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Surprisingly, no major disagreement here....not sure what the issue is. My point has been one of our presidential candidates wants to allow criminals, including the worst of the worst, to maintain these voting rights behind bars. ....to remain part of society.
I think you're looking at this incorrectly. It's not that he wants criminals to maintain voting rights. It's that he wants to protect the right of all citizens to vote, and is willing to accept that this includes felons as well.
Similarly, pro-choice advocates don't necessarily want women to have abortions. They want women to have control over their bodies, and are willing to accept that abortions are a cost of that freedom.
I don't necessarily want Alex Jones to spew his bullshit, but I value freedom of speech and I'm willing to accept that includes assholes too.
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This right to vote should be taken away from anyone who has proven by their behavior that they are a danger to society and need to be removed.
Quite a large number of felons don't pose any significant danger to society. I'd also be interested in understanding how continued voting poses any continued danger to society for those felons who were dangerous. If you want to argue that losing voting rights is simply punishment; that I can understand. But just because a guy shoots and kills a convenience store owner (for example), that doesn't mean his vote constitutes any continuing danger to society.
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Why should they maintain the right to help determine how society operates when our laws and society have determined they should be put away so not to endanger society ever again.....in the case of Cruz, Roof, Tsarnaev, and others.
Relatively few felons are "put away so not to endanger society ever again." Most serve relatively short sentences and then are back out in society. Are you arguing that felons shouldn't be allowed to vote, or just that people sentenced to death and/or life in prison with no parole shouldn't be allowed to vote, or some other middle ground?
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Bernie appears to be on his own on this one.......even the other Dem candidates don't agree.
Well, two U.S. States have no restriction on felon voting rights, so he's not entirely alone.
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