I’d go with the guy in 40-44 men at Miamiman that insisted on starting 7 feet ahead of everyone else lined up on the beach despite being told to move back like seven times. He then proceeded to swim with fists around the first bouy hitting everyone near him.

There are so many d-bags in tri now, how do you even start to whittle the field down?

I take issue with the word now. D-bags dominated the ranks of those that call themselves triathletes for decades.

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This ^^

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Not just D-bags. There are so many thieves as well. They steal from transition after the race. I've seen so many cases for the past couple of years.

Tape snatcher is quite a nice title for him. Surely he will be outed shortly. As for the McGregor guy, I say no to Pewag guys in general now - anything out of Austria, and I get the dude is not from Austria, but the team is Austrian.

What is a Pewag?

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

A chain brand out of Austria that sponsors a tri team

Daniel looked like such a tool at the finish line

To qualify the tape snatcher, and this doesn't absolve them, and I jumped on him too when I saw this and thought it should be a DQ personally at first, but at least one person responded to me and said the incident was not a tape snatching as it appears, and that they were doing the reenactment of the tape finish (for photography) and then they snatched it. They really need to come up with a better way to do the reenactments too. But yes, there are plenty of triathletes that are too, me, me, me.

I have no idea what happened at the finish and whether this guying potentially correcting me is correct regarding this being a reenactment, just taking a quick look at the finish time it looks like that was the case here. I would be curious if it changes anything in the opinion of anyone - I know it does of mine, def not DQ. It was reminder to me that sometimes a lot more context is needed to fairly assess a situation and I thought I was a lot more down the middle in the first place compared to some of the other comments on the Facebook feeds. I did go back and look and there was a tight race in the M40-44. Could be them. And who can argue about finishing passionately for a PR or 70.3 worlds spot, or even just a finish. And given the 1 minute difference in display time versus finish time, I would say that it is extremely plausible that that is a reenactment, in which case what obligation should Kelsey have to at least note this in fairness to the guy in mob-mentality world.

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Hmm...

I feel like that if that were me, and that it was really a re-enactment, and that I knew it was a re-enactment, I would have done the same thing

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First of all if you can see my reaction I was laughing .
And 2, the reason why it was a reenactment was because they didn’t have the banner out when I first crossed the finish line. So they asked me to go out there again so They could get photos of me grabbing the banner and then he sprinted and snatched it while i was about to grab it. I wasn’t ripping on the guy , i just thought it was funny.

And he didn’t know it was a re-enactment. So still kind of a dick move. I didn’t post anymore about it because i was busy training.

Yes, it was a reenactment; here's the "actual finish" (sucessful reinactment): https://twitter.com/KelseyWithrow/status/1201573860077981696


Personally, "tape snatcher" guy had the right of way. He was legit finishing the course; don't mess up his finish for a photo op (even if you are the winner). Wait for the lane to be clear before doing the staged finish.

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If you’re nominating Conor McGregor, Where’s jan frodeno’s finish line nomination?

Logistics aside, congratz on the W!

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What about Nate Diaz?

^^^this ^^^

I'll assume I am responding to Kelsey. Hey, I get it and I really think what matters more than anything is what happened after he crossed the finish line and when the crowd booed. At the point, I would hope he realized the banner wasn't for him and apologized. Sounds like from what I read, that he hadn't and that speaks of his character more. Beth was right, it was originally possible that he just thought everyone gets a banner like many Ironman races, but his action after he crosses the line means more to me.

And I know it is a good sequence of photos and humorous, but after a Colombian messaged and I gave it so more thought, I can understand their point of view a lot more even though I do believe an apology was in order at the very least. With that being said, and as a fellow long-time pro, we are never going to make everyone happy and will always upset people and I have done that plenty and will do so in the future too. I made a post a few year back that was similar on social and I just recently removed it because I understood how it could be taken the wrong way even though I meant it as simply amusing.

Anyway. I have often thought about making a post about you in general - praising your development. It has been truly awesome to continue to watch the fight in you and staying at it in sport. The ST crowd would be impressed with your attention to detail! And no worries, everyone will have forgotten about this by Friday.

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Thank you! I was not trying to start anything at all. But he did not apologize or even look at me at the finish. It’s ok though!

I vote tape snatcher. Even if it was a re-enactment, if it were me trying to ensure I get the seconds in due to a rolling start (assumption made), I would have ducked under the tape and fallen to ground then apologized to whomever was supposed to take it. The conor is definitely deserving of a nomination but he actually won the race.

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Before I opened the thread, I thought 'tape snatcher'....but having seen the second dude, I love them both.

Conor McGregor is just plain funny

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Thomas,

Did you go and look at the Finisherpix photos on their website?

Heres the link if you didn't
http://www.finisherpix.com/...hotos/en/usd/3283/20

It's clearly staged. They close the line together, at 4:30:17 then come back and stage a photo at 4:31:05. It's pretty funny

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Isnt that guy violating the rules with his exposed mid-section and half zipped top. Thought i remember seeing a whole thread about that a few months back.

Different guy, although looks like the same team - look at the socks.

From 2014, but this dude takes d-baggery to a whole other level

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Which guy? The guy who takes the spoon away from the guy ahead of him in line, or the guy who uses his hands? I'd say it's a tie.

Or the organizers who broke the first rule of buffet lines: have lines on both sides of the table?

Forgot about this one... Pure gold.

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You couldn't have made a funnier over the top celebration video if you tried. It's amazing.

Race-brain is real - many people are not thinking clearly (if at all) at the end of a hard race! He may have had no thoughts at all about the banner or that it was not for him. He also probably had no idea that you were the champion waiting to take another photo (congrats!)

But also, he really should be given the right of way here and the finish line should have been cleared out for him. What was he supposed to do, delay finishing until the staged photo op was over? I don't think we need to give this guy too hard of a time. The real fuck-up was not having the banner up for your actual finish, but this guy is getting all the criticism instead.

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1. Forget the finish line banner, pass blame to winner.
2. Make winner stage finish line photo
3. Athlete accidentally interrupts staged photo op, winner passes blame to athlete on Twitter
4. Winner totally "forgets" to include small detail that fake finish photo was staged, Twitter erupts.
5. "Winner", now only in quotations, comes on ST to "clear the air".
6. Profit

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

For me it has to be Wurf, and I hope he would take it as the high compliment which I intend it to be.

But if it is just from these two, the tape snatcher. I have no issue at all with the Conor scene. I would rather see that than some guy keel over dead from exhaustion.

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There's a post on this IMAZ Face Book page where a woman wasn't going to make the bike cut-off, and came upon a guy whose bike was broken beyond repair. This woman graciously offered her bike to this guy (who she didn't know) and he took it to finish the race. When she went to retrieve her bike after the race, it was broken and all messed up. No note, no thanks, no nothing. At last read, she had the guys bib number, but no resolution yet. I think he at least gets an honorable mention, unless there's more to the story (so far only one side has been told).

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Now, I just feel stupid. When did people put two and two together with the finisherpix. Now I really want to know what happened. This is worse than Peloton trying to goose their service making a controversial ad...

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The guy that finishes with her at 4:30 is not the same guy at 4:31 even though their kits are similar. Look at the shoes and the hat.

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When I saw the thread title Wurf was my first reaction as well.

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As I remember it, the guy ahead, had cut into the line.

I don't remember why though.

Since she didn't finish, she might as well turn him in for a DQ which is the penalty for both athletes in this case. That might be some consolation.

Ironman 2019 Competition Rules 2.02 (c): "Athletes may not provide any item of equipment to an athlete competing in the same Race if it results in the donor athlete being unable to continue with his/her own Race. Such equipment includes but is not restricted to: shoes, complete bicycle, frame, wheels, and helmet. The penalty for this will be disqualification of both athletes; and ..."

Nice catch. I just did a quick glance over on the kit. Clearly I need another cup of coffee.

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So, the dude totaled 2 bikes in the same race?

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Oh my! What a good catch indeed. That's crazy.....

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isn't there video somewhere of Brownlee's little elbow nudge with Frodo after Kona?
Not DBag OTY worthy, but belongs in the discussion.

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I thought the conclusion to that was that Ali was actually in a bad state and nothing was intentional......

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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

I wonder what she meant by "when the bike was racked, it was no longer in working order"? It's obviously super nice of her to offer her bike, but I kinda have a feeling that she may think that a flat tire would require a trip to a mechanic.

Update: the author of the thread responded with the following: "The shifter cable had snapped". Could have have happened in T2 without the guy ever knowing about it.

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I think they come from cyclists! And it has objective reasons: increased stress results in increased defensiveness.

Runners are the most relaxed, because what could happen when you run together? You bump into other people and continue running.
Swimmers are mostly relaxed as well. Not many factors for danger. Subconsciously it's a bit more stressful, because you're semi-naked in an unknown substance very close to other semi-naked people.
Cyclists are in the worst situation. They have a very dangerous and expensive thing dangling between their legs. It surfaces less than ideal qualities in men (and woman sometimes)

Honestly, this is really lame and I now nominate the female pro as the D-Bag of the year. She interfered with another racer after completing the course and then had the nerve to get pissy at him? Are you kidding? Maybe he didn't apologize because she wasn't supposed to be there in the first place.

I would've gone for a blazeman roll under the tape.

Hell, I had my HR strap taken off my bike before I got into transition that morning.

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this is the correct take...

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

How do you gather she interfered? She was asked to reenact the finish. As she was coming in behind him, its up to the officials to know when to hold up the banner. They hold it up early, he grabs, she laughs, reset. His race was not affected at all. I also dont see him as a DB though. Misunderstanding but no malice from either party. The onus is on IM to get it right the first time or know when to stage the reenactment. They are the ones to blame for the whole situation.

You’re misinterpreting.

I seconded the nomination, not for what she did at the race, but for what she did on Twitter and Slowtwitch after.

Also, it’s a joke. There’s no *actual* award being handed out here. I’m sure both of them are both cool and attractive and above average.

Le sigh...

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

If there was an actual award, I'm sure the "Conor McGregor" dude would love to receive it and break it over his knee!

Who is the lad who keeps posting on here for training advice, rejecting all of the input, looking for shortcuts like "does a sauna improve my FTP" and generally being rude to anybody that tries to help him? Bigmaclad or something.

Him.

What she did on Twitter and Slowtwitch was (paraphrasing), "This was kind of funny, but not a big deal."

I don't see an issue with her at all.

I don’t see an issue either

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

IM now has another option when registering for a race. They call it the VVIP ticket

For $200 extra they have the volunteers hold up a Finish Banner when you cross the finish line

Anybody watch the Hooli Cares Triathlon? This guy Gavin Belson is cutting the course with his entourage.

Top notch sleuthing... I win D-bag of the year!

You should have seen the part where I used Jay, my doppelganger bib mule, to run the last 5mi of the 10k run. I still got it!

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You are slamming this guy because he got in the way of your promo photo and now on the Ironwoman Facebook page he is being slaughtered as some kind of asshole because you got in the way of his finishing moment.

I get it you won a 70.3 but is your 15 minutes of fame worth this poor bastard copping shit from the feminist triathletes because they have totally misrepresented what actually happened.You finished,you then went back and stood in the middle of the finishers lane and obstructed another finisher for a promo photo.

Now the president of Triathlon Australia Michelle Cooper has waged in to call this guy out as some kind of asshole and that is just plain unfair. That is just fucked up! Shame on you!

https://www.facebook.com/...t=feed_comment_reply

You clearly were trying to stir the pot for that dude. "kind of a dick move" "he did not apologize", etc. You deliberately only told part of the story when you posted. Superfit = Superlame. The entire incident is not a big deal, but don't play it off like you are all cool about it while some finisher you were interfering with gets nuked online.

This

Why is this taking so long? Of course it's this. This thread should have been over immediately after "staged photo".

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

For the record: I do not care for Conor McGregor and his antics, nor anyone who does, nor anyone who imitates him

So there

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OP needs to revise original post and declare Kelsey Withrow the D-bag of the year winner. #triathlon #winning #D-bag

 
Picture of Gavin Nelson with his doppelganger jay the bib mule. What a D-Bag! ;)

When I posted this On my Facebook The intention was not to nuke this guy. It was funny because of my reaction. i covered his number and his face. I feel really bad that he is getting blasted. when I finished there was no finishers tape so I was told to go back and run through the finish. I made sure no one was around and started running, he came around the corner and sprinted. I laughed about it even at the race. I’m not a mean person and never intended for this to blow up like it has.

You need to fix this.

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“You are experiencing the criminal coverup of a foreign backed fascist hostile takeover of a mafia shakedown of an authoritarian religious slow motion coup. Persuade people to vote for Democracy.”

A few times a year I listen to "This is Water" (it's a speech that David Foster Wallace gave at a commencement). I will listen when I am in my car driving headed to my office or the airport. I highly recommend it. I need it as a reminder from time to time that the world does not revolve around ME. You can find the audio online on a podcast search or YT.

If you need a reminder of this, maybe you should win D-bag of the year.....

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on the other hand, the person who acknowledges the need for a reminder may be the one least likely to be a d-bag.

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The evolution of this thread is another reason why ST is the source for all things tri. No fake news here!

how about if we crown gavin belson d-bag of the year and put this to bed?

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Dan, I have nothing against you and I LOVE this site and I acknowledge that making the above statement may make you fell all warm & fuzzy inside, but no. Just no. Only a true D-bag would ever, for even a millisecond, think that the world revolves around him/her.

ETA: no reminder should ever be needed.

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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

You clearly didn’t listen to the speech. It’s good and you should feel bad for your comments here.

I believe you when you say you’re not a mean person and you didn’t intend for this the blow up like it has. I also agree with Eric who says it would be good for you to set the record straight.

Let’s take a moment to pause and reflect upon how we all make mistakes (big and small). The speedy, pervasive internet has allowed for the impact of small mistakes to be amplified beyond all reason. Let’s reign it in.

You’re a good, thoughtful person, and I think you can accomplish something good for the poor fellow getting blasted. Let me know if you receive any grief for doing it. We’ll have your back.

+1000
If everyone thought this way the world would be a much better place.

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[quote Calamityjane88


I believe you when you say you’re not a mean person and you didn’t intend for this the blow up like it has. I also agree with Eric who says it would be good for you to set the record straight.

Let’s take a moment to pause and reflect upon how we all make mistakes (big and small). The speedy, pervasive internet has allowed for the impact of small mistakes to be amplified beyond all reason. Let’s reign it in.

You’re a good, thoughtful person, and I think you can accomplish something good for the poor fellow getting blasted. Let me know if you receive any grief for doing it. We’ll have your back.[/quote].
"The Internet" needs more people like you Calamity.Well said.

A D-bag by definition is a person deserving contempt, someone who is despicable. A thread created to debate who is the most deserving person of this award is an exercise in pointing at other people doing wrong (perhaps) to make ourselves feel better? Probably other reasons, too, and those reasons likely similar and will be negative and counterproductive.

If this were all done tongue-in-cheek, it could be a harmless thread of humor. But in a highly compressed A-type analytical environment, such as this site!, it's only going to devolve into something resembling Dante's deepest inferno rings.

I'd like to agree that Galvin Belsing is the most despicable triathlete this year!! A fictional character that's so narcissistically self-obsessed with winning at all cost that it's comical. It's easy and guiltless to point and laugh at him because he's not real. But pointing and laughing and casting judgement toward others in real life is not. We're all human beings and have done things that are dumb, stupid and worthy of the D-bag title at some point in our life. It doesn't define who we/they/ I am. And in the rare and few cases it does define a person, like a serial cheater we read about on Marathon Investigation, those are emotionally and mentally sick humans, and that's genuinely sad.

Shining a spotlight on other people's moments of lapse in judgement and researching/ dissecting it into small pieces... why? What's my motivation for doing that?

Jane is wise

And ST needs a "Like" button

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MAGA !!!

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This isn’t about ME. Didn’t you read the previous posts about whether or not it’s about ME? C’mon now. ; )

This is about our sport and ST community! Kudos to EricMpro and superfit08 for having reasonable discussions here. It’s human nature to flare up and attack or become super defensive or hide from trouble. They didn’t do that. They have handled themselves really well.

So, anyhoo. I think we should be prepared to rally behind superfit08 if the fb townspeople start chasing her with their pitchforks.

I wouldn't go as far as "deserving contempt or someone who is despicable". It was tongue in cheek on my part but I've been in this sport for enough years to see that there's some d-baggery at the core of all of us. Self-obsession and narcissism is pretty much required to be at least mildly successful in this hobby. Many of us look at the picture of the Tape Snatcher and think... yep, I know a guy like that.

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G. Belson wrote:

I wouldn't go as far as "deserving contempt or someone who is despicable".

Gotcha. I genuinely didn't think that's what you meant; however, the actual Merriam Webster definition of dirt bag is: a dirty, unkempt, or contemptible person. And the definition of a "contemptible person" is "someone deserving of contempt; despicable". As is typical, plain text on a page lacks body language, inflection, emotional tone, and the human expression to convey what you really mean :-). And as a result, depending on one's perspective, mood, etc... it will be interpreted anywhere along the spectrum of comedic satire on one end and character assassination/ burn them at the proverbial stake!! pitchforks and torches mob mentality on the other end.


Hopefully this thread veers back toward the comedic end. Because both the tape snatcher and Pewag MMA celebration are both freaking hilarious! But I'm still voting Gavin as the winner cause I like Silicon Valley, and the fact that Triathlon got some mainstream exposure. I also think they did a good job shooting those scenes.

D-bag doesn't stand for dirt bag.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/...e.php?term=douchebag

LMFAO!!! Still comedic... just darker comedy now!

Not sure where this all is covered

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^this

Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

Sportswriters in the same circle as People Who Make up Charity Scams? Gotta disagree. Also not sure about Joe Buck.

Maybe add "D-Bag Triathletes and People who are Overly Critical and Overly Righteous and said D-Bag Triathletes" to the Second Circle. I dunno know...

That was inspired by a local sports-reporter who made up a charity scam

Feel free to re-allocate


He's the Ryan Seacrest of sports, that is all - talentless yet ubiquitous

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