I enjoy The Sufferfest app. The videos are quite tongue-in-cheek, and can be cheesy in some parts, but the workouts are challenging. I believe you can get a 7-day free trial.

---

"I drank what?!?!" - Socrates
Poor Swimmer. Weak Cyclist. Slow Runner.
TriDot Ambassador / Sacramento Triathlon Club

https://www.xertonline.com/

Hey there Ted. David from The Sufferfest here. If you're looking for some seriously immersive and motivating workouts, then have a look at us. (Here's a little example: ). We have a 14-day free trial, that includes access to all of our cycling, yoga for cyclists, strength training for cyclists and mental toughness workouts as well as all of our training plans. Check us out at http://www.thesufferfest.com.

---

David McQuillen
Founder & CEO of The Sufferfest

I use Zwift for my own riding, especially over the NZ winter. I like it for my coaching, as I can design sessions in both Today's Plan and TrainingPeaks that riders can easily download. I have used the plans and sessions for a bit of variety and it's quite a cool way to do intervals especially if the session has lots of stops and starts, or over/unders etc. I have lots of friends that use the plans and they say they are making good progress.

---

Hamish Ferguson: Cycling Coach

The Zwift plans are ok, they are very vanilla. If you want something more suited to a personalized plan TR (which I used for a year and was quite good) or Sufferfest will be better. If you like an individualized adaptive program and don't need the video stimulus use Xert. You can improve on pretty much any training program if you are consistent but if you want more bang for the buck do Xert or Sufferfest. Just my two cents.

---

"see the world as it is not as you want it to be"

TrainerRoad + one of the following should give you all the stimulus you need:

1. Netflix
2. Amazon Prime Video
3. NBC Gold cycling
4. FloBikes

---

Matthew
Twitter: @AlphaDogCycling
Instagram: @AlphaDogCycling

Ray (DC) Maker should have his trainer app post out "soon."

there are some days that netflix / prime video doesnt suit the type of workout at all for me. the are def good for Z1 easy stuff.

for a while i was manually building TR workouts inside of Zwift when i was using the TR plans. I've since shifted to a monthly paid coaching service (80/20 endurance) that uploads all of my workouts in training peaks, and training peaks syncs up with Zwift... my workout is sitting there waiting for me when i log into zwift for that day. works out really well.

---

80/20 Endurance Ambassador

WKO5 and PerfPro mainly because I prefer pay once apps and they both serve me well. I already have plenty of ongoing never ending subscriptions in other things.

shorter/higher intensity Sufferfest is super engaging and gets the job done really well.
longer/easier stuff just control the trainer with the Garmin and binge watch netflix/hulu/amazon/etc.

Just my $0.02:

TR has great plans
Sufferfest has great plans *and* the immersive video/music is great *but* it can get repetitive when you do the same workout several times. Also, everyone has different taste in music so Sufferfest is very much a YMMV type of proposition in this regard IMO.

You might be aware, but if not you can quickly import workouts from Training Peaks into Zwift. This opens the door to a lot of different training plans from different sources. It's pretty easy to do, even from your phone and the TP app.

Then the workout shows up in Zwift with whatever device you normally run it from, pretty much like their native ones do.

Still looking for a Zwift replacement. Not interested in social aspect just looking for virtual courses with realistic gradients and good UI. Looking at Kinomap, BigringVR, and Rouvy, and user information would be appreciated.

Anynews on apple TV sufferfest? I used the app last year on a PC and enjoyed it

Check out onelap, it's good but be aware it's in Chinese and only partially translated.

Free though.

We've got a rough beta of it going and our design team is working on finishing designs for it, but current development focus is (finally) getting Android SUF app finished. Having said that, if you have a Mac or any iOS device you can screen mirror to your AppleTV. Not as good as having an AppleTV app, of course, but works a treat.

---

David McQuillen
Founder & CEO of The Sufferfest