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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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My regular pool has a similar rule, but I’ve gone off the blocks during lane swim before. The trick for me has been to ask the “right” lifeguard beforehand and get permission. Go to the pool enough and you learn who to ask and who not to.

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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
My regular pool has a similar rule, but I’ve gone off the blocks during lane swim before. The trick for me has been to ask the “right” lifeguard beforehand and get permission. Go to the pool enough and you learn who to ask and who not to.

I used to do the same, then I found out through a third party that one of the guards who let me use the blocks got reprimanded for not enforcing the policy. I save starts for Masters team practice, now.

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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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You're just not attractive enough. I was diving next to an aqua aerobics class once, and the next thing I knew I had like 30 80 year-old women stop and watch me while the instructor sang along to the music that was on - "It's Raining Men." It was really cute.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [ripple] [ In reply to ]
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It seems the members were more distracted and in awe rather than annoyed. I think the instructor was irritated that it took the attention off her class. Her tone and tact completely caught me off guard. She was kind of mother henning me. I would have preferred she approach me face to face, rather than go out of her way behind my back. If she was a true authority on the matter, she would have approached me at the time of incident.

I have a good friend that pays the U.S. Masters Swimming annual fee so he can compete in meets. He doesn’t swim with the club. He’ll be in a difficult position, if something similar happens to him.

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It sounds to me like she just doesn't want to hear her class members complain to her about your diving in the future. Probably nothing more nothing less, and to be fair to her, you even say there are "no diving" signs plastered all over the joint. So one could probably infer that the management aren't too keen on diving in the pool. I don't know. Just a guess.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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I’ll have to find a work around. Obviously no dives during aqua aerobics. Since it’s not guarded, I shouldn’t have any issue at the right time and circumstance.

JasoninHalifax wrote:
My regular pool has a similar rule, but I’ve gone off the blocks during lane swim before. The trick for me has been to ask the “right” lifeguard beforehand and get permission. Go to the pool enough and you learn who to ask and who not to.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Or the instructor at your pool isn’t a nosy old hag? Lmao.

trail wrote:
You're just not attractive enough. I was diving next to an aqua aerobics class once, and the next thing I knew I had like 30 80 year-old women stop and watch me while the instructor sang along to the music that was on - "It's Raining Men." It was really cute.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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“In awe”?

Oh my
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]
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Water Aerobics instructors are the worst.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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You broke a pool rule and when caught, were politely asked to follow it. What’s your issue exactly??
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]
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These people are very old and not particularly athletic. It doesn’t take much. Believe me.

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“In awe”?

Oh my
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Perhaps if there was an issue management would approach me face to face, not some random aquacise instructor that I don’t know going behind my back to management and then personally handling it by cyberstalking my FB profile. But I’m glad she took the liberty to go out of her way to tell me what to do rather than management. Lol.

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You broke a pool rule and when caught, were politely asked to follow it. What’s your issue exactly??
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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DFW_Tri wrote:
You broke a pool rule and when caught, were politely asked to follow it. What’s your issue exactly??

He’s awesome?
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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You don’t think a paid employee has the ability to enforce pool rules?? Or to discuss a situation with management without your knowledge or participation? Are you a part of the workforce?

As for the method of delivery, it is a little bizarre...I’m not even on FB so that wouldn’t work for me but I have little down if you use FB, then I think even you can recognize it’s widely used for all sorts of arguably inappropriate communications. The communication here was not nearly as over-the-top as you are making it out to be. You came here looking for support and you may receive some. But you are also going to receive a reality check that not everyone agrees that you are right here.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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mwanner13 wrote:
It seems the members were more distracted and in awe rather than annoyed. I think the instructor was irritated that it took the attention off her class. Her tone and tact completely caught me off guard. She was kind of mother henning me. I would have preferred she approach me face to face, rather than go out of her way behind my back. If she was a true authority on the matter, she would have approached me at the time of incident.

How would this face to face meeting happen? She was in the middle of a class, so, if she didn't interrupt her class for a potential confrontation, it wasn't going to happen then. That leaves her summoning you to the pool or stalking the pool till she sees you again.

Sounds like she politely relayed a request in a non-confrontational matter.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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I'm with the group that thinks you were in the wrong and that this was handled relatively well.

Do you think that you are so special that the rules shouldn't apply? Because that is kind of how you are coming across....... "how dare they enforce the rules on me? I'm a masters swimmer (and a triathlete too, look at my laminated triathlon.com swim workout)!"

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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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The indoor pool is 24 hours with no lifeguard........The deep end is 6 feet and the shallow end is 4 feet,

Damn dude you were going off the blocks in only 4ft of water? Going into 4ft is just plain stupid/dangerous (although I believe that is the current minimal rec although I thought it was 6ft 7in).

20 min sitting under the lifeguard chair for you the next time you roll to the pool!

IMO 6ft though safer is still pretty damn shallow for going off the blocks. From the side yes, from the blocks IDK, you do you, I'd personally pass and just go from the side.

6ft is marginal for safety for an adult off the blocks imo.

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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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desert dude wrote:
mwanner13 wrote:
The indoor pool is 24 hours with no lifeguard........The deep end is 6 feet and the shallow end is 4 feet,

Damn dude you were going off the blocks in only 4ft of water? Going into 4ft is just plain stupid/dangerous (although I believe that is the current minimal rec although I thought it was 6ft 7in).

20 min sitting under the lifeguard chair for you the next time you roll to the pool!

IMO 6ft though safer is still pretty damn shallow for going off the blocks. The side yes the blocks IDK, you do you but I'd personally pass.

6ft is marginal for safety for an adult off the blocks imo.

I’ve swum in older pools that had blocks set up in about 4ft deep water, although that was a long time ago and I’m not sure if they are still set up with the blocks in the shallow end.

It was always a little sketchy when starting in those pools.

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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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I’m going off in 6 feet. Lol. During the State HS Meet it’s used as a warm down pool. I’ve swam in there and had high school kids dive into 4 feet over my head, while we were resting on the wall. Kind of freaked me out. Just diving in 4 feet is very shallow.

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mwanner13 wrote:
The indoor pool is 24 hours with no lifeguard........The deep end is 6 feet and the shallow end is 4 feet,

Damn dude you were going off the blocks in only 4ft of water? Going into 4ft is just plain stupid/dangerous (although I believe that is the current minimal rec although I thought it was 6ft 7in).

20 min sitting under the lifeguard chair for you the next time you roll to the pool!

IMO 6ft though safer is still pretty damn shallow for going off the blocks. From the side yes, from the blocks IDK, you do you, I'd personally pass and just go from the side.

6ft is marginal for safety for an adult off the blocks imo.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [wannabefaster] [ In reply to ]
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I'm with the group that thinks you were in the wrong and that this was handled relatively well.

Do you think that you are so special that the rules shouldn't apply? Because that is kind of how you are coming across....... "how dare they enforce the rules on me? I'm a masters swimmer (and a triathlete too, look at my laminated triathlon.com swim workout)!"

Gotta say I’m in this group as well.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Sean H wrote:
wannabefaster wrote:
I'm with the group that thinks you were in the wrong and that this was handled relatively well.


Do you think that you are so special that the rules shouldn't apply? Because that is kind of how you are coming across....... "how dare they enforce the rules on me? I'm a masters swimmer (and a triathlete too, look at my laminated triathlon.com swim workout)!"


Gotta say I’m in this group as well.


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You broke the rules and you lost me at " It is painted “No Diving” all over the pool deck. I guess it doesn’t apply to everyone but me apparently?"

So you knew you were breaking the rules, too.

How she approached it was odd, but it might be seen as a gentler response vs. approaching you in person the next time you're there.

You can always post in the "cry like a biatch thread" instead
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [Durhamskier] [ In reply to ]
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So then why are diving blocks installed on both the indoor and outdoor pools? I suppose only for the use of the premium paying swim team members? That’s the only difference I see. One member pays more and gets more rights of use.

In addition, other members and non-members utilize them for diving, but apparently I’m the one that can’t now? I signed a waiver. I can think of much riskier ventures such as crossing the street. Spare me the damn rules, when the rules don’t make sense.

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Sean H wrote:
wannabefaster wrote:
I'm with the group that thinks you were in the wrong and that this was handled relatively well.


Do you think that you are so special that the rules shouldn't apply? Because that is kind of how you are coming across....... "how dare they enforce the rules on me? I'm a masters swimmer (and a triathlete too, look at my laminated triathlon.com swim workout)!"


Gotta say I’m in this group as well.


+1

You broke the rules and you lost me at " It is painted “No Diving” all over the pool deck. I guess it doesn’t apply to everyone but me apparently?"

So you knew you were breaking the rules, too.

How she approached it was odd, but it might be seen as a gentler response vs. approaching you in person the next time you're there.

You can always post in the "cry like a biatch thread" instead
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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mwanner13 wrote:
So then why are diving blocks installed on both the indoor and outdoor pools? I suppose only for the use of the premium paying swim team members? That’s the only difference I see. One member pays more and gets more rights of use.

In addition, other members and non-members utilize them for diving, but apparently I’m the one that can’t now? I signed a waiver. I can think of much riskier ventures such as crossing the street. Spare me the damn rules, when the rules don’t make sense.

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Sean H wrote:
wannabefaster wrote:
I'm with the group that thinks you were in the wrong and that this was handled relatively well.


Do you think that you are so special that the rules shouldn't apply? Because that is kind of how you are coming across....... "how dare they enforce the rules on me? I'm a masters swimmer (and a triathlete too, look at my laminated triathlon.com swim workout)!"


Gotta say I’m in this group as well.


+1

You broke the rules and you lost me at " It is painted “No Diving” all over the pool deck. I guess it doesn’t apply to everyone but me apparently?"

So you knew you were breaking the rules, too.

How she approached it was odd, but it might be seen as a gentler response vs. approaching you in person the next time you're there.

You can always post in the "cry like a biatch thread" instead

Swim team has coaches watching, so does masters. My pool has the same rules. It is a liability issue, and just because someone else is breaking the rules doesn't mean you should. Two wrongs and all that.

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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
The trick for me has been to ask the “right” lifeguard beforehand and get permission. Go to the pool enough and you learn who to ask and who not to.

This..

We often get squad kids come in during the day in summer holidays outside of squad hours, I’m happy to let them practice if they ask.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [rsmoylan] [ In reply to ]
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This is the most sensible and direct no non-sense response.

I guess if I’m not doing any meets I can just forego any portions of workouts calling for dives, so as to stay in line with club rules and etiquette.

I still think it wasn’t proper protocol for her to be the person to contact me and also the means of communication. Either way, I’ll get over it.

rsmoylan wrote:
mwanner13 wrote:
So then why are diving blocks installed on both the indoor and outdoor pools? I suppose only for the use of the premium paying swim team members? That’s the only difference I see. One member pays more and gets more rights of use.

In addition, other members and non-members utilize them for diving, but apparently I’m the one that can’t now? I signed a waiver. I can think of much riskier ventures such as crossing the street. Spare me the damn rules, when the rules don’t make sense.

Durhamskier wrote:
Sean H wrote:
wannabefaster wrote:
I'm with the group that thinks you were in the wrong and that this was handled relatively well.


Do you think that you are so special that the rules shouldn't apply? Because that is kind of how you are coming across....... "how dare they enforce the rules on me? I'm a masters swimmer (and a triathlete too, look at my laminated triathlon.com swim workout)!"


Gotta say I’m in this group as well.


+1

You broke the rules and you lost me at " It is painted “No Diving” all over the pool deck. I guess it doesn’t apply to everyone but me apparently?"

So you knew you were breaking the rules, too.

How she approached it was odd, but it might be seen as a gentler response vs. approaching you in person the next time you're there.

You can always post in the "cry like a biatch thread" instead

Swim team has coaches watching, so does masters. My pool has the same rules. It is a liability issue, and just because someone else is breaking the rules doesn't mean you should. Two wrongs and all that.
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Re: Reprimanded by aqua aerobics instructor [mwanner13] [ In reply to ]
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You really can’t comprehend how/why there may be a general no diving rule but an exception may be made for supervised, fee-paying, advanced swimmers??? This really comes down to you being upset that an exception wasn’t made for you. You aren’t being singled out. You just aren’t getting the special treatment/exception you feel you deserve. Too bad.
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