I am a slow swimmer. Using my sleeveless wetsuit this weekend as my last race my sleeved seemed to wear out my arms. Long term am I giving up much speed using a sleeveless vs sleeved. If it goes well this weekend unless it makes a big difference I will use sleeveless and just get over being a cold water wimp. thanks
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Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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Sleeved is faster
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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A good friend of mine regularly wipes the floor with the rest of the field on the swim, and she only owns a sleeveless suit.
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [surroundhound]
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thanks for the replies. I need every advantage I can get with the swim but I think I will stick with sleeveless for now. thanks again
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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marath8 wrote:
thanks for the replies. I need every advantage I can get with the swim but I think I will stick with sleeveless for now. thanks againDo more research
Sleeves ARE faster
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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marath8 wrote:
I am a slow swimmer. Using my sleeveless wetsuit this weekend as my last race my sleeved seemed to wear out my arms. Long term am I giving up much speed using a sleeveless vs sleeved. If it goes well this weekend unless it makes a big difference I will use sleeveless and just get over being a cold water wimp. thanksI typically finish the swim about top 20% range, so not a speedster but not a BOP slowster anymore.
Theoretically, the added small lift and hydrodynamics from the sleeved suit SHOULD be faster, but for someone like myself that pretty much never does OWS until race day (I used to practice it regularly, but time/access is now a major limiter), I definitely swim faster with a sleeveless.
In fact, I swim even faster with NO wetsuit at all (yep, compared even to sleeveless or sleeved wetsuits - I own both), but it's mainly because since I haven't practiced swimming hard (or at all) with my wetsuits, I just can't push into the red zone like I can without a wetsuit.
The sleeved in particular, gives me mild arm extension fatigue as you describe that does limit me a little - if I train like 5-6x in OWS before the race, it totally goes away and I'd almost certainly be faster with the sleeved wetsuit, but as I said, that's just a luxury of time I don't have. I'm sure my suit fits right and is pulled up enough as well. I suspect this is what you're feeling as well.
My happy medium is going sleeveless whenever I can. Even if I swim 20-40 seconds slower per mile than I do without a wetsuit, I spend so much less energy (especially sighting) due to the buoyancy that it's worth it for me. I now only go sleeved in very cold water races (like March ocean races, yikes!)
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [RBR]
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https://www.slowtwitch.com/...ed_De_Soto_6779.html
As the article says
You are always faster in a wetsuit with sleeves except perhaps 1.5% of the population
It is NOT correct that Sleeves are just generally faster. The exception would be a very advanced Div 1 type college swimmer because they have such a refined stroke.” I've never found the D1 swimmer to be an exception to the "sleeves are faster” rule. Another Slowtwitcher decided it was the opposite: That the slowest swimmers would benefit from the sleeveless, because their technique isn't good enough to see the value of a full sleeve suit.
Nope. I never found that either. Further, no ITU athlete, male or female, feels that way. And I mean none of them or, if I'm wrong about that, you'll have to look very hard to find the exception to the rule. (I have a lot of swim start pics I can show you!)
As the article says
You are always faster in a wetsuit with sleeves except perhaps 1.5% of the population
It is NOT correct that Sleeves are just generally faster. The exception would be a very advanced Div 1 type college swimmer because they have such a refined stroke.” I've never found the D1 swimmer to be an exception to the "sleeves are faster” rule. Another Slowtwitcher decided it was the opposite: That the slowest swimmers would benefit from the sleeveless, because their technique isn't good enough to see the value of a full sleeve suit.
Nope. I never found that either. Further, no ITU athlete, male or female, feels that way. And I mean none of them or, if I'm wrong about that, you'll have to look very hard to find the exception to the rule. (I have a lot of swim start pics I can show you!)
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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IIRC- sleeved suits are faster because of the additional buoyancy coupled with a greater surface area on your forearm (bigger forearm surface area allows for more water to be pulled, therefore, more propulsion).
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Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [marath8]
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if your arms are getting worn out from the suit there are a few things
1. the suit isn't the right suit for you
2. It's the right suit but in a wrong size
3. you didn't put it on correctly - and this happens waaaaaaaaaay more often than people think. It's also waaaaaaaaay more prevalent as you go further back in swimming ability
For about 98.5% of all people sleeved suits are faster. What are the odds you're in that 1.5%?
Brian Stover USAT LII
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1. the suit isn't the right suit for you
2. It's the right suit but in a wrong size
3. you didn't put it on correctly - and this happens waaaaaaaaaay more often than people think. It's also waaaaaaaaay more prevalent as you go further back in swimming ability
For about 98.5% of all people sleeved suits are faster. What are the odds you're in that 1.5%?
Brian Stover USAT LII
Accelerate3 Coaching
Insta
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [desert dude]
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Would you mind if I added?
4. You have a cheap inflexible POS full suit that may or may not be the right size
4. You have a cheap inflexible POS full suit that may or may not be the right size
Re: speed difference between full sleeved and sleeveless wetsuit. [desert dude]
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desert dude wrote:
if your arms are getting worn out from the suit there are a few things 1. the suit isn't the right suit for you
2. It's the right suit but in a wrong size
3. you didn't put it on correctly - and this happens waaaaaaaaaay more often than people think. It's also waaaaaaaaay more prevalent as you go further back in swimming ability
For about 98.5% of all people sleeved suits are faster. What are the odds you're in that 1.5%?
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