I agree about the speed. I did Eagleman VR a little over 59 minutes on 253W (Tacx Neo 2 power) and 3.1 W/kg. That is pretty close to what I would be on a legit outside Olympic if I rode at a similar effort.
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Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [TriRugby]
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Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Gilliga]
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Yeah, some pretty odd results coming in but frankly I didnāt really expect anything less. I see a few non sanctioned trainers in the results... maybe theyāll be taken out? Or people with respectable (but nothing earth shattering) real world race times or seemingly minimal strava history throwing down some very fast times. Maybe they just got better and kudos to them. If not... weāll cool, you cheated on a virtual bike race.
I think you have to be ok with the fact that if someone wants some internet glory that badly whelp... I just feel sorry for them. I had a great day out there, was the fastest 3k time Iāve run since HS or college and was fun to go for it over 40k on the bike. At the end of the day I had fun, built some fitness and tried something new. Iāll take that.
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I think you have to be ok with the fact that if someone wants some internet glory that badly whelp... I just feel sorry for them. I had a great day out there, was the fastest 3k time Iāve run since HS or college and was fun to go for it over 40k on the bike. At the end of the day I had fun, built some fitness and tried something new. Iāll take that.
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Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Torrent]
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On the Rouvy AR app on IPad its simple. On top, click your name to go to user profile, then click edit model. Click the Ironman jersey and it gives you a TT bike. I have no idea if it helps speed in the algorithm but it looks cool!
Also make sure you use the AR app. On the FB Rouvy forum people are saying their comparative speeds are faster than the workout app.
Also make sure you use the AR app. On the FB Rouvy forum people are saying their comparative speeds are faster than the workout app.
Torrent wrote:
How do we pick a TT bike? In my edit rider i only have the option to change my rider jersey:)
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers
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I my buy the finisher swag for the mask. I like the mask.
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Gilliga]
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You can on its, using AR app. That might be the difference in speed your seeing, tt bike to roadie.
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Dont think you can
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [CP78]
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Ok thanks:) Next question is how do i get the ironman jersey option? Only jersey options i have are Starter, Rouvy and Universal.
Doesnāt really matter as Iām not legit anyway, pairing my powermeter and riding the dumb trainer. Might entertain getting a mid range smart trainer if this drags on and they get to the point where theyāre awarding St George slots(and if the Championship results over the summer seem legitimate).
Doesnāt really matter as Iām not legit anyway, pairing my powermeter and riding the dumb trainer. Might entertain getting a mid range smart trainer if this drags on and they get to the point where theyāre awarding St George slots(and if the Championship results over the summer seem legitimate).
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Torrent]
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Are you using the Rouvy AR app? It shows Ironman jersey as 4th option on mine. Maybe update the app? When you change the jersey it changes your bike.
Doesnāt really matter as Iām not legit anyway, pairing my powermeter and riding the dumb trainer. Might entertain getting a mid range smart trainer if this drags on and they get to the point where theyāre awarding St George slots(and if the Championship results over the summer seem legitimate).
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Ok thanks:) Next question is how do i get the ironman jersey option? Only jersey options i have are Starter, Rouvy and Universal. Doesnāt really matter as Iām not legit anyway, pairing my powermeter and riding the dumb trainer. Might entertain getting a mid range smart trainer if this drags on and they get to the point where theyāre awarding St George slots(and if the Championship results over the summer seem legitimate).
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [CP78]
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I deleted then reinstalled the AR app and the only change was my first jersey/status went from Starter to Talented(Iāve done a few rides on Rouvy since first downloading). Maybe Iāll try emailing Rouvy or poke around on their site to see what i need to do to get the IM option. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Torrent]
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I am using the Windows AR version of the pp. I cannot find the settings either. Tried the iOS version, and no joy there either. I at least got the option for the āTalentedā jersey.
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [exxxviii]
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After seeing these comments looked around on laptop, iPad and iPhone install. Only see the three jerseys mentioned and no TT bike.
At least now I have something to blame my poor result on. Lol.
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Taylor Rogers
2024: IM Hamburg
At least now I have something to blame my poor result on. Lol.
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2024: IM Hamburg
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [xcrogers]
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Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Torrent]
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Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [CP78]
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Thanks for the screenshots:) I like the Ventum!
I must not have the option because Iām still milking the free trial. I probably wont pay unless i end up getting a smart trainer. Iām already paying for Zwift
I must not have the option because Iām still milking the free trial. I probably wont pay unless i end up getting a smart trainer. Iām already paying for Zwift
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [CP78]
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Iām also on only Talented, which is entry level, maybe they ran out of jerseys š Son of a gun.. I finished pretty high during the "official" race today and I was losing time to a couple guys that consistently had a lower watts per KG than me, be it flat or on a climb.
Does anyone know if this TT bike actually makes a difference in the race? I hope it doesn't for all those that don't have it.
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Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Ewynn]
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I would just go with a minimum swim qualifying time for the VR events from a past event either a triathlon or swim meet.
Saying a Garmin file is good enough for a pool swim is dangerous and it's so easy to cheat. Swim in a short pool - 20 yards and say it's a 25m pool. I would rather have a QT chart starting at 400m than a free for all virtual swim
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Saying a Garmin file is good enough for a pool swim is dangerous and it's so easy to cheat. Swim in a short pool - 20 yards and say it's a 25m pool. I would rather have a QT chart starting at 400m than a free for all virtual swim
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Canadian Record Holder 35-39M & 40-44M - 200 m Butterfly (LCM)
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [MrRabbit]
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I dont have that option either for Ironman Jersey and TT bike.
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [CP78]
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Weird.... Iām currently in the lowest paid subscription level and donāt see the TT option...
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2024: IM Hamburg
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Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [realAB]
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I would just go with a minimum swim qualifying time for the VR events from a past event either a triathlon or swim meet. Saying a Garmin file is good enough for a pool swim is dangerous and it's so easy to cheat. Swim in a short pool - 20 yards and say it's a 25m pool. I would rather have a QT chart starting at 400m than a free for all virtual swim
The entire virtual race scene is, to some degree a free for all (lots of options to doctor it...you could do the run with a razor scooter, or even in your car and upload the GPS file). But for those who want to do it, its better than nothing. At some point you have to count on the honesty of the bulk of athletes.
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [devashish_paul]
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At least they have asked for hEart rate daya during the run, that take out doing it on a bike or scooter as the HR data would reflect cheating.
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Gilliga]
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I got a reply from rouvy as I felt my times were bit off and below is the reply
Hello,
as we can see, you rode the race on the Rouvy Workouts app.
We are sorry, but it is not possible to compare the ride on Rouvy Workouts and Rouvy AR, that was used by other riders. Rouvy AR has a different algorithm that better corresponds with reality. If you wish to compare your rides, please use the Rouvy AR app.
Thank you for understanding.
Best regards,
R-T.
Hello,
as we can see, you rode the race on the Rouvy Workouts app.
We are sorry, but it is not possible to compare the ride on Rouvy Workouts and Rouvy AR, that was used by other riders. Rouvy AR has a different algorithm that better corresponds with reality. If you wish to compare your rides, please use the Rouvy AR app.
Thank you for understanding.
Best regards,
R-T.
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I was very pleased with my VR10 race... Until I looked at my Garmin profile this morning and noticed that it has a net 23' elevation drop. That totally sucks. I intentionally ran a course that finished on an uphill to all but guarantee a net gain. Based on the course, it seems highly unlikely that I could have had a net drop, but my Garmin 945 begs to differ. I did the Strava correction, and it gives me a +3' gain. I really, really hope that the Ironman VR altitude adjustment takes care of me.
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [exxxviii]
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On my Garmin I had 20ft elevation gain even though I finished at the same spot I started.
On a long ride, I get about 300 ft elevation change between my Garmin cycling and Tri watch, while my buddy gets a very different number.
I donāt think IM will worry too much about small differences.
I enjoyed the IM VR10 also.
Team Zoot So Cal
On a long ride, I get about 300 ft elevation change between my Garmin cycling and Tri watch, while my buddy gets a very different number.
I donāt think IM will worry too much about small differences.
I enjoyed the IM VR10 also.
Team Zoot So Cal
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Gilliga]
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Gilliga wrote:
At least they have asked for hEart rate daya during the run, that take out doing it on a bike or scooter as the HR data would reflect cheating.Haha....ride a trainer in your pickup truck at high heart rate and get your buddy to drive said truck over the route and upload it as a run LOL. Maybe they need step count too and steps per second along with heart rate to see if its in the realm of reality. Steps per second would translate into stride length and you can only cheat that so much!
Re: 70.3 WC slots awarded to virtual racers [Gilliga]
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This is all so frustrating. I can't use the AR app on my desktop because I don't have Bluetooth on it and the AR app doesn't support ANT+ yet. I downloaded and installed the AR app Friday (Jun 5) because the Rouvy Workouts app recommended I do and I don't see an option to ride the TT bike. And I have a basic subscription, so what am I missing?
IM directs you to Rouvy's race rules document (https://cdn.virtualtraining.eu/...al_race_rules_EN.pdf) that states you have to submit a weigh in picture, but doesn't say to where and is ambiguous in wording as to when this has to be done. In the process I was able to drop 10lbs accidentally/surprisingly by having a full length mirror wedged between the wall and the scale, but that's a separate issue. A weigh in *picture* can be doctored in so many ways regardless.
It's all very shoddy.
(fun aside: I missed the instructions to connect Rouvy to my VR account *before* the race and then proceeded to accidentally ride Arizona instead of Eagleman, so all my efforts and frustrations were for naught anyway, sigh)
IM directs you to Rouvy's race rules document (https://cdn.virtualtraining.eu/...al_race_rules_EN.pdf) that states you have to submit a weigh in picture, but doesn't say to where and is ambiguous in wording as to when this has to be done. In the process I was able to drop 10lbs accidentally/surprisingly by having a full length mirror wedged between the wall and the scale, but that's a separate issue. A weigh in *picture* can be doctored in so many ways regardless.
It's all very shoddy.
(fun aside: I missed the instructions to connect Rouvy to my VR account *before* the race and then proceeded to accidentally ride Arizona instead of Eagleman, so all my efforts and frustrations were for naught anyway, sigh)
I pay and have been using Rouvy since before it was called Rouvy. I donāt have that Ironman jersey I donāt even have a talented jersey... emailed support and it was useless and not helpful (which hasnāt been the case over the years) still on road bike but not like I care at all but just could not understand what they were saying on how to get a TT bike!