted out Frank Sinatra’s “New York, New York” over the microphone in the backyard of the Florida home.
He was all smiles around 10 p.m. as cake was served, posing for photos in a room full of birthday balloons.
But about an hour later the celebratory atmosphere shifted.
After he was served, Giuliani got in his car and left, sources said. The Post has reached out to him for comment.
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“In Arizona, and the United States, the people elected Joseph Biden as President on November 3, 2020,” the indictment says. “Unwilling to accept this fact, Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters.”


But- hold up- this is the funniest thing of the evening, he posted this just after 7pm last night




followed 4 hours later up by (accounting for the timezone diference):



Suffer Well.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
sphere wrote:
I feel slightly guilty for laughing out loud at the last line.


I meant to post the link to the article.

There are a few other lines that made me chuckle.

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While the sun was still shining, the ex-mayor – donning shades and dress pants with a blue button-down and orange tie – belted out Frank Sinatra’s “New York, New York” over the microphone in the backyard of the Florida home.
He was all smiles around 10 p.m. as cake was served, posing for photos in a room full of birthday balloons.
But about an hour later the celebratory atmosphere shifted.
After he was served, Giuliani got in his car and left, sources said. The Post has reached out to him for comment.
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“In Arizona, and the United States, the people elected Joseph Biden as President on November 3, 2020,” the indictment says. “Unwilling to accept this fact, Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters.”


But- hold up- this is the funniest thing of the evening, he posted this just after 7pm last night




followed 4 hours later up by (accounting for the timezone diference):


This is the Woodstock of schadenfreude. Glorious.

The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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What a dumbass! No wonder he fits so well with today's GOP leadership.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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One has to wonder who the mole was that turned him in.
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Re: Rudy, Meadows, others charged for fake elector scheme in AZ [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
sphere wrote:
I feel slightly guilty for laughing out loud at the last line.


I meant to post the link to the article.

There are a few other lines that made me chuckle.

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While the sun was still shining, the ex-mayor – donning shades and dress pants with a blue button-down and orange tie – belted out Frank Sinatra’s “New York, New York” over the microphone in the backyard of the Florida home.
He was all smiles around 10 p.m. as cake was served, posing for photos in a room full of birthday balloons.
But about an hour later the celebratory atmosphere shifted.
After he was served, Giuliani got in his car and left, sources said. The Post has reached out to him for comment.
...
“In Arizona, and the United States, the people elected Joseph Biden as President on November 3, 2020,” the indictment says. “Unwilling to accept this fact, Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters.”


But- hold up- this is the funniest thing of the evening, he posted this just after 7pm last night




followed 4 hours later up by (accounting for the timezone diference):


FO-FA=4(hrs)
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