Because N+1, I'm interested in talking about "all-road" or "road plus" bikes. These are your drop bar bikes that tend towards road geometry more than gravel with shortish chainstays, shorter wheelbases, steeper head tubes, etc. But with clearance for a bit bigger tires. Here are some examples (ETA additional models brought up in the thread):
Allied All Road
Salsa Warroad (700c and 650b)
BMC Roadmachine X
Norco Section
Cervelo C3
Surly Midnight Special (650b): https://www.slowtwitch.com/...ravel_Bike_6957.html
Factor Vista
Argon18 Krypton GF
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These seem like ideal bikes for some Roubaix type Races, Belgian Waffle Ride, and long paved and dirt road exploring. But can you survive these rides on your road bike and/or keep up on your gravel bike?
What other models fall under this category? What else makes these bikes stand out? What makes them great? What makes them terrible? What's the best gearing (1x or 2x)? Anyone love em, or done rides where you wish youhad one? Anyone have one collecting dust?
My personal thoughts: I think I would enjoy one for big days of up and down on paved and gravel roads, being a bit lighter and efficient than the gravel bike but with lower gearing and bigger tires than my road bike. And if I ever did a race that was like a 70/30 split of pavement and dirt, where the gravel bike is overkill but the road bike can beat you up a bit (BWR, etc).
Allied All Road
Salsa Warroad (700c and 650b)
BMC Roadmachine X
Norco Section
Cervelo C3
Surly Midnight Special (650b): https://www.slowtwitch.com/...ravel_Bike_6957.html
Factor Vista
Argon18 Krypton GF
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These seem like ideal bikes for some Roubaix type Races, Belgian Waffle Ride, and long paved and dirt road exploring. But can you survive these rides on your road bike and/or keep up on your gravel bike?
What other models fall under this category? What else makes these bikes stand out? What makes them great? What makes them terrible? What's the best gearing (1x or 2x)? Anyone love em, or done rides where you wish youhad one? Anyone have one collecting dust?
My personal thoughts: I think I would enjoy one for big days of up and down on paved and gravel roads, being a bit lighter and efficient than the gravel bike but with lower gearing and bigger tires than my road bike. And if I ever did a race that was like a 70/30 split of pavement and dirt, where the gravel bike is overkill but the road bike can beat you up a bit (BWR, etc).