Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match

Sep 14, 20 9:52

Post #1 of 41 (707 views)

Unfortunately it won’t happen but I would pay money to see that.

President Trump on Monday jumped on an offer from mixed martial arts commentator and Spotify podcast host Joe Rogan to moderate a four-hour debate with former Vice President Joe Biden.
“I do,” Trump responded on Twitter to a post from Tim Kennedy, a retired MMA fighter.
“On my podcast with @joerogan he offered to moderate a debate between @JoeBiden and @realDonaldTrump It would be four hours with no live audience. Just the two candidates, cameras, and their vision of how to move this country forward.
Rogan said that to avoid the bias in the media, he’d be happy to moderate a debate between Biden and Trump.
“First of all, I want no one else in the room, just the three of us, and you’d have to stream it live so no one can edit it, and I would want them in there for hours,” Rogan said.
“If they wanted to do that – they both wanted to come here in Austin, sit down and have a debate – I would 100% do it,” he continued.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [Constantine] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:23

Post #2 of 41 (688 views)

Of course Rogan would do it, can you imagine the downloads of that episode??? I know he's on Spotify now but it would be a massively popular episode.

I also LOVE the idea, the long-form interview type podcast that Rogan does is exactly what you need to get some meaningful political conversation and opinions. He's pretty amenable w/ all his guests meaning he's not asking hard-hitting questions, BUT lobbing softballs to both candidates and letting them duke it out is really what you want in a political debate imo.

The most unfortunate thing is the candidates who would be participating, but you take what you can get.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [Constantine] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:37

Post #3 of 41 (665 views)

If they would allow fact checker to Interject and equal time. If Rogan is not a registered D or R And not given to either party in last 6 years or so, 2 hour debate would fine. Also need tax returns as trump has joe’s and likely Hunter’s as his Toadies in govt would lie, steal, cheat to get any info.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [Constantine] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:38

Post #4 of 41 (663 views)

Doesn't Joe Rogan believe the moon landings were fake?

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [Constantine] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:39

Post #5 of 41 (662 views)

I like the idea.

If... Rogan comes prepared and will fact check the shit out of them and not let either one of them BS their way out of obvious BS.

This will be a much bigger problem for one of the candidates.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:42

Post #6 of 41 (655 views)

Brownie28 wrote:

Of course Rogan would do it, can you imagine the downloads of that episode??? I know he's on Spotify now but it would be a massively popular episode.

I also LOVE the idea, the long-form interview type podcast that Rogan does is exactly what you need to get some meaningful political conversation and opinions. He's pretty amenable w/ all his guests meaning he's not asking hard-hitting questions, BUT lobbing softballs to both candidates and letting them duke it out is really what you want in a political debate imo.

The most unfortunate thing is the candidates who would be participating, but you take what you can get.

I've never seen an interview by Rogan where he pushes back on his guest. I could see him just letting Trump spew his stream of shit for the entire time without calling him out or even cutting him off. I personally don't want a president who leads by shouting down any opposing view. We have that now and I'm pretty sure that is what the interview would be. Of course, that is what his cult love about him.

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Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:48

Post #7 of 41 (643 views)

I say this every four years, but the only cast member of News Radio that should host a presidential debate is Phil Hartman.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:48

Post #8 of 41 (642 views)

the Lefties seem perturbed by this idea

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:50

Post #9 of 41 (633 views)

windywave wrote:

the Lefties seem perturbed by this idea

If there was an interviewer who had the ability to cut them off and actually push back and check them on their facts, I'd be all for it but that is not Rogan. Just listen to most of his interviews, he becomes a fan and not an interviewer.

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Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [chaparral] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:51

Post #10 of 41 (633 views)

chaparral wrote:

Doesn't Joe Rogan believe the moon landings were fake?

No

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:53

Post #11 of 41 (624 views)

Brownie28 wrote:

chaparral wrote:

Doesn't Joe Rogan believe the moon landings were fake?

No

When did he discover reality?

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:55

Post #12 of 41 (620 views)

TheRef65 wrote:

I've never seen an interview by Rogan where he pushes back on his guest. I could see him just letting Trump spew his stream of shit for the entire time without calling him out or even cutting him off. I personally don't want a president who leads by shouting down any opposing view. We have that now and I'm pretty sure that is what the interview would be. Of course, that is what his cult love about him.

To me you let the candidates make their arguments, if one of them is habitually lying then let the other candidate counter with a fact-based argument. People need to be smart enough and care enough to look at what is and isn't the truth. Sometimes there's a wide wide gray area and politicians mostly live there, Trump just lives in his own reality. I don't think it's up to the moderator to deal with it, though.

I wouldn't want a President like Trump either. But here we are...regardless, I think a debate on Rogan's podcast would be awesome.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 10:55

Post #13 of 41 (620 views)

TheRef65 wrote:

windywave wrote:

the Lefties seem perturbed by this idea

If there was an interviewer who had the ability to cut them off and actually push back and check them on their facts, I'd be all for it but that is not Rogan. Just listen to most of his interviews, he becomes a fan and not an interviewer.

Let them spew whatever they want. I have always wanted a Lincoln Douglas debate 60 90 30 and the candidates can say whatever they want. Having a moderator or fact checker introduces a variable of a claim of or actual bias. Why can't Biden fact check trump and vice versa?

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:01

Post #14 of 41 (602 views)

windywave wrote:

TheRef65 wrote:

windywave wrote:

the Lefties seem perturbed by this idea

If there was an interviewer who had the ability to cut them off and actually push back and check them on their facts, I'd be all for it but that is not Rogan. Just listen to most of his interviews, he becomes a fan and not an interviewer.

Let them spew whatever they want. I have always wanted a Lincoln Douglas debate 60 90 30 and the candidates can say whatever they want. Having a moderator or fact checker introduces a variable of a claim of or actual bias. Why can't Biden fact check trump and vice versa?

Because I think that most of his followers find Rogan to be believable. Biden can fact check Trump till the cows come home but it won't change anyones opinion. Trump would call him a liar and spew more BS.

Now if Rogan was fact checking both of them... then some peoples opinions might actually change.

Without a perceived independent fact checker, it will be a pointless exercise, IMO.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:04

Post #15 of 41 (598 views)

tyrod1 wrote:

If they would allow fact checker to Interject and equal time. If Rogan is not a registered D or R And not given to either party in last 6 years or so, 2 hour debate would fine. Also need tax returns as trump has joe’s and likely Hunter’s as his Toadies in govt would lie, steal, cheat to get any info.

Rogan has been a vocal supporter of both Sanders and Yang.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [chaparral] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:07

Post #16 of 41 (591 views)

chaparral wrote:

Brownie28 wrote:

chaparral wrote:

Doesn't Joe Rogan believe the moon landings were fake?

No

When did he discover reality?

I don't know, it was years ago though.

What I love about Rogan is he's a truth seeker; he'll have on a wide range of guests with so many different areas of expertise and beliefs and let them say their truth, some of which he ascribes to some of which he doesn't. His opinions on so many subjects has changed over time, because he's talking to many experts with different opinions, and he shapes his own beliefs from that information. He knows he's just a dumb MMA host and says it all the time, but he wants to learn and grow and has on a ton of really interesting guests, some of whom may be full of shit but he gives them a chance to tell their story and the listeners can make up their mind.

He's hosted a few debate-type discussions n the past, I found this one to be fascinating:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI

In a previous interview he had Chris Kresser on and he pretty well tore apart Game Changers. But it was clear when James Wilks was on that Kresser was totally out of his depth.

Rogan isn't going to push back a ton, he's just interested in talking about what his guest is an expert in, or famous for. Let the listeners decide.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [BLeP] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:12

Post #17 of 41 (578 views)

BLeP wrote:

Because I think that most of his followers find Rogan to be believable. Biden can fact check Trump till the cows come home but it won't change anyones opinion. Trump would call him a liar and spew more BS.

Now if Rogan was fact checking both of them... then some peoples opinions might actually change.

Without a perceived independent fact checker, it will be a pointless exercise, IMO.

Listen to this interview/debate and tell me you can't have a hand-off moderator and still have facts rule the discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI

And note that toward the end, as it was obvious that Kresser just didn't have the facts on his side, Rogan hung him out to dry a few times. And he's a huge proponent of animal protein.

Maybe Biden and/or Trump are too dumb or unaccustomed to real debate or wouldn't have a good enough grasp of the facts to counter each others arguments but that goes back to my first post i nthe thread: the unfortunate thing with this idea is the two candidates who would be doing the debate.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:15

Post #18 of 41 (569 views)

Brownie28 wrote:

BLeP wrote:

Because I think that most of his followers find Rogan to be believable. Biden can fact check Trump till the cows come home but it won't change anyones opinion. Trump would call him a liar and spew more BS.

Now if Rogan was fact checking both of them... then some peoples opinions might actually change.

Without a perceived independent fact checker, it will be a pointless exercise, IMO.

Listen to this interview/debate and tell me you can't have a hand-off moderator and still have facts rule the discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0zgNY_kqlI

And note that toward the end, as it was obvious that Kresser just didn't have the facts on his side, Rogan hung him out to dry a few times. And he's a huge proponent of animal protein.

Maybe Biden and/or Trump are too dumb or unaccustomed to real debate or wouldn't have a good enough grasp of the facts to counter each others arguments but that goes back to my first post i nthe thread: the unfortunate thing with this idea is the two candidates who would be doing the debate.

I am not saying that it’s not possible. I am saying that it’s not possible with Trump as one of the two debaters.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:17

Post #19 of 41 (568 views)

Thanks, I will listen to some of his jock interviews and the occasional other. I got drift he was more conservative than that. If he interviewed Yang I’ll check out. Trump has more stamina from lectern. But Joe more decent human, probably not as quick on recall plus Trump doesn’t need facts, he is excellent at unchecked bs. I’d like Joe describe his criteria for cabinet types. Trump of late only requires loyalty. Still waiting on tax returns.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:24

Post #20 of 41 (556 views)

Listening to trump spew bullshit and word salad for four hours sounds more like torture than a debate. It would be worse than useless unless they are fact checked in real time while wearing shock collars hooked into the buzzer.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [chriskal] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:26

Post #21 of 41 (552 views)

chriskal wrote:

Listening to trump spew bullshit and word salad for four hours sounds more like torture than a debate. It would be worse than useless unless they are fact checked in real time while wearing shock collars hooked into the buzzer.

Exactly, if you want to hear trump spew a word salad, there are his rallies and every other time he speaks.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [chriskal] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:31

Post #22 of 41 (537 views)

Why do people feel the need to have a fact checker and a moderator. Have a clock and when it hits zero mic is cut. Candidates fact check each other. Simplicity and purity

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:34

Post #23 of 41 (531 views)

windywave wrote:

Why do people feel the need to have a fact checker and a moderator. Have a clock and when it hits zero mic is cut. Candidates fact check each other. Simplicity and purity

Asked and answered. With two normal human beings, go for it.

With one normal human being and Trump? It's pointless.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:34

Post #24 of 41 (528 views)

tyrod1 wrote:

Thanks, I will listen to some of his jock interviews and the occasional other. I got drift he was more conservative than that. If he interviewed Yang I’ll check out. Trump has more stamina from lectern. But Joe more decent human, probably not as quick on recall plus Trump doesn’t need facts, he is excellent at unchecked bs. I’d like Joe describe his criteria for cabinet types. Trump of late only requires loyalty. Still waiting on tax returns.

Check out #1391 Tulsi Gabbard and Jocko Willink. That is how I would envision something like this going down. I'd be all for it and Joe is an admitted lefty himself. Biden handlers would NEVER allow it. Without the media covering for his obvious........."issues" it will not happen.

Re: Trump /Biden & Joe Rogan 4hr cage match [BLeP] [ In reply to ]

Sep 14, 20 11:37

Post #25 of 41 (524 views)

BLeP wrote:

windywave wrote:

Why do people feel the need to have a fact checker and a moderator. Have a clock and when it hits zero mic is cut. Candidates fact check each other. Simplicity and purity

Asked and answered. With two normal human beings, go for it.

With one normal human being and Trump? It's pointless.

Can you expand on what can only be interpreted as Trump is a superhuman debater? I feel he'd drown in his own lies personally

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