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Re: PTO European Open [Jackets]
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Jackets wrote:
Women's start list is as good as I've ever seen for any race, seems like a lot of the big name men giving this one a miss though. Edit I did try and attach both start lists but my IT skills have failed me, anyone want to help me out??
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Hopefully Frodeno and Brownlee will get wildcards and we will see all Olympics gold medallists since 2008
Re: PTO European Open [marcag]
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marcag wrote:
Jackets wrote:
Women's start list is as good as I've ever seen for any race, seems like a lot of the big name men giving this one a miss though. Edit I did try and attach both start lists but my IT skills have failed me, anyone want to help me out??
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Hopefully Frodeno and Brownlee will get wildcards and we will see all Olympics gold medallists since 2008
Brownlee should have been listed: he was ranked (#37) way higher than several on that list when the 'cut' was made (ranking list as at 27 March).
https://stats.protriathletes.org/rankings/men?set=78
I assume they are keeping back his name to increase the impact of the wild card announcements.
"a lot of big men missing it" maybe. Who is missing from MPRO:
Iden
Sanders
Long
Iden has to get his short course game back on track and has Yokohama on 14 May.
https://wtcs.triathlon.org/...ries_yokohama/576164
Side note: Can't imagine Blummenfelt will go well in Japan 7 days after a hard Ibiza 100km, but he's reigning Olympic Champion - having fun - and Paris is a way off.
Sanders and Long recognise (youtube self-asserted) they'd get a good thrashing, plus an element of 'Monro Doctrine' reluctance to travel.
Chartier (no race so far in 2023 - is he injured? or just deliberately starting his season late)
Skipper (racing Texas and then WT Long Distance World Champs on 7 May, Ibiza)
Hanson (racing Texas)
Wurf (racing Texas and then Ineos duties (assumed)) At least the antipodeans have Royle, Neumann and Smith flying the flags.
Shame there's not a single MPRO Spaniard: Dapena was ranked high enough (#32) to get a roll-down slot (in the published list).
Re: PTO European Open [Ajax Bay]
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Ajax Bay wrote:
marcag wrote:
Jackets wrote:
Women's start list is as good as I've ever seen for any race, seems like a lot of the big name men giving this one a miss though. Edit I did try and attach both start lists but my IT skills have failed me, anyone want to help me out??
Here
Hopefully Frodeno and Brownlee will get wildcards and we will see all Olympics gold medallists since 2008
Brownlee should have been listed: he was ranked (#37) way higher than several on that list when the 'cut' was made (ranking list as at 27 March).
https://stats.protriathletes.org/rankings/men?set=78
I assume they are keeping back his name to increase the impact of the wild card announcements.
"a lot of big men missing it" maybe. Who is missing from MPRO:
Iden
Sanders
Long
Iden has to get his short course game back on track and has Yokohama on 14 May.
https://wtcs.triathlon.org/...ries_yokohama/576164
Side note: Can't imagine Blummenfelt will go well in Japan 7 days after a hard Ibiza 100km, but he's reigning Olympic Champion - having fun - and Paris is a way off.
Sanders and Long recognise (youtube self-asserted) they'd get a good thrashing, plus an element of reluctance to travel.
Chartier (no race so far in 2023 - is he injured? or just deliberately starting his season late)
Skipper (racing Texas and then WT Long Distance World Champs on 7 May, Ibiza)
Hanson (racing Texas)
Wurf (racing Texas and then Ineos duties (assumed)) At least the antipodeans have Royle, Neumann and Smith flying the flags.
Shame there's not a single MPRO Spaniard: Dapena was ranked high enough (#32) to get a roll-down slot (in the published list).
Dammit i was hoping for brownlee vs jan vs kristian! Maybe even iden! And now you are telling me only jan and kristian!
Wierd with skipper, but i guess he knows the distance is too short to make up for the bad swim?
Re: PTO European Open [Jackets]
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A lot of great athletes on the men's side, but I'm way more excited to watch the women's race.
Re: PTO European Open [Ajax Bay]
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Chartier (no race so far in 2023 - is he injured? or just deliberately starting his season late)
Re: PTO European Open [marcag]
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No chance of Gomez being included?
Re: PTO European Open [Changpao]
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Re: PTO European Open [Jackets]
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Jackets wrote:
No chance of Gomez being included?great call - seems like this format would suit him really well. would just love to see a fit javi back in the game.
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Re: PTO European Open [iron_mike]
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Jackets wrote:
No chance of Gomez being included?great call - seems like this format would suit him really well. would just love to see a fit javi back in the game.
I can't even remember the last time he raced, nothing on his Insta indicates he's injured, I know someone on here said he's been suffering from long covid, I do miss seeing him race!
Re: PTO European Open [lassekk]
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Changpao wrote:
A lot of great athletes on the men's side, but I'm way more excited to watch the women's race.True womens have the big 4 plus mat + gentle.
Would need jan ali, iden and blume to match
Q: can Frodeno drop blummenfelt in the water?
How can Gentle not be in 'the big 4' she's prety much the undisputed, undefeated champ?
Re: PTO European Open [lassekk]
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lassekk wrote:
Ajax Bay wrote:
Brownlee should have been listed: he was ranked (#37) way higher than several on that list when the 'cut' was made (ranking list as at 27 March). https://stats.protriathletes.org/rankings/men?set=78
I assume they are keeping back his name to increase the impact of the wild card announcements.
Wurf (racing Texas and then Ineos duties (assumed)) At least the antipodeans have Royle, Neumann and Smith flying the flags.
Shame there's not a single MPRO Spaniard: Dapena was ranked high enough (#32) to get a roll-down slot (in the published list).
Wierd with skipper, but i guess he knows the distance is too short to make up for the bad swim?
I'm not saying Brownlee won't be on the list. Wild cards are announced tomorrow: as said "I assume they are keeping back his name to increase the impact of the wild card announcements."
From CJWurf insta he is heading for IM Lanza in May (no mention of Texas).
https://files.constantcontact.com/...b8b-d6f69d45eccd.pdf
Gomez could get a wild card (as a nod to the host nation) but when an athlete has reached and stayed for several years on the top step, they have to be 'full on' ready. One assumes Frodeno is but no evidence: same with Gomez.
Re: PTO European Open [Jackets]
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I think it was 70.3 Pucon last year. He won the race although it really wasn't a stacked field. He has been MIA ever since. Based on his IG he did some testing with Plews in NZ but he has been pretty quite after that. Just like A. Brownlee, they are both incredible athletes, but I get the feeling that their best days are now behind them.
Re: PTO European Open [Jackets]
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Jackets wrote:
lassekk wrote:
Changpao wrote:
A lot of great athletes on the men's side, but I'm way more excited to watch the women's race.True womens have the big 4 plus mat + gentle.
Would need jan ali, iden and blume to match
Q: can Frodeno drop blummenfelt in the water?
How can Gentle not be in 'the big 4' she's prety much the undisputed, undefeated champ?
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Re: PTO European Open [realbdeal]
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Knibb is the big miss for me too for prety much a full house of top women at this distance.
Re: PTO European Open [realbdeal]
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realbdeal wrote:
Jackets wrote:
lassekk wrote:
Changpao wrote:
. . . but I'm way more excited to watch the women's race.https://stats.protriathletes.org/rankings/women
Well given @lassekk's 'big 4' are the Kona WC podium plus the St George WC IM winner, at 100k Gentle has to be favourite, in the absence of Knibb. The latter is racing in Yokohama 8 days after the Ibiza race and targeting the Paris test event, with the aim of AQing for the fiercely competitive USA team: that's her focus. But certainly with Gentle in the 'big 6'.
It'd be great to see Knibb with LCB and Gentle out of the swim and then disappear up the road on the bike, setting up a chase for Gentle and likely Sodaro. Guess we'll have to wait till Lahti.
Unsure whether Matthews will prefer helping test Race Ranger the following day. The PTO race will be only 13 days since Texas and 4/9ths the distance.
EPB and Philipp, on good days, will be in the mix. Stalking them all: a 1:13:00 weapon which the top 10 will be intent to keep 'out of harms way'.
Re: PTO European Open [Engner66]
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He recently revealed in an interview he has been injured (stress reaction in the femur). He was in very good shape before St. George and covid symptoms prevented him from getting back to fitness for the rest of the year. He will now focus on Nice, and I'd be surprised if he races in Ibiza as he is probably not as fit as he would like.
Also Dapena was meant to race WC in Ibiza but a foot injury has left him without running.
PD: Very good interview btw https://www.relevo.com/...230325191246-nt.html
Also Dapena was meant to race WC in Ibiza but a foot injury has left him without running.
PD: Very good interview btw https://www.relevo.com/...230325191246-nt.html
Re: PTO European Open [Xabier10]
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Thanks for sharing, yeah before St. George I "saw" him a few times on Zwift and he was doing some serious indoor training rides ~3h on about 300 W. He was probably building his bike to close the gap to the best riders.
Re: PTO European Open [marcag]
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marcag wrote:
Jackets wrote:
Women's start list is as good as I've ever seen for any race, seems like a lot of the big name men giving this one a miss though.Hopefully Frodeno and Brownlee will get wildcards and we will see all Olympics gold medallists since 2008
Think the wildcards are due to be announced today.
https://stats.protriathletes.org/...en/2023/participants?
MPRO (maybe 5), SOF=91:
Frodeno (confirmed after Blummenfelt called in a favour - https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq-UsrVuU3z/ )
Brownlee
Nieschlag
Brownlee junior? (Edit: VMT @ sidelined - is on Yokohama list)
WPRO (maybe 5), SOF=92:
Simmonds
Visser
Madsen
Oliveira
Buckingham
Lopez not on Yokohama list
https://triathlon.org/...ries_yokohama/544223
Surprised Byram is opting for the 100k: I'd have thought she would be more competitive in the WT LD champs
https://www.triathlon.org/...onships_ibiza/584060
Re: PTO European Open [Ajax Bay]
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https://protriathletes.org/media-releases/ibiza-wildcards-set-up-olympic-charged-duel-in-the-sun/
M: Jan Frodeno, Ali Brownlee, Cam Wurf, Justus Nieschlag
F: Amelia Watkinson, Sif Madsen, Anne Reischmann, Els Visser
M: Jan Frodeno, Ali Brownlee, Cam Wurf, Justus Nieschlag
F: Amelia Watkinson, Sif Madsen, Anne Reischmann, Els Visser
Re: PTO European Open [r0bh]
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https://protriathletes.org/media-releases/ibiza-wildcards-set-up-olympic-charged-duel-in-the-sun/ M: Jan Frodeno, Ali Brownlee, Cam Wurf, Justus Nieschlag
F: Amelia Watkinson, Sif Madsen, Anne Reischmann, Els Visser
Why Wurf? He'll be outrun by 8+ minutes, and no way he can put that much time into anyone.
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Re: PTO European Open [natethomas]
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Re: PTO European Open [natethomas]
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natethomas wrote:
r0bh wrote:
https://protriathletes.org/media-releases/ibiza-wildcards-set-up-olympic-charged-duel-in-the-sun/ M: Jan Frodeno, Ali Brownlee, Cam Wurf, Justus Nieschlag
F: Amelia Watkinson, Sif Madsen, Anne Reischmann, Els Visser
Why Wurf? He'll be outrun by 8+ minutes, and no way he can put that much time into anyone.
It's a show, he'll be entertaining and hopefully light up the bike course. Probably not - but who would you rather get the wild card?
I know...Van Riel, Geens, Bergere, but the olympic pathway is firmly in the way here...so really in LC tri, I can't think of a name that would be a bigger draw to the wild card list.
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Re: PTO European Open [r0bh]
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Oh boy! This will be amazing!
Do we think Jan and alistair can push the swim, drop kristian and work together to keep him at bay?
Who is able to swim with those two on the list? Bakkegaard?
Do we think Jan and alistair can push the swim, drop kristian and work together to keep him at bay?
Who is able to swim with those two on the list? Bakkegaard?
Brownlee jnr is on the Yokohama list