Idiots

Good news. I am glad we waited a few months for the vaccines to prove themselves effective in the population. Requiring them up to now was simply erring on the side of caution. We have enough data to say that vaccinated people neither get sick nor transmit the virus.

I'll be happy to wear one if asked. I suspect I'll be keeping one in my pocket for the foreseeable future. But I am excited this is coming to an end


(Said as someone who wears one 9+ hours a day since last April, every day working in an office)

Sadly, there will be too many anti-vaxxers who now will just say they are vaccinated. But right now I need a bit of optimism in my life. I am vaccinated (and past the two weeks after the second). I will not be the problem.

I get that a vaccination program is not about individual protection entirely, but a societal protection... but... again as someone who has to wear it 9+ hours a day and have been doing so for the last year... I'm fucking done with it (well, I'll be done with it when the state lifts its mandate and the company says it's ok)...


Also at the moment this state (PA) claims it wont lift the mandate until 70% of eligible people get the vax

Same in Michigan. I have doubts we will ever get there. I'm not sure how this will play out but if numbers continue to improve, I don't know how we could possibly stick to that criteria. Best case is 70% vaccinated is still months away. I just don't think people are going to tolerate masks much longer if there isn't strong evidence of their value.

You sure about that? Seven post-vaccination (J&J) staff members, three of them coaches, of the NY Yankees just tested positive (six asymptomatic). Can we say for sure that they didn't or won't spread it to anyone else?

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I am reasonably sure. I see enough data out there showing that this vaccine works and prevents illness and transmission. I know there will be outlier cases. But really, I am happy to be done with wearing a mask assuming my chance of being a breakthrough case is very small.

I'll be happy to wear one when asked

(also this is totally moot since PA won't be lifting mask mandates any time soon - unless this CDC guidance changes things - so I'll be wearing one until such time)

Science

Human nature will trump science in this case. Masks are done with whether you are vaccinated or not.

I'm just glad I am vaccinated. I'll trust the protection it gives me because otherwise we are fucked.

That said, my attitude is totally FYIGM in nature and I acknowledge that shortcoming

The Yankees case sure caught my attention as well. It's interesting that almost all of them were asymptomatic, and they would have never known if they weren't being tested for MLB Covid protocols. I agree that there is a lot we don't know for sure about vaxxed people being able to spread the virus. From what I've heard, the viral load in a vaccinated person is much lower, so transmission is much less likely.

The great news is that this illustrates how well the vaccines are working in preventing serious illness.

Exactly

Idiots

It’s great they’re are asymptomatic and we know there will be breakthrough cases. I’m just curious about 7 in one building so to speak. How were they exposed? I don’t know how many employees the Yankees have but 7 just seems like a large number. Were they indoors in a tiny room day after day getting exposed.

So who are the idiots?

The CDC/the administration?
Those that refuse to be vaccinated?
Or those that were stupid enough to think that people would act in their and the common best interest and get vaccinated?

Those that have refused to get vaccinated and act like they have will be the greatest impacted. Science is a bitch.
Those are the same idiots that have been crying about their freedom being infringed with wearing a mask. Do you really expect the rest of nation to coddle them because they refuse to believe in science? Fuck 'em I say.

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Suffer Well.

"If you like your mask, you can keep it"----Obama.

Yes


No I expect the fucking CDC to not give a green light to Captain Fuckstick and Prince dingleberry to not have to wear a mask before all the kids vaccinated. I hate masks with an undying passion but another month to 1.5 or so and we'd be fucking golden

Idiots

3 points

Captain Fuckstick and Prince Dingleberry have been the ones fucking this up from the get go. We'd be fucking golden right now if they would have been responsible weeks ago. I'm out of patience for those guys. The vaccine has been readily available for months. Fuck 'em for being anti vaccine and anti science.

Your position is incongruent with your other positions on personal responsibility and consequences, but fully inline with you being anti-everything.

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I gotta say that made me chuckle for some reason.

I admit the pun was intended ;)

PA is following the CDC and alllowing everyone vaccinated to go unmasked as of right now. Suddenly everyone who was antivax I bet is fully vaccinated as of today.

I’m not good with this sudden change. I was banking on a slower rollout

You're missing my point

I can’t wait for the YouTube fist fights over “ show me your COVID vaccination card”.



Will the Walmart greeter be checking COVID cards.


This going to be fun.

That is the plan. Allow them to take the mask off, and more peeps that are on the fence, just might get the vaccine now.

Previously the CDC said they were waiting for the data around just this situation. They wanted see if they could measure if vaccinated people become positive would they transmit at similar, lower or zero rates compared to unvaccinated.

Question for those that have decided to forego the vaccine, will you be following the CDC guideline to continue wearing a mask?