bryan. can you do me a favor? because, this is pretty much a constant. there's a front page attached to this forum. get my drift?

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Sorry! I was browsing DC Rainmaker and saw it there first! I'll update my post

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thanks. you don't need to delete it. just if you could not omit our own coverage. and, it didn't "come out of nowhere this morning" for all of us ;-)

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yeah I'll be sure and check the main page next time. Wahoo is really making some big moves!

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Wow. As far as acquisitions go, unless Wahoo wants to get into power pedals, I'll be pretty curious to see if this actually changes anything. Also, it means I might forgive Speedplay for not responding to multiple emails, I guess they were busy :P

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I think this definitely leads to a Speedplay power meter.

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It didn't 'come out of nowhere' as it was copied verbatim from DCR.

When you say that "SRAM makes no pedal" is Powertap (pedals) not under the SRAM umbrella yet? Or are we talking about non-power meter, non-flat pedals?

Aside from not having the money to buy it, if they were somehow able to make a no compromises Speedplay zero aero power meter then there would finally be an acceptable way to run an aero crank like Vision's and still have power in a convenient spot. Would be an awesome setup.

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of course they make a pedal now. by virtue of that acquisition. but speedplay has been SRAM's great white whale for decades. just could never land it. and that's just my guess. maybe SRAM was never interested in speedplay but i'd be shocked x10 if that was the case. what you'd want if you're SRAM is a pedal that can flow up and down the price range like the rest of their components, and like shimano has.

if you'd have announced at the beginning of the year: SRAM and Wahoo are going to make acquisitions, and the acquired brands are Powertap and Speedplay, who'da thunk it would go this way?

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So, where's the why in this? My only sense is they think they can downsize enough components to fit into a standard speedplay (not the aero), to make a power meter?

Just seems like it doesn't fit their core business as a tech company. Maybe it does, but I'd like to see those quotes rather than the ones they provided. So, I've got the same questions you ended the article with: why?

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The real win would be putting the power meter in the cleat and leaving the pedals as is.

Maybe this is part of their milestone plan to get ahead of the game for e-cycling and gaming future. Zwift and other online races aren't going anywhere, and there's been the constant discussion on preventing e-doping and importantly, potentially having an industry standard for power measurement.

So once they release a speedplay standard power meter pedal, they can now be the major player in online cycling with an approved industry package/architecture. To race, you can buy Wahoo's own bike, or you can buy their smart trainer, or you can buy their power pedals but either option will qualify you to compete online.

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Not sure how that would be done w/o making the cleat bigger and thus negating some of the low profile, aero benefits.

I'd totally jump all over a Speedplay power meter and ditch my two crank-based ones, as long as it was as reliable as most other power meters and reasonably priced.

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I appreciate that behind the scenes take. Those aren't thing I would have thought about (or guessed at) earlier this year. They are interesting to think of the possibilities though. Thank you (and BryanD) for the continued coverage.

I just can't wait for Wahoo to bring Speedplay's website into the 21st century... That'll be the real win here.

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It looks like a play to become more of the entire cycling ecosystem. It might also be scooping up companies that are "cheap" for acquisition.

It seems like Wahoo is chipping away at Garmin - trying to overtake Garmin in cycling. Head unit, trainers, online-training program, pedals, indoor bike - they're building a nice kingdom.

Now watch SRAM gobble up Wahoo and add trainers, computers, and pedals to their line.

If they could build it in the adapter plate and not the mechanical part of the cleat that would be sweet.

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This is precisely what Brim Brothers were doing but they weren't able to overcome some accuracy problems in the end and the project died. They did ship some first run units but they weren't up to spec. It was a Speedplay cleat based power meter called Zone something or other. Maybe Wahoo will pick up where they left off, maybe they'll do their own thing, maybe they'll do nothing of the sort.

Seems like a good deal all around I suppose, how much did they pay? I want to know how rich old Richard is now, he certainly has been grabbing for that brass ring since the 70's. Dude has more inventions that just about any single person in cycling, that have stuck that is..

I think it will be a power clete of some kind, unless miniturazation has caught up with their little profile pedal..I will buy it, always thought this is the ultimate way to go for power, easily changed from bike to bike, freeing up the designs on all the other areas where it is now currently sitting..Congratulations Richard!!!

IQSquare - once they get their power pedal (based on Look pedal) - might be SRAM's target down the road.

I hope they can convince more shoe makers to make Speedplay compliant soles.
Thankfully Sidi is still doing this.

With the release of the walkable/aero cleats Speedplay is clearly the best pedal system on the market. When I see my riding companions fumbling to clip in on one sided pedals I just shake my head.

No interest in a power meter, but if they made one cheap enough inside Speedplay pedals I'd consider it.

And that will never happen.......

Jeroen

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Mostly agree. But I’d also like to see some kind of security feature so that some bandit with a pedal wrench can’t just run off with my power meter.

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Oh, we know they (Sram) tried, but knowing Richard as well as you do, he wasn't going to sell to anyone unless they shared, at least to some measure, his vision for the company. I'm guessing Wahoo said all the right things. Richard is/was pretty adamant about not having a power meter attached to his pedal system, so I'll be interested to see where this goes. Good for them!

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i've never been against a power meter in a pedal. i've been against pedals, power meter or no, that don't supply the functions necessary in a pedal, and for me that's every power pedal currently out there. i would be fine with a power meter in the pedal if: 1) just like with SRAM or Shimano cranks, i wasn't forced to buy a power meter when i bought the component; and 2) the pedal needs to function properly as a pedal. once a power meter speedplay, if it ever came to exist, stopped delivering the function speedplay delivers, then i can't buy that particular pedal.

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i've never been against a power meter in a pedal. i've been against pedals, power meter or no, that don't supply the functions necessary in a pedal, and for me that's every power pedal currently out there. i would be fine with a power meter in the pedal if: 1) just like with SRAM or Shimano cranks, i wasn't forced to buy a power meter when i bought the component; and 2) the pedal needs to function properly as a pedal. once a power meter speedplay, if it ever came to exist, stopped delivering the function speedplay delivers, then i can't buy that particular pedal.


Here, here - function optimally as a pedal first, please! Thank you!

Full disclosure though, at my age, Power Numbers are only going down, so there's really no need or interest on my part in measuring them. There's still ONLY one goal - stay on the last wheel in the group, no matter what! :-)

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If the pedal power meter works like my Kickr, you'll soon get 20 watts back for free.

I do like the Kickr, but the power meter bits in there are the ones I have no real use for (reading power from the cranks).

I'm all for a power meter pedal, but only if spindles remain interchangeable as they are now. Altering Q-factor via increasing/decreasing spindle length is one of Speedplay's special sauces and a reason why their pedals are favored by so many fitters.

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Why? SRAM has already acquired Powertap so they have a Look-based power pedal in their portfolio.

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The real win would be taking the cleat and Wahoo know-how finally making a multi sport watch out of it!

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Well the old solution was a Powertap hub in a HED or Zipp disc. I don't know if those are still available new, but now the AsroCoach disc can be fitted with a PT.

Sorry, slightly offtopic, but your post is not fair.

"clearly the best pedal system"? ...
I have been using Time iclic/xpresso for 10 years and Speedplay for 2 years.

Once I am clipped in, I cannot feel any difference in pedaling efficiency.
and IMO:
- it is easier to clip in with the Time pedal bc it always has the same position without any load. Pedal is bigger and easier to "grab".
- If you have to walk or run.Time cleats are wider, and therefore more stable. With a Speedplay cleat, it is like walking on "half a sphere", there is no stability. If you want a sprained ankle, Speedplay is the winner.
- Time cleats offer more grip on dirty terrain (for those who don't do flying mounts). Good luck if your Speedplay cleats are full of mud... race is over or seriously impacted ;-)

Oh... and price! 26 euros for my xpresso (cleats included), 135 euros for my speedplay (not even talking of the fancy aero options).

"Wahoo buys Speedplay Pedals" ......how many pairs?