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WAKE UP FOLKS!!
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Bernie is a Russian operative!! Investigate!!
We need a Special counsel !
Wake up!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...fa7482a77_story.html
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Why isn't trump responding in the same way Bernie is?

That is one of multiple differences in the situation.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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I'm guessing Trump is planning to fire whomever told him that, too.

Holding my breath in 3...2...

The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
Why isn't trump responding in the same way Bernie is?

That is one of multiple differences in the situation.

Do you think Dirt honestly cares how different they are?
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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It's sad it has come to this but the only thing you can do is to trust no one. Don't trust anything you see posted online, don't trust any media sources, reporters, journalists, facebook, twitter, or anything else unless you have personal knowledge of the source.

This is probably what Russian leaders want is to sow such distrust people don't know what to believe and it's mainly working unfortunately.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think I can possibly imagine two more unfit candidates for President than the two that Russia is helping. That's an even worse prospect than our choices in 2016.

It's almost as though Russia doesn't have our best interest in mind and wants to divide this great nation.

The weird thing is that the guy who is a Socialist/Communist is the only one who is telling Putin to stay out of our elections. And the Make America Great guy loves the help, but is pissed that someone told the Dems he's getting it.

Suffer Well.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
Why isn't trump responding in the same way Bernie is?

That is one of multiple differences in the situation.
It wouldn’t matter how Trump responds. Trumps actions against Russia are way tougher than the previous administration.
The spin in the media will always be against him.
I’m curious to see how they will report this about Bernie.
It seems outside of the huff po, no body wants him as president.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Dirt fighter wrote:
It wouldn’t matter how Trump responds. Trumps actions against Russia are way tougher than the previous administration.

That's irrelevant, even if true.

It's not OK to undermine the U.S. intelligence system for political purposes, as long as it's replaced by a personality-based substitute. That's not how the U.S. is supposed to do things. We have a President who is regulating Congress' access to intelligence briefings. That's also not how our system of government was designed.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Dirt fighter wrote:
It wouldn’t matter how Trump responds. Trumps actions against Russia are way tougher than the previous administration

Both of those statements are false.

The way trump responds is of great importance. The senate report, written about Republicans, details this.

His actions are not tougher. Some are, but the vast majority are not. Trump has greatly weaken our alliances which is the number one goal of Russia.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Dirt fighter wrote:
Bernie is a Russian operative!! Investigate!!
We need a Special counsel !
Wake up!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...fa7482a77_story.html


Bernie is a commie so why is this news?

"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Dirt fighter wrote:
Bernie is a Russian operative!! Investigate!!
We need a Special counsel !
Wake up!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...fa7482a77_story.html

Except that is not at all what that article says. But you knew that. And lied anyway.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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So, let’s see. Trump is a Russian agent. Russia is attempting to push Bernie to victory against Trump; ergo, Trump is working to put Bernie in the WH.

Fun times.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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JD21 wrote:
So, let’s see. Trump is a Russian agent. Russia is attempting to push Bernie to victory against Trump; ergo, Trump is working to put Bernie in the WH.

Fun times.

You have it backwards. Russia wants Bernie to win the primary, but trump to win the general.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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j p o wrote:
Dirt fighter wrote:
Bernie is a Russian operative!! Investigate!!
We need a Special counsel !
Wake up!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...fa7482a77_story.html

Except that is not at all what that article says. But you knew that. And lied anyway.
No shit Sherlock. My response was the typical left wing outrage at every bullshit story about Russia collusion.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Dirt fighter wrote:

No shit Sherlock. My response was the typical left wing outrage at every bullshit story about Russia collusion.


Except you got it wrong. This instance wasn't left wing outrage. This was Trump outrage. His appointee made a mundane briefing to the House Intelligence Committee. A briefing with no really new information (Russia continuing to do what we thought they'd do). And Trump did an all-caps meltdown, fired his own guy, and manufactured an issue out of it. When he could have just laughed it off. Or said nothing at all.

There is *no one* more irrationally fixated on Russia than Trump himself. It's like a brain worm with him. He just can't let it go. Like crowd sizes at his inaugeration, or DNC emails. Things we'd have all forgotten if Trump didn't constantly bring them up.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Trumps actions against Russia are way tougher than the previous administration.


Can you give an example?
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Sanuk wrote:
Trumps actions against Russia are way tougher than the previous administration.


Can you give an example?

Oh no, don't. Greenplease might come in and Greensplain it all again.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Just imagine the good press trump would have gotten by working with the FBI when Russians contacted him to offer help. That would have been a a huge PR boon for trump and a talking point he could constantly use. But he did not. He did not do that, because he wanted Russia's help.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Sanuk wrote:
Trumps actions against Russia are way tougher than the previous administration.


Can you give an example?
You get one. He armed Ukraine to defend themselves against Russia instead of completely betraying them like the previous administration did. Now stop being lazy and research for yourself.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
Dirt fighter wrote:

No shit Sherlock. My response was the typical left wing outrage at every bullshit story about Russia collusion.


Except you got it wrong. This instance wasn't left wing outrage. This was Trump outrage. His appointee made a mundane briefing to the House Intelligence Committee. A briefing with no really new information (Russia continuing to do what we thought they'd do). And Trump did an all-caps meltdown, fired his own guy, and manufactured an issue out of it. When he could have just laughed it off. Or said nothing at all.

There is *no one* more irrationally fixated on Russia than Trump himself. It's like a brain worm with him. He just can't let it go. Like crowd sizes at his inaugeration, or DNC emails. Things we'd have all forgotten if Trump didn't constantly bring them up.
Good on him. Trump did the right thing to fire that guy. He knows how obsessed the house intel committee is on trying to oust him.
Your last sentence couldn’t possibly be more wrong.
Unless you forgot the pink font.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
JD21 wrote:
So, let’s see. Trump is a Russian agent. Russia is attempting to push Bernie to victory against Trump; ergo, Trump is working to put Bernie in the WH.

Fun times.


You have it backwards. Russia wants Bernie to win the primary, but trump to win the general.

That's my take as well. The Russians want Trump to win. The best way to do that is get him an opponent that can't possibly carry the Midwest.

I fear this will be a repeat of 2016 where reasonable votes have no one to vote for.

"...the street finds its own uses for things"
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Good on him. Trump did the right thing to fire that guy. He knows how obsessed the house intel committee is on trying to oust him.
Your last sentence couldn’t possibly be more wrong.
Unless you forgot the pink font.

So the DNI should have not followed his duty? Trump just doesn’t like the facts (that Russia is already meddling in the 2020 elections).

You make yourself look rather foolish in threads like these.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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Dirt fighter wrote:
Good on him. Trump did the right thing to fire that guy. He knows how obsessed the house intel committee is on trying to oust him.
Your last sentence couldn’t possibly be more wrong.
Unless you forgot the pink font.

It's not great to be obsessed with horse race celebrity at the cost of all else. On both sides. The side we should be on is Joe Maguire's. Both of us. Go look at his history. He was just serving his country, independently of politics. Doing his fucking job.
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Re: WAKE UP FOLKS!! [Dirt fighter] [ In reply to ]
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He armed Ukraine to defend themselves against Russia


You think that is evidence that Trump is tough on Russia? You're kidding right?

First, Trump pushed the Ukraine President to investigate Biden by withholding $391 million in military aid in the middle of their fight with Russia. That's being tough on Russia?

Second, if he's so tough on Russia, why is the separatist war in eastern Ukraine continuing, why is the Crimean Peninsula still in Russian hands etc. It sounds to me like Trump is using tough words but not doing anything.

Trump has continually threatened to weaken U.S support to Ukraine and call on Europeans to provide more support. Trump said that his decision to delay military aid was not because of getting dirt on Biden (another lie) but because he wanted Europe to pay for the military aid. So he even admitted he doesn't want to provide aid, which Russia sees as a green light to stay in Crimea. They know Trump doesn't even want to provide aid.

And you think that is evidence that Trump is standing up to Russia? Wow, just Wow.
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