erik+ wrote:
carlosflanders wrote:
Yes, Graphene is essentially graphite.
The big problem with all nano and micron materials is dispersion. The particles tend to clump together. Producers have been claiming to have solved this for more than 15 years.
Don't trust a single thing they say without independent evidence. My lab did tests on multiple sources a few years ago. Quality was horrendous and all claims were blatant lies. If you scraped off the gunk from the inside of your oven you'd have as good quality.
https://bikerumor.com/...hene-wax-chain-lube/ They reference the independent testing in this article.
About that: Adam Kerin of Zero Friction Cycling was one of the parties to the test quoted in that article. On ZFC's Facebook account, Kerin shared that he saw some major issues in the testing data that led him to question the validity of the test. The thing is, he then shared that Absolute Black threatened to sue him unless he took the results down, but that he would follow up later. He seems to now have taken both posts down. And unfortunately, I can't remember the explanation he gave - it was a bit dense, so I figured I'm come back to his page later on, only to find the second message.
Absolute Black
did respond to the issue that Kerin raised in the comments on Cyclingnews, saying:
Quote:
Hi, absolutBLACK here.
The reason we had to ask Adam @ ZFC to remove his “review” despite the test data he presented was good, was based on few reasons. 1 – He breached the NDA (non-disclosure agreement) showing the results from private, early prototype tests of the lube done in 2018 and basing part of his review on this. 2- Part of his comments on other independent tests, that we conducted, were misleading and insinuating things that did not take place. 3- He posted his review 3 days before the official launch of the product knowing when this will happen. Adam @ ZFC did NOT test the lubricant that we are presenting today.
I realize that that response, as well as
this comment alluding to the fact that Kerin posted something, are the only hard proof I have. I hope Kerin clarifies his position one way or another.