I'm glad someone brought this up. Claiming the "The best set of all-around wheels", then later saying he'd never ridden them, then looking back at this post realize that he is shilling for a sponsorship/free set of wheel.

I'm not taking anything away from Mr Patterson or Mr. LeDuc (the ex-world masters champ), they are both cagey strong riders. But it seems Mr. Patterson has done himself a great disservice with this whole thread. He has pretty much thrown any shred of credibility he has as an "expert" right out the window. Well I should say thrown the rest of it out. This whole thread was just the icing on the cake.

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Heath Dotson
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Someone gets his chain yanked a little too easily. I should have put (*sarcasm*) in there.

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Brian Grasky
Grasky Endurance: World Championship Triathlon Coaching; Professional Training Camps
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You can tell by the angle of the cornering that he's clearly going over 27mph, and you can see he is on a deeper than 80mm set of wheels, ergo, he is being accelerated without any additional power. OF COURSE he's going to be riding right past the world champ!

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Erik
Strava

wow how did I miss the last few pages of this thread!

amazing stuff!

the real world defies the laws of physics!

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

To be fair, the laws of physics are hardly set in stone. We're still learning new things. I'm no PhD, but I was in school long enough to know that physics is not an open and shut subject. In fact, I recall that class as hosting some of the most vitriolic discussions I've ever seen.

And it continues in this thread.....lol

There is a cool youtube video on how they get the tension in the spokes... check it out.

yes but in the space of bike wheel performance the physics is good to go, has been since newton.

i mean we can land on the moon with our physics, to suggest we can't model a bike wheel is lunacy.

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

Environmental variability and lack of uniformity in testing also makes things difficult. I can't wait for Chris' wheels to go through the wind tunnel. I'm sure the aero scientists will have a field day....

who are 'the aero scientists' and have they expressed any opinion on how aero these wheels are?

totally new sort of spoke, can't imagine anyone would be sure one way or the other.

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

The laws of physics are indeed set in stone. Our collective understanding of them is not. Confusing those two points is a critical mistake of grandiose proportion. It's common though.

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You will remain the same person, before, during and after the race. So the result, no matter how important, will not define you. The journey is what matters. ~ Chrissie W.

I know this discussion has been one of the more science-based (well, some faux science and some science-defying too), but I can't believe the side of Slowtwitch that critiques people's living room furniture and shoes not matching the bike/kit has not spoken up about that jersey. That is truly an amazing pattern/color combination. Cipollini doesn't have anything on him, especially if he's on 90mm wheels.

proof that unrepentant doping tops gear?

I just wanted to quote this post, forever, given the events of today.