What's the goal here?

Splitting it into 3 rides a day sounds awful to me. I'd split into 2 at the most. Also, I'd mix in some longer days and some shorter days. That training plan looks like a ton of inefficient volume

I did around 560 miles one week and then did 585 miles the next week. It was actually pretty easy and I averaged over 22 miles per hour.

Why do you want to break it up into three segments each day?

Is there a reason that you are doing a distance goal, instead of a time based goal?

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The goal is high mileage, mainly 800mi total over 8 days. I'm ok going 90 one day and 110 the next, etc.

If I was on a roll and went 50/50, I'd be ok with that.

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Three segments are manageable to me. I can more or less do 2 bottles for a distance like that in Gatorade. I have to stop and refill or something when I get to the 30s if I want to keep going.

I'm ok doing 2 segments some days, I'm interested in overall high mileage, just a tentative plan to start 3/days. I could fit a time in at maybe 6am-7:30am, then noon - 1:30 and then probably sunset or evening one final session.

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I just really want to go cruising speed rather than possibly burnout. But, if I start knocking out the sessions at 22mph, that's cool. Also, this is the Rapha Festive 500 dates, where people around the world ride 500km or more and the crazy ones see how high they can get the mileage in 8 days. For all I know I could be dead at the end, riding 19mph, but logistically that starts to complicate things as I don't want to spend that much time on the sessions.

https://www.cyclist.co.uk/...lenge-this-christmas

There were 98,224 participants last year and I did 962km in 8 days to get 226th place and hoping to get top 50 this year... just to slay away the miles with everyone else participating.

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But why is the goal high mileage? Are you training for something or just for shits and giggles?

Frankly, the plan looks like a really bad idea without more context

I'm trying to bulletproof my legs and do something challenging to push my volume to the limit. Kind of adding layers to my base. Its going to be my max cycling volume week of the year.

Goal for next year is to get a Utah 70.3 WC slot. My next planned race is Augusta 70.3 in September. I want to do really well at the 2021 WC if I get a slot though and am trying to max out as much as I can.

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I used to refill my bottles at a gas station and do 4 to 5.5 hour rides every day. Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches were the fuel.

Is that not an option?

Sure its an option. I might be able to knock out 2 centuries back to back, but my seat really doesn't feel great after hitting 400-500mi, so maybe the centuries could be earlier in the week.

I love PB and J + Whole Milk

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Maybe a different saddle?

Nah, I have an ISM seat - its pretty comfortable. Its just when I hit 400 or 500mi in a week that it starts to become uncomfortable. Maybe I could just do a lower mileage but reasonably heavy week this week. I'm not sure. But, 800mi sounds very alluring to me. It would be challenging for me.

I guess its dumb just to shoot for a number without regard for anything else. I could feel like death at 600mi.

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You are still thinking like a short course triathlete with all those 3x a day rides.

Ultra cyclists/triathletes who want to increase their mileage would be doing 500 miles or more between end of work Friday and end of the weekend Sunday..

Very strange approach. You want a week of base building, think more like this:

Day 1 1.5-2 hours Z2 with 2 x 15mins Z4 with 8mins recovery included
Day 2 3.5-4 hours Z2
Day 3 1-1.5 recovery
Day 4 2 hours Z2 with 4mins Z4, 3mins 110-120% FTP, 5mins Z2 x 4 included
Day 5 3.5-4 hours Z2
Day 6 1-1.5 hours recovery
Day 7 2 hours Z2 with 2 x 20mins Z4, 10mins recovery included.

Your plan isn't too much volume, just lacking structure. Polarisation is key, otherwise you just get better at going the same speed.

This. I’ve put down 800 in 8 no problem. Just ride 80-120 per day. Saddle should not be a problem. If it is, then you need a different saddle. Splitting up the rides into 2-3 in a day sounds awful. Unless it is just a pit stop?

Personally, I prefer peanut butter and honey sandwiches.

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Ok thanks ! :)

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Ok - good to know. I definitely want to build a base and get faster / this looks smart.

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Did you feel or start getting faster?

I did 900mi over two weeks at 21.1mph last month, (then 70.3 / 56mi result at 22.6mph) and then a couple weeks ago on the track I was holding 24mph for 50mi.

I seem to be holding 23 a lot easier now in training after my last race.

I spend a lot of time on R&R on high mileage weeks to feel good most of the time - I did feel like it as was easy at the end of the 900mi. I had hardly any fatigue.

The goal is 24.0mph on the cycle in Augusta 70.3 next year; I want the beginning of the build to take place. I feel I’m nearly there right now though.

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I think I should have clarified that my goal average speed per session is 21mph over the 800mi. Some sessions may be 20, others up to 23-24, but at times the commute to ride is only at 15-20mph if I ride through the city. Or if I do repeats on one course the U turn slows me down to 21.X average with a medium effort. But, overall seeking 800mi in 8 days. I could be running at 22mph avg the first 5 days or something, I don't know. It depends a lot on the weather and how warm vs aero my clothing will be, but I think I can pull 21mph average in a non-aero jacket or something in the winter.

I think it would be hard to just start at 21 and avg 21 and always be 21. I didn't mean to convey that. The avg might be 21, but I could be holding 23mph or something for the heart of the sessions.

Thinking about it though, 20 minutes at Z4 would have to be on a mountain for me. I don't use zones that much. If my Max HR is 205, Z4 would be roughly 179-198 right? Its really hard for me to bike in that zone. I only spend a couple minutes there in hard sessions. I have to run to normally get in that zone.

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Negative. Z4 should be a effort that you can sustain for 30-90 minutes, more of less....eg, upper-tempo to threshold pace. What you are describing sounds more like v02 max pace if you can only hold it for a few minutes. My bike Z4 top end is 88% of my MaxHR.

So, if you are similar your Z4max would be 179-180.

hmmm yeah I’m really bad at the zones

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That doesn’t sound as ambitious as running a 24 hour buffet at a triathlon theme park.

haha ok cool good to know

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