Man this show has been great TV. If it were available all at once I think I would watch it in one sitting. I have a such a crush on Kim.

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Damn, why did they have to do that to Nacho? That was tough to watch.

am watching but too early in season to have an opinion

love the contrast between Mike, a stone cold killer, and the other old folks coming in for help with the wills

My son keeps trying to get me to watch this series, is it good and if so, what series would compare?

ETA - I watched Breaking Bad and loved that series.

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A notch below breaking bad for me but definitely worth the time investment,

It is interesting seeing how characters you already love or hate became what they are. The negative is that you know what happens to Saul, Mike and Fring,

Does anyone have a link to a well edited, recap of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul? I'm willing to invest 30 minutes to an hour before diving into the new series and, while I know it's probably unnecessary, the completist in me wants to remember the context for the various recurring characters that I know are going to pop up.

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Seasons 1-5 on Netflix

I'm on S5E3

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You will 100% love this series then too. Don't give up on it though.

I think those are two very possible outcomes..

The last episode, I noticed her pony tail was pulled into a twist which I thought was kind of a metaphor for her good person/bad(or at least mischevious, taking a walk on the wild side) person personality. Kind of a Jungian, duality of man, play on the character. I can't imagine the show-writers are going to let her turn full evil so that leaves the witness protection option or she gets offed trying to help Jimmy before show's end..

Didn’t see that coming.

First Nacho, now Howard. Who dies next?

The happy ending would be for Mike to take out Lalo. But I'm not optimistic for a happy ending.

Well, we know from "Breaking Bad" that Mike, Gus, Jimmy, and Tyrus all survive. Which means that Lalo doesn't. Someone's gonna take him out.

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In Breaking Bad, when Walt and Jesse kidnap Saul, Saul thinks he's been kidnapped by someone that Lalo sent, "Lalo didn't send you?" - he breathes a sigh of relief when he finds out that is not the case. At least Saul 'thinks' that Lalo would still have the opportunity to direct someone to kidnap him. So, Lalo does make a tiny 'appearance' in BB and can't really be counted that someone takes him out in the time frame between Saul and BB. Now they still need to deal with the epilogue storyline after BB - they hinted to something at the start of season 5. Perhaps this is cleaned up then?

You have quite the memory to recall that one sentence!

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I saw it coming for Nacho. But fuck. They have this way of making a character complex, yet someone you kind of understand and can relate to. And then ... fuck.

I was just going to post what you did about Lalo not being in Breaking Bad, but I too can't remember those details.

One of the beauties of these shows is that there are some many story arcs out there that are open and unresolved. And so much of what the characters do is still open to interpretation. Some stories have a resolution, but most seemingly do not. Kind of like life.

Anybody watch the first episode of the second half-season last night? Damn that was some edge-of-the-seat TV. It seemed like the whole episode was over in about 15 minutes.

This show is as good as anything I've seen on TV.

There are very few "must watch" things on TV right now, but Monday @ 9pm is definitely one of them.

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Agree on the must watch.

I was a little disappointed last night.

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Mike would not have been fooled by Lalo’s deception. Mike plans for every possible contingency. He would have seen through the ruse of sending someone to Gus’s house with a gun.

But still the best show on tv.

How was he to know what the actual ruse was covering? Mike told Gus to stay put, and he was covered at his house. Mike needed to go to Jimmy's to at least try to get information about Lalo's whereabouts from Jimmy, if not to potentially save Jimmy. Lalo's plan was to go to the laundry to document what Gus was doing, not to kill Gus, because he was not expecting Gus to go to or be at the laundry, was he? Didn't he say something about killing Gus was "icing on the cake"?

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Excited to watch it these days. First season wasn't as good as the rest seasons in my opinion and i almost quit watching it. I hope i will be able to fix my firestick remote as it is written here https://www.firesticktricks.com/firestick-remote.html and enjoy the final with the glass of cold beer. I also wait for everyone to fall asleep and enjoy the streaming in a completely quiet house.

I hope there is more to Kim’s story. Anti climatic if she just leaves.

IS it up on Netflix yet? I see the last season has been going on, but I dont have the channel it comes on. Super enjoyed the series so far on Netflix, just have two words for you, "Squat Cobbler!!!"

He is in Omaha and she from Nebraska do who knows it might have a Hollywood ending.

There are 4 episodes remaining. Other than bringing Heisenberg and Jesse into the picture I don’t know what they are going to do.

Kim leaving spurred the transition to Saul Goodman. I love the devolution of Francesca, the receptionist, jimmy turns everyone he meets bad, eventually.

for a spoiler - look at the cast list for the next episode (and i'm not talking about Carol Burnett, although that is a surprise).

"Better Call Saul" Nippy (TV Episode 2022) - IMDb

I totally started thinking that’s what’s going to happen in the final episode. They gave Jesse a happy ending in the movie; I think Saul is getting one too.

I missed the point of the latest episode.

Saul still has the need for the thrill of the game, okay.

Nice to see that Carol Burnett is still alive.

Gene reverted to Slippin' Jimmy. Jimmy still has the need for the thrill of the game. Jimmy rejected Saul.

I think that's part of what makes the show so good. Hawley isn't afraid to spend time setting something up with a slow build. Not every episode is a shootout. I suspect looking back at the end, this episode will make much more sense.

Remember, there was an entire episode of BB dedicated to a fly.

One episode remaining.

Saul is on the run. Where does he go? Does Kim still have a role to play? Probably not based on their last interaction.

Does Saul get his deserved ending ala Heisenberg? Or does he live to grift again?

1:38 minutes tonight, can't wait.

My wife is out of town and she asked if I was going to wait until she got home to watch it with her. Pffft...no chance.

Wild guess, Saul goes to prison to take the heat off Kim and Kim goes back to being a lawyer.

If anything bad happens to Kim I'm going to have to post to the, "how angry do you get" thread.

Good call. Enjoyed it.

trying to keep the comments spoiler free. although does not seem to be many followers here in the LR

Very much enjoyed that last episode! Amazingly well written and hard to believe they fit that into an hour episode.

right up to 2/3 of the way through still not sure how it would all resolve.

Stuck the landing - one more time.

86'd

To get rid of, originally for killing someone. The phrase "80 miles out and 6 feet under" was reserved for someone who had to dig their own grave 80 miles from civilization and then get shot execution-style. All terms for 86'd originated from this, be it alcohol or eliminating.
It's supposed that Jimmy Hoffa was 86'd under the endzone of Giants Stadium.

A perfect ending. Possibly the best ending of any multi season show I’ve seen. Jimmy McGill was quite the tragi-comic figure.

For whatever reason I dragged my heels on watching this show. I’m on S2E1 and loving it.

Today’s exercise in self control is not reading through the spoilers in this thread.

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Are you watching it at home, or are you watching it while you drive?

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Are you a fan of Breaking Bad? If so, there are great Easter-eggs and references throughout. Although, depending on how long ago you watched BB, you may miss many of those. If not a fan of BB, this show still works on its own.

DO NOT read this thread! I think we tried to behave ourselves for a week or two after an episode release - but then discussed much of what was happening. IMO, much of what is great about this show is how the show revealed the information over time - and as important what it withheld to reveal later.

My son ended up liking Better Call Saul more than Breaking Bad. I still give Breaking Bad a slight advantage.

The show, Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seehorn are all up for an Emmy again this year. I'm not sure how Rhea doesn't win.

If you are just getting into season two, there is so much more to enjoy!! have fun.

It was a tough slog through some of those episodes early on.
One of those series that really rewards you for sticking with it.

Finished Better Call Saul, then went right into watching Breaking Bad a second time.
Seeing Saul in BB without the whole Slippin Jimmy backstory is an interesting take. I’m up to season 3, and so far Saul has been mainly one dimensional, a great character, but not the complex one he plays in BCS.

Also, seeing BB again, I forgot how many times Jesse screwed the pooch by being dumb. And Walt is actually kind of a dick, almost bi-polar at times. Great shows both of them.


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finally put the last three episodes to bed last night. what a great series that i want to rewatch because i got kind of tangled in the timelines, and because it's just so good.

am i crazy or is that Red from Shawshank sitting on the prison bus at :30 ?

I’m halfway through the final season now. I didn’t think they could top the final scene with Nacho but then I saw the Plan and Execution episode with Howard and Lalo.

Gut punch.

This is a fantastic series.

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Part 2 of season 6, which are the episodes following Plan and Execution, are dark compared to the rest of the series. BCS was always a bit more light, fun, and good natured compared to Breaking Bad but Season 6 Part 2 has a darker, more serious Breaking Bad vibe.

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We went through it this spring. I had read a lot of spoilers but I had not read that. Caught me completely by surprise.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

I finished the last four episodes last night. Outstanding finish but hard to watch at times.

A couple thoughts/questions/spoilers...

The final scene with Carol Burnett (GREAT casting BTW) really nailed the descent of Jimmy/Saul, where it appeared he was prepared to physically hurt an old woman to save himself, after spending his legal career immersed in the minutia of their fragile lives. His last minute unwillingness to do so hinted at his ultimate fate, that the shred of decency in his heart would lead to his death in prison but ultimate salvation.

How in the world did Lalo get that one line reference in BB without the writers creating this entire story arc in advance and keeping it in pocket? Also phenomenal casting; Dalton stole every scene and it wasn't even close. In fact, this may be the runaway best cast I've seen in a series, including BB. Stellar in every major role.

The final courtroom scene put a nice twist on Jimmy's head fake performances, harkening back to his law board reinstatement speech about his brother, which Kim and the viewer initially thought to be sincere. His "showtime" whisper before facing the federal judge gave the impression he was headed in that direction before his final slight of hand that destroyed his plea bargain for the sake of Kim and the people he hurt. I had no idea where he was going with it, which was essentially the story of Jimmy McGill. So very well done. I have to watch again to appreciate the finer details but I'm wondering if that actually helped Kim from the legal perspective or just gave her peace knowing that what she could not forget wouldn't be forgotten or concealed any longer.

Her breakdown on the bus in "waterworks" was a long time coming. It bothered me a little that it came after she put herself in legal jeopardy with her confession; it would have been more meaningful if it preceded it and removed the self pity potential. But even so, it's understandable to feel self pity when you realize you've destroyed lives, including your own, for no good reason whatsoever.

Seeing Howard and Lalo entombed in that hole inside a hole was a powerful shot, distilling the horrors of the series to one poignant moment: there are no winners in this game and no divine justice keeping the innocent safe from harm.

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Forgot to mention, the final scene with Walter White where they're discussing regret, was this a flashback to a BB scene or a new fictional encounter representing something akin to fate? The transition from Jimmy on the jail cot to waking up in what looked like a cell with Walter seemed to me a representation of Hell where they both earned their place to torment each other.

Either way, another perfectly placed and played scene.

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It ties into the next to last episode of BB:

“Granite State” was Breaking Bad’s penultimate episode, marking Saul Goodman’s final appearance on the show. After Hank’s death and with Walter White exposed as Heisenberg following the events of “Ozymandias,” Walter and all of his associates became America’s most wanted criminals – and that included Saul Goodman. Both Saul and Walter then hired Ed’s cleaner vacuum service, that is, a ticket to a new life far away from Albuquerque with a new identity. However, before Saul could go to Nebraska and Walt could go to New Hampshire, the former partners had to spend a few days hiding in Ed’s secret bunker, a significant time period that Breaking Bad never really explored except for one small scene.

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I think I've forgotten more about that show than I remember. Time to revisit while Saul is still fresh in my head.

I read this today, from NPR. Great analysis of the scene and how it fit the mission of the finale.

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Also interesting is the parallel of Odenkirk's heart attack during the filming of Point and Shoot, where the consequences of Jimmy's reckless lifestyle come unexpectedly to bear in the most harrowing way he and his wife had yet to experience. He was pulseless for 18 minutes, if the reports are correct, and somehow managed to recover and carry on production. That's incredible, and an incredible coincidence.

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