I know this has been done to death.
I looked up positions here http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/bikes/karma.shtml for reference as well as several articles but still have some problems.
The first photo shows me on a 52CM S22 Felt frame, the second on a 50CM.
The question(s) I have are two fold. The position is similar on both frames. The major differences my "untrained" eye see are I have a slightly arched back on the 50CM frame and the drop from saddle to aero pads is significantly larger on the 50CM.
As far as feel I coudl definately tell a difference on "cockpit" length from the 50 to 52, feeling a bit "tight" in the 50 but a bit stretched in the 52. The seat was all the way forward in the 52 and about midway on the 50.
I'm thinking I would be better off with the 50, move the seat back and up bit to stretch me out a bit an possibly lower the front a bit more. I felt considerably more "open" on both frames than my current road with aero setup.
Again as others have said it's difficult to tell without taking a bike for several rides, which really isn't an option.
Any help would be appreciated...and apologies for beating a dead horse...yes I know go to a proffesional fitter and or learn it myself.
~Matt
I looked up positions here http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/bikes/karma.shtml for reference as well as several articles but still have some problems.
The first photo shows me on a 52CM S22 Felt frame, the second on a 50CM.
The question(s) I have are two fold. The position is similar on both frames. The major differences my "untrained" eye see are I have a slightly arched back on the 50CM frame and the drop from saddle to aero pads is significantly larger on the 50CM.
As far as feel I coudl definately tell a difference on "cockpit" length from the 50 to 52, feeling a bit "tight" in the 50 but a bit stretched in the 52. The seat was all the way forward in the 52 and about midway on the 50.
I'm thinking I would be better off with the 50, move the seat back and up bit to stretch me out a bit an possibly lower the front a bit more. I felt considerably more "open" on both frames than my current road with aero setup.
Again as others have said it's difficult to tell without taking a bike for several rides, which really isn't an option.
Any help would be appreciated...and apologies for beating a dead horse...yes I know go to a proffesional fitter and or learn it myself.
~Matt