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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Why are Idahoans so excited about killing so many wolves? It puzzles me a lot. Do they eat them?

Wolves kill cows/other livestock. This isn't difficult.

No, it's not right but that's why they do it.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Why are Idahoans so excited about killing so many wolves? It puzzles me a lot. Do they eat them?


Wolves kill cows/other livestock. This isn't difficult.

No, it's not right but that's why they do it.


The data says, "not exactly".
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/...ock-death-180953605/


And there is lots more FWS data indicating the wolf predation on livestock is "negligible".
https://wolfwatcher.org/...ckReport-Feb2019.pdf


I wonder if folks actually kill wolves for primarily emotional reasons?

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
BLeP wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Why are Idahoans so excited about killing so many wolves? It puzzles me a lot. Do they eat them?


Wolves kill cows/other livestock. This isn't difficult.

No, it's not right but that's why they do it.


The data says, "not exactly".
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/...ock-death-180953605/


And there is lots more FWS data indicating the wolf predation on livestock is "negligible".
https://wolfwatcher.org/...ckReport-Feb2019.pdf


I wonder if folks actually kill wolves for primarily emotional reasons?

Fine, they feel that the wolves kill livestock and that’s good enough for them.

I didn’t say they are smart.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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The data says, "not exactly".
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/...ock-death-180953605/

December 12, 2014???? Got anything more recent?

We used to go shoot coyotes out in the pastures in Kansas during calving season. They'd go after the baby calves and sheep.

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be out hiking for 6 weeks on the Buckeye trail so be careful. I'll be wearing a blaze orange vest and have an orange backpack. While part of this being the woods, but mostly because have this trail is hiking country roads and it helps the drivers see me. They are more dangerous than the hikers.
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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Wife wants to sit with me for gun deer for her first time, so we're looking for a weekend to do a little familiarity session at the range and see which rig she feels most comfortable with. In the meantime, even though we've upped the rate at which we're eating thru the freezer stocks of last year's deer and fish, we may only need one deer to top things off. Fairly robust venison donation system in WI and lots of folks finding it harder to make ends meet so we might use a tag or two to help out that way.

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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ironclm wrote:
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The data says, "not exactly".
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/...ock-death-180953605/


December 12, 2014???? Got anything more recent?
I'm sorry, are you saying that the article is out of date, because now we have hundreds of thousands of wolves in the usa?

Nope, they are being decimated at an even higher rate today.

So much for "man's best friend."
Us wonderful humans are clearly 'fair weather' friends at best ...
but usually we are much, much worse ...

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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I've been out several times for early elk archery. Alas, my freezer is still empty.

To those non-hunters here making snarky comments on this thread, properly dressed and butchered wild game is absolutely the best meat one can eat.

Delicious, naturally lean, free-range, grass-fed, hormone-free, antibiotic-free, non-GMO, etc.

And, that wild deer or elk lived a far better life than a feed lot cow, pig, or chicken.


Some good points.

Serious question: you're not concerned about consuming meat from an elk with contagious CWD (chronic wasting disease) ?

CWD has become pretty common in my area. Which is why I stopped hunting. Wife wouldn't let the kids eat the deer meat and I wasn't going to eat a whole deer myself over the course of a year. So I threw in the towel. I wish they had better proof that it isn't able to be transmitted to humans.
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]
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CWD among livestock (or the equivalent for them: BSE) is contagious and has definitely been transmitted to humans. Not sure about deer.

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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I love the whole Fall thing:

Cooler temps and leaves turning

Deer moving. I can sit in a hunting blind in our woods all morning and not shoot a single thing and count it a morning well spent.

Leaves turning in the N GA mountains. Great motorcycling. Great Camping. Great Fly Fishing

New Fall Beer offerings; College Football; Professional Football

That first wood fire of the season in the wood stove!

/r

Steve
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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I am now 56 and have not been hunting since I was in my late teens and used to hunt waterfowl with my late father. Seem to have trouble just getting out to go fishing. Still have my small game license though! Some times my patients bring me meat as I am a GP in a rural area.

good luck.

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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I've got the first week of rifle off; I'll probably head to northern NH (Colebrook). But it'll depend on the weather and what's going on between work and the home.

I hope to beat last year's total time spent in the woods (~17 hours, and a lot of that was Thanksgiving and the day after).

I haven't even checked game cameras (down here or up north), haven't done squat with the food plot. I need to finish up some things and get scouting.
- Jeff
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Gun deer in New Hampshire.

More deer where I live (Massachusetts). But finding a place to hunt can be hard; when you do, it’s tight quarters; and whole state is shotgun only.

I prefer to be able to walk for miles without bumping into people if I want, and/or set up for a long-ish shooting alley with the .308 if that’s what feels right that day. Those elements of the experience make it feel like it did growing up hunting with my dad and brothers, and is more important to me than bringing home a deer at the end of the day.
So nowhere in the southern part of the state. Where abouts you get to up this way? (Not looking for specifics, just curious).
- Jeff
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [jkstevens] [ In reply to ]
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Gun deer in New Hampshire.

More deer where I live (Massachusetts). But finding a place to hunt can be hard; when you do, it’s tight quarters; and whole state is shotgun only.

I prefer to be able to walk for miles without bumping into people if I want, and/or set up for a long-ish shooting alley with the .308 if that’s what feels right that day. Those elements of the experience make it feel like it did growing up hunting with my dad and brothers, and is more important to me than bringing home a deer at the end of the day.
So nowhere in the southern part of the state. Where abouts you get to up this way? (Not looking for specifics, just curious).
- Jeff

Usually White Mountain Natl Forest. Will grab a cheap hotel room in Lincoln area for a few nights, make that home base.
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Lincoln, NH is a nice town. I spent several nights there at the Notch Hostel when hiking the Appalachian trail. There was a lady in town who would drive hikers around so they could hike a few days with a light pack and stay in town.
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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Doing at a lot more by myself as my weekend warrior buddies are out hunting. We are fortunate to adjoin to both WMA land and a large private plot that gets leased out. Deer are the main game and it’s well known for turkey. Like Hawley said, we have some great spots up here, but most of the people I know head down to private land around the GA/AL border due to the overcrowding of public areas. There must have been 200+ cars lining the highway to scope their spots at the start of Sept. Despite the WMA land being a few thousand acres, it has to be a bit hairy out there with so many people. I can’t recall anyone being mistaken for game though.
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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My husband has gone hunting for the weekend. They're hunting deer along the German-Polish border. I dont understand how hunting can be an enjoyable hobby but I keep that to myself. The only thing I really hate is when my father in law has deer antlers mounted and sent to our house. Our basement is full of them now and it's so tacky.
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My husband has gone hunting for the weekend. They're hunting deer along the German-Polish border. I dont understand how hunting can be an enjoyable hobby but I keep that to myself. The only thing I really hate is when my father in law has deer antlers mounted and sent to our house. Our basement is full of them now and it's so tacky.

You need a schloss with a great room to hang the antlers obviously
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [TimeIsUp] [ In reply to ]
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Doing at a lot more by myself as my weekend warrior buddies are out hunting. We are fortunate to adjoin to both WMA land and a large private plot that gets leased out. Deer are the main game and it’s well known for turkey. Like Hawley said, we have some great spots up here, but most of the people I know head down to private land around the GA/AL border due to the overcrowding of public areas. There must have been 200+ cars lining the highway to scope their spots at the start of Sept. Despite the WMA land being a few thousand acres, it has to be a bit hairy out there with so many people. I can’t recall anyone being mistaken for game though.

That sounds great, I normally go for deer the Ga/NC/SC area private land.
Next month will be nice a little cooler and the foliage will start to change.
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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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I have all my tags (elk, moose, whitetail, mule deer, black bear), but haven't had a chance to get out yet. Which isn't really true, because I can literally walk out my back door to hunt. I have had a few too many things on my to-do list after a busy summer to make hunting a priority. Plus, it is still quite warm here, I prefer to wait for it to cool down quite a bit more. Snow also helps bring most of the animals down out of the mountains and closer to my yard.

Elk season here ends Oct 20. Moose doesn't switch from bow-only to rifle until Oct 15. And whitetail are open until Dec 20 here (bow only for all of Dec). I still have lots of time in my season. I might have to invest in a crossbow pretty soon, as my torn rotator cuff is making it difficult to use my bow.

I also have a chance to go to Saskatchewan for whitetail in November. Could be fun, but could also be brutally cold.

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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Doing at a lot more by myself as my weekend warrior buddies are out hunting. We are fortunate to adjoin to both WMA land and a large private plot that gets leased out. Deer are the main game and it’s well known for turkey. Like Hawley said, we have some great spots up here, but most of the people I know head down to private land around the GA/AL border due to the overcrowding of public areas. There must have been 200+ cars lining the highway to scope their spots at the start of Sept. Despite the WMA land being a few thousand acres, it has to be a bit hairy out there with so many people. I can’t recall anyone being mistaken for game though.


That sounds great, I normally go for deer the Ga/NC/SC area private land.
Next month will be nice a little cooler and the foliage will start to change.

That’s right. Aren’t you up in the Hiawassee area? One of my most memorable rides was a night ride doing Bear Creek, Pinhoti 1-3. Between P1 and P2 I could see I was approaching riders in the distance. I didn’t see it was 2 dogs with a mounted lights and 3 guys with rifles until I was right up on them. Didn’t help that I was a bit stoned. I’m never paranoid, but I noped the hell out of there real quick, praying they didn’t shoot me in the back thinking I was going to turn them in for illegal hunting.
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TimeIsUp wrote:
Doing at a lot more by myself as my weekend warrior buddies are out hunting. We are fortunate to adjoin to both WMA land and a large private plot that gets leased out. Deer are the main game and it’s well known for turkey. Like Hawley said, we have some great spots up here, but most of the people I know head down to private land around the GA/AL border due to the overcrowding of public areas. There must have been 200+ cars lining the highway to scope their spots at the start of Sept. Despite the WMA land being a few thousand acres, it has to be a bit hairy out there with so many people. I can’t recall anyone being mistaken for game though.


That sounds great, I normally go for deer the Ga/NC/SC area private land.
Next month will be nice a little cooler and the foliage will start to change.

That’s right. Aren’t you up in the Hiawassee area? One of my most memorable rides was a night ride doing Bear Creek, Pinhoti 1-3. Between P1 and P2 I could see I was approaching riders in the distance. I didn’t see it was 2 dogs with a mounted lights and 3 guys with rifles until I was right up on them. Didn’t help that I was a bit stoned. I’m never paranoid, but I noped the hell out of there real quick, praying they didn’t shoot me in the back thinking I was going to turn them in for illegal hunting.
Illegal hunting is poaching. Poaching is disgusting. Wildlife is difficult enough to manage, wrecks opportunities for the majority who follow the rules.
Most states have easy ways to report these morons, though sadly they seem to usually be part of a "catch and release" merry go round.

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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Same as every year, hoping not to get shot while mountain biking

Same - wearing lots of orange

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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [Constantine] [ In reply to ]
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.. my hunt is over for the season



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Re: Fall/ winter hunting season is here what are you doing? [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Was just up that way this weekend (I have a place in Bethlehem).

Never thought of hunting in the WMNF; that's gotta be some big woods and tough hunting. Presume you have a spot you know pretty well? What have been able to get outta there?
- Jeff
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