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And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight...
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Well, now that money won't be getting to the people who really need it.

https://www.cnn.com/...rus-funds/index.html
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
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He was supposed to be the chair, right? Do we know who the 9 people on that oversight panel are supposed to be? Google did not immediately lead me to an easy answer.

I wonder what Trump didn't like about Fine. From reading on who he is, he seems to have built his reputation on political independence and investigating FBI abuse of surveillance powers. The latter seems like it should ingratiate Trump. Maybe not the former, as he seems unlikely to bend the knee to "loyalty" to Trump.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [trail] [ In reply to ]
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if he's not loyal to trump, trump will not like him.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
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All hail the king.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
I wonder what Trump didn't like about Fine.

I thought I had something, but it was the OTHER Inspector General he fired on Friday for legally protecting a whistleblower I was thinking of.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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scorpio516 wrote:
trail wrote:
I wonder what Trump didn't like about Fine.


I thought I had something, but it was the OTHER Inspector General he fired on Friday for legally protecting a whistleblower I was thinking of.

My guess - based on my trying to burrow into Trump's mind (which is always a dangerous proposition on several levels) - is that after the Ukraine thing there's a new neuron in Trump's brain that's like a giant flashing neon sign: "IG BAD IG BAD IG BAD"
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
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Let the corruption begin!
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [ChiTownJack] [ In reply to ]
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ChiTownJack wrote:
Let the corruption begin!

Begin? Corruption had been part and parcel since the Washington administration
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [mickison] [ In reply to ]
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mickison wrote:
if he's not loyal to trump, trump will not like him.

It's not just a loyalty thing. He would have been an obstacle in Trump's path to the trough.


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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
ChiTownJack wrote:
Let the corruption begin!


Begin? Corruption had been part and parcel since the Washington administration

That's the easy answer that all of you Trump supporters who get all of you information from Fox like to use. You've got to pull your self away from Fox and take a long hard look at what you elected to me most important job in the world.

And while your at it, ask yourself just how comfortable you are with Donald Trump in charge of your 2,000,000,000,000 dollars.

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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
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Welcome to the new swamp, the old one was drained for an even better one, the best!
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]
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He's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need...


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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
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bluemonkeytri wrote:
Well, now that money won't be getting to the people who really need it.

https://www.cnn.com/...rus-funds/index.html

You are right, oversight is critical. Start with the Dems that added $25 million dollars of pork onto the Coronavirus stimulus package for the Kennedy Center only to see all of the employees furloughed.

https://www.foxnews.com/...aking-stimulus-money

From the article:

"The public’s perception is that the Kennedy Center leadership took taxpayer funding and left their employees holding the bag," Rep. Bob Gibbs, R-Ohio, said in a statement. "Congress, and more importantly the public, deserves answers to the questionable decisions made to furlough employees after receiving funding to prevent that.”

Greg

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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting. By my count, that is .00125% of the CARES Act package. Let's wait and see what other pockets get lined with this money now that impartial oversight is gone.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [trail] [ In reply to ]
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I wonder what Trump didn't like about Fine.


He doesn't like it if he's not a yes man but mainly, he just doesn't want any oversight.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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You are right, oversight is critical. Start with the Dems that added $25 million dollars of pork onto the Coronavirus stimulus package for the Kennedy Center only to see all of the employees furloughed.

So do you support the firings or not?
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [bluemonkeytri] [ In reply to ]
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You apparently can't read.

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"The DoD OIG is still part of the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee," spokesperson Dwrena K. Allen told CNN, using the acronym for the defense department and the inspector general position. "Mr. Fine is no longer serving as the Chair because he is no longer serving in an acting IG capacity."
"Glenn Fine reverts to his position as the Principal Deputy Inspector General. He remains focused and committed to the important mission of the DoD OIG," Allen added.


I see the outrage artists of the lavender room continue.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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gregtryin wrote:
bluemonkeytri wrote:
Well, now that money won't be getting to the people who really need it.

https://www.cnn.com/...rus-funds/index.html


You are right, oversight is critical. Start with the Dems that added $25 million dollars of pork onto the Coronavirus stimulus package for the Kennedy Center only to see all of the employees furloughed.

https://www.foxnews.com/...aking-stimulus-money

From the article:

"The public’s perception is that the Kennedy Center leadership took taxpayer funding and left their employees holding the bag," Rep. Bob Gibbs, R-Ohio, said in a statement. "Congress, and more importantly the public, deserves answers to the questionable decisions made to furlough employees after receiving funding to prevent that.”

Greg

Umm, can you show me where the dems added that funding? Because the information that is public is a a staffer for a Republican was pushing for it. That Republican, Roy Blunt, sits on the Kennedy Center board. There is nothing I can find that says Democrats were the ones that put the 25 million in the bill and not Republicans.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
scorpio516 wrote:
trail wrote:
I wonder what Trump didn't like about Fine.


I thought I had something, but it was the OTHER Inspector General he fired on Friday for legally protecting a whistleblower I was thinking of.


My guess - based on my trying to burrow into Trump's mind (which is always a dangerous proposition on several levels) - is that after the Ukraine thing there's a new neuron in Trump's brain that's like a giant flashing neon sign: "IG BAD IG BAD IG BAD"

How long before Christi Grimm is fired?
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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You apparently can't read.

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"The DoD OIG is still part of the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee," spokesperson Dwrena K. Allen told CNN, using the acronym for the defense department and the inspector general position. "Mr. Fine is no longer serving as the Chair because he is no longer serving in an acting IG capacity."
"Glenn Fine reverts to his position as the Principal Deputy Inspector General. He remains focused and committed to the important mission of the DoD OIG," Allen added.



I see the outrage artists of the lavender room continue.




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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
gregtryin wrote:
bluemonkeytri wrote:
Well, now that money won't be getting to the people who really need it.

https://www.cnn.com/...rus-funds/index.html


You are right, oversight is critical. Start with the Dems that added $25 million dollars of pork onto the Coronavirus stimulus package for the Kennedy Center only to see all of the employees furloughed.

https://www.foxnews.com/...aking-stimulus-money

From the article:

"The public’s perception is that the Kennedy Center leadership took taxpayer funding and left their employees holding the bag," Rep. Bob Gibbs, R-Ohio, said in a statement. "Congress, and more importantly the public, deserves answers to the questionable decisions made to furlough employees after receiving funding to prevent that.”

Greg


Umm, can you show me where the dems added that funding? Because the information that is public is a a staffer for a Republican was pushing for it. That Republican, Roy Blunt, sits on the Kennedy Center board. There is nothing I can find that says Democrats were the ones that put the 25 million in the bill and not Republicans.

You need to go back to your link and read it again. It does not say what you attempted to summarize above. From the article:

The government largesse would follow and, with it, scrutiny. The office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who also sits on the Kennedy Center board, declined to comment other than to note that Henke was a former staffer of Sen. Roy Blunt. But the office of the Missouri Republican, who also sits on the board, insisted that it didn’t shepherd any funds across the finish line.
A Blunt aide told RCP that the money “was not a priority.” The senator, the staffer continued, was much more concerned about funding for HHS, and that the office’s understanding was “that the push for more funding came from House Democrats.”
That lawmakers would be cagey about legislative sausage-making isn’t surprising. But Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who didn’t respond to multiple RCP requests for comment, has pointed the finger at Pelosi. McCarthy, who likewise sits on the board of the center, complained that Pelosi never had a good reason for holding up the relief package other than to “add $24 million more dollars for the Kennedy Center in Washington.’
It is unclear, up to this point, who actually introduced the text into the bill that funded the arts center. The initial Senate bill included just $1 million. Informed speculation, shared with RCP, was that Majority Leader Mitch McConnell balked at the bigger dollar amount and eventually the decision got punted to the White House.
How did the bottom line balloon from $1 million to $25 million? A separate senior aide told RCP it had nothing to do with the Grand Old Party: “It is absolutely true that the Pelosi ask was for tons more Kennedy Center money.” What about the Blunt staffer making the rounds on Capitol Hill? “The doula was a hack GOP staffer,” the aide argued. “But this was a Democratic baby all along.”
The money was negotiated in the Senate Appropriations Committee. A spokesman for the ranking Democrat told RCP: “Yes, Senator [Patrick] Leahy did support inclusion of emergency support for the Kennedy Center in the third emergency Coronavirus crisis bill. The Kennedy Center, as you know, has special standing not only as a national cultural resource but also as a national memorial to President Kennedy. The funding that was included will help support essential maintenance and operating functions, but of course it will not be enough to make up for all of the planned events in the center’s immediate future.”

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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
gregtryin wrote:
bluemonkeytri wrote:
Well, now that money won't be getting to the people who really need it.

https://www.cnn.com/...rus-funds/index.html


You are right, oversight is critical. Start with the Dems that added $25 million dollars of pork onto the Coronavirus stimulus package for the Kennedy Center only to see all of the employees furloughed.

https://www.foxnews.com/...aking-stimulus-money

From the article:

"The public’s perception is that the Kennedy Center leadership took taxpayer funding and left their employees holding the bag," Rep. Bob Gibbs, R-Ohio, said in a statement. "Congress, and more importantly the public, deserves answers to the questionable decisions made to furlough employees after receiving funding to prevent that.”

Greg


Umm, can you show me where the dems added that funding? Because the information that is public is a a staffer for a Republican was pushing for it. That Republican, Roy Blunt, sits on the Kennedy Center board. There is nothing I can find that says Democrats were the ones that put the 25 million in the bill and not Republicans.

By the way, if you are going Google Shopping to support your position, you should have linked the article below. It is full of quotes by Trump trying to smooth over criticism of the Kennedy Center funding for the good of the bill and his acceptance of a compromise. I dunno', maybe he was displaying....leadership?

https://thehill.com/...nding-in-coronavirus

Your welcome,
Greg

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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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gregtryin wrote:
chaparral wrote:
gregtryin wrote:
bluemonkeytri wrote:
Well, now that money won't be getting to the people who really need it.

https://www.cnn.com/...rus-funds/index.html


You are right, oversight is critical. Start with the Dems that added $25 million dollars of pork onto the Coronavirus stimulus package for the Kennedy Center only to see all of the employees furloughed.

https://www.foxnews.com/...aking-stimulus-money

From the article:

"The public’s perception is that the Kennedy Center leadership took taxpayer funding and left their employees holding the bag," Rep. Bob Gibbs, R-Ohio, said in a statement. "Congress, and more importantly the public, deserves answers to the questionable decisions made to furlough employees after receiving funding to prevent that.”

Greg


Umm, can you show me where the dems added that funding? Because the information that is public is a a staffer for a Republican was pushing for it. That Republican, Roy Blunt, sits on the Kennedy Center board. There is nothing I can find that says Democrats were the ones that put the 25 million in the bill and not Republicans.


You need to go back to your link and read it again. It does not say what you attempted to summarize above. From the article:

The government largesse would follow and, with it, scrutiny. The office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who also sits on the Kennedy Center board, declined to comment other than to note that Henke was a former staffer of Sen. Roy Blunt. But the office of the Missouri Republican, who also sits on the board, insisted that it didn’t shepherd any funds across the finish line.
A Blunt aide told RCP that the money “was not a priority.” The senator, the staffer continued, was much more concerned about funding for HHS, and that the office’s understanding was “that the push for more funding came from House Democrats.”
That lawmakers would be cagey about legislative sausage-making isn’t surprising. But Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who didn’t respond to multiple RCP requests for comment, has pointed the finger at Pelosi. McCarthy, who likewise sits on the board of the center, complained that Pelosi never had a good reason for holding up the relief package other than to “add $24 million more dollars for the Kennedy Center in Washington.’
It is unclear, up to this point, who actually introduced the text into the bill that funded the arts center. The initial Senate bill included just $1 million. Informed speculation, shared with RCP, was that Majority Leader Mitch McConnell balked at the bigger dollar amount and eventually the decision got punted to the White House.
How did the bottom line balloon from $1 million to $25 million? A separate senior aide told RCP it had nothing to do with the Grand Old Party: “It is absolutely true that the Pelosi ask was for tons more Kennedy Center money.” What about the Blunt staffer making the rounds on Capitol Hill? “The doula was a hack GOP staffer,” the aide argued. “But this was a Democratic baby all along.”
The money was negotiated in the Senate Appropriations Committee. A spokesman for the ranking Democrat told RCP: “Yes, Senator [Patrick] Leahy did support inclusion of emergency support for the Kennedy Center in the third emergency Coronavirus crisis bill. The Kennedy Center, as you know, has special standing not only as a national cultural resource but also as a national memorial to President Kennedy. The funding that was included will help support essential maintenance and operating functions, but of course it will not be enough to make up for all of the planned events in the center’s immediate future.”

Can you provide any evidence that Democrats put in the 25 million, you were the one that said they did. Do you have any evidence?

Everything I said was true in the article.
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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You're shooting for the Whataboutism Platinum Card (tm) something! Fine form, today.

But at least you said "You are right, oversight is critical." so you're kinda agreeing that Trump is wrong here?
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Re: And BOOM goes the dynamite, I mean oversight... [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
gregtryin wrote:
chaparral wrote:
gregtryin wrote:
bluemonkeytri wrote:
Well, now that money won't be getting to the people who really need it.

https://www.cnn.com/...rus-funds/index.html


You are right, oversight is critical. Start with the Dems that added $25 million dollars of pork onto the Coronavirus stimulus package for the Kennedy Center only to see all of the employees furloughed.

https://www.foxnews.com/...aking-stimulus-money

From the article:

"The public’s perception is that the Kennedy Center leadership took taxpayer funding and left their employees holding the bag," Rep. Bob Gibbs, R-Ohio, said in a statement. "Congress, and more importantly the public, deserves answers to the questionable decisions made to furlough employees after receiving funding to prevent that.”

Greg


Umm, can you show me where the dems added that funding? Because the information that is public is a a staffer for a Republican was pushing for it. That Republican, Roy Blunt, sits on the Kennedy Center board. There is nothing I can find that says Democrats were the ones that put the 25 million in the bill and not Republicans.



You need to go back to your link and read it again. It does not say what you attempted to summarize above. From the article:

The government largesse would follow and, with it, scrutiny. The office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who also sits on the Kennedy Center board, declined to comment other than to note that Henke was a former staffer of Sen. Roy Blunt. But the office of the Missouri Republican, who also sits on the board, insisted that it didn’t shepherd any funds across the finish line.
A Blunt aide told RCP that the money “was not a priority.” The senator, the staffer continued, was much more concerned about funding for HHS, and that the office’s understanding was “that the push for more funding came from House Democrats.”
That lawmakers would be cagey about legislative sausage-making isn’t surprising. But Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who didn’t respond to multiple RCP requests for comment, has pointed the finger at Pelosi. McCarthy, who likewise sits on the board of the center, complained that Pelosi never had a good reason for holding up the relief package other than to “add $24 million more dollars for the Kennedy Center in Washington.’
It is unclear, up to this point, who actually introduced the text into the bill that funded the arts center. The initial Senate bill included just $1 million. Informed speculation, shared with RCP, was that Majority Leader Mitch McConnell balked at the bigger dollar amount and eventually the decision got punted to the White House.
How did the bottom line balloon from $1 million to $25 million? A separate senior aide told RCP it had nothing to do with the Grand Old Party: “It is absolutely true that the Pelosi ask was for tons more Kennedy Center money.” What about the Blunt staffer making the rounds on Capitol Hill? “The doula was a hack GOP staffer,” the aide argued. “But this was a Democratic baby all along.”
The money was negotiated in the Senate Appropriations Committee. A spokesman for the ranking Democrat told RCP: “Yes, Senator [Patrick] Leahy did support inclusion of emergency support for the Kennedy Center in the third emergency Coronavirus crisis bill. The Kennedy Center, as you know, has special standing not only as a national cultural resource but also as a national memorial to President Kennedy. The funding that was included will help support essential maintenance and operating functions, but of course it will not be enough to make up for all of the planned events in the center’s immediate future.”


Can you provide any evidence that Democrats put in the 25 million, you were the one that said they did. Do you have any evidence?

Everything I said was true in the article.

Look, my friend. Just give it up. What do you want, a deposit slip? Your responses are what bluemonkeytri would attribute to an 'automaton'. Try reading this part below one more time. This isn't even disputed, not sure why you are still beating this drum.

How did the bottom line balloon from $1 million to $25 million? A separate senior aide told RCP it had nothing to do with the Grand Old Party: “It is absolutely true that the Pelosi ask was for tons more Kennedy Center money.” What about the Blunt staffer making the rounds on Capitol Hill? “The doula was a hack GOP staffer,” the aide argued. “But this was a Democratic baby all along.”

If you are a Canuck that engages in gratuitous bashing of the US, you are probably on my Iggy List. So, save your self a bunch of typing a response unless you also feel the need to gratuitously bash me. If so, have fun.
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