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Your 2020 relationship with alcohol
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EDIT: This thread started as our traditional Dry January thread, but many people discovered new things about their relationship with alcohol, and ways to make themselves better people with less of it in their lives. The first Sixteen pages chronicle every day of Dry January, and now we are extending the thread to include those who hit the reset button later in February, and for all of us who want to check in for some accountability and encouragement as we make more revelations and better decisions for ourselves.

Feel free to post, especially if you want to try your own stretch of dryness, and follow along with us as we explore this year with meaningful reflection on our habits.






Happy New Year everyone!

As in previous years, many of us partake in a lack of partaking for the first 31 days of the year. This year is no different. Let's get ready to NOT do it!

In the past years, many people have talked about the changes they've experienced in Dry January- shedding of pounds, better sleep, better workouts, and an overall improvement of quality of life. Other people talk about the difficulties of social pressure, stress alleviation, and other obstacles they encounter.

If you'd like to participate, feel free to do so silently, but we've found that there's safety and accountability in numbers, and many of us will be checking in often to talk about struggles, triumphs, and revelations that occur this month.

Good luck everyone, we're all here for each other.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe some people will decide that it's not worth it, but how will they know either way unless they try?

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [realbdeal] [ In reply to ]
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I know this isn't the typical situation, but I've been sober for a little over 3 years now. My life has completely turned around. Sleep is so much better, life is better, I have a lot more mental focus and energy. I just got into endurance sports last year (2019) and I'll be doing my first marathon in March and my first half Ironman in September. Giving up alcohol was definitely the best decision I've ever made for myself.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [realbdeal] [ In reply to ]
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realbdeal wrote:
Maybe some people will decide that it's not worth it, but how will they know either way unless they try?

Fair point. But why bother then? Do people give up things that they know are good for them as an experiment? Honest question.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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you've quickly become one of my favorite STers.

If I participate in dry January it will be mostly accidental. I rarely drink; alcohol isn't one of my many issues

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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Klaus Daimler wrote:
Do people give up things that they know are good for them as an experiment? Honest question.

Of course. Are you perfect at eating? Working out? At work? In your personal relationships? Religion (if applicable)? Try something (or give something up) for a month and maybe you like it and it becomes a habit.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I rarely drink, but I love following this thread for all the positivity and support.

I've been "eating like an asshole" for far too long - if only I could give up food cold turkey. :(
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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Klaus Daimler wrote:
I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not

Because beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy?

This is an exercise in discipline. Kudos to all that have as much, and as easily, as you do. But for others, this month is eye-opening. It HAS and it DOES changes habits for the people here. And I'd say that no matter what, most of us here develop a much healthier relationship with alcohol after this month, and are more mindful of themselves moving forward.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [duganator99] [ In reply to ]
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duganator99 wrote:
I know this isn't the typical situation, but I've been sober for a little over 3 years now. My life has completely turned around. Sleep is so much better, life is better, I have a lot more mental focus and energy. I just got into endurance sports last year (2019) and I'll be doing my first marathon in March and my first half Ironman in September. Giving up alcohol was definitely the best decision I've ever made for myself.

This is amazing. Congratulations, rockstar!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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Try something like giving up single use plastic. Run every day for a month. Doable for a short period of time and gives insight into how things are different and can lead to meaningful reduction/inclusion. Going vegan/vegetarian for a short time can make you a much better cook and appreciate cooking. Going low or high cadence on the bike can work wonders for a period if time.

It's about learning. Not for everyone but there is some evidence about setting a routine.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Dr_Cupcake wrote:
Klaus Daimler wrote:
I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not

Because beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy?

This is an exercise in discipline. Kudos to all that have as much, and as easily, as you do. But for others, this month is eye-opening. It HAS and it DOES changes habits for the people here. And I'd say that no matter what, most of us here develop a much healthier relationship with alcohol after this month, and are more mindful of themselves moving forward.

I would just add that within the individual and within individuals relationship(s) with alcohol are almost never binary....until they are.

This could be just a fun thing, lose a few pounds, sleep a bit better, etc. Or it might help some with “larger” issues.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I think it's a great motivator and a great way to start the year.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Im in, but it starts tomorrow (: I figure today is still a holiday and I got some holiday beers that I don't want to go bad in my fridge over the next month!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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I had to give up running for the last 9 weeks because of hip injury. Makes me realize how much time it takes out of the week running 40 mpw +\-.

Also makes me realize how much I miss it. I find myself driving around checking out running conditions wishing I was running...
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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Klaus Daimler wrote:
I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not

I agree, I'm 52 and last drank when I was 19, I don't get why people have to drink.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triathlete37] [ In reply to ]
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triathlete37 wrote:
Klaus Daimler wrote:
I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not

I agree, I'm 52 and last drank when I was 19, I don't get why people have to drink.

Then this thread is obviously not for you.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [edbikebabe] [ In reply to ]
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I gave up drinking on January 1, 2019, and have not missed it. If given a choice in terms of calorie intake I'll choose food over alcohol every time. My fitness goals and body composition goals are much more important to me. Obviously, that doesn't apply to everyone, and that's okay.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triathlete37] [ In reply to ]
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triathlete37 wrote:
Klaus Daimler wrote:
I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not


I agree, I'm 52 and last drank when I was 19, I don't get why people have to drink.


Well in your marvelous plight you too had a first month. So let people have theirs in peace within this thread. I also bet one or both of you is slightly overweight, or perhaps cheated on something before, or suck at your jobs, has weak EQ / Indulges in something not that great for society. Get over yourselves.

I’m in!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry, I already lost this year.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triczyk] [ In reply to ]
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triczyk wrote:
triathlete37 wrote:
Klaus Daimler wrote:
I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not


I agree, I'm 52 and last drank when I was 19, I don't get why people have to drink.


Well in your marvelous plight you too had a first month. So let people have theirs in peace within this thread. I also bet one or both of you is slightly overweight, or perhaps cheated on something before, or suck at your jobs, has weak EQ / Indulges in something not that great for society. Get over yourselves.

I’m in!

Trying to be a pretentious asshole for 2020 too? If so you are 1/366th of the way there. I’d tell you to pat yourself on the back but I am sure you already do.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triczyk] [ In reply to ]
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triczyk wrote:
triathlete37 wrote:
Klaus Daimler wrote:
I can never get my head around the "no x for y amount of time" challenges. If it worth giving up alcohol for a month, why not give it up altogether?

signed,
someone who previously drank but now does not


I agree, I'm 52 and last drank when I was 19, I don't get why people have to drink.


Well in your marvelous plight you too had a first month. So let people have theirs in peace within this thread. I also bet one or both of you is slightly overweight, or perhaps cheated on something before, or suck at your jobs, has weak EQ / Indulges in something not that great for society. Get over yourselves.

I’m in!

Best to ignore. There's a few of these goobers that pop into this thread each year.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I’m in. It’s overdue.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [charlie1980] [ In reply to ]
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I stopped boozing four months ago.

BP was elevated on two different meds, and is now normal. Cholesterol was north of 300 and is now 172. I’ve changed literally nothing else about my life. Diet just as bad as always.

I’m sure I was drinking more than most here, but it does go to show how bad the sauce can be. More power to all participating.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Doing whole30 for January so I am in by default.

Gonna be a long month - thank you for postingďĽ
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Mike J] [ In reply to ]
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ill start on Monday

i like having a few drinks a day over the holiday (i'm off until monday) - plus the wife and I are going away for 2 days without the kids tomorrow, so I need to push the red wine if i'm going to get lucky
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I’m in. I average 1-2 beers/week during the bulk of the year, but that goes up to 7-8 during the holidays and then a few each day while on vacation, which ends today, so zero in January is a good reset for me.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [y_nigel] [ In reply to ]
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I’m in. Was thinking of just giving up my craft beer habit and availing myself of other options for social events in an effort to lose some weight. But, I’m all in.

Unfortunately I’ve got a bigger challenge- in October I had a cancerous tumor removed from my bladder (it’s supposedly treatable) Kinda said screw it and started drinking more and eating whatever I wanted. That’s clearly not the answer. It’s s time to take control of things that I can.

I go back on January 16 to have a procedure to see where I am with this dreaded disease. So, I’ll be half way through this challenge and at the next stage of the cancer challenge.
And so it goes.
Let’s do this!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for January 2020. Thanks for organizing this on Slowtwitch. Last year January was no problem. Who needs that freakn alcohol? It doesn't seem to REALLY help anyone and most certainly causes a lot of problems.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Given my Handle name, this is obviously going to be a challenge. I'm under intense pressure at work, and have been drinking more to cope... It's not making anything better, just worse. I feel like shit the next day, which just exacerbates the whole shitty situation. I could use a break.

Also, I'm getting a Dexa body scan this Friday, so before and after results will be very interesting!

Stay Strong!
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In for year two of Dry January, hopefully its easier than last year
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I’ve no plans to join anyone on this journey, but I’m curious. For those of you who report huge improvements in sleep, workouts, etc., how much were you drinking beforehand?
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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stillrollin wrote:
I’m in. Was thinking of just giving up my craft beer habit and availing myself of other options for social events in an effort to lose some weight. But, I’m all in.

Unfortunately I’ve got a bigger challenge- in October I had a cancerous tumor removed from my bladder (it’s supposedly treatable) Kinda said screw it and started drinking more and eating whatever I wanted. That’s clearly not the answer. It’s s time to take control of things that I can.

I go back on January 16 to have a procedure to see where I am with this dreaded disease. So, I’ll be half way through this challenge and at the next stage of the cancer challenge.
And so it goes.
Let’s do this!

Hopefully you get good news on the 16th.

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [JackStraw13] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. Dealing with it is my new normal. Hoping I won’t need those fine folks at Sloan Kettering anytime soon.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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My heart was acting up in races and I was dx with PVC, so I decided to quit caffeine and alcohol on August. It was easy to do and I don't feel weird when I go hard, so maybe it helped my heart. I was a very heavy coffee drinker and found quitting very easy. Nice not having all the coffee drama when I travel. Old mil na is almost as good as regular old mil.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [commendatore] [ In reply to ]
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I wouldn’t say huge necessarily, just...noticeable.

I’m not a heavy drinker by any stretch. Maybe a max of 3 drinks a week. But I’ve got the alcoholic genetics, plus being wee in stature, plus being post-menopausal all working against me.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Day 1 for me is in the books as I’m tucking in to bed, and I’ll continue my habit from last year of posting as the day is done. Congrats on making it this far! It may seem like a small day, but they start adding up very quickly.

Today was easy, as I had a relaxed day. Easier than expected because we brewed a batch of American Pale Ale this afternoon, and it’s of course almost a requirement to enjoy a beer as part of the process. I realized that my cherry oat porter is going to run out without me having another taste of it, and that made me kind of annoyed, haha.

Tomorrow will be interesting, I have an FTP test and then some painful dental work, and I may be crying for analgesics of some sort by the end of it.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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X 1000. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in exactly 12 years and have zero regrets. All Pro's zero Con's. My life and training have been so much better. Despite some of the bullshit studies on red wine, the truth is there is zero positives to alcohol. It's one-hundred-percent poison and does not belong in the human body. Want to relax, drink some chamomile tea. :-)
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Day 1 done. Trying to eat better also. Let's all help one another here.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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As always I will be in.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in again. I think it helped me a little nutritionally last year. After last year's No-A January, my baseline shrank to about 1 beer per month anyway (just grab a beer when meeting with friends in pubs, etc), so it shouldn't be hard.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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Because it’s a worthwhile “check in” and test.

I drink, but I’m wary of alcoholism due to family history. I’ve also always felt like I come into the holidays having been drinking too much for a while. So for the last couple years I’ve quit non-event drinking from basically mid November to Christmas, and limited it to those events the addition of which makes had previously made me feel like I’ve been drinking too much. I.e., holiday parties and thanksgiving and related events. So it ends up being a glass of wine at thanksgiving, a glass of wine at my office holiday party, and maybe one at my wife’s.

So not quite completely dry, but I’m someone who will really look forward to a drink at dinner on a Friday after a long week at work. To me it’s good to check in every once in a while and evaluate my reaction to not having that.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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japarker24 wrote:
I'm in. Day 1 done. Trying to eat better also. Let's all help one another here.

I understand most here are not alcoholics (I am a recovering alcoholic) but I think most would be amazed at what an AA meeting (if its open and not a closed meeting, meaning it allows non-alcoholics) is like. Its just people helping people be better with life in any way. Really positive stuff mostly.

I like the idea of using this thread to help each other in any way.

Cheers.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Count me in as well. Going to start a swim block in january up to march....
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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In and through day 1. Normally a day with this much football would mean a few good beers...today was a lot of water and coffee.

Thanks for throwing this out there this year.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Sounds good. I too am going to give whole 30 a shot so this will be a good place to post. It’s interesting to see the range of replies here - not sure why the snark is needed. Congrats if you are sober and that’s what you want to do. Congrats if you like beer and bourbon and that’s what you want to do. Congrats if you want to take a month to see if making decisions differently impacts your life in some way meaningful.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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BT_DreamChaser wrote:
X 1000. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in exactly 12 years and have zero regrets. All Pro's zero Con's. My life and training have been so much better. Despite some of the bullshit studies on red wine, the truth is there is zero positives to alcohol. It's one-hundred-percent poison and does not belong in the human body. Want to relax, drink some chamomile tea. :-)

Congrats on the dry dozen! I'm a little over 2 myself. The bullshit studies are an interesting example of social currency at work. One who shares those articles gets a plethora of 'likes.' Share an article about all the cancer risks that skyrocket when consuming even a moderate amount of alcohol? Crickets and grumpy friends. Ergo, the casual reader remembers seeing many headlines about some supposed tertiary benefit of drinking, but has rarely seen a headline discussing the more severe risks.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in, but will be starting on Jan 7. I did January last year and will be shooting for two months this year.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Count me in...

I'm already on day 7, hoping to get to Jan 31 and reset my relationship with alcohol from then on. Ultimate goal is to get back to having a few beer after my long workout Saturday afternoon and that's it for the week.

Good luck to everyone, I know for some (like me) it will be a tough go.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Geronimo] [ In reply to ]
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I drink, but I’m wary of alcoholism due to family history. I’ve also always felt like I come into the holidays having been drinking too much for a while.



I am trying not to be judgemental but it seems like you know that you should not drink. Instead of no drink january, make it no drink the rest of your life.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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Klaus Daimler wrote:
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I drink, but I’m wary of alcoholism due to family history. I’ve also always felt like I come into the holidays having been drinking too much for a while.



I am trying not to be judgemental but it seems like you know that you should not drink. Instead of no drink january, make it no drink the rest of your life.

When you start off a sentence with: “ I am trying not to be judgemental...”
You know you are.

Please leave. You’re not helping anyone.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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On Jan 1, I celebrated 31 years sober. I think I will try for another month with you folks.It could be good for me!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Klaus Daimler] [ In reply to ]
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You've already made your case for permanent abstinence. I suggest starting your own thread, rather than starting to go after individuals in this one.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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in. I've started in years past but usually quit "quitting" after a week or two. Not because of craving but just because. This year I am going to give it a go with no intention of dropping. I read something the other day that made me realize that I am not sure there have been too many days since I started college (23 years ago) that I have not had a drink. No real negative life-ramifications from drinking but I do think taking a breather is a good idea. And if endurance performance improves, that's a plus. There were several hard rides this past summer where I felt fine but know that if I had not drank tequila the night before i would have been even stronger!


here's to 2020!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I've looked forward to this the last few years. I'm in, but always a day late plus less happening on 1-Feb in terms of staying dry then. Hoping dry January turns into dry February and beyond.

Best of luck to everyone.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [OakCliffTri] [ In reply to ]
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I might be in again, but I just don't feel as committed. I guess one thing that I would love to track it the effect that it has on HRV. I have been following mine for the last 4-6 weeks and trying to get a good baseline as we gear up for our 4th baby and another year of triathlon with the goal of continuing to improve. I think I need to take into account my recovery better than in the past because my training time is significantly limited with family obligations. I'll follow the thread and see what happens I'm not naive to the negative side of alcohol (especially the useless calories) but I do like the way I can unwind with it and mellow out at the end of a hard day or how it can pair with good food. I gave up binge drinking years ago when I realized that the hangover was not worth the perceived fun of the previous night. I think my last hangover was New years day 3-4 years ago.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I tried going dry during December but the holidays proved too difficult. I'm hoping the accountability of this board will keep me on the straight and narrow.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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stillrollin- there are some interesting studies out there on the effects of a ketogenic diet on cancer growth and subsequent recovery from cancer in people who undertake the diet. Might be worth looking into. The keto diet sounds like it could be pretty difficult to follow, but probably less harsh than the effects of chemo or radiation on your body. Whatever you decide to do, giving up alcohol even if just for a month is a great start! I hope you get good news at your next check-up.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [GT] [ In reply to ]
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GT wrote:
On Jan 1, I celebrated 31 years sober. I think I will try for another month with you folks.It could be good for me!
That's amazing, keep up the great work
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [driftin'by] [ In reply to ]
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driftin'by wrote:
I've looked forward to this the last few years. I'm in, but always a day late plus less happening on 1-Feb in terms of staying dry then. Hoping dry January turns into dry February and beyond.

Best of luck to everyone.
You got this! You're welcome to reach out if you need help.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TriRugby] [ In reply to ]
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TriRugby wrote:
I might be in again, but I just don't feel as committed. I guess one thing that I would love to track it the effect that it has on HRV. I have been following mine for the last 4-6 weeks and trying to get a good baseline as we gear up for our 4th baby and another year of triathlon with the goal of continuing to improve. I think I need to take into account my recovery better than in the past because my training time is significantly limited with family obligations. I'll follow the thread and see what happens I'm not naive to the negative side of alcohol (especially the useless calories) but I do like the way I can unwind with it and mellow out at the end of a hard day or how it can pair with good food. I gave up binge drinking years ago when I realized that the hangover was not worth the perceived fun of the previous night. I think my last hangover was New years day 3-4 years ago.
I for one believe you can do it. If you can train for triathlon and manage 3 (4th on the way) kids then you can do anything.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Celerius] [ In reply to ]
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Celerius wrote:
I'm in. I tried going dry during December but the holidays proved too difficult. I'm hoping the accountability of this board will keep me on the straight and narrow.
It'll be ezpz. Hit me up if you feel like you need any help.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Mike J] [ In reply to ]
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Doing whole30 for January so I am in by default.

Gonna be a long month - thank you for postingďĽ

x2. I'm doing W30 with my girlfriend---second time w/ W30. I'm already at race weight (which is insane for me in January), so I'm interested to see how lean I get in a month. Sure, it will likely be water weight, but I wonder if I can go south of 160 for the first time since grade school. hah.

FWIW, Chipotle's chicken is now W30 compliant. So enjoy.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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The 30 days challenges used to be very difficult for me when I looked at them as a challenge. Now that I see alcohol for what it is, a drug, it is much easier to not drink and I don't feel I am missing out on anything.

If anyone needs inspiration check out the book by Allen Carr called the easy way to quit drinking. Helped me stop all together.
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stillrollin- there are some interesting studies out there on the effects of a ketogenic diet on cancer growth and subsequent recovery from cancer in people who undertake the diet. Might be worth looking into. The keto diet sounds like it could be pretty difficult to follow, but probably less harsh than the effects of chemo or radiation on your body. Whatever you decide to do, giving up alcohol even if just for a month is a great start! I hope you get good news at your next check-up.

Thanks for that. I'll look into it. Much appreciated.

It's a short week people, hopefully that makes getting to the weekend easier ;)
Then, if you're like me, the real work begins. Good luck, we got this!
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Gave up alcohol last year at 28 years old, picked up triathlon 2 months later to utilize all the extra money and time I had. I now have neither the extra time or money. Life is much better though.
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picked up tri about three months out of rehab and never looked back. Almost four years sober. This lifestyle (and meetings) saved my life. Id try for complete abstinence, you wont regret it.
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Started today. . .hungover :-/ I am def looking forward to seeing what may change/improve if anything. I am going through a separation currently and have my kids every other week. I think I started getting more carried away when I started to be by myself and its counterproductive to my goals and ambitions waking up feeling like shit and then seeing my bank account the next day.

Either way, day one is almost in the books and I am planning on waking up early and hitting an interval session I missed today. Boston training cycle has begun! :))

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ejoe156 wrote:
picked up tri about three months out of rehab and never looked back. Almost four years sober. This lifestyle (and meetings) saved my life. Id try for complete abstinence, you wont regret it.
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Congrats to you, 4 years is a great accomplishment!
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Yesterday was hard for me. First day of not drinking in probably 3+ weeks. Plus I was off, so I had the whole day to think about drinking.

Today I’m at work and busy, significantly easier! We’ll see how that goes for the weekend. Wife is also doing it so should be easier.
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ejoe156 wrote:
picked up tri about three months out of rehab and never looked back. Almost four years sober. This lifestyle (and meetings) saved my life. Id try for complete abstinence, you wont regret it.
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Congrats, keep up the good work.
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If its hard to avoid drinking when your alone with your thoughts you may want to see what local meetings are available. Either that or go help someone... anyone. Anything to get out of your own head. That helped me a lot in the beginning.
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AlyraD wrote:
Started today. . .hungover :-/ I am def looking forward to seeing what may change/improve if anything. I am going through a separation currently and have my kids every other week. I think I started getting more carried away when I started to be by myself and its counterproductive to my goals and ambitions waking up feeling like shit and then seeing my bank account the next day.

Either way, day one is almost in the books and I am planning on waking up early and hitting an interval session I missed today. Boston training cycle has begun! :))
You can do it. Separation can be tough, don't let it be an excuse for boozing though. There's no answers at the bottom of the bottle unfortunately.
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Yesterday was hard for me. First day of not drinking in probably 3+ weeks. Plus I was off, so I had the whole day to think about drinking.

Today I’m at work and busy, significantly easier! We’ll see how that goes for the weekend. Wife is also doing it so should be easier.
You got this, keep up the good work and stay strong
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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In...looking forward to it. Getting up early will be easier.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [duganator99] [ In reply to ]
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yeah you are right. I'm tired of it already and it really hasn't been that long. Ready to be productive and make some gains again.

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A day late, but I'm in as well, I'll do an extra day to make up for 1/01.

The first weekend always sucks.... but this should help get my morning swimming back in check.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Happy day two to you rockstars! And me, except for the happy part. FTP test on the bike plus some painful dental work made for an unpleasant day. I would have killed for some bourbon to numb it all down tonight, but instead I curled up on the couch with some water and the new James May series and laughed my way through the throbbing.

Over 6% of the way there now. Tomorrow should be an interesting test, first social outing of the year (with free beer involved).

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cloy wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Doing whole30 for January so I am in by default.

Gonna be a long month - thank you for postingďĽ


x2. I'm doing W30 with my girlfriend---second time w/ W30. I'm already at race weight (which is insane for me in January), so I'm interested to see how lean I get in a month. Sure, it will likely be water weight, but I wonder if I can go south of 160 for the first time since grade school. hah.

FWIW, Chipotle's chicken is now W30 compliant. So enjoy.

Great - love Chipotle. Thanks for sharing. Btw - my wife is in it with me too. Makes a big difference.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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This is a good challenge... a couple of January's ago made it through the first 7 weeks or so. Then later that year stopped for a couple of months. I don't really notice any benefits when I stop for these short little bits, it is a nice reminder that you can make yourself do something if you really want to. The added sugar one felt a little tougher.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. I can't remember how far I got last year. I have a couple bottles of wine and a bottle of champagne sitting around though. I gave up coffee back in november and have been really happy with that decision. Just 1 cup of tea in the morning for me now
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I'm in. I can't remember how far I got last year. I have a couple bottles of wine and a bottle of champagne sitting around though. I gave up coffee back in november and have been really happy with that decision. Just 1 cup of tea in the morning for me now

Whats wrong with coffee?
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Alcohol has actually become an issue for me the last few years.

I have decided to go until Busselton 70.3 in May, with no alcohol. So getting through January will be a pretty good stepping stone to that.

I had my last beer on new years eve, it's now Friday afternoon (give me strength!), but three days will feel good.
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dunno wrote:
Abergili wrote:
I'm in. I can't remember how far I got last year. I have a couple bottles of wine and a bottle of champagne sitting around though. I gave up coffee back in november and have been really happy with that decision. Just 1 cup of tea in the morning for me now

Whats wrong with coffee?

I was getting irregular heart beats when I was racing, so I quit drinking it and it seems to have helped a lot, but I also stopped drinking beer at the same time. Coffee was not hard to quit, all the symptoms resolved in a couple days and I was a heavy consumer. I buy good decaf now and it's close enough, sort of
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I buy good decaf now and it's close enough, sort of

While my wife was pregnant, we switched over to swiss-water processed whole-bean decaf. Finding some was hard and it was kind of expensive, but I couldn't taste much if any difference. Ended up buying it by the 5-lb bag from some monks in New Mexico.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [mgreer] [ In reply to ]
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That's the kind of thing I'm blowing money on now. I drink a lot of it because I like coffee and now I don't care if it's after dinner. I also pound a few non alcoholic old Milwaukees. I've turned into a wanker i guess.
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The Heineken 0.0 tastes more like Heineken than their light beer does, if you'd prefer to not drink Old Milwaukee.

I've personally cut it out since 12/14 and plan to keep it going through end of January. Last night/yesterday was pretty damn difficult. I went to my Alma maters bowl game in Jacksonville and it was a pretty big nail biter. I can probably count the number of games on two hands where I've not had anything to drink in the last 20 years - more nerves than race morning.
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Nothing is really wrong with coffee except the caffeine and I was drinking too much of it, at least 3-4 cups every morning. I’ve switched to hot tea and just one cup
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If anyone is an IPA drinker, Lagunitas makes a non-alcoholic seltzer called Hoppy Refresher that is made with brewers yeast and hops that does 75% of the job for me. 0 carb, 0 calories too. I bought a case when my local store got it back in stock last time.
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Vols wrote:
The Heineken 0.0 tastes more like Heineken than their light beer does, if you'd prefer to not drink Old Milwaukee.

I've personally cut it out since 12/14 and plan to keep it going through end of January. Last night/yesterday was pretty damn difficult. I went to my Alma maters bowl game in Jacksonville and it was a pretty big nail biter. I can probably count the number of games on two hands where I've not had anything to drink in the last 20 years - more nerves than race morning.

Agree with that 100%. As far as non alcoholic beer goes that’s probably the best
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If anyone is an IPA drinker, Lagunitas makes a non-alcoholic seltzer called Hoppy Refresher that is made with brewers yeast and hops that does 75% of the job for me. 0 carb, 0 calories too. I bought a case when my local store got it back in stock last time.

Lagunitas is on the Sell-Out List [they're owned by Heineken], so that's a "No" for me



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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [cassinonorth] [ In reply to ]
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I did not know about that one, may give it a shot since I really like IPAs now.

I'm in again, do this every year, some more successful than others. Well, I'll be in from 1/1 until 1/27, going to Germany and Italy for work and not about to miss out on some good wine. I'm usually very good about only having a few drinks on the weekends, but the holidays (starting at Thanksgiving) start to creep that to every day. January is a good check to get back out of that habit and only enjoy a cold one after the hard workout on the weekends again (in February).

Good luck to all!!!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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I was never very good at being Straight Edge

Back in my band days, I might have been mistaken for one while on stage: I didn't get high or drunk before a gig, didn't drink while playing, but I usually had a couple afterwards and often hooked up with a girl by the end of the night [breaking a couple rules from Minor Threat's "Out Of Step"]

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Abergili] [ In reply to ]
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Abergili wrote:
Nothing is really wrong with coffee except the caffeine and I was drinking too much of it, at least 3-4 cups every morning. I’ve switched to hot tea and just one cup

When I worked at the Ad Agency, and often had to pull all-nighters, I'd have a cups at my side all day long [about 4-6 cups per, maybe?]

With all that behind me now, I only make myself one in the morning, and sometimes I don't even finish that

D'Wife on the other hand ...

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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When my local brewery starts making N/A beers I'll be sure to go over. For now this is what I have to satisfy the hop cravings from time to time.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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FYI - for those wanting to make this challenge easier, reading "This Naked Mind" helped me out a lot. It goes a long way into describing the scientific evidence and psychological factors of why we drink and helps eliminate a lot of the "I need a beer" feeling.

On to day 3 of the new year!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [indianacyclist] [ In reply to ]
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I drink a lot less beer since I stopped using Untappd

Chasing every new release available to me, piling up the badges & so on, was getting to be too much [AND expensive]

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I don’t know how people stay up on Untappd. It just sounds exhausting never kind the drinking part of it all.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triathlete37] [ In reply to ]
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triathlete37 wrote:

I agree, I'm 52 and last drank when I was 19, I don't get why people have to drink.


I drink with Jules Feiffer,
“Sometimes I feel small. And sometimes I feel larger than life. Sometimes I feel crushed. And sometimes I feel like a king. Sometimes I feel slow. And sometimes I feel like a wit. But most of the time I feel just like me. So I drink.”


and Edgar Allan Poe,
“I have absolutely no pleasure in the stimulants in which I sometimes so madly indulge. It has not been in the pursuit of pleasure that I have periled life and reputation and reason. It has been the desperate attempt to escape from torturing memories, from a sense of insupportable loneliness and a dread of some strange impending doom.”


I do 40 days of alcohol-free living each year, just to make sure I can. Oddly enough this has no detectable effects on weight, mood, sleep, exercise, or anything else.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I don’t know how people stay up on Untappd. It just sounds exhausting never kind the drinking part of it all.

It's a giant peen measuring contest. Pretty much exactly like Strava but catered towards an extremely unhealthy hobby. Critique social media all you want but at least users on Strava are getting fit.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [doug in co] [ In reply to ]
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doug in co wrote:
I do 40 days of alcohol-free living each year,

So you're Catholic, too?

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fuck I'm already getting tired of this. Just want a beer, just one/two/three beers. . .

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fuck I'm already getting tired of this. Just want a beer, just one/two/three beers. . .

It’s gets WAY easier after day three. The residual effects of your last drink will finally be out of your system. Stay strong!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Ugh :-/

I fought the urge to by a 6 pack. Even though my favorite brewery is literally behind me! (:

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [cassinonorth] [ In reply to ]
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Have you tried Brooklyn brews special effects?

I just picked that up along with heineken 0.0. I just tried the heineken and it actually tastes decent (better than actual heineken which i hate because it's so skunky).

I'm not going totally dry just no alcohol on weekdays, unless it's a work function and limited that to 1 drink. I'm a bit of a craft beer nerd and been chasing too many beers. My beer cellar is a bit out of hand. It's not good for the wallet, weight gain and recovery. My plan is to make this long term, at least one year, and permanent if possible.

I'm on day #5 and finally feeling like it's very doable and might even continue through weekend.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [AlyraD] [ In reply to ]
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AlyraD wrote:
fuck I'm already getting tired of this. Just want a beer, just one/two/three beers. . .
Stay strong
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Year 3 for me. This year has been super easy so far, as I have a cold and don't at all feel like drinking. :P
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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First Friday done.
Tomorrow will be more challenging as I go for a nice Italian dinner with some old friends. Red wine will be tough to pass.

Keep pushing everyone. I will.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [AlyraD] [ In reply to ]
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since its just a dry month, this doesn't include green right?? :))

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [cassinonorth] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to try and find this. Lagunitas Maximus is one of my favorite IPAs and its not a problem finding it in WI. I have a feeling an NA from them might be a little more difficult.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Day three is in the books! Just shy of 10% done.

Today was a good test, we went to our local microbrewery and the owner already had a (non-alcoholic) cider waiting for me when we got up to the bar to order. It makes me happy when people can be so encouraging.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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10 percent sounds much less in the starting blocks than day 3, thanks for that oneđź

My wife made a great tomato olive and caper pasta and she had a nice red with it. I skipped the wine and had soda water with lemon.
It felt quite easy cos I am looking forward to the results - I decided to cut sugar too.

Just need to see what is in soda water... Probably too much salt... Might need to make that lemon water or home made ice tea with english tea
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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First Friday night in a long time without having a few, and it certainly made getting up and hopping on Zwift at 5 am more enjoyable!

Looking forward to the rest of the month and hopefully seeing a positive trend in health and lifestyle
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Just need to see what is in soda water... Probably too much salt... Might need to make that lemon water or home made ice tea with english tea

There is no sodium in La Croix

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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3 days and it feels like a year.
I think between 5-8pm I have drank a 6 pack of water.
Woke up feeling hung over but hiy the gym at 5 am then jump into an ice bath. New daily routine.
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Nice work! I also had an early Zwift morning, and I am starting to feel ready to leap out of bed in the mornings now. Which, is no fun when I can actually afford to sleep in a bit, haha.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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It's weird...I have been super fatigued last last couple days since stopping. The opposite of what I expected, but apparently not that uncommon. A good lesson in how regular drinking can disrupt one's physiology.
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plant_based wrote:
lacticturkey wrote:
Just need to see what is in soda water... Probably too much salt... Might need to make that lemon water or home made ice tea with english tea

There is no sodium in La Croix

Thank god. I drink at least 8 a day.

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plant_based wrote:
lacticturkey wrote:
Just need to see what is in soda water... Probably too much salt... Might need to make that lemon water or home made ice tea with english tea

There is no sodium in La Croix

Any big spray?
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AlyraD wrote:
fuck I'm already getting tired of this. Just want a beer, just one/two/three beers. . .

So, why didn't the board do Sober October? My April was very sober.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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October has Halloween. No way I am not enjoying that to the fullest. So far so good, but I think I should choose February next year since its the shortest of months.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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This is my second year of Dry January.
I enjoyed it last year much more than I expected.
I thought it was interesting because I found that there was definitely a part of my day where I had developed a habit of having a drink or two. Taking a full month to explore that gave me a good chance to set up some new behavior patterns that I like a lot better.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [AlyraD] [ In reply to ]
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Tonight will be a close run thing. Playoff football and icy cold Sip of Sunshine IPA (my fave) left over in the fridge from NYE.....
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Four days done and dusted. Woohoo!

Today was tough. Football playoffs with a stressed pats fan husband and being otherwise bored today. I made it through by eating a bunch of dark chocolate after dinner. Slept like a champ last night though!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Cupcake - been meaning to thank you for starting this again and posting daily - it means a lot.

It’s all mental. I thought about it (not drinking) all day yesterday. But I had no problem not drinking at dinner out with friends. Waiting at the bar for a few minutes without drinking was odd though. Fish out of water. I made good food choices too. Funny how it goes hand in hand.

I slept well too and it’s probably the first Sunday I’m not at least a little hungover in a long time.

We’re on roll. Let’s keep going people!
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I’m in as of today.

Probably the first night without alcohol in over a year.

Not looking forward to trying to sleep tonight but am looking forward to getting to dropping the beer guy that has appeared during my Ironman recovery over the last few weeks.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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You are so welcome. One of the things I love about this thread is that we all come together and rally for each other. Whether people choose to do it visibly here for accountability, or PM me or someone else for a private accountabilibuddy, it's all helping us be more mindful and thoughtful about what we do with our bodies. It's pretty neat to see us all lift each other up.

Keep up the great work!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Props and best of luck to everyone in the thread
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How's everyone doing so far?
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [duganator99] [ In reply to ]
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Nearly at the end of day one for me..

Made it through my â€temptation hour’ which is when I make the family meal.. love a few beers while doing that and shooting the shit with my kids.

Still worried about getting off to sleep tonight but hey... it is what it is.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [duganator99] [ In reply to ]
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duganator99 wrote:
How's everyone doing so far?

Getting through Friday and Saturday nights has put me in a great frame of mind. I have no desire for my usual Sunday libations.

I’ve also gotten back on the trainer and been eating a bit better. A trifecta I didn’t see coming.

I hope others are having a similar experience.
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Miamiamy wrote:
This is my second year of Dry January.
I enjoyed it last year much more than I expected.
I thought it was interesting because I found that there was definitely a part of my day where I had developed a habit of having a drink or two. Taking a full month to explore that gave me a good chance to set up some new behavior patterns that I like a lot better.

Amen to that. Yesterday there was no drinking for us so the wife and I went to a nice dog park with the kids, that also has a nice play area, then right next to it there are guys flying radio controlled planes which the kids like. Then Costco so good day overall.

If there was drinking we would have done the shitty dog park with shitty play area for the kids where there is BEER ON TAP!!! Would’ve downed 2-3 each then home then more drinking so good result overall. Like you said it’s all about habits.
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already caved last night.

Spent a good 25 min post long run and saturday afternoon swim with the gf debating whether I should have some tequila late afternoon before we had a date night. We decided that wine is the "least bad." Definitely regretted it.

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5 months for me,. I miss it like a hole in the head, though I seldom had more than one beer a night anyway. Glad I just did it.
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Was a tough one last night, ended up at the neighbors for dinner, everyone is drinking before, during, and then after, the host starts pulling out his good scotch and other interesting libations. Got a sixer of Heineken 0.0 so that helped.
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Was a tough one last night, ended up at the neighbors for dinner, everyone is drinking before, during, and then after, the host starts pulling out his good scotch and other interesting libations. Got a sixer of Heineken 0.0 so that helped.

I have tried all the non-alcohol beers at the local now (albeit, there are only 3). Peroni 0.0, Carlton Zero and this Raspberry Sour one. The raspberry one advertised itself as 'No alcohol', but after I had a few I was reading the can and it is 0.5%. Kind of disappointed.
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djhuff7 wrote:
Was a tough one last night, ended up at the neighbors for dinner, everyone is drinking before, during, and then after, the host starts pulling out his good scotch and other interesting libations. Got a sixer of Heineken 0.0 so that helped.


I have tried all the non-alcohol beers at the local now (albeit, there are only 3). Peroni 0.0, Carlton Zero and this Raspberry Sour one. The raspberry one advertised itself as 'No alcohol', but after I had a few I was reading the can and it is 0.5%. Kind of disappointed.

So is Kombucha banned as well :-|
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I feel the pain man especially the scotch
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Haha I don't know. I don't consider that I have failed, was just annoyed it did have alcohol (the box clearly said 'alcohol-free' in big writing). I suppose 0.0s also contain a tiny amount.

I did find those drinks helpful. Made me feel like I was drinking but also did not have the urge to keep drinking them like I would have if it were a couple of proper beers.
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Was a tough one last night, ended up at the neighbors for dinner, everyone is drinking before, during, and then after, the host starts pulling out his good scotch and other interesting libations. Got a sixer of Heineken 0.0 so that helped.

Is Heineken 0.0 really 0% alcohol? I'm not judging by any means, but truly curious. I know options like O'douls,etc say less than 0.5% alcohol but still contain a trace of alcohol. I'm debating in my mind if I have one of those am I truly successful in quitting?

What does everyone think? I'm having a hard time with the challenge & I expect the cravings & temptation are going to continue all month.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Poldarn wrote:
Nearly at the end of day one for me..

Made it through my â€temptation hour’ which is when I make the family meal.. love a few beers while doing that and shooting the shit with my kids.

Still worried about getting off to sleep tonight but hey... it is what it is.
You got this!
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stillrollin wrote:
duganator99 wrote:
How's everyone doing so far?

Getting through Friday and Saturday nights has put me in a great frame of mind. I have no desire for my usual Sunday libations.

I’ve also gotten back on the trainer and been eating a bit better. A trifecta I didn’t see coming.

I hope others are having a similar experience.
Keep it up!
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What does everyone think? I'm having a hard time with the challenge & I expect the cravings & temptation are going to continue all month.

I think that something just as important as sticking with the challenge of staying dry is understanding where the cravings and triggers come from with the urge to drink. It may help you make healthier choices down the road.

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already caved last night.

Spent a good 25 min post long run and saturday afternoon swim with the gf debating whether I should have some tequila late afternoon before we had a date night. We decided that wine is the "least bad." Definitely regretted it.
No reason you can start again. It's a small bump in the road
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Five days gone. A whole 16% of the way there. Great job everyone! I hope the toughest days are behind you now.

Today was an easy one. Wish I could have slept more after such a late night, but I did over three hours of yoga today and my mind is happier for it, I’m also starting to see a dip in my RHR which is normally inflated by my medication.

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andy12 wrote:
djhuff7 wrote:
Was a tough one last night, ended up at the neighbors for dinner, everyone is drinking before, during, and then after, the host starts pulling out his good scotch and other interesting libations. Got a sixer of Heineken 0.0 so that helped.

I have tried all the non-alcohol beers at the local now (albeit, there are only 3). Peroni 0.0, Carlton Zero and this Raspberry Sour one. The raspberry one advertised itself as 'No alcohol', but after I had a few I was reading the can and it is 0.5%. Kind of disappointed.

Not in on this for various reasons - though I might go for I later this year. However, just wanted to make a brief comment to the 0.5% (I used to work as legal counsel at a major brewing company).

In Europe, anything up to 0.5% may be labeled as non-alcoholic. However, if you do label 0.0% it must be accurate - i.e. no alcoholic content.

Also, be aware that soft drinks contain a small amount of alcohol. I believe that it is around 0.2-0.3%, which is a result from that the flavorings that are used in the soft drinks are dissolved in alcohol.

0.5% is not really noticeable and does not have any physical effects to my knowledge. In my book, and as most non-alcoholic beers contain up to 0.5%, I wouldn’t hesitate drinking it and still consider myself being off alcohol. I am not a big drinker and have no problems with limiting my intake, but I do have switched to non-alcoholic beer for the most part and think it is a great substitute.
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I wish everyone the best here. I think the focus shouldn't be alcohol free January though, it should be permanently quitting alcohol. What's the point in quitting for one month and then binging come February 1st?

I quit last January because I wanted to get serious about my calorie intake. In order to keep the cals down, it was giving up food or booze. I knew it wouldn't be food and that I needed it for training fuel. With those things in mind, I quit and haven't looked back. I had a margarita in April at dinner with a coworker and a beer on Christmas Eve at our neighbor's house. That's it. I enjoyed those drinks, but did not crave more or miss it.

For me it was choosing between something more important. What is it for you? Knowing your better sober for your family, long term health, performance, weight loss, etc.? Do it for you forever.
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Hate to be a party pooper but it can be life threatening for an alcoholic to just stop drinking altogether so if anyone out there is a very heavy drinker it’d be best if you sought medical advice about stopping alcohol rather than just attempting to quit outright.
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cloy wrote:
already caved last night.

Spent a good 25 min post long run and saturday afternoon swim with the gf debating whether I should have some tequila late afternoon before we had a date night. We decided that wine is the "least bad." Definitely regretted it.

If that is how you feel, get back on Dry and enjoy the journey 🙏
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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'Everything in moderation'

Except in January obviously :)

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Well, I failed way earlier than last time I tried. We had a party with friends and I didn't even think about the challenge and enjoyed a couple drinks. I guess I will just hop back on and start today, well I guess I started yesterday since I didn't have any then. No plans this weekend. It should be easy to get at least 1 week.

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Is Heineken 0.0 really 0% alcohol? I'm not judging by any means, but truly curious. I know options like O'douls,etc say less than 0.5% alcohol but still contain a trace of alcohol. I'm debating in my mind if I have one of those am I truly successful in quitting?

What does everyone think? I'm having a hard time with the challenge & I expect the cravings & temptation are going to continue all month.

For me, I battled back and forth on even getting the 0.0, because part of the quitting is to limit calories, and those have 69 empty calories in them too. I just checked, and no where on the bottle does it say anything about 0.5. It is all "alcohol free" verbiage.

My intention was to enjoy the social aspect of drinking, and potentially avoid the questions on why I'm not. Unfortunately when everyone starts passing around interesting wines and Grappa, Scotch and offering a taste, you kind of have to come clean.
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Not to speak to others intentions, but my motivation is really 3 fold. 1. it is my magic bullet to drop lbs. Cut the booze and I instantly have a caloric deficit to my prior diet. 2. A self check that I can stop, I have power over it. 3. A reset of habits from the holidays, as I tend to imbibe much more frequently during the holidays with family / friends constantly around, football darn near every day. Need to break the Pavlovian responses.

I enjoy a good wine and a good beer, and this helps me keep that in moderation.
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Today was tough.....being otherwise bored today.

This is my 3rd year of willpower month and boredom is usually what gets to me. First couple of days weren't a problem, but I found yesterday to be a bit of a struggle due though. Every time I'd wander through the kitchen (which was quite often due to aimless wandering through the house and an open floor plan), the lone beer in the fridge would call out to me. Made it through though. Probably should just take the beer out of the fridge and put it in the pantry.
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I'm still using-up the remaining Brandy Cream/Sauce on the Christmas Pudding; but I consider that a 'pass'.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TriRugby] [ In reply to ]
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I did the same :-/ Not happy about it but no sense in letting it rule us. I'll just start today again :)

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Day 5
Made it.
5 mile run & ice swim.
Lots of water & seltzer with lemons and lime & hot chicken broth.
Have to drop 25 lbs for 2 Marathons this year.
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mwanner13 wrote:
I wish everyone the best here. I think the focus shouldn't be alcohol free January though, it should be permanently quitting alcohol. What's the point in quitting for one month and then binging come February 1st?


whats the point in posting stuff like this?
cant speak for anyone else - but not everyone has a problem with addiction/binging/etc.

i'm definitely not over weight, exercise tons, and can easily go a week without drinking - life is way to short and stressful to not enjoy a bottle of wine with your wife or a few beers with your friends once in a while.
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Jorgan wrote:
'Everything in moderation'

"... including 'moderation'" - Oscar Wilde

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djhuff7 wrote:
Was a tough one last night, ended up at the neighbors for dinner, everyone is drinking before, during, and then after, the host starts pulling out his good scotch and other interesting libations. Got a sixer of Heineken 0.0 so that helped.


Is Heineken 0.0 really 0% alcohol? I'm not judging by any means, but truly curious. I know options like O'douls,etc say less than 0.5% alcohol but still contain a trace of alcohol. I'm debating in my mind if I have one of those am I truly successful in quitting?

What does everyone think? I'm having a hard time with the challenge & I expect the cravings & temptation are going to continue all month.

It is. A friend was recently diagnosed with pancreatitis and loves (loved) his craft beer, and this is now his go-to as he can't even tolerate a 0.5% brew.

Speaking of which.. I've been thoroughly impressed with Athletic Brewing's offerings. My local beer place can barely keep it in stock, and the reviews on beer sites are surprisingly good.

I've had the Run Wild IPA, All Out Stout, Stump Jump Brown Ale and the Upside Dawn, and liked them all. My beer fridge now has more of their brews in it than "real" beers, and I'm waiting for them to start offering kegs so that I can restock the kegerator.

A friend who's a hardcore homebrewer and self-confessed beer snob loves their stuff and has been buying their special release brews online etc. He even asked for a case of Athletic as payment for some bike parts he sold me.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TriRugby] [ In reply to ]
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Another um, re-configuration here. I try not to view it as a failure. I am doing dry weekdays but a beer or G&T on the weekends is cool. For me
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I made it through dinner Friday night with my wife. We went to a bar where she had a wine, then to a great restaurant where she had a couple glasses of wine. I drank Topo Chico and Club Soda and was fine. Didn't miss the drink at all. We watched a movie and I got up early for a ride AND FELT GREAT! But I didn't sleep any better than normal after 3 days no booze.
Come Sat afternoon and I just felt like a drink was what I wanted to enjoy with my wife while we chilled at home. So i did. Had 3 tequila/topo chicos, had a great meal and we watched another good movie. Slept better Sat night than Fri night. Woke up, cooked family breakfast then went on 2 great rides (1 solo; 1 with 6 year old son and 9 year old daughter- she LOVES gravel grinding!)
Had a beer after and some wine with dinner. Felt great this am.

Decided to modify- no drinking on Monday- Friday, have a drink sat- sun if I want to.

Not because I felt the urge to, but I chose to. I'm good with that.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I've never personally had a drinking problem, but it runs in my family for sure. Like most of you I tend to imbibe more around the holidays. It just comes with the territory of parties, friends visiting, family visiting, lots of celebratory meals.

Anyway, While discussing my family history. I asked my Dr "How do you know if you have or are starting to develop a drinking problem?"

His response has always stuck with me. "I often hear people say they they try to drink less. People without some sort of an alcohol problem don't have to try to not drink. They simply don't dink like you wouldn't eat a particular food if you knew it was bad for you. They don't think about it or struggle through the evening. If you find yourself thinking about it all the time...you might be sliding down that slope."

I'm not calling anyone out - lord knows I love me some booze. But reading through this thread my Drs words kept ringing in my ears.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I have visited this forum frequently looking for the dry January thread. Observed from a distance the past several years and now ready to participate. Already 6 days in and adjusting well. I work a 24 on, 48 off schedule, so every 3rd day was already an alcohol free day, but I’m guessing my wife hasn’t had an alcohol free day in over a year. We’re participating together. We’ve already made an exception for her birthday later this month though.
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People need to re read the thread title. There is way too many people justifying their choice to have some alcohol. Its not "drink less" January its "no alcohol"/ This morning I poured out some wine from a partially drunken bottle from the holidays. Glad I did. I'm hoping to get the strength to empty the house of everything by the end of the month.
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commendatore wrote:
I’ve no plans to join anyone on this journey, but I’m curious. For those of you who report huge improvements in sleep, workouts, etc., how much were you drinking beforehand?

For me is isn’t how much, but how often, and the answer is EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. That’s what I hope to mentally reset this month.
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Not to speak to others intentions, but my motivation is really 3 fold. 1. it is my magic bullet to drop lbs. Cut the booze and I instantly have a caloric deficit to my prior diet. 2. A self check that I can stop, I have power over it. 3. A reset of habits from the holidays, as I tend to imbibe much more frequently during the holidays with family / friends constantly around, football darn near every day. Need to break the Pavlovian responses.

I enjoy a good wine and a good beer, and this helps me keep that in moderation.

Thank you. You summed up my motivations exactly! Good luck to us!
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Please never organize a slowtwitch no-caffeine month.
I would find that a million times harder than not drinking.

I dont notice any physical cravings for alcohol (mental for sure) - but if I dont get like 3 cups of coffee in by mid-day I feel like garbage
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Please never organize a slowtwitch no-caffeine month.
I would find that a million times harder than not drinking.

I dont notice any physical cravings for alcohol (mental for sure) - but if I dont get like 3 cups of coffee in by mid-day I feel like garbage

I have a serious caffeine addiction, but I went 3 weeks cold turkey. I didn't get horrible headaches, but I noticed that 6 hours of sleep and trying to fit in two-a-days plus a full day's work = not enjoyable.

My first double shot after 3 weeks was the closest to a religious experience that I've ever had. It was glorious. Now, I have to drink 2 cups + a shot of espresso in the morning just to feel normal.

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X 1000. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in exactly 12 years and have zero regrets. All Pro's zero Con's. My life and training have been so much better. Despite some of the bullshit studies on red wine, the truth is there is zero positives to alcohol. It's one-hundred-percent poison and does not belong in the human body. Want to relax, drink some chamomile tea. :-)

Not entirely true. There’s plenty to support the community and social aspect in traditional society to enjoying a beverage or two with those close to you.

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cloy wrote:
y_nigel wrote:
Please never organize a slowtwitch no-caffeine month.
I would find that a million times harder than not drinking.

I dont notice any physical cravings for alcohol (mental for sure) - but if I dont get like 3 cups of coffee in by mid-day I feel like garbage


I have a serious caffeine addiction, but I went 3 weeks cold turkey. I didn't get horrible headaches, but I noticed that 6 hours of sleep and trying to fit in two-a-days plus a full day's work = not enjoyable.

My first double shot after 3 weeks was the closest to a religious experience that I've ever had. It was glorious. Now, I have to drink 2 cups + a shot of espresso in the morning just to feel normal.

Omg I got a nespresso for Christmas. Such a step up from drip coffee.
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I find it super hard to give up something when my goal is so far away. Typically I go sober a month or so before my â€A’ race, because that’s the point I really need to focus. I’m doing IMCA this year so mid July I’ll clean myself up. Makes that post race beer extra special. Mmmm.
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Please never organize a slowtwitch no-caffeine month.
I would find that a million times harder than not drinking.

I dont notice any physical cravings for alcohol (mental for sure) - but if I dont get like 3 cups of coffee in by mid-day I feel like garbage
Ohh I have definitely done that. I went from 4-5 cups of black tar hospital coffee a day to zero and am still caffeine-free over a decade later. Not by choice, as the stuff makes my heart want to explode now, but all the same. I can be the one everyone swears at while still being a perky squirrel.

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Six days into the year without alcohol! Hope you’ve had your epiphany and found your reasons to gather strength to make it through the duration (or to pick up where you left off).

Another easy day. Busy AF. Would have liked to unwind with a glass of wine on this chilly Monday night but I’ve got ten miles of reasons to keep sleeping like a rockstar tonight.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, 6!
I even bbq’d without an IPA.
Small victories!!
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Yesterday was hard. I had one of those days at work with boring, gruesome paperwork then more paperwork and then a side of paperwork. It was funny because a) it was actually hard during the day and b) once I got home I was fine.
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There was piece on Morning Edition of NPR (Hey, spotted the libtard!) yesterday about No Alcohol January. The woman they interviewed said that she was going to use the month to improve her triathlon--and they mentioned that she was "competitive"

I thought that was pretty darn cool.

I went 10 days dry for Christmas, partially because I needed all of the "filter" I could muster to be around my BIL and not say something stupid. Right now I'm working on a reduced consumption and need to continue to improve this portion of my life.

Thank you.
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Per wrote:
There was piece on Morning Edition of NPR (Hey, spotted the libtard!) yesterday about No Alcohol January. The woman they interviewed said that she was going to use the month to improve her triathlon--and they mentioned that she was "competitive"

I thought that was pretty darn cool.

I went 10 days dry for Christmas, partially because I needed all of the "filter" I could muster to be around my BIL and not say something stupid. Right now I'm working on a reduced consumption and need to continue to improve this portion of my life.

Thank you.

I feel entirely seen.

Wasn't me ;) Although, I DID work at the UofR for many years...

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, newbie here, can I join in 'No alcohol January', starting from today?!
I don't drink a lot, mainly red wine after work, before tea etc. but it's gradually crept up from 1 glass of red wine, to 1 glass of wine plus a small glass of port, and last night was a fair sized glass of port!
Now this may not seem a lot, but it's got to the stage where it's nearly all I think about, I generally work my life around allowing me to drink after work, or around late afternoon at weekends and holidays.
I don't tend to drink alcohol after training, so I make sure I fit my training in earlier in the day to accommodate my drinking. I'm not really a morning person, so training early before work sucks at times, especially now it's winter.
I can't remember the last day I haven't had a drink. I'm hoping to break the hold those few drinks have on my life right now. Today(7th) will hopefully be the first of many alcohol free days.
Many thanks
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I'm not doing "January". I picked a goal I think I can do that will reach a more sustainable equilibrium overall for me personally.

I've chosen to keep a tally, literally on paper with a red pen, of how many days I can accumulate in 2020 without having any. Goal is 180 days. Idea is to treat it as a treat, not just something you do once the kids are in bed and you're watching Netflix with the wife.

And no "saving up" for the other days. The other days are same volume or less than before.

I think 180 days on the tally chart is totally doable.
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Dr_Cupcake wrote:

I feel entirely seen.

Wasn't me ;) Although, I DID work at the UofR for many years...

Curious - "UofR" = ??

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University of Rochester in upstate NY maybe?
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University of Rochester in upstate NY maybe?

Ding ding ding.

She was pretty spot on with the assessment of life there. Winters up there are pretty grim. Not a ton of snow but very gray and cold, and people all take refuge in the bars. I used to live even FURTHER north in NY (30min south of the St. Lawrence) and for a town of 1200, we had 7 bars, which was a bit overkill but when it's -30 out there's not much else to do.

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Gotcha. I was thinking maybe University of Richmond. I'm a Spider (RC '89) and thought maybe I'd found another out there.

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Figured it had to be either Rochester or Richmond. BTW - I'm on board for dry Jan. Definitely needed to dry out after December! My version includes 2 'exception days' - one of which, I plan to cash in on 1/13 for the championship game. So far, EZPZ!

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Winters up there are pretty grim. Not a ton of snow but very gray and cold, and people all take refuge in the bars.

When I worked at Campbell's our VP came from Kodak, and the first year he was there he sent us up there 3 or 4 times to observe their "Best Practices" to incorporate at The Soup

I don't think I saw one clear, sunny day up there

I do remember a very nice restaurant near the water in an old brownstone or loft or something --- might've been a mill way long ago, perhaps?

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Winters up there are pretty grim. Not a ton of snow but very gray and cold, and people all take refuge in the bars.


I do remember a very nice restaurant near the water in an old brownstone or loft or something --- might've been a mill way long ago, perhaps?

Richardson's Canal House?

I bet you it wasn't the Elmwood Inn or Jeremiah's Tavern, haha.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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[Richardson's Canal House?

I bet you it wasn't the Elmwood Inn or Jeremiah's Tavern, haha.

Nah, it was "downtown" - such as downtown Rochester is ... it might've been this place; or some iteration of it, from years ago

https://www.panevinoontheriver175.com/

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [charlie1980] [ In reply to ]
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been doing Alcohol experiment for last bit its quite good at helping you assess your relationship with booze and makes 30 days go faster while learning a bit about yourself.
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I'm not doing "January". I picked a goal I think I can do that will reach a more sustainable equilibrium overall for me personally.

I've chosen to keep a tally, literally on paper with a red pen, of how many days I can accumulate in 2020 without having any. Goal is 180 days. Idea is to treat it as a treat, not just something you do once the kids are in bed and you're watching Netflix with the wife.

And no "saving up" for the other days. The other days are same volume or less than before.

I think 180 days on the tally chart is totally doable.

Interesting take, I like that! Good luck!
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been doing Alcohol experiment for last bit its quite good at helping you assess your relationship with booze and makes 30 days go faster while learning a bit about yourself.

I'm also not doing sober January because I think I should be drinking less. I'm trying a month of sobriety to reset my tolerance for alcohol. Lets call it a taper for the Superbowl Party.
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End of week one! Whoop whoop! Congrats to making it just over 22% of the way there!

Today was pretty easy. Alcohol usage is definitely a situational for me. Today’s long run, followed by pretty wafting snowflakes shutting down the DC metro area made me whine just a bit at this dry month because my bottles of single barrel are collecting dust instead of being cracked open to have our on the porch under a wool blanket. The feeling passed pretty quickly about a couple of hours ago, when I started getting jazzed for another night of good sleep. Here’s hoping tomorrow’s long day capped with a booze-heavy social event goes smoothly.

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Hi, newbie here, can I join in 'No alcohol January', starting from today?!
I don't drink a lot, mainly red wine after work, before tea etc. but it's gradually crept up from 1 glass of red wine, to 1 glass of wine plus a small glass of port, and last night was a fair sized glass of port!
Now this may not seem a lot, but it's got to the stage where it's nearly all I think about, I generally work my life around allowing me to drink after work, or around late afternoon at weekends and holidays.
I don't tend to drink alcohol after training, so I make sure I fit my training in earlier in the day to accommodate my drinking. I'm not really a morning person, so training early before work sucks at times, especially now it's winter.
I can't remember the last day I haven't had a drink. I'm hoping to break the hold those few drinks have on my life right now. Today(7th) will hopefully be the first of many alcohol free days.
Many thanks

Of course. For various reasons I started on the 7th so it will be nice to have someone else hanging around for an extra week. Actually, my plan is to shoot for 60 days.
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I hadn't replied on the thread yet, but I'm in this year. Tempted today to get a bottle of wine, but held back.

One week in, and feeling good. Sleeping better, resting heart rate down, and going well so far.
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[/quote]

Of course. For various reasons I started on the 7th so it will be nice to have someone else hanging around for an extra week. Actually, my plan is to shoot for 60 days.[/quote]
Just through my first day, all good. Went home after work and got changed and went straight on the turbo trainer for a short spin. This is the time I normally drink, but found it pretty easy in the end.
All day at work, whenever I thought of a drink, I purposely thought of doing a turbo session instead. By the time I got home I was itching to get on the bike! Hope it continues.
Well done everyone on your successes so far.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Kula] [ In reply to ]
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Day 4 for me so far... feeling really positive. Cravings have pretty much gone (until this weekend I suppose) but I have already dropped a couple of pounds, am sleeping like a baby and feeling strong for my morning workouts which is great.
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Trimeon wrote:
been doing Alcohol experiment for last bit its quite good at helping you assess your relationship with booze and makes 30 days go faster while learning a bit about yourself.

I'm also not doing sober January because I think I should be drinking less. I'm trying a month of sobriety to reset my tolerance for alcohol. Lets call it a taper for the Superbowl Party.

I do a sober 6-7 weeks a couple times/yr. I started 12/14 and plan to carry this one through 1/31. Unfortunately, I'm pretty binary with alcohol - it's either Yes or No, and Yes means one turns to ten real quick. Taking several breaks throughout the year prevents me from building a tolerance that will allow me to really do damage to myself and keeps the ten to maybe 4 to 6. Also don't drink at all from Sunday through Thursday of any week to try and help with this also.
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"I feel sorry for people who don't drink, because when they wake up in the morning that as good as they are going to feel all day"

-W.C. Fields
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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OK, this seems like a much better goal for me as well. I like that plan. Also, I think it will in general keep my overall consumption for the year down. Especially since my biggest negative on alcohol is useless calories I could probably cut more weight overall than just giving up 30 days in January. Count me in for this and I can count 6 tallies so far for the year.

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Bifff wrote:
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink, because when they wake up in the morning that as good as they are going to feel all day"

-W.C. Fields

Also attributed to Dorothy Parker, Jack Lemmon, or half of the Rat Pack

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [boobooaboo] [ In reply to ]
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BT_DreamChaser wrote:
X 1000. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in exactly 12 years and have zero regrets. All Pro's zero Con's. My life and training have been so much better. Despite some of the bullshit studies on red wine, the truth is there is zero positives to alcohol. It's one-hundred-percent poison and does not belong in the human body. Want to relax, drink some chamomile tea. :-)


Not entirely true. There’s plenty to support the community and social aspect in traditional society to enjoying a beverage or two with those close to you.

No one's ever had a social event without alcohol. Just impossible.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Vols] [ In reply to ]
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Vols wrote:
Bifff wrote:
Trimeon wrote:
been doing Alcohol experiment for last bit its quite good at helping you assess your relationship with booze and makes 30 days go faster while learning a bit about yourself.


I'm also not doing sober January because I think I should be drinking less. I'm trying a month of sobriety to reset my tolerance for alcohol. Lets call it a taper for the Superbowl Party.


I do a sober 6-7 weeks a couple times/yr. I started 12/14 and plan to carry this one through 1/31. Unfortunately, I'm pretty binary with alcohol - it's either Yes or No, and Yes means one turns to ten real quick. Taking several breaks throughout the year prevents me from building a tolerance that will allow me to really do damage to myself and keeps the ten to maybe 4 to 6. Also don't drink at all from Sunday through Thursday of any week to try and help with this also.

Ha, this is similar to how I am. It's weird, I'll have a couple of cravings when I stop for a period of time, but I can generally handle it without trying too hard. When I'm on, it's beers every night, though I'm more of a 1 turns to 4 kinda of person, I don't think I've made it to 10 since college. I make up for it though since I don't take Sunday through Thursday off.

It's interesting to read about everyone's experience/challenges/take on No Alcohol January! Definitely all over the board.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Andres] [ In reply to ]
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Going to what is essentially a sports bar to have dinner & watch my team play basketball tonight. They are having a terrible year, which is going to make it even harder to not have a beer or two. I'll make it though.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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We’re in week two territory now! Over a quarter of the way there. Excellent effort by all!

Today was hard. Long tough day at work, stressful drive home, and then sat in a very heated book club with my lush neighbors for several hours. Thankfully I was not alone in dryness- my neighbor does whole30 every January- so that ended up being a silver lining. I also ate way too much sugar for dinner in lieu of my giant glass of book club red wine. Tomorrow will be easier!

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Going to what is essentially a sports bar to have dinner & watch my team play basketball tonight. They are having a terrible year, which is going to make it even harder to not have a beer or two. I'll make it though.

Good luck! Stay strong!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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japarker24 wrote:
Going to what is essentially a sports bar to have dinner & watch my team play basketball tonight. They are having a terrible year, which is going to make it even harder to not have a beer or two. I'll make it though.

Good luck! Stay strong!

Thank you! My team lost again but I didn't cave! Still totally dry for the month so far!

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Nice! Glad you had some support.

Thankfully, I’m on cruise control. Weekdays have proven easier than I hoped. Doesn’t hurt that I’ve been going to bed at 9:30 as I’ve also started the 5:30 am workouts again.

Double digits tomorrow people!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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We’re in week two territory now! Over a quarter of the way there. Excellent effort by all!

Today was hard. Long tough day at work, stressful drive home, and then sat in a very heated book club with my lush neighbors for several hours. Thankfully I was not alone in dryness- my neighbor does whole30 every January- so that ended up being a silver lining. I also ate way too much sugar for dinner in lieu of my giant glass of book club red wine. Tomorrow will be easier!

Don't know about you, but when I do that, I wake up with a mild hangover!!! Very similar symptoms. I used the excuse that I wasn't drinking to do my share of polishing off the leftover holiday sweets, and wow do I feel it the next day.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [djhuff7] [ In reply to ]
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Similar to carb loading, you need to drink a lot of water w/ all of the sugar or otherwise your body will pull water from other places to store the glycogen, leaving you feeling dehydrated (similar to being dehydrated after drinking).
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [mgreer] [ In reply to ]
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started on the 27th of December so was happy to get through NYE's without any cravings - keep it up folks!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Dry-Uary is here again! 9 days in and no problem. If we get a home playoff game next Sunday, big problem.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Happy day nine to us! Almost 30% of the way there! 30% is the hardest amount for me to deal with for anything (swim, run, dryness, etc) so this is a good milestone cluster of days.

I am so tired today. It made the craving a zero out of ten. I cannot wait for delicious sleep tonight.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Yes and onto our second weekend.

Since winter is NOT coming (to NY anyway) any apres ski temptations have been eliminated for me.

Looks like some outdoor cycling is a real possibility (60 friggin degrees ?!?!?!). I'm starting to see the scale move in the right direction and that sure keeps the motivation up!

Let's go everyone. Keep yourselves busy and your mind distracted and we'll be through our second weekend! We got this!!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Yes and onto our second weekend.

Since winter is NOT coming (to NY anyway) any apres ski temptations have been eliminated for me.

Looks like some outdoor cycling is a real possibility (60 friggin degrees ?!?!?!). I'm starting to see the scale move in the right direction and that sure keeps the motivation up!

Let's go everyone. Keep yourselves busy and your mind distracted and we'll be through our second weekend! We got this!!

Thats right, stay occupied and do some other productive things! Going to work on my car tonight, lots of little things need to be done.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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TGIF teetotalers! Over 30% of the way there now!

Today was pretty easy. I slept like a rock last night, had my very wet cider at our local place tonight, and am looking forward to another great night of sleep before a long ride tomorrow.

One of the more challenging aspects of this month for me is that the hubs is NOT on board. He should be, which is another story altogether, but it makes things less than fun at times. For example, we made pizza for dinner and always use a beer crust recipe. He did it without thinking earlier today, and then whinged that it was "JUST a small amount" in the dough. So I had to make my own after all. And then bring said pizza to said local beer farm for a night out. It's never easy but I made that concession years ago when I started doing this. I warned him that I'm tired and cranky and to be a bit more considerate.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Bifff] [ In reply to ]
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Renewed focus on diet and attempting no alcohol but something had to give so I popped a top. It all must fit the in the calorie budget but I need some joy in my life. Ha! Also 1st attempt to post a pic here employing all my limited IT skillz which may fail.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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For example, we made pizza for dinner and always use a beer crust recipe...So I had to make my own after all.


Dang, you go all in. Since alcohol is cooked off in baking (at least per my understanding), I would have given that a pass, like I would an NA beer.

But I like where your head's at. No compromises.

I'm going well, no issue so far.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Still dry for the year. :-)

1st event of the year today: mountain bike race!!

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Today was hard. Long tough day at work, stressful drive home, and then sat in a very heated book club with my lush neighbors for several hours.

(since Jan 5 for me, waited til after the "holiday week")

One interesting thing for me is to observe how easily we find an excuse for alcohol: it was a stressful day, need a glass of wine. Or, it was a good day, need a glass of wine to celebrate. Monday Night Football is on, good reason to open a beer.

There's always a reason.

I then find that the less I do that, the less I want to do that (find a reason to drink). But it takes longer to get to that point than it does to go the other direction. Once I start again, it's easy to drink with regularity.

Also finding, which I had forgotten about, how I tend to go to bed earlier. Not just getting better sleep, but feeling like I want to go to bed earlier (which is a bit counter-intuitive).

Thanks for doing this thread -- interesting reading, and props to all.
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Speaking of which.. I've been thoroughly impressed with Athletic Brewing's offerings. My local beer place can barely keep it in stock, and the reviews on beer sites are surprisingly good.

Tried their Run Wild IPA last night and it was surprisingly good. Light and crisp like a session IPA but still has decent flavor.

I've been doing fine so far but I had a particularly shitty day at work yesterday. I had to give a younger employee a performance review that was a bit of a reality check for him, then ended the day by firing someone under very difficult circumstances. By the time I left the office I was jonesing for a beer. Instead of stopping at the liquor store I stopped off at the pool and channeled my energy into a surprisingly good swim session, which almost never happens for me.

My biggest goal this month is to recalibrate so that one or two beers doesn't always become three or four. I was on the fence about drinking non-alcoholic beer because in a way it seems to undermine that goal, but I actually think it can help in the recalibration process. Having a couple non-alcoholic beers allowed me to enjoy the taste and get part of the experience without the alcohol feedback loop that makes me always want more, so hopefully it can help develop better habits. We'll see.

Great job everyone and thanks for supporting each other.
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trail wrote:
Dr_Cupcake wrote:
For example, we made pizza for dinner and always use a beer crust recipe...So I had to make my own after all.


Dang, you go all in. Since alcohol is cooked off in baking (at least per my understanding), I would have given that a pass, like I would an NA beer.

But I like where your head's at. No compromises.

I'm going well, no issue so far.

Nope, total myth. There’s still booze in your boozy food. He knows that too, which is why I was all OH COME ON about it.
And yes, when I put my mind to something, I don’t mess around :)

Glad it’s been a good month for you too!’

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Still dry for the year. :-)

1st event of the year today: mountain bike race!!

Woop woop! Get it!!

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Still going strong. This can be tough for retirees as well. It is super easy to incorporate evening drinking into the daily routine when you no longer have to worry about getting up early for work. But I love my mornings and appreciate them even more with a clear head and well rested body.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [indianacyclist] [ In reply to ]
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IndianaCyclist, thanks so much for mentioning that book (This Naked Mind). It is early to say it, but it might well have changed my life. 30 days seems like a layup now.
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Dr_Cupcake wrote:
Today was hard. Long tough day at work, stressful drive home, and then sat in a very heated book club with my lush neighbors for several hours.

(since Jan 5 for me, waited til after the "holiday week")

One interesting thing for me is to observe how easily we find an excuse for alcohol: it was a stressful day, need a glass of wine. Or, it was a good day, need a glass of wine to celebrate. Monday Night Football is on, good reason to open a beer.

There's always a reason.

I then find that the less I do that, the less I want to do that (find a reason to drink). But it takes longer to get to that point than it does to go the other direction. Once I start again, it's easy to drink with regularity.

Also finding, which I had forgotten about, how I tend to go to bed earlier. Not just getting better sleep, but feeling like I want to go to bed earlier (which is a bit counter-intuitive).

Thanks for doing this thread -- interesting reading, and props to all.

Spot on!

It’s both comforting and inspiring to have others share their views.

Thanks and I second the shoutout to the good Dr. C!
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Nope, total myth. There’s still booze in your boozy food.

Interesting! Partial myth. Sounds like it does evaporate out, but large fractions can remain. Glad I learned that.
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https://cooking.stackexchange.com/...cooking-away-alcohol links out to a couple credible source (USDA, America's test kitchen) if you want more detailed figured (e.g., if you had some okay threshold for transient consumption). Worth reading the comments as they address a few points about calculating the final quantity left.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm out - had a beer last night. My doctor's office f'ed up my anxiety meds, I'd already worked out so that wasn't a great option, so I resorted to alcohol. Which is fine.

Carry on, y'all are doing great

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I'm out - had a beer last night. My doctor's office f'ed up my anxiety meds, I'd already worked out so that wasn't a great option, so I resorted to alcohol. Which is fine.

Carry on, y'all are doing great

Where can I send a flaming bag of poo to your Doctor's office? I'm sorry, that's just awful and should never have happened. You're still an absolute rockstar in my book. And you're more than welcome to jump back on the wagon that's moving at a 1/31 day/month pace :)

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No need to be out, take a 5 day dispensation-- in case of force majure events such as this you can still continue on but you have to tack on 5 days at the end (so victory lap on Feb 5th).
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Happy eleventh! We are firmly over a third of the way there, yay!

Another easy day for me. I slept the EFF in this morning. I really needed to catch up on the sleep my week robbed of me and thankfully I had some great Zs.

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Hello all

Also booze-free since the start of the year: had a bad year last year, got injured, got sick, had a bad time at work, put on a lot of weight and (like many here) got to the point where I couldn't remember the last time I'd not had a drink in the evening.

Am now training hard and watching my diet, and am planning to stay clean until I've lost 5 Kg... so its going be more than January for me. Well done everyone for making it this far and keep it up. Am hoping that ditching maybe three bottles of red wine a week will help me get the lard off, and also that I can reset my drinking habits from "every night" to "only occasionally".

Rob
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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After a few years off triathlon, I remembered this thread out of nowhere. I signed back up to slowtwitch just to be part of this. I'm late to the party, but probably closer to the tip of the spear that needs to do this. I'll be starting today, although late.
Didn't there used to be a private FB group also?
Looking forward to getting back in triathlons this season, and healthy. Registered for a 70.3 and committed now.
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BrianB wrote:
Dr_Cupcake wrote:

Today was hard. Long tough day at work, stressful drive home, and then sat in a very heated book club with my lush neighbors for several hours.


(since Jan 5 for me, waited til after the "holiday week")

One interesting thing for me is to observe how easily we find an excuse for alcohol: it was a stressful day, need a glass of wine. Or, it was a good day, need a glass of wine to celebrate. Monday Night Football is on, good reason to open a beer.

There's always a reason.

I then find that the less I do that, the less I want to do that (find a reason to drink). But it takes longer to get to that point than it does to go the other direction. Once I start again, it's easy to drink with regularity.

Also finding, which I had forgotten about, how I tend to go to bed earlier. Not just getting better sleep, but feeling like I want to go to bed earlier (which is a bit counter-intuitive).

Thanks for doing this thread -- interesting reading, and props to all.


This sums me up really well.


So far so good. I do find myself drinking a lot of coffee after 8pm which is unusual for me, but I have such a bad coffee-habit that it doesn't keep me up.

It will be tough, today, getting through the Packers-Seahawks game without a couple, but its like you said about how it gets easier once you get the ball rolling. Now I just need to find the want to amp up the training that WI winters seem to just suck out of you.
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So far so good. I do find myself drinking a lot of coffee after 8pm which is unusual for me, but I have such a bad coffee-habit that it doesn't keep me up.

It will be tough, today, getting through the Packers-Seahawks game without a couple, but its like you said about how it gets easier once you get the ball rolling. Now I just need to find the want to amp up the training that WI winters seem to just suck out of you.

I've been drinking a lot of tea (green/ginger or decaf chai) in the evenings which has had the added bonus of keeping me more hydrated than normal.

I almost cracked last night. Did something yesterday (while working on bike) that resulted in sore/spasming side of neck and upper back, so was just trying to position on the heating pad ... playoff games on ... and some wine would have been nice ...

But I paused, paid attention to breathing, waited for that desire to pass. That is something I've picked up from starting to do yoga classes, about 2 months now.
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Football playoffs were too much pressure yesterday. đź

Last year I went alcohol free up to the Super Bowl. This year not so much.

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In since January 6th and second time I'm doing this. Like last time, I'm disappointed that two so-called friends have made snarky responses upon learning I was doing this. I certainly don't need their support or blessing to do this, but am surprised that they would belittle my attempts. Both friends, while having many good qualities, are functional alcoholics though.
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See, this is where is comes in handy to cheer for a team that has no super bowl destiny ever again :D

Jump back in with us!

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I’m sorry they’re being turds about this. Maybe it’s time to re-evaluate your friendship with them if they can’t be supportive of you.

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In since January 6th and second time I'm doing this. Like last time, I'm disappointed that two so-called friends have made snarky responses upon learning I was doing this. I certainly don't need their support or blessing to do this, but am surprised that they would belittle my attempts. Both friends, while having many good qualities, are functional alcoholics though.

I’ve done this for going on 6 years. It’s starting to be more accepted as Drynuary becomes more common but I will say there is a lot of latent hostility, particularly from people who might potentially need a little breather and don’t like how this makes them self-reflect a bit on their own usage. I struggle a lot with my own consumption so for me it’s a good attempt to reset/re-balance each year.
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Dr_Cupcake wrote:
See, this is where is comes in handy to cheer for a team that has no super bowl destiny ever again :D

Jump back in with us!

The reality is that I don’t drink much at all anyway. I don’t drink during the week beyond some rare occasion. Weekends might be 10-12 beers split between Friday-Sunday.

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In since January 6th and second time I'm doing this. Like last time, I'm disappointed that two so-called friends have made snarky responses upon learning I was doing this. I certainly don't need their support or blessing to do this, but am surprised that they would belittle my attempts. Both friends, while having many good qualities, are functional alcoholics though.

Consider the possibility that they both know that they themselves should be doing something too and they are really being defensive. It's what I might have done myself if I was feeling guilty or concerned about my own behaviour... I'd like to think that now I'm older and a bit more self aware I'd no longer behave like that but I'm probably kidding myself.

Either way don't let them grind you down.
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parrothead1 wrote:

So far so good. I do find myself drinking a lot of coffee after 8pm which is unusual for me, but I have such a bad coffee-habit that it doesn't keep me up.

It will be tough, today, getting through the Packers-Seahawks game without a couple, but its like you said about how it gets easier once you get the ball rolling. Now I just need to find the want to amp up the training that WI winters seem to just suck out of you.


I've been drinking a lot of tea (green/ginger or decaf chai) in the evenings which has had the added bonus of keeping me more hydrated than normal.

I almost cracked last night. Did something yesterday (while working on bike) that resulted in sore/spasming side of neck and upper back, so was just trying to position on the heating pad ... playoff games on ... and some wine would have been nice ...

But I paused, paid attention to breathing, waited for that desire to pass. That is something I've picked up from starting to do yoga classes, about 2 months now.

I tried the tea thing when I did this 2 years ago and I just didnt like the taste enough to go with it. Sparkling water did the trick pretty well...and, as you mentioned, you get the bonus of being well hydrated. For football today it will be a NA beer...didn't have time to look for any decent NA's so I bought whatever I could find at the grocery store. At least its not Bitburger...I remember that sucking.
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Elvis Runner wrote:
In since January 6th and second time I'm doing this. Like last time, I'm disappointed that two so-called friends have made snarky responses upon learning I was doing this. I certainly don't need their support or blessing to do this, but am surprised that they would belittle my attempts. Both friends, while having many good qualities, are functional alcoholics though.


I've never met an alcoholic that knows what true friendship means. Most substance abusers are so wrapped up in their addiction that everything and everyone comes second and sadly family (kids and spouses) and friends are usually the ones that aren't appreciated. It sounds horrible, but the alcoholics I've met are the most selfish people I've encountered. Most of these people are self destructive and those tendencies can project onto those closest to them. Do what is best for you and pay no attention to naysayers. I think what you're doing is great.
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I like doing a 'Dry January'! Doing it now and I love filling that desire for a glass of wine or beer in the evening with sparkling water or other drinks. Currently drinking a homemade watermelon lime slushie and it's way more refreshing and hydrating!
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On the twelfth day of dry January, my forum gave to meeee...

A full and easy day of dryness!

Hope everyone had a great weekend. Onto 13!

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A great weekend indeed! And that’s two down, two to go.

Mental battles becoming less frequent and easier to suppress.

Stay the course everyone. We’re about to turn a corner!
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I am still in. What a shitty year 2019 was. Ongoing back injury turned into nerve damage in my leg and debilitating pain. Might not ever compete again, but I am just trying to get healthy enough to do normal life stuff. Haven’t really run in 2 years. Naturally, I drank a ton.

So far so good in January. No booze. Had a trigger point shot in my back and felt good enough to knock out a 4 mile run yesterday in the snow. Down a few pounds. I am also definitely more “present” for the wife and kids.

Honestly, staying away from booze makes the daily back pain a little more tolerable. But I was seriously craving an IPA after the run yesterday.

Thanks for this thread. Good to have support...
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I've chosen to keep a tally, literally on paper with a red pen, of how many days I can accumulate in 2020 without having any. Goal is 180 days. Idea is to treat it as a treat

I like that, too. I'm in. I am "doing January" (so far, so good), so that will give me a nice 31 day head start.
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I'm sorry 2019 was so rough for you. Let's burn our calendars together, mmkay?

Glad you're on the up and up so far this year!

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I'm trying justify the 30 days without alcohol as part of the periodization cycle. We do it for the actual training why not do it for alcohol as well?
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I just had a potential double whammy:
1) A friend I don't see often just invited me for some after work cocktails &
2) I got some GREAT, unexpected news at work.

1 was easy enough to pass on.
2 would ordinarily be reason to celebrate with a couple of IPA's. Interestingly, as I sit here now, that doesn't seem like the right reason to end my streak. It doesn't hurt that my wife doesn't drink so I'd be imbibing alone. Is that even a celebration?

As someone posted earlier, there is always a reason (to drink). I hope to remain steadfast tonight in the face of unexpected temptation.
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You can do it! Look at some shiny toys online instead :)

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Happy day thirteen! Not for the faint of triskadecaphobes, easy for us in the battle together.

Another easy day for me. Also a big revelation for physiology today- my constant craving of all things carbohydrate has dwindled down to “I’ll eat what I need as a bare macro minimum”. Been craving fresh veggies and fruits and lean proteins instead. I’ve been allowing myself 1oz of super dark (like 80%) chocolate as a dessert but don’t really feel like I need to supplement the lack of booze anymore. That’s a first in all the dry spells I’ve done.

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Yum, chocolate! Good for you.

I made it! It’s those first 10 minutes after I walk in the door. But I shared my news with my family then settled in to my new normal weekday routine.

Steady as she goes.
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Nice work! It's so much easier with the more support surrounding you.

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TiDriver wrote:
Gotcha. I was thinking maybe University of Richmond. I'm a Spider (RC '89) and thought maybe I'd found another out there.

RC '90 here, but I don't think I knew you! I kept a low profile, was GDI, lived mostly off campus, and was abroad in 88-89.


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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Great job to all of you! I'm a very light drinker ... I don't even know if I've had any alcohol in January. I used to have a few drinks a week, but I more or less stopped when my wife quit drinking.

Her experience: misery for the first six weeks or so, angry that she had stopped, and not at all understanding why some people are happy to have stopped. She felt bad physically and mentally. Then around six or eight weeks in, she started feeling really great, and it was like a light came on. She says it's one of the best things she's ever done.

So if you're trying dry January and think it sucks, consider a little more time. It does take some folks 6-8 weeks to get over the hump.


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Excellent! I figured there had to be a Spider or two around here. I was back on campus during homecoming weekend - place has changed a ton.

I did cash in one of my "exception" days for the big game last night and it happened to coincide with the release of Bell's HopSlam IPA. Back on the wagon now for the rest of Jan.

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TWO WEEKS. DONE. BOOM. Getting ready to fire up that Bon Jovi song for later this week. Great work everyone! I hope today is easier that day one.

Late night meeting for my cycling club. Wanted to grab a drink with my fellow board member afterwards, but sleep thankfully won and now I’m home and about to fall asleep.

Tomorrow is going to SUCK. Major dental work, after my long run (day off for said dental work so why not?). It’ll be a hide the bourbon kind of night.

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Well, I hope you enjoy the run, endure the dentist, and don't find the bourbon!
Some days the suck-o-meter is worse than others. But you got this!!

My date with the Dr. (as noted in post #29) is tomorrow. The suckage level will be determined by the results.

Regardless, we soldier on.
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Here we go on Day 15/start of week 3. Finally starting to shed a little of the holiday weight - and back down a belt notch! Hope everyone is feeling good.
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Here we go on Day 15/start of week 3. Finally starting to shed a little of the holiday weight - and back down a belt notch! Hope everyone is feeling good.

Nice, congrats!

I hit a small milestone myself this morning - down 4lbs - moving in the right direction. Sure provides more motivation.
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Well back to being sober. Wife and I had a cruise from the 9 to the 13 with the kids so we did drink on the boat. It was a planned exception, so we’ll keep going until the 5th of February at least. Proud that we drank reasonably though. 2 bottles and a few purchased drinks over 4 nights. Didn’t get buzzed a single time which is unusual for us.
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Going on 20 days here - just got back from a huge industry conference in Miami where it is basically a boondoogle. Did a nice job of just avoiding it and having productive Breakfast / lunch meetings (vs. dinner / drink meetings). Still feel great resolve, enjoying every morning as a fresh morning. Hangovers were always rare, but even feeling a bit "groggy" got old. I'm over that crap!
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My plan of 180 "dry" days for 2020 is still going according to plan. I like the long term lifestyle change it's already having.

I can say "nah, that's fine, no thanks" or I can say "sure, just today a little". Instead of almost every single day having something.

I'm on track at 50% of my days dry for Jan. I think it may be reasonable to stretch goal for 200 dry days for 2020.

Already enjoying better sleep and just a feeling of freedom in the evenings of choice. Being able to say "I don't need that today" is great.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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This year has surprisingly been easy. It's just not on my mind at this point. It really helped over the weekend that my wife had stuff to do both Saturday and Sunday and if I wanted to get my workout in, I had to be up and going by 6AM, so both nights I was looking to get in the bed rather than sit on the couch.

Strange thing is my wife is NOT doing dry Jan, but it is not affecting me at all, I have worn out the Soda Stream though, need a new CO2 bottle already.
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sscott43 wrote:
Here we go on Day 15/start of week 3. Finally starting to shed a little of the holiday weight - and back down a belt notch! Hope everyone is feeling good.

Yikes already the 15th! Time flies when you're having fun...
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [djhuff7] [ In reply to ]
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 I have worn out the Soda Stream though, need a new CO2 bottle already. I second that, also gone through a few cases of Perrier, Pelligrino, Gerolsteiner.
The weekends are the most intense, already thinking about drinking at 10am until 6pm & football. Staying busy & trying not to think about it. Weeknights are okay getting through the Hell hours of 4-7pm then it's a breeze.
Sleeping better, waking up like I have a hang over, completely exhausted from sleeping, but the minute I am up it feels great clear head, body is ready to GO ! .
Plan on doing this for most of 2020, I like the idea of racing, then after the race a few beers,( NO HARD LIQUOR ) then nothing for another month etc.
What I want to know is how much did you all drink before you stopped, I easily could finish a handle in 2 1/2 days of Vodka or Costco brand in 2 days. with only a slight buzz, these drinks when friends tried them called them Elephant tranquilizers.

Right now no sugar, bread and pasta all month compliments the no alcohol.

1/2 way there keeping it DRY
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What I want to know is how much did you all drink before you stopped, I easily could finish a handle in 2 1/2 days of Vodka or Costco brand in 2 days. with only a slight buzz, these drinks when friends tried them called them Elephant tranquilizers.

I’ve been a 2 to 3 beers a day guy for 10+ years. Rarely more than 4, except on a warm Saturday it might be a 12 pack of domestic cheap beer.

Although I almost never get drunk (been a few years at least) it’s crazy how I’ve gotten used to going to bed with a bit of a buzz. Although I’ll have a drink feb 1, I’d like to think I’ll be better about drinking after this. At least I hope so...
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Happy Ides of January! Hope it was better than mine!

I am in SO. MUCH. PAIN. About to try to sleep Unmedicated. Wish me luck.

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What I want to know is how much did you all drink before you stopped, I easily could finish a handle in 2 1/2 days of Vodka or Costco brand in 2 days. with only a slight buzz, these drinks when friends tried them called them Elephant tranquilizers.

I’ve been a 2 to 3 beers a day guy for 10+ years. Rarely more than 4, except on a warm Saturday it might be a 12 pack of domestic cheap beer.

Although I almost never get drunk (been a few years at least) it’s crazy how I’ve gotten used to going to bed with a bit of a buzz. Although I’ll have a drink feb 1, I’d like to think I’ll be better about drinking after this. At least I hope so...
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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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nekart14 wrote:
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What I want to know is how much did you all drink before you stopped, I easily could finish a handle in 2 1/2 days of Vodka or Costco brand in 2 days. with only a slight buzz, these drinks when friends tried them called them Elephant tranquilizers.


I’ve been a 2 to 3 beers a day guy for 10+ years. Rarely more than 4, except on a warm Saturday it might be a 12 pack of domestic cheap beer.

Although I almost never get drunk (been a few years at least) it’s crazy how I’ve gotten used to going to bed with a bit of a buzz. Although I’ll have a drink feb 1, I’d like to think I’ll be better about drinking after this. At least I hope so...
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I am in the same boat: 1 beer and a couple glasses of wine like clockwork. It's a habit and hopefully one I am going to change.

A handle = 1.75 liters in 2-2.5 days? Dude...that is very serious drinking.
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Happy Ides of January! Hope it was better than mine!

I am in SO. MUCH. PAIN. About to try to sleep Unmedicated. Wish me luck.

I hope you made it and are feeling better.
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My date with the Dr. (as noted in post #29) is tomorrow. The suckage level will be determined by the results.

Hope your test results are positive, good vibes!
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Yesterday was fine, but weekend will be a rough one. We have friends bday on Saturday, then later I might go to a bar or Buffalo Wild Wings to watch ufc 246, then another party with above-average drinker friends on Sunday. It will be hard to resist temptation so wish me luck! I’ll work hard on not drinking!
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stillrollin wrote:
My date with the Dr. (as noted in post #29) is tomorrow. The suckage level will be determined by the results.

Hope your test results are positive, good vibes!

Thanks, unfortunately I didn’t get the results I wanted. It appears the cancer has retuned. I’m scheduled for surgery and a biopsy in early February.

Fuck cancer.

Going for a run to clear my head but I plan on staying the course.

Fuck cancer.
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Fuck cancer, kick its ass
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [HiKai] [ In reply to ]
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A 1-3 (usually craft) beer type, but have gone on streaks of 6 to 8 months dry typically ending in holiday season. This year a buddy and I both went dry to keep each other accountable. So far I feel pretty awesome and a sober friend recommended HopTea. There is alcohol and obviously not as good as beer but it has that great ipa hopped aroma. I've been taking them with me to parties and what not and find for me as long as I have a drink in my hand that reminds me of beer I don't really miss it, and feel so recovered the next day.

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Not replying to you specifically but I found thru this process I enjoyed alcohol but could care less. Haven’t wanted it. Flipped the switch. Done.

HOWEVER... I am extremely addicted to sugar. Since I’ve been more aware of addictive behavior I’ve realized I can’t go a day without some special sweet.

So my alcohol streak will continue but my true focus is sugar.
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What I want to know is how much did you all drink before you stopped, I easily could finish a handle in 2 1/2 days of Vodka or Costco brand in 2 days. with only a slight buzz, these drinks when friends tried them called them Elephant tranquilizers.


I’ve been a 2 to 3 beers a day guy for 10+ years. Rarely more than 4, except on a warm Saturday it might be a 12 pack of domestic cheap beer.

Although I almost never get drunk (been a few years at least) it’s crazy how I’ve gotten used to going to bed with a bit of a buzz. Although I’ll have a drink feb 1, I’d like to think I’ll be better about drinking after this. At least I hope so...

usually never during Sunday - Thursday, but would accrue on average ~8-12 drinks on Friday and Saturday combined. Usually no more than 6-7 a night but a few nights there were more, and I am trying to limit that.

For what its worth to anyone on this forum, here is my new year's resolution - maybe this system will be helpful for you - let me tell you what I am trying to manage to / my goals

1) Having a system in place is key - I'm very good with food - I stay away from stuff I shouldn't have because I have a system. Trying to do the same with booze - it has been getting better and better each year
2) sometimes events happen; weddings, bachelor parties, reunions - there is opportunity for more consumption - and thats OK.
3) Given #2, however, want to eliminate "random" evenings - ones where more than a few should NOT happen and probably happen because I'm BORED

so anyways - my 2020 system - manage to ~4 drinks / average a week, or 234 drinks a year. On a "big night", or an event, the maximum is 6 drinks. Also, I want to have 3 months of sobriety, but those 3 months must come at a minimum 21 day increments. I only have a drink ~80-100 days a year, so the overall number of "sober" days is high, its more about having that longer streak to really "bake in" the benefits.

anyways - if thats helpful, I'm happy, if not, no worries.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to hear that. Sending good thoughts your way.
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Fuck. Dude, that's not fair at all. I'm so sorry.

Keep kicking ass. You are strong and capable of destroying that motherfucker.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to hear that man!

Stay strong, your going to kick cancer's ass.

Best wishes.

Fuck Cancer!!!
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dcomdcom wrote:
Sorry to hear that man!

Stay strong, your going to kick cancer's ass.

Best wishes.

Fuck Cancer!!!

Amen. Go crush it
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [HiKai] [ In reply to ]
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Halfway!!!!!

Good discussion question.

When I’m not doing dry January I’m a social drinker. A beer or wine maybe 2 with friends and the occasional split bottle of wine with my husband.

If miami traffic is especially horrible maybe a glass of wine in the evening.

Last year, I did my first dry January and it surprised me how much I enjoyed it. I would never have thought that one glass of wine was impacting my mornings but it does.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triczyk] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you all.

Shitty news for sure but it’s treatable. It probably won’t kill me but I’ll be dealing with it till something else does. It’s my new normal.
Times like this though, I realize there are many who have it worse than I do. Especially with cancer.

It for sure isn’t gonna knock me off the wagon. Ill keep keeping on. After today we’ll have more days done than we have left. It’s downhill from here people.
LET’S GO!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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You are so strong, it’s inspiring.

Whenever I have a dark moment for the rest of this month, I’m going to think of you and HTFU and just keep going.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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WHOOOOAAAAAAA WE’RE HALFWAY THERE

Happy halfway mark everyone! It’s all downhill from here. I hope everyone has either created or tripped over their “why” to put the wind in the sails and glide towards the end of this month.

Today was like a marathon, which I usually celebrate that finish line with a cold one. No cold one for me tonight, womp womp. Thankfully my mouth is feeling better.

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Have a great and balanced weekend everyone !
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We’ve made it 17 whole days! That’s apparently the amount of time that any New Years resolutions wear off, so kudos for staying the course!

I didn’t post last night, I just crashed after another brutally long week. Still going strong though!

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I was wondering đźŹ

Onto our 3rd weekend! A 3 dayer for me and may get snowed in today. More challenges but there’s no stopping us now.
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Miamiamy wrote:
Halfway!!!!!

Good discussion question.

When I’m not doing dry January I’m a social drinker. A beer or wine maybe 2 with friends and the occasional split bottle of wine with my husband.

If miami traffic is especially horrible maybe a glass of wine in the evening.

Last year, I did my first dry January and it surprised me how much I enjoyed it. I would never have thought that one glass of wine was impacting my mornings but it does.

John Mayer had an interesting quote in his Fix Interview a year or two ago:

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Not drinking “feels like boredom at first,” he explained. But sticking with it will level everything out. “You’re like, â€Oh, I”m not having these high highs.’ But if you work, you can bring the whole line up.”

Coming up on 500 days next week personally, it definitely has leveled out. My emotions are super steady and mostly everything just rolls off my back. I also put myself in way less precarious situations these days it seems.
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Made it through the kid bday party last night. Kids were upstairs right next to the bar and I have to admit I looked at the liquor cabinet a few times and it was really tempting.
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Had the Worst Flu Ever for like 1.5 weeks, and was on all manner of OTC drugs (NSAID, suppressant, expectorant, etc), but used the no-alcohol NyQuil, and couldn't even think about having a beer.

I was going to hope this would elicit some sympathy, but then I read about the cancer dude, and realize, yeah, no, not going to happen, buttercup.
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I really wanted a glass of wine tonight. A quality cab would do the trick. Honestly it wouldn’t have taken much convincing if my wife had pushed the issue. But, stayed strong. Tomorrow night is another weekend night for me, but I think I can, I think I can.
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Guysguysguys.

LESS THAN TWO WEEKS TO GO. YOU’VE GOT THIS!

I’ve tapered for longer than that!

Bit of a struggle today. Long workout (ended with a brick run outside in the sleet), then home improvement project gone awry, then curling up in front of a fire. If that doesn’t scream bourbon then, sigh. Held it together with water and minimal whinging.

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This week will be a test for me -- in Germany for a work meeting. Which means all the other work people will be drinking copious amounts of beer in the evenings.

Not sure which is the bigger test: passing on the beer, or making myself ride the stationary bike in the hotel "fitness room".
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This week will be a test for me -- in Germany for a work meeting. Which means all the other work people will be drinking copious amounts of beer in the evenings.

Not sure which is the bigger test: passing on the beer, or making myself ride the stationary bike in the hotel "fitness room".

Haha. German hotel fitness rooms are tough. Good news is that you are pretty much the only one there.
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19 days down, just TWELVE to go! That's a measly 39% left.

Another night of crashing deep into sleep as soon as I hit the pillow last night, so no post again :p Apparently I was voluntold to renovate our bathroom in the basement ahead of the superbowl, and that's where all of my extra energy went this weekend. I've had massively good sleep lately though.

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3 weekends done! Good job everyone!!
I’m stillrollin đźś
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Haha. German hotel fitness rooms are tough. Good news is that you are pretty much the only one there.

Skipped dinner to hit the fitness room. Minimize temptations is one strategy.

One bike, one treadmill, one elliptical. Guy was just getting off the treadmill as I arrived.

Oh, and a dry sauna room. After about 30 min on the bike, Naked Dude came out and strolled through the fitness area for a towel.

Now I've been to the spas in Baden-Baden and Wiesbaden, which were clothing optional (except for one I think). But have never seen someone do it in a hotel fitness area.

(sorry for the diversion ... back to no alcohol ...)
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So you passed on dinner and the wiener schnitzel. Lucky you didn't face plant on the treadmill :).
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Eleven days to go!! Almost 65% of the way there!

Easy day and I remembered to post tonight :) my resting HR has gone down about 6bpm since the first of the year and my deep sleep, which I have trouble with, has almost doubled at night. It’s making my ramp up in volume go much smoother.

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Dr_Cupcake wrote:
my resting HR has gone down about 6bpm since the first of the year

Not sure about deep sleep (or how much I trust Garmin's version of it), but my resting HR has gone down 8 bpm, too.

I knew it would (always done when not partaking), but it is cool to see it consistently low.
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Kula wrote:
Dr_Cupcake wrote:
my resting HR has gone down about 6bpm since the first of the year

Not sure about deep sleep (or how much I trust Garmin's version of it), but my resting HR has gone down 8 bpm, too.

I knew it would (always done when not partaking), but it is cool to see it consistently low.

Do you actually sleep with the Garmin on? I'd be looking at it every 2 minutes so I have to leave it in the bathroom.

I'm still in, actually at day 37 or something (Dec 14), keeping it going for the rest of the month.
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Do you actually sleep with the Garmin on? I'd be looking at it every 2 minutes so I have to leave it in the bathroom.

I do. It was a little odd at first, but I got used to it pretty quickly.

In addition to tracking my sleep for my own personal reasons, it's a nice bonus that I get points through one of those Work/fitness incentive programs toward free gift cards. It doesn't matter how much you sleep, just that you tracked it. (The employer only gets data in the aggregate, not individual stats).
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Do you actually sleep with the Garmin on? I'd be looking at it every 2 minutes so I have to leave it in the bathroom.

I have a Polar Ignite, which is quite thin (why I got it), and I sleep with it. Main reason to get it was to be able to do sleep tracking.

It is really obvious that even one glass of wine affects the "nightly recharge". Since going No Alcohol every day has been "Good" or "Very Good" for the nightly recharge. (longer, deeper, fewer interruptions)
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Do you actually sleep with the Garmin on? I'd be looking at it every 2 minutes so I have to leave it in the bathroom.

I wear my Fenix 5 pretty much 24/7. Once in a while a notification pops up that catches my attention while trying to sleep but beyond that I don't even notice it's there. I like being able to track sleep and HR and see what kinds of things affect them.

My resting HR is down around 4bpm since Jan. 1.

Sleep has been great although I've noticed that I feel like I need more sleep than before I started the challenge. I was getting 7-7:45 per night and feeling fine, now it seems like I need a minimum of 8 hours or I struggle to get out of bed. Maybe I'm just in a more natural sleep pattern or something.
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Kula wrote:
Vols wrote:
Do you actually sleep with the Garmin on? I'd be looking at it every 2 minutes so I have to leave it in the bathroom.


I do. It was a little odd at first, but I got used to it pretty quickly.

In addition to tracking my sleep for my own personal reasons, it's a nice bonus that I get points through one of those Work/fitness incentive programs toward free gift cards. It doesn't matter how much you sleep, just that you tracked it. (The employer only gets data in the aggregate, not individual stats).

Joining this thread a little late as, quite frankly, I wasn't sure I could make it through the whole month, but I'm feeling much more confident as the time progresses.

I have the Oura ring and the difference in my sleep, HRV and resting heart rate between last month (lots and lots of drinking) and this month is remarkable.

I'm now putting in some really strong training sessions and, while it has taken 3 weeks, I'm starting to see some significant performance improvements during this dry period.
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Great work everyone - its just a month, but can change the relationship we share with booze in a real way!

Interesting analysis re: resting BPM - interestingly enough, no real changes to my resting heart rate - but I think i've been over-eating a bit this month (later evening snacks). My journey ends this saturday (doing 30 days) but thanks everyone for the support! Continue on!
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Good to hear you’re doing great. I’ve made it to a point where I barely miss alcohol... the latter part of the month is way easier than I thought. I might continue past January just to see the long term health benefits
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Making chili tonight. The recipe call for *half* of a bottle of beer. The struggle is real...
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Celerius] [ In reply to ]
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Alcohol free beer of its just for flavor?
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [charlie1980] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, missing it got less instead of more, especially as gained momentum on a few projects around the house... Weekend was still tempting

Appetite for sweets seems to have gone up but not sure if thats because its colder outside for the rides to work
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For flavor in the recipe. I don't think adding it breaks the vow. But the temptation of downing the other half of the beer was strong. But I overcame it...
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For flavor in the recipe. I don't think adding it breaks the vow. But the temptation of downing the other half of the beer was strong. But I overcame it...

Nice work!! I am going strong other than sampling about 2 oz of really good red wine at a friend’s bday party last weekend - felt like it was worth the exception as he wanted me to try it and I told myself I can always extend through Feb. 1.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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THREE. WEEKS. DONE.
Way to stay the course, everyone! We’re almost on that home stretch!

And off to bed for me. Zzzzz.

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Right? I woke up yesterday and I marvelled at how quickly the last 10 days seems to have zipped by.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Scheherazade] [ In reply to ]
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Woot!

It seems I'm over weeknight drinking. I rarely even think about it now. Major victory!

Weekends have been tougher. To wit, on Friday night I'm going to a comedy club with a two drink minimum. I hope my friends want my drinks cuz it seems like a waste to buy 2 sodas. Especially since I don't drink soda.
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stillrollin wrote:
Woot!

It seems I'm over weeknight drinking. I rarely even think about it now. Major victory.

Me too! I unboxed wine we received yesterday in our wine fridge and had no interest in drinking it. A month ago I would have opened at least a bottle.

Given how I’ve been feeling recently I’m really tempted to just give up alcohol for an extended period of time. Summer will be hard with the pool and friends and all, but for time being it is really manageable. I’ll give it more thought.
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Given how I’ve been feeling recently I’m really tempted to just give up alcohol for an extended period of time. Summer will be hard with the pool and friends and all, but for time being it is really manageable. I’ll give it more thought.

It gets easier and easier as you go. Once the default is set to not drink, rather than drink it became an afterthought. No one offers me beer anymore (unless it's someone who's unaware I don't drink which is easy to turn away) and I go months without going to bars even as a millennial. I don't regret giving it up whatsoever.
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For flavor in the recipe. I don't think adding it breaks the vow. But the temptation of downing the other half of the beer was strong. But I overcame it...

ya, the alcohol pretty much cooks out..

that's some serious willpower, not to drink the second half, not sure I could do that. well done !
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stillrollin wrote:
Woot!

It seems I'm over weeknight drinking. I rarely even think about it now. Major victory!

Weekends have been tougher. To wit, on Friday night I'm going to a comedy club with a two drink minimum. I hope my friends want my drinks cuz it seems like a waste to buy 2 sodas. Especially since I don't drink soda.

try a dash of bitters in a glass of soda water - tastes almost like a cocktail, looks like one, but negligible alcohol and sugars..
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charlie1980 wrote:
Given how I’ve been feeling recently I’m really tempted to just give up alcohol for an extended period of time. Summer will be hard with the pool and friends and all, but for time being it is really manageable. I’ll give it more thought.

2015 & 2016 I was really serious about racing (bike), and went without from Jan. until end of the racing season. The longer I go without, the less I want it. At some point then, it just became the new normal not to drink. I had good results those years, probably not a coincidence.
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channel your inner Europe because IT’S THE FIIIINAAAAL COUNTDOWWWWWN

22 days done and dusted. 9 to go! We’re so close, stay strong!

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"9 to go!"

Yes! Single digits.

Your daily updates continue to inspire. Thanks Dr.!!
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Most bartenders and waitresses ... at least the good ones are good about this. There are tons of other options for folks that don't drink alcohol. Mocktails, Virgin Bloody Mary's are good ... it's basically spicy juice, ice tea, Arnold Palmer which is ice tea and lemonade, juices, coffee, hot tea and so on.

Regarding the comedy club specifically when I was pregnant we went for a improv comedy show and they waived my drink minimum - I ordered food.
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Most bartenders and waitresses ... at least the good ones are good about this. There are tons of other options for folks that don't drink alcohol. Mocktails, Virgin Bloody Mary's are good ... it's basically spicy juice, ice tea, Arnold Palmer which is ice tea and lemonade, juices, coffee, hot tea and so on.

Regarding the comedy club specifically when I was pregnant we went for a improv comedy show and they waived my drink minimum - I ordered food.

Back in a former life when I was a night club DJ, my wife would get tired of "having" to be out drinking 3 nights every weekend (she was my pseudo promoter if you will). Instead of dealing with the never ending "why are you not drinking" she would get tonic and a lime in a low ball glass. No one asked what it was, just assumed it was a vodka tonic or something. Then you just ask the same bartender for "another" when ordering, that way you do not have to actually say it.
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Miamiamy wrote:
Most bartenders and waitresses ... at least the good ones are good about this. There are tons of other options for folks that don't drink alcohol. Mocktails, Virgin Bloody Mary's are good ... it's basically spicy juice, ice tea, Arnold Palmer which is ice tea and lemonade, juices, coffee, hot tea and so on.

Regarding the comedy club specifically when I was pregnant we went for a improv comedy show and they waived my drink minimum - I ordered food.

My wife just told me that's an option here - 2 food items instead of 2 drinks. All good. Thanks.
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I remember my first trip to Kona in 1991. I was 23 and I marvelled at all the German athletes that were a bit older. They were all fit looking but were all carrying beer into their condos, and I thought that beer and triathlon training were not really suited for each other. 30 years later, I think I am a lot like those German athletes. I love to train and race and I love to have a beer and a glass of wine and occasional single malt whisky. If I am being honest I likely drink 2-3 drinks a day 5-6 days a week. I decided on Dec 30th to not drink alcohol for a month, just to make sure that my habit was not an addiction and also to see if i noticed any health differences. My good friend who is also a pretty hard core athlete who drinks the same as me committed as well. I honestly feel no different at all - same sleep patterns - same energy levels - same body weight. Other than saving money I dont see a benefit that I can point to. That said - I want to keep my habit in check and take days off drinking each week and not make it a regular daily habit. Best of luck with your choices for food and drink and see you at the races :)

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Eight more days! We are a touch under 75% of the way there! Time to dig deep for the final push and to also reflect on the month, to make a plan to go forward into the rest of the year.

I plan to do that after a metric fuckton of sleep.

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This is the longest I've gone without a drink for many years. I think it's working because I'm on a big weight loss thing and it's really working well so I'm getting lots of positive reinforcement. All good.
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RobK wrote:
This is the longest I've gone without a drink for many years. I think it's working because I'm on a big weight loss thing and it's really working well so I'm getting lots of positive reinforcement. All good.

Good for you! I’ve lost 7 lbs myself and am actually glad we have another week as I’d love to drop an even 10.

Our last weekend (not) on tap!
Let’s go!!!
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Great work everyone - last few days! Am happy with how this month has been going - and am looking forward to settling in into a balanced routine for the remainder of the year. Exercises of self-restraint are always good!
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ONE. WEEK. TO. GO.

This is like mile 23 of the marathon. You’re tired, your brain is numb, everything sucks, but you know deep down you’re going to make it. That finish line is in sight!

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Feeling pretty good about finishing this off, at the moment. Made it through the biggest temptation ive faced, so far, with an uncle's passing due to a brain aneurysm. He was a good man. A farmer that worked his tail off and was all about his family. Normally, an event like that would lead to a few drinks while reflecting on the man he was and our own mortality. The thought of having to answer to a bunch of strangers on Slowtwitch actually helped more than I expected when I was faced with the decision to cave or not.

I think the next week will be pretty easy, honestly. We made it this far and I don't see another week being a problem. The coffee tastes so much better in the morning without that fuzziness in the head.
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Sorry about your uncle.

I'm still cruising along. It's interesting to learn that a buddy struggles much more than I do. We were talking about which Saturday ride to do, and I suggested this one that starts and ends at a brewery, and he paused, and suggested we do another ride, and that he was almost through January. Being a good ally, I immediately suggested another ride.
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Interestingly, I think the longer it goes, the easier it gets. I'm thinking about turning my no alcohol and no bread january into no alcohol and no bread february (except pizza)
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SIX. DAYS. Less than 20% remains!

The last few days have been rough. I had an achingly long week at work, and hosted a happy hour last night (where I stayed dry, thanks to the house-made shrubs). My mind still reverts back to the idea that a glass of...*something* will help me sleep better, even though I’ve proven to myself year after year that the opposite is true. Mostly I think I just want to turn off my brain so it leaves me alone when my eyes are shut. So, anyone got any good meditation practices to share?

Sending love and hugs to those who need them right now. It’s a tough go with any struggle, let alone when you’ve removed a source of comfort and mental analgesia. You’re a stronger person coming through the other side with this extra resistance training.

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Andres wrote:
Interestingly, I think the longer it goes, the easier it gets.

This is my experience also. Made it through this past week on the work trip in Germany, and didn't have a problem passing on the beer. Got home Friday evening after a long travel day. The usual habit would be to open some wine then sleep like crap. Thought about it, but the urge to do so was not very strong.

I am thinking about extending also into Feb.
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Dr_Cupcake wrote:
Mostly I think I just want to turn off my brain so it leaves me alone when my eyes are shut. So, anyone got any good meditation practices to share?

check out "The Meditation Podcast". They have a number of episodes that are good for falling asleep to, combination of guided meditation with underlying sounds. Usually gets me to sleep before it ends. Aside from that, I have been learning via yoga class that simply paying attention to and counting breath helps a lot. e.g., count 4 inhale, 2 hold, 4 exhale. Or just count down single breath from some number. Lost count? just start again.
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I also just made it through a week long trip to Amsterdam without much issue, ha!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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FIVE. MORE. DAYS.

Seriously, y’all, this is the home stretch. Survive the workweek and for most of us, the weekend unlocks the gate.

Easy weekend for the most part, with a known rough day or two looming this week. Looking forward to another mission accomplished!

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trail wrote:
Sorry about your uncle.

I'm still cruising along. It's interesting to learn that a buddy struggles much more than I do. We were talking about which Saturday ride to do, and I suggested this one that starts and ends at a brewery, and he paused, and suggested we do another ride, and that he was almost through January. Being a good ally, I immediately suggested another ride.

Thanks. Talking about him, on this thread, is ironic in that i'm guessing you could count the amount of drinks he had in his life on one or zero hands.

I would find it difficult taking a hard pass on the offerings from a brewery at the end of ride, too...I mean...about as fresh as you can get :-). The swim/bike/run part of January has been far more difficult than the celibate with alcohol.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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As planned, mine ended last weekend. Looking forward to it for weeks, that glass of Cab was absolutely heavenly.

As a giant positive though, I don't want more than the 1-2 glasses. Grabbed a beer after dinner out of habit, but found myself not really enjoying it, and it definitely did not taste like another. Hopefully this sticks and the focus stays on just 1-2 on occasion, that really does not mess with my sleep or functionality the next day.

Thanks everyone for the support, the reward is worth it.
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I’m actually contemplating where my alcohol use goes from here. I don’t want to be a hardcore no all the time, but what is the right frequency?

I’ve been feeling better since Jan 1st, better sleep, weight loss, more patient around the kids, but don’t see myself fully quitting. Should I do only special occasions like Valentine’s Day, birthdays etc? Only fancy dinners which happen only 2-3/year? What’s a special occasion anyways? Only during vacations? If I start with Super Bowl on Sunday, how long/what is the risk of going back to my old habits of almost every day? How hard will it be to limit myself to 2-3 drinks per sitting, twice a week?

All rethorical anyway, I’m kinda using slowtwitch as my own journal. I guess I’ll post in 2021 to see what happened.
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I’m not a big believer in rules of when I’m allowed to drink, has to be a little more organic than that to be successful. I’m taking the approach of limiting consumption during the week, and only having a few on the weekend if I feel like it.

It’s very easy for me, when saying it’s allowed on special occasions, to make any occasion special and then it has no meaning. We did this in College, my roommates and I all tried to limit our smoking. Started with only smoking on days beginning in “T”, which was Tuesday, Thursday, and Tailgate days. Then we started sitting on the tailgate of my buddies truck, then it was “Today”.

For me it’s just looking at my consumption periodically taking stock of where I am, and when I feel like it is getting a bit much, taking a step back. Last year I didn’t race at all, and it started to get out of hand, so in addition to the January step back, I also took most of July to dry our. Most years the January dry experiment is enough to keep it all in check. The most important thing is to recognize when it is starting to affect other areas of your life, and take control of it before you descend into addiction.
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I’m actually contemplating where my alcohol use goes from here. I don’t want to be a hardcore no all the time, but what is the right frequency?

I’ve been feeling better since Jan 1st, better sleep, weight loss, more patient around the kids, but don’t see myself fully quitting. Should I do only special occasions like Valentine’s Day, birthdays etc? Only fancy dinners which happen only 2-3/year? What’s a special occasion anyways? Only during vacations? If I start with Super Bowl on Sunday, how long/what is the risk of going back to my old habits of almost every day? How hard will it be to limit myself to 2-3 drinks per sitting, twice a week?

This is the identical scenario I'm facing. This dry January has been the longest I've gone since I started drinking ~10yrs ago. I was in a pretty steady habit of 2-3 beers a night, sometimes more, and definitely more on weekends.

Having gone 27 days now, I only see positives. I'm dropping weight. I'm smashing workouts. I'm sleeping better. I'm more productive around the house. I don't start stupid arguments with my SO. I wake up happy and without a hangover. It truly makes me reconsider if I will go back and to what extent.

I certainly don't want to fall back into multiple drinks a night just because. But being able to grab the occasional drink with friends at the brewery or after a long workout would be nice. I guess everything is TBD, but my life has genuinely been better without booze. So now at least I can come reference this post in the future as a reminder haha
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Have you considered switching the 2-3 beers during the week to non-alcoholic versions? Less calories, no hangover, same dopamine hit from drinking a beer and they seem to taste a lot better than they used too. I started doing this recently and its made me question why I didn't do it sooner if I'm only having a beer in the house. Will still have an actual beer if I'm going out for a particular occasion but cuts down a lot of the unnecessary alcohol consumption.
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In some ways I think it would be easier if it were to just become a "hard no". i.e., I don't drink.

I've gone long periods without, 15-20 years ago when I was just thinking about bike racing all the time. During that time I didn't find it difficult at all to be around people drinking and not feel tempted. Once I start, it's pretty easy for it to be habitual. Not excessive, but habitual. I imagine everyone's a bit different in that regard.

That's why I like this experiment -- whether January or otherwise -- because it can trigger you to really look at your habits.

Big thing for me is really noticing how different I feel every day. What's better ... having that feeling or the (temporary) enjoyment from the couple glasses of wine? Also rhetorical. At a minimum ... I think it's beneficial to keep those questions open and keep asking them. Maybe there aren't hard answers, but at least by asking the questions we are raising the awareness.
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Yup, that's exactly what I have been doing too. A lot of them kinda sucked. But I found a few IPA and Hazy Pale Ales that are halfway decent. The Coors one isn't bad either. And at 5-40 calories a piece, it's been a nice low cal alternative too
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THREE. MORE. DAYS.
Ninety percent of the way there. The chute is in sight! The roar of the crowds grows louder!

Lest you thought I was done ;) nope, just fell asleep in the couch last night and zombied my way to bed. I will be grateful when my spate of 14-hour workdays is done.

Get after it, y’all! Enjoy the finish glow from these last few days. And share your plan for the rest of the year if you haven’t already!

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Yep - it is all about habits and I guess a lot of people don't really understand the implications, especially with the addictive aspects of alcohol in play. I recently read Charles Duhigg's "The Power of Habit". If you want to change your drinking habits, give it a read.

For what it's worth: I did dry January last year (first time in over 40 years that I did not drink for a month). I then fell back into my old routine of 3-4 drinks a night. My plan this year is to stay dry for 2 months (actually I will give myself one drinking day in the middle) and then attempt to modify my habits to cut back to 2-3 days a week.
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Thanks for doing this again this year I have followed these threads in the past and like to read the stories and other peoples experiences we all seem to have a lot in common. I never followed through with dry January until this year.

I had a good month without alcohol, lost 12 pounds, missed less workouts, way better sleep and over all more productive with feeling much more positive. Much easier to lose wt when you don't drink a bottle of wine with dinner and raid the pantry for junk food at 10 pm!

I have always been concerned about my alcohol consumption as my family has had some pretty bad issues with it in the past. I really enjoy a nice glass of wine with dinner after work or a beer in the garage when I am out there working on a project on weekends. Add in social events and Friday nights with the neighbor, who loves bourbon and has an extensive collection, and it can quickly get out of hand.

The month went well, I made it through a few social events. I replaced Friday night bourbon with my neighbor with ginger ale and still had a good time. I did skip the Italian imported wine tasting at my buddies new restaurant on the 27th lol! I think I am going to keep going with it, I have given it up for Lent in the past which is coming up soon so I may just continue through till April or even June when I have my race. I still have another 8 pounds to go to make my goal for wt loss and this will help.
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Congrats on the weight loss. It’s certainly a great byproduct of the challenge. I’m waiting until Saturday for my final tally.

Only one more Friday night!
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Dude that’s awesome! Way to go!

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I love this. I probably dink/drank more than the average drinker... Was pretty active until we had kids, then Found myself about 50 pounds overweight and pretty much not doing anything. About 2 years ago I told my wife I wanted to get into running. She signed me up for a 5k the next week, a 10k the next month, then a half marathon at the end of the summer. Then the night before the half marathon my dad told me he'd buy me a new bike if I did the IRONMAN with him. At that point the furthest I had run was 7 miles and wasn't even sure I'd finish the half marathon. Well I finished and 2 years later found myself training for my first IRONMAN. Last July 1st totally gave up alcohol and never looked back. Had a few drinks over Christmas and decided its not for me. So sign me up!!!!
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Mostly I think I just want to turn off my brain so it leaves me alone when my eyes are shut. So, anyone got any good meditation practices to share?

mental analgesia is mostly what I'm after..

what I do, is count my breathing, backwards from 100, and do yoga breathing using the diaphragm rather than chest expansions. The counting gives my squirrel mind just enough to do to distract it from other random thoughts. I still have to refocus on the breathing or the counting or both quite often, but apparently that is standard meditation practice.
Some nights I don't get down to 1, other nights take several rounds of 100-down to get calm. But eventually it always works, so far.

"It is a good feeling for old men who have begun to fear failure, any sort of failure, to set a schedule for exercise and stick to it. If an aging man can run a distance of three miles, for instance, he knows that whatever his other failures may be, he is not completely wasted away." Romain Gary, SI interview
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Have you considered switching the 2-3 beers during the week to non-alcoholic versions? Less calories, no hangover, same dopamine hit from drinking a beer and they seem to taste a lot better than they used too. I started doing this recently and its made me question why I didn't do it sooner if I'm only having a beer in the house. Will still have an actual beer if I'm going out for a particular occasion but cuts down a lot of the unnecessary alcohol consumption.

As folks consider what the next steps might be, I have used all y'alls dedication to motivate me to cut back -- I was having 2-3 beers a night. In January weeknights, I started have one non-alcoholic beer, then a real one and then another non-alcoholic. For me, it's all about the ritual of pouring something frothy into a frosty mug while I unwind from the day/workout and make dinner. (Plus, I live in Portland, which is awash in fantastic boutique breweries.) Then on the weekends I have two real beers if I want to. Which I usually do.

I've done just a touch of experimenting looking for craft NA beers. Most are pretty decent (after the first sip). So far I really like Bravus Oatmeal Stout --- thick and creamy and probably not entirely healthy but doing the trick for me. Congrats to you all for an inspiraional month.
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Unlike eating clean, where Id eat like a monk for 6 days then on the 7th binge on burgers fries, chips chocolate, bacon and cheese tosties with chilli aioloi.... Where was I? Oh yeah.... This no alcohol thing seems to get easier each day.

There was a smoking app that reminded you how much you were saving... Like day 15, you saved 90euros and your blood pumps 20%easier.... Then after 3 months, it says you saved 540euros.... This time I kept track of coffees, snacks, lunches, drinks, wines that I skipped so I could aim for a new computer monitor... I got a 3 month swim membership instead at the nicer local pool, so will keep going at least feb, probably march, maybe april. Happens to coincide with a new job role oppurtunity at work coming up so its motivating to be my best for the learning curve too
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FORTY EIGHT HOURS. WE ARE DOWN TO HOURS!

Today was my toughest day. It always is, because it’s the anniversary of my mother’s death. Talk about wanting the mind to black out. Instead I had a hard double workout and a good, rewarding day of volunteering and now I’m off to bed for my early wake up call.

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I had a planned one-night "off the wagon" event last night, as I'd volunteered back in December to organize a wine/cheese pairing event for a group of neighbors/friends

I have to say, I wasn't really looking forward to it. But it was fun, and interesting to taste wine again. Wasn't a lot - 5x2oz glasses. But it was still enough to have a super shitty sleep last night and to wake up feeling groggy. I mean, if I ever had any question that even moderate amounts have an impact, this answered it.

Like others have noted, I feel like I want to make some permanent modifications. Sometimes it's going to be worth the tradeoff to wake up feeling a little less than optimal. But I'd rather that be the exception than the rule.
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BrianB wrote:

I had a planned one-night "off the wagon" event last night, as I'd volunteered back in December to organize a wine/cheese pairing event for a group of neighbors/friends

I have to say, I wasn't really looking forward to it. But it was fun, and interesting to taste wine again. Wasn't a lot - 5x2oz glasses. But it was still enough to have a super shitty sleep last night and to wake up feeling groggy. I mean, if I ever had any question that even moderate amounts have an impact, this answered it.

Like others have noted, I feel like I want to make some permanent modifications. Sometimes it's going to be worth the tradeoff to wake up feeling a little less than optimal. But I'd rather that be the exception than the rule.



LOL, that's where I ended up too. I gave up 'strong' drinking years ago; its just too hard, shots are stupid, I'm no 20 years old, etc. I still enjoy a good beer and every once in a while I enjoy quite a few good beers. I also go stretches with no drinking. most recently I abstained for 14 weeks as I was trying to maximize weight drop prior to a run.


the funny thing is, every time I'm dry, people ask me if it makes a difference. 'you don't drink much anymore, does it matter?" and sadly, I can tell them it does. if I was "smart", I'd probably give it up. but life is too short to be smart all the time.
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I'm late to this non party thread, but I've been dry this year. It wasn't just a dry January thing, it was a change I wanted to make indefinitely. Some thoughts:
It hasn't been hard, even after the past year or so of not denying myself anything diet wise. Since not bike racing, I haven't cared about the extra 7-10 pounds and stepped down fitness. And drinking became an almost daily thing at night 2-3 glasses of wine usually, and not just a social or special occasion thing.
Initially it was just a matter of breaking the routine of red wine at night. That was new and different, but I really like not drinking. I do other stuff like use my brain, be productive. I wake up with a clear head, deal better with stress, am less anxious (see stressed by stressors) have dropped 5 lbs without any other change and no real raining routine, more methodical and detailed, more energy, more positivity, less impatient, and reactive.
I like drinking some times, but don't want to just drink as a matter of course. I have a boys ski trip end of Feb will involve some beers and wine. So be it. The real challenge is not to not drink at all, but rather to keep it a non habit, and live a generally arid way of life with moderate social occasions, a glass here and there but no consistent presence. As the guy said to Kevin the Goat, "There's no need for it, mate!"
Sort of out of the blue, or over time, drinking becomes a bigger part of one's life than before even if it isn't a "problem". But there is a certain groove/mindset/rut that comes with it. It's nice to step back from that, maybe change the pathways a bit.
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So out of curiosity, tomorrow at midnight will be February first. Anyone staying up to enjoy a February first drink? I won’t, midnight is way past my bedtime but was curious
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McNulty wrote:
Sort of out of the blue, or over time, drinking becomes a bigger part of one's life than before even if it isn't a "problem". But there is a certain groove/mindset/rut that comes with it. It's nice to step back from that, maybe change the pathways a bit.

Seems to be a common theme running through many of the postings here: step back, evaluate, be more mindful going forward. If that's the result, that's a big accomplishment in my mind. Kudos to all who took the challenge.
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ONE. TINY. DAY. TO. GO.

God I love seeing the finish line :)

Another long day and about to crash quickly into sleep.

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So out of curiosity, tomorrow at midnight will be February first. Anyone staying up to enjoy a February first drink? I won’t, midnight is way past my bedtime but was curious

Yes.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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I won’t. I have parkrun on Saturday morning!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to be pre-emptive and say, WE DID IT!

Thanks again to our hostess and kudos to all those that played along.

I've stopped drinking twice in the past, primarily for weight loss. This started that way but became much more mental as I really focused on my relationship with booze (craft beer primarily).

In 31 days without alcohol I:
  1. broke the daily, post work IPA habit;
  2. realized that drinking alone (& justifying it) is really the little booze devil on my shoulder whispering demonic, habitual thoughts in my ear;
  3. generally felt better and better about myself and;
  4. lost 9 pounds ( I did eat better and began exercising regularly again, but they seem to go hand in hand).

I'm not going to place any hard rules on myself. I was contemplating no drinking Sun-Thurs but I think that sets myself up for failure. I still may have the occasional weeknight beer or a couple on the weekends but it's going to be more social and not habitual. As others have noted, I'm just going to be more self aware and make sure old habits don't return.

So, I won the no alcohol battle but my war on cancer continues with surgery and one time chemo blast next Thursday, 2/6 to hopefully eradicate this shit from my bladder.Thank you all for the positive vibes you've sent.

Keep on fighting the good fight(s). I will.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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WE.
DID.
IT!!!!!!!

If you’ve made it to the end of the month, serious kudos to you. I hope it got easier as time progressed, and also you learned more about yourself and your relationship with alcohol. I also hope you reaped some physical benefits that will help you stay motivated to make this a healthy habit.

For those continuing into February, KEEP IT UP! You’re doing a great job and your benefits from this prolonged dry spell will achieve new heights. Feel free to keep posting, you’ll find a large cheering section waiting for you!

I hope you found it helpful to post and stay accountable. We had a great group of people checking in and providing encouragement to others, and it made me so happy and proud to be a part of this community.

For me, my spell ends tomorrow. I am expected to give a toast at a function for my cycling club tomorrow evening, and I’m looking forward to it immensely. But I am going to bust out a 12-month wall calendar and a cute rubber stamp to mark the dry days to visually track my habits, and adopt a meditation practice to help shut off my brain. I want to move strictly to the enjoyment of the taste of alcohol and away from the desire to use it as a muffler for my brain.

Well done, all!

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Cheers to that!

Party tonight then back to business for Feb... Maybe not weekends... But loving the results... Thanks and well done everyone!
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For those continuing into February, KEEP IT UP! You’re doing a great job and your benefits from this prolonged dry spell will achieve new heights. Feel free to keep posting, you’ll find a large cheering section waiting for you!

I hope you found it helpful to post and stay accountable. We had a great group of people checking in and providing encouragement to others, and it made me so happy and proud to be a part of this community.

What do you (and others) think about creating a new "Alcohol Mindfulness 2020" thread? (or maybe can edit the thread title?) to help encourage those who so desire to keep posting? It's been really interesting and helpful to read peoples' experiences during Jan.
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Congrats to all of you! Recovering alcoholic here. Sober for about 5.5 years. Guess what my new addiction has been? I've got a life time of mental punishment training, now I just need the body to catch up!
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What do you (and others) think about creating a new "Alcohol Mindfulness 2020" thread? (or maybe can edit the thread title?) to help encourage those who so desire to keep posting? It's been really interesting and helpful to read peoples' experiences during Jan.

I’m up for that
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BrianB wrote:

What do you (and others) think about creating a new "Alcohol Mindfulness 2020" thread? (or maybe can edit the thread title?) to help encourage those who so desire to keep posting? It's been really interesting and helpful to read peoples' experiences during Jan.

That sounds good. Last year's January permanently converted me from a 1 beer/day person to a 1-2 beer per month person (basically stopped buying beer at the store altogether, but will have one when out with "the boys"). Not as dramatic as some of the recovering alcoholics here, but still worthwhile.

I finished this month too.
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Congrats to everyone who made it through the month and thanks to the good doctor for leading the way.

I started late and will complete my 31 days on Feb 6. I am up for continuing in another thread.
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oops and thanks...Feb 7. Should have looked at the calendar. Anyway, my plan is to drink on Feb 8 at my wife's birthday party and then go back on the wagon for another month at least.
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YES. LET'S DO THIS.

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BrianB wrote:

What do you (and others) think about creating a new "Alcohol Mindfulness 2020" thread? (or maybe can edit the thread title?) to help encourage those who so desire to keep posting? It's been really interesting and helpful to read peoples' experiences during Jan.

I have updated the title of this thread and edited the first post to reflect the graduation of this discussion from Dry January to the continued exploration of our relationships with alcohol and our drinking habits.

If you have created a peaceful mindset without the need for alcohol during January, and want to keep up the good work, keep on posting! If you want to start a dry spell at any point throughout the year, start posting! If you want to be held accountable on the days you have "sworn off" the booze, do the posting! We've become a great group of people who want ourselves and others to succeed on building healthier habits.

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Nice Segway to continue the thread for those that are taking encouragement, and making it kind of a meeting. I lurked all month, but I did all of Jan dry. It really isn't a big deal for me, Alcohol and me dont have a problem, and I'm grateful for that. I empathize with those whose bodies cannot be turned off, and brains that push them to drink. Just because it is easy for me, I in no way conclude that it should be that way for others. So chapeau to all of you that made it last month with struggles, and continued support from the peanut gallery here going forward..
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annnnd I'm out, started a bit late . . .

I wish I could say this challenge gets easier with age, but . . .

anyway a huge thanks to Cupcake and all others for support and peer pressure!

I'm planning on using alcohol as an incentive to get me out in the evening -- something I don't ordinarily relish as I'm a true morning person at heart. So, drinks + socialising/networking out of my comfort zone -- and no random drinking at home.

This might work for others in other ways -- beers with your club after a session, maybe. Anyway the benefits have been huge, as always, thanks again.
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It's been an interesting month for me. Firstly I found it much easier than I expected after the first couple of days. Secondly I couldn't believe how much easier it made it to lose weight: I've lost 5Kg since Christmas which is astounding. When I've tried to lose weight before I've found it very hard so this is a real revelation.

I had some wine last night but I'm hopefully going to stay largely booze free most of the time for the foreseeable. I was definitely drinking way too much before and if I can crack that 2-3 glasses of wine an evening habit for good then that will be a real result.
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YES. LET'S DO THIS.

Awesome! Thanks for continuing on and renaming the thread.

I started Feb with 2 glasses of wine. And stopped there. Previously I would have thought ... hmm, I could use another before going to bed. My intention for 2020 is to be more mindful like that.

I like the notion of "intention". One of the yoga teachers I really like says this often in class (paraphrasing): "Set an intention for yourself, for your practice. An intention is different than a goal. Goals focus on a result and are easy to miss. Intention is process-oriented. Repeat your intention to yourself, in the present tense."

For me this comes out as: I am being mindful about drinking alcohol.
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Congrats all that made it through!

My first step for examining my relationship with alcohol was a dry month a couple years ago, made me really think about what the benefits of alcohol were (specifically craft beer) then a few bouts of of sobriety ranging from 1-3 months I was ready to give it up for good. Now at 29 years old I'm 500 days sober and I can't see myself going back.
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Happy 2/3 everyone!

I broke my dry spell this weekend, at my cycling club function and at our super bowl party last night.

I experienced something interesting, I was pretty much not in the mood to drink. I had one beer at the function on Saturday night and was like, that was tasty, I'm good. And last night due to hostess duties I kept starting a drink and putting it down and walking away, forgetting about it.

I am flipping tired today. It's been hard enough operating on fewer hours of sleep. And two days worth of a couple of drinks and I am WAY THE HAY feeling it today. Ugh.

I won't drink again until probably/at least Friday night. Hold me to that :)

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I learned a looooong time ago that drinking to excess was bad, sideswiping a car at 105 mph on a motorcycle while riding drunk will do that.

These days I have maybe one alcoholic beverage a month, usually a small (1-2 fingers) of a decent whiskey or scotch in a glass that I drink because, well, I like the flavor. Not enough to get drunk, just a big more relaxed and sleepy, and always at home so that driving is not a concern.

I have gone as long as a year without drinking any alcoholic beverages since my early days of hard drinking. In those early days it was not unusual to drink 6-12 beers in one day/night. After the event I started this post with, that dropped to nearly nothing for a long time. Since then it has been may a single beer after a few hours of yard work, a single, small glass of whisky or mixed drink (I like rum with my eggnog and hot cocoa), but I have been drunk no more than 6 times since 1984 with the last time in 1994.
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I was pretty much not in the mood to drink.
Yes! Same here. We split a half bottle of bubbles with a late supper on Saturday and while it was nice, I was rather relieved it was a half bottle and not a regular sized one!
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My Bravus Brewing non alcoholic variety pack arrived today. Hoping this can be a viable substitute for the "real" thing..........

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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My Bravus Brewing non alcoholic variety pack arrived today. Hoping this can be a viable substitute for the "real" thing..........
Are you really saying you expect a non-alcoholic 'beer' to be as good as real beer? You must not be a Trappist drinker...
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When it comes to drinking, it always seems there's a hard lesson involved. Thanks for sharing.
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I experienced something interesting, I was pretty much not in the mood to drink.

On a work trip, post January, so I have "permission" to drink if I so desire. First night, not in the mood. Next night dinner, with all the others having beer (and all having multiple). One glass of wine for me, which was just enough and I just didn't feel like any more. It's actually kind of liberating feeling like I can choose.
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I think it's only worth giving up alltogether too. There are lots of free rehabs, mostly christian centers, here's a list https://addictionresource.com/...-and-rehab-hotlines/. So in my opinion, if you can't quit yourself and you really want to do something with your life, there's nothing wrong with asking for help.
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japarker24 wrote:
My Bravus Brewing non alcoholic variety pack arrived today. Hoping this can be a viable substitute for the "real" thing..........
Alcohol is a great delivery vehicle for flavours. Take the alcohol out and the whole nature of the flavour and mouth feel changes. Most non-alcoholic beers or wines are awful, but then those tend to be made by companies that also do terrible alcoholic beverages. Some taste nice enough, but they are not a true substitute for the alcoholic variety in my view, except in that they provide a healthier, more palatable (IMO) option than soft drinks. Decaff coffee can still taste like much like a non-decaff coffee. Caffeine isn't a big taste factor. Alcohol is unfortunately.
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I find it hard to believe that anyone truly drinks alcohol because it 'tastes good'.
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dunno wrote:
I find it hard to believe that anyone truly drinks alcohol because it 'tastes good'.
Seriously?
That's an astonishing comment (at least to me) and if you mean it, it shows remarkable ignorance.

Do you think people spend a lot more to get better quality wines, beers and spirits because they find them more bearable? or to be pretentious perhaps?
No, plenty people, myself included, drink alcoholic beverages primarily because they appreciate the taste. If I drink a glass of wine with dinner I'm not about to feel any noticeable effects outside of the taste. I do it because I enjoy the taste. On the other hand, if I only had a choice between bad wine/beer, or a glass of water, I'll have the water.
Admittedly, on occasion I'll drink a bit more, and on those occasions I'll drink the good stuff first and the slightly less good stuff later when my palette's no longer at it's best! If people just wanted to get drunk and didn't like the taste wouldn't they just gulp down sugary cocktails or shots or something?
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stillrollin wrote:
I'm going to be pre-emptive and say, WE DID IT!

Thanks again to our hostess and kudos to all those that played along.

I've stopped drinking twice in the past, primarily for weight loss. This started that way but became much more mental as I really focused on my relationship with booze (craft beer primarily).

In 31 days without alcohol I:
  1. broke the daily, post work IPA habit;
  2. realized that drinking alone (& justifying it) is really the little booze devil on my shoulder whispering demonic, habitual thoughts in my ear;
  3. generally felt better and better about myself and;
  4. lost 9 pounds ( I did eat better and began exercising regularly again, but they seem to go hand in hand).

I'm not going to place any hard rules on myself. I was contemplating no drinking Sun-Thurs but I think that sets myself up for failure. I still may have the occasional weeknight beer or a couple on the weekends but it's going to be more social and not habitual. As others have noted, I'm just going to be more self aware and make sure old habits don't return.

So, I won the no alcohol battle but my war on cancer continues with surgery and one time chemo blast next Thursday, 2/6 to hopefully eradicate this shit from my bladder.Thank you all for the positive vibes you've sent.

Keep on fighting the good fight(s). I will.

Hope yesterday’s chemo went ok and you’re on the road to recovery. I feel off the wagon hard last week (on a boys weekend and a trip to High West in park city was not an ideal way to come off a dry January) but have another 6 days dry in the bag. No alcohol “battle” is the right term for me - thinking about trying to go mostly dry until DK end of May but it’s a struggle to be sure with all the “wet” folks in my circle.
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Ai_1 wrote:
dunno wrote:
I find it hard to believe that anyone truly drinks alcohol because it 'tastes good'.
Seriously?
That's an astonishing comment (at least to me) and if you mean it, it shows remarkable ignorance.

Do you think people spend a lot more to get better quality wines, beers and spirits because they find them more bearable? or to be pretentious perhaps?
No, plenty people, myself included, drink alcoholic beverages primarily because they appreciate the taste. If I drink a glass of wine with dinner I'm not about to feel any noticeable effects outside of the taste. I do it because I enjoy the taste. On the other hand, if I only had a choice between bad wine/beer, or a glass of water, I'll have the water.
Admittedly, on occasion I'll drink a bit more, and on those occasions I'll drink the good stuff first and the slightly less good stuff later when my palette's no longer at it's best! If people just wanted to get drunk and didn't like the taste wouldn't they just gulp down sugary cocktails or shots or something?

I honestly can't get past the alcohol taste, I can't taste anything else and to me, it's truly awful.

But then again I have many friends that can distinguish between different types of beers and wines and they very much like their own particular drink.
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Then, You’ve been drinking the wrong stuff. I’m 44. I can’t remember the last time I drank alcohol “to get drunk”. There is so much good-tasting beer, wine and spirits out there. Just, in moderation.
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jaretj wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
dunno wrote:
I find it hard to believe that anyone truly drinks alcohol because it 'tastes good'.
Seriously?
That's an astonishing comment (at least to me) and if you mean it, it shows remarkable ignorance.

Do you think people spend a lot more to get better quality wines, beers and spirits because they find them more bearable? or to be pretentious perhaps?
No, plenty people, myself included, drink alcoholic beverages primarily because they appreciate the taste. If I drink a glass of wine with dinner I'm not about to feel any noticeable effects outside of the taste. I do it because I enjoy the taste. On the other hand, if I only had a choice between bad wine/beer, or a glass of water, I'll have the water.
Admittedly, on occasion I'll drink a bit more, and on those occasions I'll drink the good stuff first and the slightly less good stuff later when my palette's no longer at it's best! If people just wanted to get drunk and didn't like the taste wouldn't they just gulp down sugary cocktails or shots or something?

I honestly can't get past the alcohol taste, I can't taste anything else and to me, it's truly awful.

But then again I have many friends that can distinguish between different types of beers and wines and they very much like their own particular drink.
That's fair enough. I generally don't like drinks with high alcohol levels like whiskey or cognac myself, although there are a few exceptions. Usually they seem unbalanced and harsh to me. But not generally liking hogh conventrations of alcohol doesn't mean I don't like alcohol, or miss the taste when it's not there. I don't like really sweet drinks or deserts, and I don't like eating teaspoons of salt. That doesn't mean I wouldn't miss either salt or sugar if I tried to eliminate them from my diet!
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sscott43 wrote:
stillrollin wrote:
I'm going to be pre-emptive and say, WE DID IT!

Thanks again to our hostess and kudos to all those that played along.

I've stopped drinking twice in the past, primarily for weight loss. This started that way but became much more mental as I really focused on my relationship with booze (craft beer primarily).

In 31 days without alcohol I:
  1. broke the daily, post work IPA habit;
  2. realized that drinking alone (& justifying it) is really the little booze devil on my shoulder whispering demonic, habitual thoughts in my ear;
  3. generally felt better and better about myself and;
  4. lost 9 pounds ( I did eat better and began exercising regularly again, but they seem to go hand in hand).

I'm not going to place any hard rules on myself. I was contemplating no drinking Sun-Thurs but I think that sets myself up for failure. I still may have the occasional weeknight beer or a couple on the weekends but it's going to be more social and not habitual. As others have noted, I'm just going to be more self aware and make sure old habits don't return.

So, I won the no alcohol battle but my war on cancer continues with surgery and one time chemo blast next Thursday, 2/6 to hopefully eradicate this shit from my bladder.Thank you all for the positive vibes you've sent.

Keep on fighting the good fight(s). I will.

Hope yesterday’s chemo went ok and you’re on the road to recovery. I feel off the wagon hard last week (on a boys weekend and a trip to High West in park city was not an ideal way to come off a dry January) but have another 6 days dry in the bag. No alcohol “battle” is the right term for me - thinking about trying to go mostly dry until DK end of May but it’s a struggle to be sure with all the “wet” folks in my circle.

Appreciate it. My body tolerated the chemo this time & the surgery went well too. Biopsy sent to pathology, results next week. I feel good today and staying positive. Thanks again.

Funny you mentioned Park City, I’m heading there for the first time in March. PSYCHED!

As to drinking; as planned, I partied hard on 2/1 in Atlantic City. But I won $1400, and haven’t drank since. Win, win!

I think I found a nice balance.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I quit drinking in 2020 since we have legal weed now.
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cantholdus wrote:
I think it's only worth giving up alltogether too. There are lots of free rehabs, mostly christian centers, here's a list https://addictionresource.com/...-and-rehab-hotlines/. So in my opinion, if you can't quit yourself and you really want to do something with your life, there's nothing wrong with asking for help.

Yes. Ask for help if you need it.

My 2020 status is the same as its been for many many years. We are divorced, not speaking and never will again. My alcohol free life is very very good.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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just replying to last.

I'm being a lot more mindful and/or deliberate this year. A rather impactful rule I've self-imposed is no alcohol on consecutive days. While I really don't notice any changes from shifting my mild consumption to milder consumption (or moderate to mild, depending on where you draw your lines), it's definitely cheaper.

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I was doing 180 days in 2020 instead of all January.

Jan summary is 15 of 31 days and on track for Feb so far.
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Ai_1 wrote:
dunno wrote:
I find it hard to believe that anyone truly drinks alcohol because it 'tastes good'.
Seriously?
That's an astonishing comment (at least to me) and if you mean it, it shows remarkable ignorance.

Do you think people spend a lot more to get better quality wines, beers and spirits because they find them more bearable? or to be pretentious perhaps?
No, plenty people, myself included, drink alcoholic beverages primarily because they appreciate the taste. If I drink a glass of wine with dinner I'm not about to feel any noticeable effects outside of the taste. I do it because I enjoy the taste. On the other hand, if I only had a choice between bad wine/beer, or a glass of water, I'll have the water.
Admittedly, on occasion I'll drink a bit more, and on those occasions I'll drink the good stuff first and the slightly less good stuff later when my palette's no longer at it's best! If people just wanted to get drunk and didn't like the taste wouldn't they just gulp down sugary cocktails or shots or something?

I think it's you that's showing ignorance. Be honest with yourself. You could almost guarantee that if alcoholic drinks tasted the same but didn't have alcohol consumption woud be next to nothing.

Yeah yeah yeah, I too spend a lot to get a really nice bottle of whisky or wine, but that's because they taste considerably better than the cheap alternatives. But the reason for drinking in the first place is a little buzz, relaxation etc that is associated with alcohol. Not because it tastes great.
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Hmmm, no, I disagree. There have been times where I've been enjoying a phenomenal bottle of wine where I've been obsessed with the taste and then realize oh shit, I'm not going to stand up easily from this adventure. The stuff just tastes good. The alcohol content creates a chemical wash over your tastebuds that makes an experience for you if that's what you're seeking.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Did no alcohol Jan the last two years and then merrily went on drinking the rest of the year. This time has been much different, almost as if I have developed an intolerance to alcohol. I had two beers during the super bowl which was promptly followed by a headache and lethargy the next day. Haven't had a drop since and so far have a very limited desire to drink..which is surprising since I really enjoy the vino tinto!
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swimfan wrote:
I quit drinking in 2020 since we have legal weed now.

So next year we're gonna need a "Wet January" thread
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So, it's been a minute. I had my first "I really DO want to drink" experience last Friday, as the cap to a shitfuck week at work and a lot of other pent-up nonsense. I had three whole beers. They were all delicious. I felt like garbage the next day. So, lesson re-learned.

Sadly, my husband does not share this insight with me, nor enthusiasm about cutting out alcohol drastically from my lifestyle. It's frustrating to have to either tag along on adventures where drinking is the foundation (like going to a local brew house, or seeking out a new wien somewhere, etc) when all I want to do is try to gain some traction and positively reinforce my new, healthier habits. I snapped at him pretty hard about it on Saturday and hopefully the point stuck.

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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The social occasions where drinking is the foundation are tricky. Meeting friends at a bar/ restaurant is one thing, but touring a brewery is a whole different game. If your new relationship with alcohol is clear, an event like that will be more uninteresting than a temptation. You can't expect other people to change their behavior though (even your husband). You are doing this for yourself, and it is a sad fact that drinkers feel more comfortable around other drinkers (cognitive dissonance is unpleasant).
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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For those following, I'm HAPPY to report that my last scrapping just came back benign! I'll go back in 3 months to look at it again but all signs are positive. Then, hopefully, it's every 6 months for two years and I'm done with cancer. Yup, a giant FU to cancer this time!

Final note on this - if you have any symptoms (mine was blood in the urine after running) go to the doctor. Catching it early was key to a successful outcome.

Final, final note - still drinking way less; only on weekends and never solo.

Life is good! I wish you all the best.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [stillrollin] [ In reply to ]
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That is AMAZING news! Congrats! I'm so happy for you, I bet you'll be sleeping a bit better now, even being dry during the week ;)

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Dr_Cupcake wrote:
So, it's been a minute. I had my first "I really DO want to drink" experience last Friday, as the cap to a shitfuck week at work and a lot of other pent-up nonsense. I had three whole beers. They were all delicious. I felt like garbage the next day. So, lesson re-learned.

Sadly, my husband does not share this insight with me, nor enthusiasm about cutting out alcohol drastically from my lifestyle. It's frustrating to have to either tag along on adventures where drinking is the foundation (like going to a local brew house, or seeking out a new wien somewhere, etc) when all I want to do is try to gain some traction and positively reinforce my new, healthier habits. I snapped at him pretty hard about it on Saturday and hopefully the point stuck.

tough if your partner does not share the same perspective but stay strong - I've had a similar "post january" experience - even 2-3 drinks makes me feel "foggy" the next day and I can see how it impacts me in ways I did not even realize before...there are times when its OK to get that fogginess (wedding, bachelor / ette, etc) but definitely very far and few between!
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triczyk wrote:
I've had a similar "post january" experience - even 2-3 drinks makes me feel "foggy" the next day and I can see how it impacts me in ways I did not even realize before...there are times when its OK to get that fogginess (wedding, bachelor / ette, etc) but definitely very far and few between!

I've been feeling this way also. Two work trips since start of Feb. Going out for dinner with co-workers / colleagues always involves alcohol. Always. (that in itself I think says something our collective relationship with alcohol).

Trip 1, had 1 glass of wine at dinner one night, and felt good stopping at that point. Last night before leaving, the 2nd glass sounded good. Ended up feeling like crap getting on the plane the next morning (and, long flight, ugh)

Trip 2, this past week. Drank only one night (of 4) at dinner. Again added the 2nd glass, slept poorly, woke up with headache

I guess not too surprising: seems that drinking less means the alcohol affects me more when I do drink it.

Got home last night, normally would drink something as part of unwinding from the week. But I thought ... I'm gonna try not doing that this time. If I sit with the urge for a while, it will pass (for me anyway, I know everyone's not the same there)
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I just don't get the point of that stuff.

On topic, a few weeks back I drank bourbon like I was a college kid again downing jack. Difference was most of my stuff is 100 proof or higher. Well I had a bad night and threw up for a bit.

Since then I'm chilling. I only drink one day/Saturday. Week after I had a Yuengling, last week some Margaritas, and this week two ciders from a local cidery. Alcohol is really tough to deal with if you enjoy that but also enjoy performing early the next day, next week I have a long ride Saturday and then a Virtual 10k, so I'm probably not drinking at all next week.

Cheers and train hard.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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I’m in agreement that alcohol is tough to deal with if you enjoy performing early next day, which is why I stopped drinking alcohol almost two years ago and switched to NA beer. To each their own, but it’s been the best of both worlds for me—I’m not missing out on drinking and I never have to compromise my training or think about how drinking may impact my next workout.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triguy1984] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the code! I love the stuff and ordered some more. I haven’t quit alcohol completely (still love a Sierra Nevada draft now and then), but I agree with you that this is the best of both worlds; no alcohol and tastes great.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [triguy1984] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the code, ordered some. Hopefully it is good, since most of the NA beers I tried so far is crap :(
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triguy1984 wrote:
I’m in agreement that alcohol is tough to deal with if you enjoy performing early next day, which is why I stopped drinking alcohol almost two years ago and switched to NA beer. To each their own, but it’s been the best of both worlds for me—I’m not missing out on drinking and I never have to compromise my training or think about how drinking may impact my next workout.

My problem is alcohol doesn't seem to impact my performance-I can drink 3/4 a bottle of whisky and then the next morning smash out 4 hours at 200+watt av and feel terrific...I have a love hate relationship with alcohol, hate it most of the time but love it when I'm drinking it. One is too much and 2 is not enough certainly springs to mind..
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dunno wrote:
One is too much and 2 is not enough certainly springs to mind..

“I like to have a martini, Two at the very most. After three I'm under the table, after four I'm under my host.” ― Dorothy Parker

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [crayzeee] [ In reply to ]
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crayzeee wrote:
Thanks for the code, ordered some. Hopefully it is good, since most of the NA beers I tried so far is crap :(

Try Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher. It's a hoppy seltzer, 0 carb, 0 alcohol and 0 calories. Tastes like a really light IPA...way better than N/A beers IMO.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [cassinonorth] [ In reply to ]
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I had social distanced my relationship with alcohol pretty well until social distancing became popular and everyone was doing it so we decided it wasn't worth social distancing anymore. Maybe when races resumes social distancing will happen again.
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Don't so much anymore but that last couple months of SD the habit started creeping back up. Daily 2 beers in the evening while I chill out. Not a huge problem, but I always feel kind of shitty and can't sleep, and with the greater volume with all this free time its not ideal.
It seems I'm really only after a cold beverage that isn't water as ive been drinking it all day. I made the switch to soda haha, although trading 1 vice for the other I'm sure its still better than the boos. Might start brewing decaf ice tea instead

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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Reset on old post that may be even more important w/ the spike in alcohol consumption this year. I found I definitely wasn't immune as a triathlete. Tried to summarize struggles, some of the strategies I used and the various lessons learned through the process in this video. Hoping it's helpful to a few folks here:
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Another factor to consider from Marco Altini....

The impact of alcohol on heart rate variability, our ANS and the overall strength of our recovery systems.

Personally, I think our nervous system is under enough stress this year without throwing alcohol into the mix Smile



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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Ironcoop] [ In reply to ]
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I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now

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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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Haven't had any alcohol (or coffee) since New Year's Eve. Not an issue of addiction, just no interest in it.

Today I do what others won't, so tomorrow I can do what others can't.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Ironcoop] [ In reply to ]
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I watched this yesterday - those of us do dry January were probably nodding along in agreement to a lot of it. I know that I have VERY strong food/wine associations so I try to make sure I cook new recipes that don't have the same associations.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Scheherazade] [ In reply to ]
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Very glad to hear. Thanks for saying so.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [cassinonorth] [ In reply to ]
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cassinonorth wrote:
Try Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher. It's a hoppy seltzer, 0 carb, 0 alcohol and 0 calories. Tastes like a really light IPA...way better than N/A beers IMO.
+ 1000 on the Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher

Super clean tasting, has the carbonation that makes it feel sort of substantial.

Another thing that is interesting to do - track your blood pressure over time. Alcohol typically increases blood pressure.
To appeal to the "measure everything" triathlete, BP is another metric that can demonstrate empirical results.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [WatchJoeTri] [ In reply to ]
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Haven't had any alcohol (or coffee) since New Year's Eve. Not an issue of addiction, just no interest in it.

I would agree with this.

I used to be on a 1-beer per day pattern. Not unhealthy. But still a bit more "regular drinker" than I felt comfortable being.

After the "ST alcohol challenge" I switched to 1 beer per week. For a while I looked forward to that one.

Now I don't. I think it's been like 5-6 weeks I've just skipped it for lack of interest.

I'll still have a beer once in a while, I'm sure, but it's at a lifelong low-ebb in interest since before college.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [WatchJoeTri] [ In reply to ]
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WatchJoeTri wrote:
Haven't had any alcohol (or coffee) since New Year's Eve. Not an issue of addiction, just no interest in it.

How did you kick the coffee habit ?
Luckily alcohol I can take or leave (usually leave as I do most training in the evenings and more want a glass of milk when I get back).

But coffee ? That would be properly hard to shake off.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [BobAjobb] [ In reply to ]
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But coffee ? That would be properly hard to shake off.

I did that too. A couple months cold turkey. Headaches and lethargy for a couple of days. Then I was mostly fine.

I've gradually been introducing a *little* caffeine back into my life. The beauty of that is that it *works* again. One coffee per day at just the right time is really nice.

When you're on the 4-5 coffee/day trip (as I was), it no longer "works."
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [BobAjobb] [ In reply to ]
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The coffee thing was easy to kick cause I never really really started haha. Definitely have had less than 10 cups in my life (for reference I'm 35).

But since more people don't have to drive to work, I assume that makes it easier not to need coffee.

Today I do what others won't, so tomorrow I can do what others can't.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now
this
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [JAA] [ In reply to ]
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JAA wrote:
RandMart wrote:
I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now
this

Yes, I drank a lot too August 1-15th, but back to normal now not drinking hardly at all.

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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Ironcoop] [ In reply to ]
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My relationship was going well down to one glass of red a week until I broke my toes tonight. So that relationship will likely change to a lot of Jack Daniels the next few days...
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now
Quitter!!!
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I have been dealing with depression for 6 months. It is alot better but persistant anxiety in the mornings. The depression meds are a bitch causing prostate issues and constipation. An ounce of spirits in am seems to help alot and nearly less side effects.

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RandMart wrote:
I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now

My youngest brother called me on Christmas Eve [he called everyone, actually, one at a time]

He sent himself to rehab for alcoholism

The ironic things is that just a week before, when he, D'Kid & I, were at our other brother's house, watching my Mom [whose Alzheimer's has really ramped up over the past months, as my step-dad has been in the hospital frequently], Mare &I commented on the "wine cellar" they have

My youngest brother said to D'Kid "I hate wine. I hate hard liquor, too. I don't even like strong beer - like those craft beers your dad likes. I'm happy with just a Miller Lite"

The truth is, he was drinking a 6-pack or more of "just Miller Lite" every day

This caused my other brother & I to re-evaluate our own consumption [there's a fourth brother in our family - we're four boys - who said "a six-pack? that's not a problem"]

Dry January 2021 may be in the offering

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Alan Couzens] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. I've drank more this year than any other in my life. The majority of that volume was whiskey. I'm having less volume with cider or a red wine variant. I see this event trend as more of a stress/frustration induced choice; not too worried about it though as the new DA build proceeds and I can return to a usual training routine. 2020 has been a rotten year which I would like to forget about.

Best wishes for 2021...
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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RandMart wrote:
Dry January 2021 may be in the offering

Get after it!

I did the 2019 version of this, and now have maybe one beer per month or so. Pretty happy with that.

I'll jump on again this go around, just because.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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January 2nd, 2021 will mark 13 years without a drop of alcohol for me. As I posted last year, my life is infinitely better without alcohol. There are tens of thousands of healthy ways to cope with stress, celebrate with friends, and relax that do not involve alcohol.

If alcohol simply did not exist in this world there would be a lot less tragedy and death. Alcohol has destroyed millions of lives.

Molecularly alcohol is poison. It's not medicine. Chemically alcohol is a pure toxin the body immediately works to eliminate. It's not supposed to be in the human body period.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Molecularly alcohol is poison. It's not medicine. Chemically alcohol is a pure toxin the body immediately works to eliminate. It's not supposed to be in the human body period. \\\

The problem with this is you could say it about every drug people take for mental stuff. Alcohol is not meant to make the body feel better, it is for the brain. It is how the human race has been self medicating since the first bread batch went sour. I think if we did look at it like "medicine", then we could get a much better handle on it with those that abuse it, and those that have real physical problems with it.

I cut down a couple years ago to one beer a night, maybe once a week or so. During the holidays I have gone just about every night, but just one beer. Feel like that is a good place to be, not burdening myself with total abstinence, and giving myself permission to have a beer once in awhile and stopping after one..I think a lot of folks could also do good with diets and food eliminating using this method, but what do I know...
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RandMart wrote:
RandMart wrote:
I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now


My youngest brother called me on Christmas Eve [he called everyone, actually, one at a time]

He sent himself to rehab for alcoholism

The ironic things is that just a week before, when he, D'Kid & I, were at our other brother's house, watching my Mom [whose Alzheimer's has really ramped up over the past months, as my step-dad has been in the hospital frequently], Mare &I commented on the "wine cellar" they have

My youngest brother said to D'Kid "I hate wine. I hate hard liquor, too. I don't even like strong beer - like those craft beers your dad likes. I'm happy with just a Miller Lite"

The truth is, he was drinking a 6-pack or more of "just Miller Lite" every day

This caused my other brother & I to re-evaluate our own consumption [there's a fourth brother in our family - we're four boys - who said "a six-pack? that's not a problem"]

Dry January 2021 may be in the offering

Good on him for taking that step.

-Signed,
An alcoholic in recovery ending another year sober.

2021 relationship will be the same. I will always guard myself against this. The disease doesn't go away, we just stay sober and grow in recovery.
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turdburgler wrote:

-Signed,
An alcoholic in recovery ending another year sober.

2021 relationship will be the same. I will always guard myself against this. The disease doesn't go away, we just stay sober and grow in recovery.

In AA, we learned that the monkey on your back just goes to sleep but never goes away. The trick it not to wake it up. That was one of the best things I got from AA. But after 5 years of meetings, and them telling me I had a character defect I needed to fix, I had had just about enough of that shit. I haven't been back. I've come to find out, that for me, addiction is a character TRAIT. As soon as I quit fighting it, and started channeling it into positive things, it becomes a super power. I channeled it into music, and spent a combined 19 years in two bands, before covid took our venues away. I channeled into my work, and made enough extra money to pay my house off in 4 years, and retire early. And of course I channel it into my athletics, and do OK as an age grouper in local races. I still live ODAAT, and Lord willing will go over 30 years sober next month. That's half my life! I know myself enough, to know that one beer, one shot, one glass, will wake up the monkey. I might blow it some day. But not today. I have too much to live for.

Athlinks / Strava
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First of congratulations, that is awesome. However one needs to get sober I fully support that.

I agree, don't wake that monkey up and don't go to sleep on it! I also agree that it truly is a superpower. I too have channeled it in to positive things. Music is one of them for me as well as others. I have no doubt I wouldn't excel at them if I was built differently.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
Molecularly alcohol is poison. It's not medicine. Chemically alcohol is a pure toxin the body immediately works to eliminate. It's not supposed to be in the human body period. \\\

The problem with this is you could say it about every drug people take for mental stuff. Alcohol is not meant to make the body feel better, it is for the brain. It is how the human race has been self medicating since the first bread batch went sour. I think if we did look at it like "medicine", then we could get a much better handle on it with those that abuse it, and those that have real physical problems with it.

I cut down a couple years ago to one beer a night, maybe once a week or so. During the holidays I have gone just about every night, but just one beer. Feel like that is a good place to be, not burdening myself with total abstinence, and giving myself permission to have a beer once in awhile and stopping after one..I think a lot of folks could also do good with diets and food eliminating using this method, but what do I know...

It's dangerous to look at it as medicine because it's not. It's even worse cause it disguises itself as medicine because initially it takes away anxiety and leaves us feeling with a peace of mind. But it's a false peace of mind and over time you need more and more of it, and eventually it stops working but you still need it and your body needs to be detoxified.

My 12 year old daughter's best friend was run over and killed by a drunk driver. I can't express the damage that did to my daughter, our community and the family of the child killed. My biological father was an alcoholic and died and early death because all his organs failed. And I never knew him. Their are holistic methods, Easter and Western medicines new and old to relax and treat depression and anxiety. Alcohol should never be one of them.

There are a percentage of people that have an allergy to alcohol that creates a phenomenon of craving that leads to a mental obsession and eventual physical addiction. It's a progression that is very slow in some and faster in others. Sometimes it takes a life altering event like a loss of a loved one; loss of job; or a pandemic and that accelerates the progression and you suddenly find you cannot function without it.

If you're one of the normal people who can have one drink and put it down without issue. More power to you. My wife of almost 20 years has a drink or two once in a while -- and I'm fine with it cause she doesn't abuse it, she doesn't have the allergy, and she doesn't use it as a coping mechanism. And she can easily go months without it. IMO the world would be a much, much better place if it never existed.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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I dont disagree with anything you have said, was merely pointing out that folks drink for the brain, not the body. Like you I have seen many people die from alcohol, and at best just screw up their lives. For many it is like crack and they cannot shake it as easily as you or I, or anyone else that just does not have the gene or proclivity to over indulge.

Yes like your wife I'm lucky in that I can turn it off and on at the flip of a switch. Don't need it, but enjoy the taste and the very minor buzz I get from my one beer on an empty stomach. I know others that is just the beginning to a long night, no illusions here about how bad and deadly it can be...
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I think I've started to wrangle myself. For a part of 2020 there were a few weeks I was drinking every day which was a new thing. There was a period of 6 weeks early with lockdowns where I didn't drink at all. I'd gone back to drinking on weekends for most of the summer. But there were weekends where I drank with the boys and also just ate like an asshole. Went to a few bourbon dinners etc. Well in November I stepped on the scale. My training had fallen off completely once Ironman Traverse City 70.3 was cancelled and then I deferred IMAZ to 2021.

So I saw this number and said. Well moderation doesn't work for me unless I'm really fit. And I'm not remotely fit right now. So from Mid November to Dec 26th I didn't drink but one day. Now starting January 2nd I'm probably going dry for all of January, maybe even February. But this isn't just in regards to Alcohol, but also sweets. No ice cream, no chocolate, etc. For me at least, going Cold Turkey on everything is the best way I can support my diet. And once I'm fit again, I'll enjoy a pour or a beer or a serving of ice cream on a weekend. And fit is at least 30 pounds away right now.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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September 27th marked four years sober for me. I'm very happy with the decision, my life has progressed so much. It was a little difficult at first because I work with alcohol everyday, but these days it's pretty easy to deal with.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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I have had a questionable relationship with alcohol for a couple years now. COVID has caused that to become a bit more serious.

I’m looking forward to completing my first IM in Madison in 2021. I think a dry January, and hopefully a reset on my habits afterwards, will be beneficial.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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I am planning to do one as well and trying to get the Mrs to join.

Since March I have had at least a 1/2 bottle of wine every night. She is drinking vodka every night as well. I think that we both need to reset.

Next races on the schedule: none at the moment
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [alex_korr] [ In reply to ]
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I have multiple beers a day and more on the weekend but I rarely ever have a hangover. (1-2) times a year.

I haven’t gone more than a day or two without a drink since before I was 21.

I have a pretty good handle on it and I don’t drive so that’s not an issue. I drink plenty of fluids. I rarely find it negatively impacts my training and have some of my best workouts after a heavier night drinking.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [MiRoBu] [ In reply to ]
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MiRoBu wrote:
I haven’t gone more than a day or two without a drink since before I was 21.

And you're what ... 22 now?

https://www.strava.com/...tes/zachary_mckinney
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Benv] [ In reply to ]
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Try athletic brewing. I gave up alcohol 2 years ago and had a few of Athletic Brewing NA and it is as good as the real thing or as close as you can get.
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ericallenboyd wrote:
Try athletic brewing. I gave up alcohol 2 years ago and had a few of Athletic Brewing NA and it is as good as the real thing or as close as you can get.
I very much doubt you've had classic Trappists if you are going to call something non-alcoholic 'the real thing'.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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plant_based wrote:
MiRoBu wrote:
I haven’t gone more than a day or two without a drink since before I was 21.

And you're what ... 22 now?

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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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TheStroBro wrote:
Now starting January 2nd I'm probably going dry for all of January, maybe even February. But this isn't just in regards to Alcohol, but also sweets. No ice cream, no chocolate, etc.



j/k. of course

Everyone's journey is different, and some people require more lubrication than others

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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as dry january approaches we still got 4 bottles of red wine to empty and a number of beer bottles to clear,usually our relationship with alcohol is confined to winter months but as nothing happened race wise over summer so it was nice to sit out of a summers night with a cold beer or nice glass of red wine
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [stivrunning] [ In reply to ]
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Had my annual check-up today and my primary didn't even ask about alcohol

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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ericallenboyd wrote:
Try athletic brewing. I gave up alcohol 2 years ago and had a few of Athletic Brewing NA and it is as good as the real thing or as close as you can get.

This is like people eating Beyond Meat stuff. I don't understand it. If you want to give up alcohol, give it up. Drinking fake beer basically means you're still addicted to the taste of that stuff.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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In my last couple years of sobriety from alcohol, when struggling with other addictive patterns, I realized that I am a “high-seeker” - so in 2021 I am looking forward to another year of getting high on life!

Of course, a big generator of my daily life-highs come from triathlon training, and the seeking of those highs positively feeds hunger for performance and growth :)

To put a spin on an earlier comment, the monkey is always awake so I just keep feeding him things other than external substances!
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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Gratz on your sobriety. I quit drinking Jan 5th, 2020. Next week is my 1 year mark. I couldn't do it on my own. Had to swallow my pride and ask for help because I knew I was trying to drink myself to death.
Went to 5 week in-patient rehab in February and went I got out, the world was burning and everyone was struggling, but this year has been a massively huge improvement for my mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual health. I've had to relearn what a non-intoxicating dopamine hit feels like and learn be happy with that.....rather than needing some artificial booster to grease the wheels of conversation and fun.

For me, life is much more manageable now. A lot less crazy. Less wild stories and near misses. But, much more stable and less fear, anxiety, regrets and depression.

Also, I lost around 40lbs, so I managed to get to down to a respectable race weight and actually look pretty good lycra, which is a bonus.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [FasterTwitch] [ In reply to ]
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I’m a several years ahead of you and also not anonymous...so don’t usually talk about stuff like this but when Covid hit I just remember thinking that going through the process would have been 10x harder last winter than when I went through it initially a few years ago.

Serious kudos, not sure if I could have done it last year.

Maurice
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [mauricemaher] [ In reply to ]
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I had my last drink in 2005, previously I had put in a hard 10 year shift, im with out a doubt alcoholic!!

My Mother and youngest Brother both passed away this year from drinking, my Dad's been sober for 35 years, and yes I have the disease.

I never did the AA thing, found sobriety through God, and a pair of old running shoes that I decided to put to use after a cold spring day in 2005. Triathlon changed my life.

Anyone out there struggling with alcohol is not alone, alot of us struggle. There is a better life waiting for you, and I admire everyone that has struggled and found the way out. God bless!! I'm ready for 2021.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [M&M Tri] [ In reply to ]
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I just love reading the past few responses. Kudos to you!

Just superb states of mind.

I’m very happy to read these comments.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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we had to break up.. after the afib etc, doctor recommended quitting caffeine, alcohol, and strenuous exercise. All of my favorite drugs, gone in one fell swoop..
Did none of those for 3 months then started up real slow.
I do drink real coffee on the weekend mornings when not on call, figure the stress is a lot lower than in the work week. Also a glass of wine at dinner on weekends, for the mental health aspects. Skinny, sober and thinking too much, is no way to go through life..
The double Scotch isn't happening any more, sadly. As ever this abstinence produces no change in weight, sleep, athletic or mental performance. Mood is frankly worse with nothing in between me and the quotidian..
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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TheStroBro wrote:
ericallenboyd wrote:
Try athletic brewing. I gave up alcohol 2 years ago and had a few of Athletic Brewing NA and it is as good as the real thing or as close as you can get.


This is like people eating Beyond Meat stuff. I don't understand it. If you want to give up alcohol, give it up. Drinking fake beer basically means you're still addicted to the taste of that stuff.

That's a bit of a brutal come back.
Equating zero alcohol substitutes with an addiction is a bit superficial.
You don't get "addicted" to the "taste" of beer etc when you are an alcoholic. I see zero issues with people who enjoy the taste of beer etc but do not want to consume alcohol substituting it for something with zero alcohol in it. If it means they stay sober and avoid the issues associated with consuming alcohol then why is it an issue?
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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If I want to enjoy that fermented/brewed rotten taste, a kombucha scratches the itch.
Also, here in Japan, a true top shelf barrel fermented soy sauce has complexity and boozy undertones that are like nothing else. It's alcohol free, but has a fermented hit and some notes you just don't get from the table stuff. I highly recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/...atives/dp/B005GQYXTC
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [mrfreeze] [ In reply to ]
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mrfreeze wrote:
In my last couple years of sobriety from alcohol, when struggling with other addictive patterns, I realized that I am a “high-seeker” - so in 2021 I am looking forward to another year of getting high on life!

Of course, a big generator of my daily life-highs come from triathlon training, and the seeking of those highs positively feeds hunger for performance and growth :)

To put a spin on an earlier comment, the monkey is always awake so I just keep feeding him things other than external substances!

The world is awash in stories of people who gave up drinking or drugs for the endurance lifestyle

Be warned: Endorphin Withdrawal can be an equally terrible thing to experience if something goes wrong [injury, as a prime example] and horrible to watch

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm a long time lurker who rarely posts. The title of this thread,Your 2020 relationship with alcohol is tugging at me to post.

October 1 , 2020, my fiance died from complications due to alcoholism. He was 41. I knew that he drank, but had no clue how much as we did not live together, nor see each other every day. His family chose not to disclose the reason for his death, so I haven't told many people, but posting it here is a bit cathartic, so thanks for that.
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [AAL] [ In reply to ]
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That's terrible; so sorry for your loss

Thank you for trusting us enough to share

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you. I appreciate your thoughts.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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TheStroBro wrote:
ericallenboyd wrote:
Try athletic brewing. I gave up alcohol 2 years ago and had a few of Athletic Brewing NA and it is as good as the real thing or as close as you can get.

This is like people eating Beyond Meat stuff. I don't understand it. If you want to give up alcohol, give it up. Drinking fake beer basically means you're still addicted to the taste of that stuff.

I think you're missing the point.
I gave up caffeine because it was giving me some health problems around the time my daughter was born.

I still drink decaf because I like the taste of coffee. Could I give it up entirely? I'm sure I could. But why? I didn't need to quit coffee, I needed to quit caffeine.

Same thing goes for alcohol. It's not the beer that's causing the issues, it's the alcohol within the beer. If you can enjoy a non alcoholic beer without issue, where's the harm?

Long Chile was a silly place.
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AAL wrote:
I'm a long time lurker who rarely posts. The title of this thread,Your 2020 relationship with alcohol is tugging at me to post.

October 1 , 2020, my fiance died from complications due to alcoholism. He was 41. I knew that he drank, but had no clue how much as we did not live together, nor see each other every day. His family chose not to disclose the reason for his death, so I haven't told many people, but posting it here is a bit cathartic, so thanks for that.

Wow, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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RandMart wrote:
mrfreeze wrote:
In my last couple years of sobriety from alcohol, when struggling with other addictive patterns, I realized that I am a “high-seeker” - so in 2021 I am looking forward to another year of getting high on life!

Of course, a big generator of my daily life-highs come from triathlon training, and the seeking of those highs positively feeds hunger for performance and growth :)

To put a spin on an earlier comment, the monkey is always awake so I just keep feeding him things other than external substances!


The world is awash in stories of people who gave up drinking or drugs for the endurance lifestyle

Be warned: Endorphin Withdrawal can be an equally terrible thing to experience if something goes wrong [injury, as a prime example] and horrible to watch


I do appreciate this feedback, and it's something that's been on my mind! Not only the risk of losing the ability to train, but also that the transfer of focus from one outlet/space of addictive patterns to another is not the same as shaking the pattern altogether (and so questioning whether I have actually made progress).
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Yeah, there definitely seems to be a genetic component. Both sides of my family are littered with alcoholics, addicts, and impulsive individuals with different mental health issues. It seems that certain individuals are predisposed to addiction and impulsive behaviors, and if they manage to channel it into a positive/creative direction, they can get do impressive things. Or, they destroy themselves. Or, they screw up, get in trouble and then overcorrect in the other direction.

When I accepted I had the brain chemistry and genetics of an addict, it was easier to seek treatment, rather than to blame myself.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [FasterTwitch] [ In reply to ]
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FasterTwitch wrote:
Yeah, there definitely seems to be a genetic component. Both sides of my family are littered with alcoholics, addicts, and impulsive individuals with different mental health issues.

My dad had a tremendous drinking problem that cost him several jobs, a couple homes, and eventually his family, and then his life; however, I never knew my paternal grandparents to drink, other than my grandmom's Sunday after-dinner sherry

My mom's side is a whole other story - alcoholics all around: grandpop, grandmom, and both of my uncles; my cousin became a drug addict, and he died before he was 20

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [dtoce] [ In reply to ]
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For me taking a year off alcohol was my intro to triathlon - the oneyearnobeer.com program encourages you to sign up for a physical challenge in the first week and I'm so grateful they do! Great excuse to buy a bike and then dip toes in the water literally getting familiar with the open water and the absolute joy of entering and completing several events.

That was November 2018 - I've been AF since then, lost 50lb, feeling happier, less stressed, no hangovers and doing my first 70.3 next September. It's been a huge improvement to my life and can thoroughly recommend the oynb emails for motivation - and signing up as a way of making that commitment to yourself, even if it's just for 28 or 90 days.

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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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I'm thoroughly enjoying reading this thread.

I was hot and heavy into TRIs from 2012-2016, but due to lots of reasons(mostly my kids and the responsibilities that come with them), I stopped doing TRIs and really haven't been doing much to live a healthy, active life since then. I LOL'd at a post I made back in 2016 about how upset I was about "letting myself get fat" @ 185#... because that is exactly what my goal weight is at the moment.. Currently 6', 205 and desperately needing to get my health and fitness back.

A big component of my weight gain(aside from being sedentary) has been my love for craft beer.... I love it, and I am drinking WAY too much.... plus with alcoholism running in my family(both parents are alcoholics, my Dad passed in 2019 due to alcoholism) it seems like a great place to start!

I also signed up for a marathon in October.. I always find it easier to get my butt out and run when I have a race on the calendar.

Thanks for all the stories and advice, here's to a great 2021!!
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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This will be my third year starting the year with Dry January.

My first go through showed me how much more I enjoy my life without drinking which was (at the time) surprising because I considered beer or wine a pretty fun part of my life and was convinced that it wasn't impacting my life. But it was. The biggest change I always notice is the better sleep.

I'm do not totally abstain from alcohol all the time and to be honest the stress and ennui of parts of this year I have filled with more wine than normal. I'm ready for dry January. ;-)

I've done some research and reading on sobriety and the sober curious movement in prep for interviews and because I was just curious. People have different opinions on the efficacy or benefit of "replacement drinks." On the one hand there is a lot of potential supportive research in habit change that it works fastest to replace one behavior with a similar behavior that has a more desirable result. If you want to eat chips because they are crunchy - eat carrots which are also crunchy. All of the crunch none of the fat. Then again some people would say eating carrots does not always kick the urge to eat potato chips and then you just eat carrots and later potato chips.

Several recovery organizations are outspoken against the concept of replacement drinks because it blurs the line of acceptable behaviors. Leads to a slippery slope. Probably, the reality will be different for each person. Figuring out which patterns of behavior support bad habits seems to almost always be a good start to setting up new habits.
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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [Miamiamy] [ In reply to ]
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Miamiamy wrote:
This will be my third year starting the year with Dry January.

My first go through showed me how much more I enjoy my life without drinking which was (at the time) surprising because I considered beer or wine a pretty fun part of my life and was convinced that it wasn't impacting my life. But it was. The biggest change I always notice is the better sleep.

I'm do not totally abstain from alcohol all the time and to be honest the stress and ennui of parts of this year I have filled with more wine than normal. I'm ready for dry January. ;-)

I've done some research and reading on sobriety and the sober curious movement in prep for interviews and because I was just curious. People have different opinions on the efficacy or benefit of "replacement drinks." On the one hand there is a lot of potential supportive research in habit change that it works fastest to replace one behavior with a similar behavior that has a more desirable result. If you want to eat chips because they are crunchy - eat carrots which are also crunchy. All of the crunch none of the fat. Then again some people would say eating carrots does not always kick the urge to eat potato chips and then you just eat carrots and later potato chips.

Non-alcoholic seltzers - for me - have that crack of opening the can, and the fizz of a beer, and are just as refreshing after a workout [sometimes more so]; I just don't pour them into a pint glass

Ginger ale and other sodas have too much sodium for me/my tummy

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Re: No Alcohol January 2020 [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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Non-alcoholic seltzers - for me - have that crack of opening the can, and the fizz of a beer, and are just as refreshing after a workout [sometimes more so]; I just don't pour them into a pint glass

Ginger ale and other sodas have too much sodium for me/my tummy

Definitely agree. I always drink less booze when I have LaCroix or something similar around the house.
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I think you're missing the point.
I gave up caffeine because it was giving me some health problems around the time my daughter was born.

I still drink decaf because I like the taste of coffee. Could I give it up entirely? I'm sure I could. But why? I didn't need to quit coffee, I needed to quit caffeine.

Same thing goes for alcohol. It's not the beer that's causing the issues, it's the alcohol within the beer. If you can enjoy a non alcoholic beer without issue, where's the harm?

Not missing the point at all. Just saying that you can totally be addicted to how something tastes.

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RandMart wrote:
Non-alcoholic seltzers - for me - have that crack of opening the can, and the fizz of a beer, and are just as refreshing after a workout [sometimes more so]; I just don't pour them into a pint glass

Ginger ale and other sodas have too much sodium for me/my tummy


Definitely agree. I always drink less booze when I have LaCroix or something similar around the house.

It's kinda funny how I came to this realization

I've always been one to desire a beer after a workout [although, when training on the Dawn Patrol, sometimes you have to wait 12-16 hours for that post-workout beer], but one Summer day, after an especially hot, long bike ride, the only beer I really wanted was ... a root beer!!!

A&W, Mug, Stewarts, Pennsylvania Dutch ... didn't matter!!! It was the weirdest craving

So, I went to the Rite Aid up the street and got myself one

I had the real beer later

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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Well hello there!

My inbox has been blowing up lately with replies to this thread, so obviously that means it's time to close this year out (THANK FUCK) and start up the thread for 2021. I did so already, but wanted to share the rest of my 2020 story with everyone.

Obviously in the Before Times, fresh of the heels of January's success, I was being really good about my alcohol intake. I had many races to train for, after all! Well, then that all changed, and I went into a bit of a fuckitYOLO mode. Beer on ANY night of the week? Sign my ass up! There were also some low points to navigate as well- I lost three members of my family this year during the pandemic, each one dealing a harsher blow and accumulating some serious unresolved grief. I managed to keep moving, but I was definitely drinking more than I had set out for back in January.

Then, one random early day in September, my body kind of snapped to. NO MAS, it cried. And I stayed totally alcohol-free until the day the election was called in November and had a very excellent EH Taylor Single Barrel with friends over Zoom. Honestly, during that time? I felt GREAT. Weight had shed, sleep was less fleeting, I was feeling very much my normal chipper Cupcake self again.

Does this mean I've totally gone sober? No. But I can honestly count on one hand the number of times I've had alcohol since September, and I'm totally cool with that. I'm also back in honest-to-god training mode again for a self-inflicted unsupported triathlon for my milestone birthday in March, so that's making it easier to stay on the wagon.

One of my secret weapons has been distilled botanicals like Seedlip and Ritual. I had sworn I'd never use these because it's just not in the spirit of being alcohol-free, but let's be real- water is boring as fuck. So I've enjoyed various concoctions of a virgin Pimms Cup, hot cider with peaty spicy goodness minus the whisky, and a seltzer or tonic with a juniper-filled Ritual over ice. There is a great new recipe book out there for "mocktails", but I find I don't have the energy to make any of that myself after a long day (and there's no way I could make one as well as a trained bartender. OMG REMEMBER BARS? ::sob::)

Anyways, thought I'd pop in and give a major thumbs up to those of you who are continuing your sobriety through this dumpster fire of a year, and invite those of you who are ready to shake things up a bit for the better over to the 2021 thread.

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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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What an interesting thread.

Going in to 2020 I had just done a full year or so of sobriety. Not so much motivated by an addiction (though there were times I definitely overdid it in 2018 or so) but because I wanted to see how my body reacted. Turns out I sleep better and train better, and I'm generally a better person to be around when I'm not drinking (though I suspect that last one has a low bar ;). Who knew?

Turning 40 in 2020 led to a fun evening with drinks and friends, but I've not had a ton of alcohol this year. As we head into 2021 I'll probably have one more drink or two around new years tomorrow and then call it quits for 2021 to focus on training and life in general. More things that bring me energy, fewer things that can zap it.
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FasterTwitch wrote:
Gratz on your sobriety. I quit drinking Jan 5th, 2020. Next week is my 1 year mark. I couldn't do it on my own. Had to swallow my pride and ask for help because I knew I was trying to drink myself to death.
Went to 5 week in-patient rehab in February and went I got out, the world was burning and everyone was struggling, but this year has been a massively huge improvement for my mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual health. I've had to relearn what a non-intoxicating dopamine hit feels like and learn be happy with that.....rather than needing some artificial booster to grease the wheels of conversation and fun.

For me, life is much more manageable now. A lot less crazy. Less wild stories and near misses. But, much more stable and less fear, anxiety, regrets and depression.

Also, I lost around 40lbs, so I managed to get to down to a respectable race weight and actually look pretty good lycra, which is a bonus.

Congrats!! So awesome to hear. And you reminded me how much weight Iost when I quit drinking. I was a Size 38 waist 235+ pounds and within 3 to 4 few months of quitting I was down to 190 lbs, 34 inch waist. I was also drinking a lot of dark beer. This morning I was 175 lbs, 32 inch waist. LIFE IS VERY GOOD!!! I'm happy, joyous and free :-)
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monty wrote:
Molecularly alcohol is poison. It's not medicine. Chemically alcohol is a pure toxin the body immediately works to eliminate. It's not supposed to be in the human body period. \\\

The problem with this is you could say it about every drug people take for mental stuff. Alcohol is not meant to make the body feel better, it is for the brain. It is how the human race has been self medicating since the first bread batch went sour. I think if we did look at it like "medicine", then we could get a much better handle on it with those that abuse it, and those that have real physical problems with it.

I cut down a couple years ago to one beer a night, maybe once a week or so. During the holidays I have gone just about every night, but just one beer. Feel like that is a good place to be, not burdening myself with total abstinence, and giving myself permission to have a beer once in awhile and stopping after one..I think a lot of folks could also do good with diets and food eliminating using this method, but what do I know...

I'm with you. I like good wine and bourbon but maybe have one glass once a week. I self medicate with chips/cheese/chocolate.

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Re: Your 2020 relationship with alcohol [Dr_Cupcake] [ In reply to ]
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My 2020 relationship with Alcohol???
it was close,a very close one...Alcohol and I sometimes would be annoyed with my wife someday...this is how close we were!
Specially on that election night (week)

Joke aside, plan to do a Dry January, possibly even February if I can. Even the wife is on board !!!
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of my best workouts after a heavier night drinking.

Is there a science behind that? If I have a big night, i would probably struggle, but a light-medium night of drinking can see some pretty good training session times.
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MiRoBu wrote:
of my best workouts after a heavier night drinking.

Is there a science behind that? If I have a big night, i would probably struggle, but a light-medium night of drinking can see some pretty good training session times.

Not an exact one but pace to HR ratio seems better at times. I feel like I sit a good 2-3 bpm average below normal.
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RandMart wrote:
I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now


My youngest brother called me on Christmas Eve [he called everyone, actually, one at a time]

He sent himself to rehab for alcoholism

He came from his stay Saturday morning

He said "Dude, I was in there with some hard-core drug addicts ... there were a couple times I had to say 'Sorry, I was just drinking too much Bud Light'"

I got an image in my mind of the part of "Alice's Restaurant" ...

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"What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Litterin'"

And they all moved away from me on the bench there
And the hairy eyeball, and all kinds of mean nasty things
'Til I said, "And creatin' a nuisance"

And they all came back, shook my hand
And we had a great time on the bench

YMMV

"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
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I started 2020 off with the little yoyo of a partly dry January for several weeks, then back into an avg of two per night of the "fda per male size" drinks.

Then got some wicked food poisoning from some Indian takeout mid-summer and my body swore off both Indian takeout and alcohol for about another 3 weeks.

Then it was back to the same. Broken up by random times at night I didn't want anything at all.

The low point was the Thanksgiving and Christmas time off work this year. I would do my 2 glasses of vino each night but was tossing on a good bit for the holiday meals and the takeout nights. Gained a couple pounds. Backed off now for going back to work for 2021.

I decided this time around I was NOT doing anything dry in January. I saw the 2020 dry start as just a yoyo and excuse to go for it after the dry period. Instead I'm tapering down slowly to less and less as a routine that might prove more stable than the yoyo.
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FasterTwitch wrote:
Gratz on your sobriety. I quit drinking Jan 5th, 2020. Next week is my 1 year mark. I couldn't do it on my own. Had to swallow my pride and ask for help because I knew I was trying to drink myself to death.
Went to 5 week in-patient rehab in February and went I got out, the world was burning and everyone was struggling, but this year has been a massively huge improvement for my mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual health. I've had to relearn what a non-intoxicating dopamine hit feels like and learn be happy with that.....rather than needing some artificial booster to grease the wheels of conversation and fun.

For me, life is much more manageable now. A lot less crazy. Less wild stories and near misses. But, much more stable and less fear, anxiety, regrets and depression.

Also, I lost around 40lbs, so I managed to get to down to a respectable race weight and actually look pretty good lycra, which is a bonus.

Good for you, dude. February will be four years sober for me. The last 10 months have been super difficult, but having a big picture view helped me remember that any temporary struggle is just that and ultimately worth the effort.
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RandMart wrote:
RandMart wrote:
RandMart wrote:
I drank a LOT more than I expected to between Nov 3-7

Back to normal, now


My youngest brother called me on Christmas Eve [he called everyone, actually, one at a time]

He sent himself to rehab for alcoholism

He came from his stay Saturday morning

He said "Dude, I was in there with some hard-core drug addicts ... there were a couple times I had to say 'Sorry, I was just drinking too much Bud Light'"

I got an image in my mind of the part of "Alice's Restaurant" ...

Quote:
"What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Litterin'"

And they all moved away from me on the bench there
And the hairy eyeball, and all kinds of mean nasty things
'Til I said, "And creatin' a nuisance"

And they all came back, shook my hand
And we had a great time on the bench

YMMV

Have a cousin who is a pharmacist that had the same experience around 6 years ago. He also mentioned people in there that were legitimately yellow with jaundice and huge with edema/ascites - truly scary stuff that gave him, and me, a wake up call. I think I’ve done sober January, another sober month later in the year, and no drinks during the week since then solely because it terrified the shit out of me. Probably still drink to much on Friday and Saturdays, but I’m trying.
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