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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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I'll play!

Background: 56 YO male. 13 years in triathlon, lifelong athlete. 137 tris to date. 34 long course with 12 IMs. In 2013, I raced 11 times. Won my AG 7 times and finished 2nd twice. Top 3 OA on the bike 4 times. Qualified for 3rd Kona at IMLT. (Full disclosure: I did it via the XC route.

My "secrets":

1. The first law of triathlon: "The Conservation of Motivation". This is my prime objective. If I don't feel like doing a workout or I just want to do junk miles that day then that's what I do. If I feel like hammering it because I feel good, then I do that. If I'm entered in a race and life throws me a curve ball I skip it. If I decide to do a race the night before because I wanna race someone, I'll do it even though I did a hard brick that day....

In the long run, and at my age that's where we are at, it's about making sure that you don't burn out and that you really enjoy training and racing. I don't do as many intervals as I should but I really look forward to training and racing....and I don't seem to really get injured really badly any more...

2. The first law of life: "Maximize Happiness". Triathlon is just a part of life. If it creates negative energy (with a spouse for instance, or because you feel you're denying yourself of something that makes you happy) then you need to change something. Guys who have relationship problems with the love of their life because they need to train are violating this law.

3. Do the best you can given theses laws and your limitations and then give yourself a break with the results. If you do your best, you have achieved excellence.

4. Embrace competition and the competitors. I love to race. I know I wouldn't train as much as I do if I didn't like to go fast. When I'm in a race, it's all out for me...I want to go as fast as I can and crush my competitors. However, before and after I help them in any way I can and enjoy my time with them. Without competitors there is no competition. Triathlon should be a social activity where you connect with fellow souls.

5. My body is a furnace, not a temple. I like red wine, IPAs, chocolate and french fries. If I have some fat on me and I'm slower sobeit. It's worth the trade off...especially in light of points one and two above!

6. I like to ride my bike more than swim or run so I do more of that. I do way more bike than what a good coach would say is right. I'm ok with that. Posting the fastest OA bike split out of 300 folks never gets old...even if I'm slower at the finish line.

7. I like to do other things with my fitness. I've done RAAM. I'm now getting ready to climb in Argentina. Triathlon is my true love but I do enjoy my other flings!

8. I decided 15 years ago to make less money so I could have more free time to do this endurance stuff. I recognize that I'm lucky that I can make that choice, but it's a choice that lots of folks in my situation don't make. As a result, I can follow my first two laws and still train long enough and hard enough to do pretty good at this stuff...one of the best decisions I ever made!

Randy Christofferson(http://www.rcmioga.blogspot.com

Insert Doubt. Erase Hope. Crush Dreams.
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Re: What's Your Secret? [rcmioga] [ In reply to ]
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Another great post: how to live the Tri life in a nutshell!

How do you all deal with the various nicks and dings from training?
Anyone have any particular intervals that are indispensable?

Dr Jay
http://www.Tri-Pod.net
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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3rd / 4th ez week? how ez? How much do you reduce the load on the ez week? And how many cycles of 3/4 wk ez before you take an extended ez break? three cycles of 3 weeks provides a 9 wk period before extended ez break Vs 4 cycles of 4 weeks - 16 weeks before an extended break - What is your experience? 3 week cycles seem to work best for me - so I'm thinking after the 4th 3 week cylce I should be thinking about maybe two weeks back to back ez? I know when the time comes I'll be trying to talk myself into another normal three week cycle without the additional ez time.

thanks for adding your experience and perspective,

Dan
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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58, tris since '81, Ironman since '82.
Balance in your life is key. So many people burn out on doing 3 sports and a job and a family.
Train consistently. Less real "speed" work, to easy to get long term injuries. Fast for me just means faster than normal or near current 10k pace.
Foam roller, ball, some core work, but not a lot of stretching.
A day off once every week or two helps.
I love to eat. So staying close to a race weight is my biggest struggle and my biggest limiter. 10 pounds is huge in performance.

Team Zoot So Cal
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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Re: What's Your Secret? [cb8s] [ In reply to ]
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I am not old enough or fast enough to be of much authority.
It occurs to that most over-use injuries are really under preparation injuries (or they are accidents). People's will power and passion often age with the body. This kind of aging is voluntary, however.
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Re: What's Your Secret? [dirtymangos] [ In reply to ]
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Under preparation is a factor, but I think that wrong decisions account for many injuries. You've made a decision to do something that you shouldn't be doing that day. Either because you haven't recovered from a previous workout, or you make a decision on the fly without proper focus.
As in my last yoga class. I wasn't focusing so I did one or two things I shouldn't have. Weeks later my knee and shoulder are still complaining.

Dr Jay
http://www.Tri-Pod.net
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Re: What's Your Secret? [travisml] [ In reply to ]
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Trav,
I hope to keep up with him too. Ben is my idol and nemesis.
Don't be fooled, he's FAS,FAS! My fortune, good or bad is that he's in my age group
which is great training motivation.
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Re: What's Your Secret? [rcmioga] [ In reply to ]
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Randy, excellent post! You got it right (IMO).

- paul
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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Lots of good information already shared here, but I'll chime in. I'm 55, been in multi-sport 15 years after coming from a background in hockey. I do all distances but my 'A' races the past few years have been iron distance (have done 8 IM's).

1. Consistency in training. In particular, I find that it really helps if I maintain my running year round. I do, however, reduce my volume and frequency for 2 to 3 months in the off-season - basically running 3 times/week with most runs being 4 to 6 milers. But I've found if I let my running slide it makes it hard to come back. Key is to at least run consistently even if they are super easy runs.

2. Keep your body weight in check. I usually fail in this regard during my down time and pay the price in trying to shed too many excess pounds when I ramp up my training. But I enjoy good food and wine. But I have noticed my friends who are older than me and still good at training and racing keep their weight in check.

3. Do more hard interval work on the bike trainer (and less hard interval run training). Most of us have fairly large bases after years of training. I've found I get my best bang for the buck by doing quality bike workouts, high intensity stuff. Embrace the indoor trainer. I love to ride outside but given time constraints, weather and crazy drivers, I've had success doing more indoor biking.

4. Keep a balance in your life. Multi-sport is cool and it's great to get oneself into great physical shape. But at the end of the day us age-groupers are not professionals - most have family, work and other responsibilities. I'm competitive and enjoy racing. But I do the best I can do given my genetics, time I've been able to train and other family and work commitments. I enjoy training and racing. Success is doing the best I can on that day.

5. Train with men and women who are faster than you. You get pushed and it pays off come race day. I ride with some local "roadies" and it's a "use, use" relationship. They like having more people in their group rides. I like riding fast (relatively speaking). I may ride by myself for an hour, then ride with the roadies for 60 - 90 minutes of hard riding, then drop off and ride on my own for 30 - 60 minutes.

6. Listen to your body, take time off when you feel you need to, error on the conservative side. I'm not a slave to my training plan. Junk miles are junk. You have a big base, you aren't going to lose it overnight.

7. If I'm injured, I generally don't train. I might swim more or do some more yoga and/or core work.

8. Help and encourage others in the sport, especially kids.
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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My attitude alternates between regular/maintainence exercise and pre-race training. My life(style) for ~15 years now is to exercise in multiport 7-9 hours weekly . Shorter single sport events and occational sprint tris I'll add without preplanning.

For Longer races and tris I'll shift to what I view as true training, 3 to 7 weeks or so with specific harder stuff geared to the event. Hills if expected , mtn. bike if off road, longer bike/runs for IM for examples.

Recovery if needed after longer races then back to "regular".

No big buildups which are risky for injury/overtraining, in older athletes, no OFF seasons of deconditioning followed by glacier speed return to fitness.

I like to keep a level of fitness continually, thereby allways ready to jump into most anything, anytime. This approach allows freedom of capability to try whatever comes along. To respect the distance or event or conditions with a base of solid fitness and adequate pre-race specifics to Get-er-done.

Works for me.
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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Consistent execution over an extended time in the four important areas of life - Family, Physical, Professional, Spiritual

David
* Ironman for Life! (Blog) * IM Everyday Hero Video * Daggett Shuler Law *
Disclaimer: I have personal and professional relationships with many athletes, vendors, and organizations in the triathlon world.
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Re: What's Your Secret? [david] [ In reply to ]
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Great thoughts on balance, time off, race prep, etc.

Dr Jay
http://www.Tri-Pod.net
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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I am 57, and next year will be my 30th season of triathlon. On a local/regional level I have had some success (16/18 multisport podiums this past season) and I feel much of it is because of two things as I have aged:

---A LOT of time in the pool, not so much to improve a race split, but to maintain a very strong aerobic base that can be tapped into when racing. I will have swam over 700,000 meters this year, most of it between 5 and 6 am and most of it very easy. This has replaced a lot of the running miles I used to do.
---An off season regimen of short duration but intense circuit training, using a Lifecycle, rowing machine and treadmill together with the pool. This keeps me in touch with race pace, but for only about 30 minutes total per session.

I let my weight creep up for about 6 weeks this time of year and then go back to a diet consisting mainly of salad and chicken breast the rest of the year, with the occasional cookie tossed in now and again. No pop or alcohol at all.

I'll also almost always buy something new---wetsuit, swimskin, etc., every season to keep the gear/fun ratio going!
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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Dr. Jay!

1. Keeping the bod and brain fresh is key. When your brain is fresh, you don't do stupid things. It is important to to identify when too much is around the corner.

2. First key secret is to pick your training partners and play ground wisely. If you enjoy the people and environment, you are then in for the long haul.

3. Pick your coach wisely.

4. Sleep and eat wisely.

5. Don't over races and over train....see #1.

I am 45 and still enjoying all of this after 34 years. I am also a coach.....inquire within!
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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I would inquire with David Boutier.....He owns a Fleet Feet in Rochester NY and posts here. As a matter of fact, I would invest some consulting dollars with him and take it further than a forum discussion. Do not try to reinvent the wheel!
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Re: What's Your Secret? [paulthomas] [ In reply to ]
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So some don't do any speed work until a couple months before a race. Others do some all year, i.e., 30 minutes.
Several people count more on swimming and biking for basic fitness due to the 'wearing' nature of running.

Dr Jay
http://www.Tri-Pod.net
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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Well, after hurting my knee in yoga (I swear, yoga is a contact sport), I had an injection of Euflexxa, a hyaluronidase. We'll see how it works after a series of 3 injections.
One thing I learned is that the quads lose strength at an accelerated rate, more so than other muscles. This is due to some type of reflex reaction.

Dr Jay
http://www.Tri-Pod.net
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Re: What's Your Secret? [aikiman44] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not as old as you, but I'm 35 and have Cystic Fibrosis - thanks for your fundraising efforts all those years ago!! The research has come a long way, and I'm still here in large part because of it. My secret, because lets be honest, 35 with CF is kind of like 55+... 1) Never stop. 2) Hills 3) Never stop. I set goals that require adherence to my medical regiment. Biking and running (and some swimming) is my break from all that, and what makes the unpleasant parts tolerable.

Fighting Cystic Fibrosis with Carbon Fiber, and killing it.
http://featherandwedge.tinmountain.org/...ation-13-chris-kvam/
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Re: What's Your Secret? [cdale613] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for your great post.
I have to say that I, also, am doing more and more hill running. Less speed, more elevation. This certainly leads to less injuries for 'older' runners.

Dr Jay
http://www.Tri-Pod.net
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