FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!)

Oct 24, 19 0:45

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Hi Forums!

Scoured around the forums to find a more updated post on the new FLO wheels but wasn't in luck.

May I please ask what you all think about getting a 60/90 set versus a 60/Disc set? People have told me the difference between a 90 and a Disc is far too minimal to even notice and that some have regretted going for the 90 and should've bought a Disc instead. There are also some pre-conceived notions on Discs that they are "hard to work with" or "harder to pedal".

I race mostly on Oly and 70.3 and I plan to upgrade my wheels together with a new Trek P1 Speed Concept coming in a few weeks. What would work best for my case and why?

Sub Question: I heard the arm cups and pads on the Speed Concept were not so good. Could you guys recommend a nice set of Arm Cups/Pads for me to replace? 51 Speedshop? TriRig? Aerocoach Ltd?

Read on different posts that 51 Speedshops's pads tend to be slippery. But these were 2-3 year old posts and I was wondering if these have been updated for 2019-2020 so they could be different or updated now.

Recommendations and Opinions welcome! Let's have a good discussion! :)

Thanks!

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 1:28

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Also looking for armpads

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Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 2:08

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Easy: 60/disc. It is much faster. And way cooler looking. If you search this forum on "always disc," you will get lots of hits.

My first set of wheels was FLO 60/90. I regretted two choices almost immediately. After a year, I upgraded to 90mm/disc, and I love this new setup more in every way.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 2:13

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exxxviii wrote:

Easy: 60/disc. It is much faster. And way cooler looking. If you search this forum on "always disc," you will get lots of hits.

My first set of wheels was FLO 60/90. I regretted two choices almost immediately. After a year, I upgraded to 90mm/disc, and I love this new setup more in every way.

Awesome! Thank you for that. I just really need more to back up my decision and to make sure I'm not doing something wrong with my money.

Will definitely search and check it out!

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 2:46

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exxxviii wrote:

Easy: 60/disc. It is much faster. And way cooler looking. If you search this forum on "always disc," you will get lots of hits.

My first set of wheels was FLO 60/90. I regretted two choices almost immediately. After a year, I upgraded to 90mm/disc, and I love this new setup more in every way.

I also agree 60/disc is a great setup.
And I wouldn't discount zipps arm pads. Super comfortable.

What color scheme did you get?

What are some of the other build details.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 4:05

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exxxviii wrote:

Easy: 60/disc. It is much faster. And way cooler looking. If you search this forum on "always disc," you will get lots of hits.

My first set of wheels was FLO 60/90. I regretted two choices almost immediately. After a year, I upgraded to 90mm/disc, and I love this new setup more in every way.

A disc is only only 30 to 60 seconds faster than a 90 over the Ironman distance per Flo’s data. So 15 to 30 seconds over the 70.3 distance.

Faster, yes. MUCH faster, not really.

Favorite Gear: Dimond | Cadex | Desoto Sport | Hoka One One

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 4:32

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Does it have to be Flo?
They are good wheels but why are you excluding other companies when paying for a P1 SC?

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 4:51

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Fishbum wrote:

exxxviii wrote:

Easy: 60/disc. It is much faster. And way cooler looking. If you search this forum on "always disc," you will get lots of hits.

My first set of wheels was FLO 60/90. I regretted two choices almost immediately. After a year, I upgraded to 90mm/disc, and I love this new setup more in every way.

I also agree 60/disc is a great setup.
And I wouldn't discount zipps arm pads. Super comfortable.

What color scheme did you get?

What are some of the other build details.

Full Ultegra DI2 setup on the group set. Got it with the Bontrager Aeolus Comp 5 Wheelset. Color scheme is a sick looking Rage Red / Deep Dark Blue Full Fade with a Trek White logo.

The Bontrager wheels will be my shallow depth set and should I need a set of wheels for shorter distances or for training, they're my bet!

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 5:29

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The GMAN wrote:

A disc is only only 30 to 60 seconds faster than a 90 over the Ironman distance per Flo’s data.

That whole "watts to spin" debate accompanies this that suggests that the FLO data are modeled without rotational drag consideration. I don't follow it closely. But I do know that my bike got 30W faster when I did a few changes, including wheels from 60/90 to 9/disc. (No clue what the wheels themselves contributed, but I trust that they did not make me slower.)

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 5:38

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Same here. Having gone round and round on this several times, I honestly see very little use for a 60/90 set up. The 90 is not as fast or as stable as a disc but not as shallow or light for more daily road riding. 60/60/disc is about perfect to cover all situations.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 6:13

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meanred wrote:

I just really need more to back up my decision and to make sure I'm not doing something wrong with my money.

Here is an excellent post from an industry leader: https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=5938531#p5938531

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

culpritbicycles

Oct 24, 19 6:18

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if you aren't in a rush. am trying to get 40 ppl to commit to my arm pad design. will make in carbon.

delivery around February to March

120 retail, 99 usd for pre order. 50% deposit with order

bolt pattern will fit most brands.

pm me if interested

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 6:44

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I have a 2018 SC with 60/60 but an aero jacket disc cover on race day. Works really well for me. Derailleur rubs in lowest gear a bit but pretty rarely in that situation.

I didn't like the arm pads on my gen1 SC and replaced them with Cee Gees and they were great. Warning - they are really think so you'll likely want to adjust your pads down a bit to compensate. On my gen2 I have been fine with the Bontrager pads. Only negative I've had is they lasted less than a year and the fabric covering was coming off. That's more likely that my bike shop or I didn't pay attention when taking the pads off and ripped the fabric seem. When I replaced them I got more Bontrager pads which are stiffer than the originals but still work for me.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [AlenB] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 6:56

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AlenB wrote:

Does it have to be Flo?
They are good wheels but why are you excluding other companies when paying for a P1 SC?

Well, I chose the FLOs because of cost. Other deep section wheels and discs more especially cost a fortune (if you can help me out with another company that manufactures a disc for the price of the FLO <with a 20% discount> then I may consider...).

It's not that I didn't consider them, I'd love a Zipp or a HED, or an Enve disc but the price isn't just too nice at the moment. :)

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 6:58

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I’m using the 51 speed shop pads on my Speed Concept. I like cup shape and it has a lot of holes for adjustability. Used them all season this year and had no issues with the lads being slippery. The only thing I don’t like is they didn’t work with the Aerocoach angled wedge spacers that I had been using

Matt

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 6:58

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I have the aeolus xxx 6s with a disc cover for the rear. Used to run Flo 90s with a disc cover too. I opted for the disc cover because this way I had "2" rear wheels and can take the cover off it the weather calls for it or the race doesn't allow it. Granted there are only a handful of races that don't allow discs and I have yet to race in conditions that would warrant removing the disc cover, I like to know I have the option. Also, I can use the wheels on my road bike too.

As for arm cups, I have used the zipp vulas and the 51 speedshop. I prefer the 51 speedshops, they just feel more secure to me.

Last edited by: iliketri: Oct 24, 19 7:00

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [iliketri] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 7:56

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I went 60/90 and a disc cover I have been happy with it the last 2 seasons. Gives me even more options for a lot less $

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 7:58

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If you are only getting one rear wheel, and don't want to deal with a cover, getting a disc makes sense. The main disadvantage is convenience in day to day use, e.g., need to use a pump adapter, possibly different valve stem length from your front wheel, and a little more of a pain to transport (I try not to put a disc on my hitch rack). You could also get the random race director who decides last minute to ban discs, though that has yet to happen to me.

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Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 8:03

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I have a Speed Concept as well, and put me down as another vote for 60 / disc. The only practical downside I see is that the disc is harder to inflate, but do yourself a favor and buy this Silca adaptor. It'll make your life a lot easier.

https://www.amazon.com/...le?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And good call on the Di2. I bought my SC with Ultegra mechanical, and it seemed fine until I upgraded to Di2. Being able to shift on the base bars is huge, and I can keep my hands in a more preferred position while in aero. Plus, I find myself shifting more often to stay in the optimal gear.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [dktxracer] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 9:04

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dktxracer wrote:

I have a Speed Concept as well, and put me down as another vote for 60 / disc. The only practical downside I see is that the disc is harder to inflate, but do yourself a favor and buy this Silca adaptor. It'll make your life a lot easier.

https://www.amazon.com/...le?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And good call on the Di2. I bought my SC with Ultegra mechanical, and it seemed fine until I upgraded to Di2. Being able to shift on the base bars is huge, and I can keep my hands in a more preferred position while in aero. Plus, I find myself shifting more often to stay in the optimal gear.

This adapter is awesome! Definitely ordering one or a pump that comes with something similar. Thank you for your input! :)

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [Chemist] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 9:06

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Chemist wrote:

I’m using the 51 speed shop pads on my Speed Concept. I like cup shape and it has a lot of holes for adjustability. Used them all season this year and had no issues with the lads being slippery. The only thing I don’t like is they didn’t work with the Aerocoach angled wedge spacers that I had been using

Great! Really thinking of replacing the Bontrager ones with 51 Speedshop Cups and Pads... I'll still be using the Mono-extensions for the meantime as the Speed Concept accessory to insert custom/third-party aerobars seem to be the rarest thing on Earth nowadays. Great input, thank you! :)

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 9:14

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exxxviii wrote:

meanred wrote:

I just really need more to back up my decision and to make sure I'm not doing something wrong with my money.

Here is an excellent post from an industry leader: https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=5938531#p5938531

Read this entire thread and the gains of having the disc really seem to outweigh those of a 90 rear wheel. Having said that, I think I can confirm the most optimal set-up for any rider would probably be 60/60/Disc to make it worthwhile.

He also makes a good point about wattage savings. Not that I'm a top age-grouper or anywhere near a pro triathlete that 1-5 watts on both drag and spins matter, but it's definitely nice to know I'm saving a bit of energy without sacrificing any speed. Great read and thank you for your input! :)

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 9:17

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DFW_Tri wrote:

Same here. Having gone round and round on this several times, I honestly see very little use for a 60/90 set up. The 90 is not as fast or as stable as a disc but not as shallow or light for more daily road riding. 60/60/disc is about perfect to cover all situations.

Thank you for this input! I now as well do agree that a 60/60/disc is the way to go together with a pair of training wheels for shorter, off-seasonish rides (heck, when do we have an off season anyway?). Really appreciate this input and thank you!

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 9:21

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I use Cee Gees pads on my stock Trek arm cups and really like them. They're thicker than a traditional pad, so it might affect your fit slightly, but they're very comfortable and help to absorb road vibration. Look them up - very popular.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 9:25

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meanred wrote:

DFW_Tri wrote:

I now as well do agree that a 60/60/disc is the way to go together with a pair of training wheels for shorter, off-seasonish rides (heck, when do we have an off season anyway?). Really appreciate this input and thank you!

Flo wheels are meant to be ridden in training and racing. If you want to intentionally slow your self down in training, by all means, by a training set. I can certainly understand using a slower set if you are too fast for the group in which you like to ride. It is one thing to wear slightly tighter clothing or small things like that to gain incremental speed on race day. But, I don’t understand those that simply like to “be pleasantly surprised” by the new speed such wheels may provide on race day. Practice with them so you are comfortable and ER used to the feel, speed etc you have at certain efforts. At least, that’s my advice. Others will disagree.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 9:53

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meanred wrote:

I now as well do agree that a 60/60/disc is the way to go together with a pair of training wheels for shorter, off-seasonish rides (heck, when do we have an off season anyway?).

I would ditch the concept of "training wheels" and just get wheels. Use them everyday. The FLO and HED wheels are freakin' bomb proof and worth using as daily riders. I only have a 9/disc for my bike, and that is what I train on. And, if you train on a disc, you will never need a shallower wheel, because you will be comfortable in all conditions.

It is unlikely that I would ever be in a race that I could not use my disc. I was one of the minority riders in the Nice 70.3 WC with a disc, and it was the perfect choice for me. If I ever qualify for Kona, I would rent a rear wheel. But I would otherwise use my disc every other time.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 10:00

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exxxviii wrote:

meanred wrote:

I now as well do agree that a 60/60/disc is the way to go together with a pair of training wheels for shorter, off-seasonish rides (heck, when do we have an off season anyway?).

I would ditch the concept of "training wheels" and just get wheels. Use them everyday. The FLO and HED wheels are freakin' bomb proof and worth using as daily riders. I only have a 9/disc for my bike, and that is what I train on. And, if you train on a disc, you will never need a shallower wheel, because you will be comfortable in all conditions.

It is unlikely that I would ever be in a race that I could not use my disc. I was one of the minority riders in the Nice 70.3 WC with a disc, and it was the perfect choice for me. If I ever qualify for Kona, I would rent a rear wheel. But I would otherwise use my disc every other time.

Definitely a choice for Olympic distances? I've been wanting to learn about this "myth" where using a disc on shorter races would not be necessary. But I think it's "free speed" we can't overlook.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 10:02

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Speed is speed. Speed does not care about distance. A disc will make you faster at every distance. And in Olympics and sprints, where seconds matter, you definitely want a disc. When I race Olympics and sprints, I am racing for AG & masters podium. Those slots are often separated by 10 seconds or fewer. Without a disc, I would have lost slots in a few races or fallen off the podium entirely.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 10:05

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exxxviii wrote:

Speed is speed. Speed does not care about distance. A disc will make you faster at every distance. And in Olympics and sprints, where seconds matter, you definitely want a disc. When I race Olympics and sprints, I am racing for AG & masters podium. Those slots are often separated by 10 seconds or fewer. Without a disc, I would have lost slots in a few races or fallen off the podium entirely.

Got it. Thanks for that, mate!

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 10:25

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exxxviii wrote:

meanred wrote:

I now as well do agree that a 60/60/disc is the way to go together with a pair of training wheels for shorter, off-seasonish rides (heck, when do we have an off season anyway?).

I would ditch the concept of "training wheels" and just get wheels. Use them everyday. The FLO and HED wheels are freakin' bomb proof and worth using as daily riders. I only have a 9/disc for my bike, and that is what I train on. And, if you train on a disc, you will never need a shallower wheel, because you will be comfortable in all conditions.

It is unlikely that I would ever be in a race that I could not use my disc. I was one of the minority riders in the Nice 70.3 WC with a disc, and it was the perfect choice for me. If I ever qualify for Kona, I would rent a rear wheel. But I would otherwise use my disc every other time.

100% agree with this.

If you can only afford one rear wheel, go disc and never look back. It adds stability, is faster, looks cool and makes you feel badass which helps with race-day psychology.

Personally, day-to-day I'd get annoyed having a disc as my only training wheel (needing a crack pipe all the time to inflate which can be a bit tricky single handed), so I'd also want a 9 rear. But if you do most of your riding on the trainer, this wouldn't be a problem. But if you ride outdoors year round, maybe you'd want to get a 9 eventually.

But bottom line is start with the disc. if you find it's getting to be a hassle, maybe see if you can find a 9 pre-owned for training, and if it's not a problem, then you'll have the faster setup.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 10:42

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meanred wrote:

Hi Forums!

Scoured around the forums to find a more updated post on the new FLO wheels but wasn't in luck.

May I please ask what you all think about getting a 60/90 set versus a 60/Disc set? People have told me the difference between a 90 and a Disc is far too minimal to even notice and that some have regretted going for the 90 and should've bought a Disc instead. There are also some pre-conceived notions on Discs that they are "hard to work with" or "harder to pedal".

I race mostly on Oly and 70.3 and I plan to upgrade my wheels together with a new Trek P1 Speed Concept coming in a few weeks. What would work best for my case and why?

Good question. It really depends on what you want from the wheels. Are you looking for the fastest option, then go with the disc. If you are looking for a more versatile set that you can use for training and racing (without any limitations like Kona), then the 60/90 might be better. Both options are fast, but I think it comes down to what you want from the wheels, and where you will get the most benefit, use, and enjoyment.

Does that make sense?

Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [wintershade] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 11:25

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wintershade wrote:

Personally, day-to-day I'd get annoyed having a disc as my only training wheel (needing a crack pipe all the time to inflate which can be a bit tricky single handed) . .

Ditch the crack pipe and get one of these, which locks onto the valve from the side. Not cheap but it saves so much aggravation.

https://www.amazon.com/...00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [dktxracer] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 11:48

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Thanks! I just ordered it. Brilliant.

Not cheap for a chuck, but certainly cheaper than an additional rear wheel.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [wintershade] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 12:17

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Big +1 to the HIRO. It will change your life. I went through 3 crack pipes before I got my HIRO.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 12:20

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exxxviii wrote:

Big +1 to the HIRO. It will change your life. I went through 3 crack pipes before I got my HIRO.

The cracks pipes, at least the Silca one, is "supposed" to hold onto the valve by itself. We call know that doesn't work.

Another benefit to the Hiro is that it seems to bleed very little air during removal.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [Canadian] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 19 18:54

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Canadian wrote:

meanred wrote:

Hi Forums!

Scoured around the forums to find a more updated post on the new FLO wheels but wasn't in luck.

May I please ask what you all think about getting a 60/90 set versus a 60/Disc set? People have told me the difference between a 90 and a Disc is far too minimal to even notice and that some have regretted going for the 90 and should've bought a Disc instead. There are also some pre-conceived notions on Discs that they are "hard to work with" or "harder to pedal".

I race mostly on Oly and 70.3 and I plan to upgrade my wheels together with a new Trek P1 Speed Concept coming in a few weeks. What would work best for my case and why?

Good question. It really depends on what you want from the wheels. Are you looking for the fastest option, then go with the disc. If you are looking for a more versatile set that you can use for training and racing (without any limitations like Kona), then the 60/90 might be better. Both options are fast, but I think it comes down to what you want from the wheels, and where you will get the most benefit, use, and enjoyment.

Does that make sense?

Thanks for stopping by, Chris! Definitely going for the disc as it is the setup I want. Will place my order in a few days right before my bike gets here. Can't wait to head out and use it!

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Oct 25, 19 7:59

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meanred wrote:

Canadian wrote:

meanred wrote:

Hi Forums!

Scoured around the forums to find a more updated post on the new FLO wheels but wasn't in luck.

May I please ask what you all think about getting a 60/90 set versus a 60/Disc set? People have told me the difference between a 90 and a Disc is far too minimal to even notice and that some have regretted going for the 90 and should've bought a Disc instead. There are also some pre-conceived notions on Discs that they are "hard to work with" or "harder to pedal".

I race mostly on Oly and 70.3 and I plan to upgrade my wheels together with a new Trek P1 Speed Concept coming in a few weeks. What would work best for my case and why?

Good question. It really depends on what you want from the wheels. Are you looking for the fastest option, then go with the disc. If you are looking for a more versatile set that you can use for training and racing (without any limitations like Kona), then the 60/90 might be better. Both options are fast, but I think it comes down to what you want from the wheels, and where you will get the most benefit, use, and enjoyment.

Does that make sense?

Thanks for stopping by, Chris! Definitely going for the disc as it is the setup I want. Will place my order in a few days right before my bike gets here. Can't wait to head out and use it!

Great! Let me know if you have any more questions.

Have a great day,

Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [Canadian] [ In reply to ]

Dec 2, 19 23:53

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UPDATE:

Pulled the trigger on a set of FLO 60/Discs! Read a ton of other forum posts and really happy and confident about my choice and my purchase.

Thank you for the help, everyone!

**Also got the Silca crack pipe!

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Dec 3, 19 1:03

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meanred wrote:

UPDATE:

Pulled the trigger on a set of FLO 60/Discs! Read a ton of other forum posts and really happy and confident about my choice and my purchase.

Thank you for the help, everyone!

**Also got the Silca crack pipe!

Bit late to the party. Congrats with you purchase.

On the crack pipe locking pumphead department I suggest to get the KCNC pump head. Basically the same as the Silca, but half the price :) More info here:

https://www.tririg.com/...9_Pump_Head_Shootout

$ 40,00 over here (this is de version I have. Works like a charm):

https://fairwheelbikes.com/kcnc-pump-head/

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Dec 3, 19 6:17

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The cups are fine but cups are a personal thing.....the pads suck.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [Cnasta] [ In reply to ]

Dec 3, 19 6:20

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Cnasta wrote:

meanred wrote:

UPDATE:

Pulled the trigger on a set of FLO 60/Discs! Read a ton of other forum posts and really happy and confident about my choice and my purchase.

Thank you for the help, everyone!

**Also got the Silca crack pipe!

Bit late to the party. Congrats with you purchase.

On the crack pipe locking pumphead department I suggest to get the KCNC pump head. Basically the same as the Silca, but half the price :) More info here:

https://www.tririg.com/...9_Pump_Head_Shootout

$ 40,00 over here (this is de version I have. Works like a charm):

https://fairwheelbikes.com/kcnc-pump-head/

I have flo disc. I just cut the bike pump chuck handle a bit shorter

No need for a crack pipe. Fits right in the opening in the disc

Makes it so much easier

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [Cnasta] [ In reply to ]

Dec 3, 19 11:09

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Cnasta wrote:

meanred wrote:

UPDATE:

Pulled the trigger on a set of FLO 60/Discs! Read a ton of other forum posts and really happy and confident about my choice and my purchase.

Thank you for the help, everyone!

**Also got the Silca crack pipe!

Bit late to the party. Congrats with you purchase.

On the crack pipe locking pumphead department I suggest to get the KCNC pump head. Basically the same as the Silca, but half the price :) More info here:

https://www.tririg.com/...9_Pump_Head_Shootout

$ 40,00 over here (this is de version I have. Works like a charm):

https://fairwheelbikes.com/kcnc-pump-head/

I run Flo 60/Disc Carbons on my SC as well... really like the setup. I also suggest the KCNC adapter, have mine on a Lezyne travel sized pump. Lastly I put CeeGees on my SC after my stock pads fell apart... much better.

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Dec 3, 19 15:04

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meanred wrote:

UPDATE:

Pulled the trigger on a set of FLO 60/Discs! Read a ton of other forum posts and really happy and confident about my choice and my purchase.

Thank you for the help, everyone!

**Also got the Silca crack pipe!

Glad to hear you are happy with the choice. Thank you for the support. Enjoy the new wheels!

Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [Canadian] [ In reply to ]

Dec 5, 19 0:44

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Since we're on the topic here, may I ask what you guys use to cover the disc wheel valve? Also, should I cover or not cover? What are the implications?

Re: FLO 60/90 vs FLO 60/Disc on a 2020 Trek Speed Concept (and Arm Cups/Pads!) [meanred] [ In reply to ]

Dec 5, 19 9:43

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meanred wrote:

Since we're on the topic here, may I ask what you guys use to cover the disc wheel valve? Also, should I cover or not cover? What are the implications?

We've actually tested that in the wind tunnel and written an article on that topic titled: FLO Cycling – Does Covering the Valve Cutout on a DISC Wheel Matter? I won't post to the article since I've been asked to not post links to our site from the forum.

Regardless, covering the valve cutout will save you about 2 seconds on a 40k and 8s during an IM. I'd say, start your race covered if those few seconds matter to you, but don't waste your time re-covering if you flat.

We use 2" wide electrical tape or clear packing tape.

I hope that helps,

Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling

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