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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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For the life of me (no pun intended), I cannot imagine why anyone would be willing to do a race this fall, especially in a region in which the Covid is rampant, and with no proper testing or contact tracing. Even if one is willing to assume the additional risk of racing at this time, there still is the problem of potentially endangering lives at the race venue, at home, and points in-between. This is the first season since 1979 that I have not raced. I miss racing a lot; I also understand that others have committed a considerable amount of time and expense to prepare for their races. But this, I think, does not outweigh basic concepts of epidemiology and social responsibility.


You cant imagine any reason? I have no issue if you want to skip. I am. And you can certainly argue that is the socially responsible thing to do. But, when I see words like “rampant”, you need to tap the brakes a bit. We should take obviously take it seriously. But, to put it in perspective, there are ~29 million people in Texas and 500,000 (reported) covid cases, so ~ 1.7% of our population has the virus. McClennan county has 4,500 cases and 256,000 people in the county, also about 1.7%. Let’s be factual if we are going to discuss what you are labeling “rampant”.

I'll take a slightly different view. I think the virus is spreading rampant, and we have no contact tracing going on. No one around here gets tested unless they need to go to the hospital. Locally, I'm being told medical staff fills out the tracing questionnaire, but they expect a grad student working on his thesis to be the next to see it. Given two more months of this, and I can easily see a case where this wave has passed, or we are so deep into a wave of cases that cancelling the race wouldn't help anyways. By this same thought, being at the race is probably less risky than any other day to day activity.

I just checked Texas Tech, and they will limit capacity of the stadium to 25%. if Baylor does the same thing, the football game will be bringing almost 12,000 spectators to the game that same weekend. Will the triathlon even more the risk needle there? At some point, it's like yelling about people speeding on the highway, but when you are the only one doing 55 mph, it isn't really helping.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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Not when that number only represents 1.7% of the population in Texas, no. I’m not underestimating this virus. I think we should take it very seriously. But, when 98%+ of the population doesn’t have it, in my opinion, it doesn’t come remotely close to “rampant” .
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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Here is the hospitalization numbers for Texas. Obviously, a surge in cases could change the picture dramatically, but at the moment, the vast majority of the state has tons fo capacity.

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/...459d9cb11b9eaef6101f
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Traket92x] [ In reply to ]
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Found this portion of the state health site that gives you trends by county if anyone is wanting to follow Brazos County/Waco. At the moment, cases are certainly on the uptick. Hospitalizations are still ok at the moment and I'm not seeing the same uptick across all college towns.

dshs.texas.gov
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Traket92x] [ In reply to ]
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A few more weeks of Baylor kids acting like college kids and we all know where this goes.

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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [vanchize] [ In reply to ]
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texas should have a race only 4500 cases of covid yesterday, it is totally under control, a touch under 200 died yesterday but it was no one I know so sure lets race.
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Rumor says Park & Rec said this event is not happening. Not a single big event actually has happened in Texas so far.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [s13tx] [ In reply to ]
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s13tx wrote:
Rumor says Park & Rec said this event is not happening. Not a single big event actually has happened in Texas so far.

Damn, I just swam 2 miles for nuthin.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [BLRoach] [ In reply to ]
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Could be 100% rumor but someone told me today that they heard that the medical emergency staff in Waco who were going to work the event had the race taken off their schedule this week.

I heard this 3rd or 4th hand so no idea if it's true or not.

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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Mark S] [ In reply to ]
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Ironman (not local officials) cancelled Lubbock 3 days before the race. Public health data in Texas, as in many other states, has been lagging, and trends between community and hospitals have been difficult to interpret. Opening of schools and colleges (including Baylor University in Waco) ... combined with the Labor Day weekend and social distance fatigue, make accurate predictions impossible... public health leaders are nervous. Pulling the plug at the last minute appears incompetent and will involve unnecessary expense. Moving forward with one or two of the few Ironman NA events left in 2020 will involve some extra push-back from locals, who don’t want their Big 12 football season cancelled, and the benefit does not appear to justify the risk to an international corporation that has already been very negatively affected by the world-wide pandemic. I hope that the races goes off and you get to race. I’m struggling to maintain my own training while balancing optimism with reality.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Wild Horse] [ In reply to ]
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Ironman (not local officials) cancelled Lubbock 3 days before the race. Public health data in Texas, as in many other states, has been lagging, and trends between community and hospitals have been difficult to interpret. Opening of schools and colleges (including Baylor University in Waco) ... combined with the Labor Day weekend and social distance fatigue, make accurate predictions impossible... public health leaders are nervous. Pulling the plug at the last minute appears incompetent and will involve unnecessary expense. Moving forward with one or two of the few Ironman NA events left in 2020 will involve some extra push-back from locals, who don’t want their Big 12 football season cancelled, and the benefit does not appear to justify the risk to an international corporation that has already been very negatively affected by the world-wide pandemic. I hope that the races goes off and you get to race. I’m struggling to maintain my own training while balancing optimism with reality.

That's right. Texas surpassed Florida confirmed case wise. I've noticed there's some serious spike after Memorial Day and Independence Day weekend. I bet same thing will happen after Labor Day. People I know are getting Covid left and right here in Texas, so I rather be safer than sorry. I've been training hard with no problem. You don't need a race to train. It's a life style. Consider it as doing a laundry or grocery shopping. It will be much easier.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [s13tx] [ In reply to ]
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s13tx wrote:
Wild Horse wrote:
Ironman (not local officials) cancelled Lubbock 3 days before the race. Public health data in Texas, as in many other states, has been lagging, and trends between community and hospitals have been difficult to interpret. Opening of schools and colleges (including Baylor University in Waco) ... combined with the Labor Day weekend and social distance fatigue, make accurate predictions impossible... public health leaders are nervous. Pulling the plug at the last minute appears incompetent and will involve unnecessary expense. Moving forward with one or two of the few Ironman NA events left in 2020 will involve some extra push-back from locals, who don’t want their Big 12 football season cancelled, and the benefit does not appear to justify the risk to an international corporation that has already been very negatively affected by the world-wide pandemic. I hope that the races goes off and you get to race. I’m struggling to maintain my own training while balancing optimism with reality.


That's right. Texas surpassed Florida confirmed case wise. I've noticed there's some serious spike after Memorial Day and Independence Day weekend. I bet same thing will happen after Labor Day. People I know are getting Covid left and right here in Texas, so I rather be safer than sorry. I've been training hard with no problem. You don't need a race to train. It's a life style. Consider it as doing a laundry or grocery shopping. It will be much easier.


Right.....the population of Texas is ~35% bigger than Florida.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Traket92x] [ In reply to ]
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We are now at 6 weeks out. Anyone have any kind of update?
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Traket92x] [ In reply to ]
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Ironman just held three races in Europe this last weekend. So it seems like things get more likely. Also, Baylor is selling games at 20% capacity for McClane Stadium at the moment.

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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [null-and-void] [ In reply to ]
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Texas is rapidly improving, while college towns like Waco are experiencing growing pains as students return. I stopped doing race specific training after peaking for a race cancelled in June. I’m training much more spontaneously now... staying pretty fit and flexible. No PR’s and no injuries in 2020! I won’t eat my entry if the race goes, but no expectations.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [BLRoach] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone been hearing anything positive or negative about this happening October 18th?

I spoke with someone from Outdoor events with the City of Waco this morning 9-9 and they are meeting with Ironman and city officials on Friday 9-11 to discuss the event and other safety protocols that Ironman will take. Was advised to check back early next week on a status. I can provide an update early part of next week once I hear. I really, if cancelled Ironman can provide a quick update before the city can.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [red3] [ In reply to ]
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red3 wrote:
BLRoach wrote:
Anyone been hearing anything positive or negative about this happening October 18th?


I spoke with someone from Outdoor events with the City of Waco this morning 9-9 and they are meeting with Ironman and city officials on Friday 9-11 to discuss the event and other safety protocols that Ironman will take. Was advised to check back early next week on a status. I can provide an update early part of next week once I hear. I really, if cancelled Ironman can provide a quick update before the city can.

Thank you and keep us posted. If it gets canceled, I have to cancel my hotel and plan other things in that weekend asap.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [s13tx] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone else refreshed this post a few dozen times hoping for news to magically appear?

Yeah, me neither.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Jim01] [ In reply to ]
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Bump!! Haha
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [Jim01] [ In reply to ]
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Jim01 wrote:
Anyone else refreshed this post a few dozen times hoping for news to magically appear?

Yeah, me neither.

Was going to bump earlier today, but red3 said "early part of next week", so I was waiting one more day....
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [red3] [ In reply to ]
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Bump - Any news red3?

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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [suparuki] [ In reply to ]
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To provide context. Having used the google machine.

Waco City Council Meetings are the first and third Tuesday of the month. Today is the second city council meeting of the month.

3PM Work Session
6PM Business Session (Allows public comments)

https://www.waco-texas.com/council-meetings.asp#gsc.tab=0

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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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Nothing yet. I have made a few attempts with no success or call back. If I hear anything I will of course update. I did also check the city council website and did a search for any "ironman" in the minutes or agendas and nothing from 2020. I am as antsy as everyone needing to make or change plans! Shame Ironman can't provide an update even when asked.
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Re: Ironman 70.3 - Waco [red3] [ In reply to ]
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TriDot is having a Facebook webinar tonight at 8pm CT to go over the course for IM Texas. Feels like it could be a good sign. Does anyone know if/how they know the swim and run courses?
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