What teachers do you know who get 4 weeks leave?! Sign me up for that! And unless you are a PE teacher who cares about their job I think you should stick with what you know and not make generalizations.

It might come as a shock but outside the US in most civilised countries like NZ its the norm to get 4 weeks..minimum. Plus free public health etc...

It might come as a shock but outside the US in most civilised countries like NZ its the norm to get 4 weeks..minimum. Plus free public health etc...

the only difference between him and an actual pro is the fact that he doesn't have a pro card. there is no article and thread about adam feigh (who beat him by 5 minutes) because feigh has a pro card. if feigh raced as an age grouper, there would be an article and thread on him -- instead, nobody knows who he is.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that he doesn't "deserve" his status as a super fast guy. They are questioning whether we should think of him as an age grouper or a pro.

He is an interesting story if he is an age grouper. He is not interesting if he is a pro. Is that an arbitrary distinction? Maybe. But it is one that we make, so it causes discussion.

Teaching isn't really a full time job. Work 9-3:30 and get about 6 months off a year..

Full stop.

Full stop.

Pretty impressive. I think he may be downplaying the "swimming and running were familiar to me" aspect. Good base from the Surf Life Saving background!

This is a shameful and embarrassing opinion to have. It demonstrates a complete and overwhelming amount of ignorance.

For real. Some of the descriptions of teaching on this thread are laughable.

Majority of this thread is embarrassing for ST and sounds more like the juvenile, caustic letsrun forums.

Dude isn’t a pro and has a job, of whatever capacity. Then he’s an amateur and puts in the work.

If he’s living the semi-pro / future pro lifestyle, well, so are many top IM WC caliber athletes.

Frankly the people that seem to be jealous of his performance and lifestyle that work 40 hour weeks - I’m a physician and that’s how I feel about your 40 hr/wk job. It’s all relative.

Maybe we should have AG lifestyle categories instead of Clydesdale/Athena /pink.

the guy won his age group. congratulations
hopefully he can go to kona and do the same
yeah, I would love to train the hours he does
I tried to make it as a pro in the 90's, but realized, I'm not good enough - never have been, never will be
not long ago, i sat watching Kevin moats recover in the lagoon at the Queen K post ironman, and realized...ironman doesn't give a shit about clean or not clean athletes and realized, the ironman adventure is about the individual, not the publicly acknowledged individual.

the question is... why does not the interviewer ask the questions we all want to know:
1. how do you afford this sport?
2. are you in debt due to this sport?
3. do you plan on doing anything to monetize your results?
4. what is your future plan?
5. did you see David Mcnamee's instagram post: heard carlsbad swim pool: "my godson is a semi pro triathlete in that his parents pay him not to have to work"

I remember when Hubert interviewed Noel Mulkely (interesting story) who recently finished 4th after a run implosion at ironman Tulsa, Hubert had no idea what Tik Tok was, but never asked, "do you make a living off of posting til Tok videos? or is that house you live in Tulsa, your parents house? who pays your health insurance premiums, your car insurance, your entry fees, how do you afford your new car, your travel expenses, than new zip disc? Nothing against Mr. Mulkey, but I would like to know how, rather than the surface scratched by Hubert. The interviewer failed to find the truth, but just grazed the surface....Slowtwitch style. unfortunately, every athlete interviewed on slow twitch should be asked if he/she read Cody Beals or Ruth Astle's description of the profit and loss of being a triathlete. As well, every age group champion should be drug tested, and asked, is that ADD necessary, or is it just legal meth amphetamine? Let us be realistic.

Sad reality.... is that those at the front of their age group are generally full time athletes competing as age group athletes.
Slowtwitch abides....

Agree, I have just finished Outlaw 70.3 in the UK after having done it last year, same course, very similar conditions except 2021 had a pro field with the winner coming home in 3:55:14 (Josh Lewis), this year with nothing but age groupers the winner was 3:52:27 😂 even the guy in second beat the pro time

Just as an aside, both Jack Hutchens (1st place) and Finn Arentz (2nd place) earned their pro license from this race.

How is it misleading? He did his first triathlon in 2018. That's what the title says.

How is it misleading? He did his first triathlon in 2018. That's what the title says.

As for doping and cheating - it exists throughout the field in any sport. But without proof why go there?