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Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile?

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If I quit triathlon in the next 30 days, I’d totally go back to running middle distance.

But no, not running

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What's your 1 mile PR?//

I know we have some low 3;50's guys on here, not sure if anyone faster than that. Does anyone know if Alan Webb ever posted in his short switch to pro triathlon? Suppose that would count as our fastest if he did.
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I think I could eek out a 6:45. I'm not very fast.
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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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I may since it's around the corner from me.. think I could knock out a 4:50. Might be able to see my AG winners off in the distance if I squint.

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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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Probably will go race... Just as a lark. Guessing it will be in 5:30s... Pr in high school 4:48
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I'm going to be somewhere in that range ... I did 5:19 last year. PR is 5:18 from high school.

I'm hoping to break 5 in the NYC mile and then break 5 at Augusta 70.3 in September to have 4:XX times the whole month.

I feel more confident about Augusta than breaking 5 in the mile right now. Even if I bonk the 1 mile, its still a fun race. Very well organized.

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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around 5:40... back in high school.. no way I could sniff that with current condition of my knee.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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The last time I tried it was around 5:40ish (can't remember the exact time)
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4:25 in another lifetime. Won't even try now.

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About 20 seconds faster than Fishbum's

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brider wrote:
4:25 in another lifetime. Won't even try now.

Similar:

High School - 4:27
Age 31 - 4:03 1500m on the track (about 4:23)
Santa Barbara State Street Mile (downhill) - 4:09 Yeah, that's my PR!!


FYI - that was about 3 decades ago!
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4:17 in college - 1973

4:32 corporate track - 1986

5:35 age group mile at 60 years old - 2014

was hoping to do the 5th avenue mile as a 65th birthday present to myself, goal was 5:50

Torn quadriceps tendon 10 weeks ago has killed that dream..... Maybe 6:10 in 2 years????
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HuffNPuff wrote:
brider wrote:
4:25 in another lifetime. Won't even try now.


Similar:

High School - 4:27
Age 31 - 4:03 1500m on the track (about 4:23)
Santa Barbara State Street Mile (downhill) - 4:09 Yeah, that's my PR!!


FYI - that was about 3 decades ago!

Yep.

10 years ago at 48 I did 5:48 on a point to point road race similar to the 5th ave mile.

In high school on a cinder 440 yd track I ran 4:35.

Today I would be happy with anything in the low 6's.

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Ran a 4:20 before baskeball practice in high school once which was ~20 years ago.... our coach picked up some conditioning stuff he called the 'Virginia program' and we'd run a timed mile before practice even started. I didn't mind it so much and could go sub 5 pretty easy but the team in general didn't enjoy it. Didn't run track and played team sports.

I ran a 5:10 two years ago, would be fun but briefly painful to see if I could maybe go sub 5.

Sub 4 is crazy fast btw!
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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4:44, but that was 30+ years and 20 lbs less ago...

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My last 5th avenue mile in 2017 remains my PR of 5:23, even now with better running fitness I did a track mile and hit 5:23. I imagine the 5th ave mile is faster because of both being in a straight line and having the slight downhill on the back half.

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HS PR 4:32 1988

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My last mile race I crushed it in about 10 minutes...but it was also a beer mile.

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Ran 4:20 my senior year of high school off of cross country training before I re-injured my foot. I really think I could have been a decent miler if I commited to 1500/3k rather than long distance stuff. Body just couldn't handle the miles needed to compete.

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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
What's your 1 mile PR?//

I know we have some low 3;50's guys on here, not sure if anyone faster than that. Does anyone know if Alan Webb ever posted in his short switch to pro triathlon? Suppose that would count as our fastest if he did.

Low 3:50s? Some? Who? I'd wager that if you took all 92,483 registered users and counted the number of sub-4 milers amongst them that the total would be somewhere between 0 and 1.
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4:48 back in March of this year. This was during lots of base pace training with the only intensity being a track session on Tuesday nights. PR was during one of said track sessions. Maybe a 4:30 now? Will have to wait and check the speed later in October with 70.3 Santa Cruz coming up

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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [kny] [ In reply to ]
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Well I know one guy that has run something like 40 or more sub 4 minute miles, I think a 3;51 PR. He could probably could tell better who the old elite guys here were, don't forge that Aussie guy that went pretty fast, Mothram? I think you would be surprised at the folks we have on here...(-;
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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5:09, back in the early '90s. A few decades and some injuries and health issues later, I'm lucky to get close to twice that now...

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [Warbird] [ In reply to ]
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I ran a 3:50 a few years ago on a local track...and the realized a mile was 4 laps, not 3! LOL
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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [kny] [ In reply to ]
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One low 3:50-guy has posted on this thread ;)

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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4:07 in high school, back in 1979

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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I can't even take a proper shit in less than 4 minutes

I ran to the store once - in like 15 minutes - because I was out of beer and too drunk to drive. It was probably around 400 meters. let me tell you - I WAS EXHAUSTED! Fortunately also very thirsty. Took a cool down lap on the way back.
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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
What's your 1 mile PR?//

I know we have some low 3;50's guys on here, not sure if anyone faster than that. Does anyone know if Alan Webb ever posted in his short switch to pro triathlon? Suppose that would count as our fastest if he did.

I ran a 3:51 1500- So about a 4:07ish mile. 4:11 indoor on a 300m track. I'd love to go back. The Mile is the purest of all the races.

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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5:30PR. I think I could do a 6:15 now but I’m a better overall runner now so i’ll Take it
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I ran a 3:51 1500- So about a 4:07ish mile. 4:11 indoor on a 300m track. I'd love to go back. The Mile is the purest of all the races. //

There is a guy here from Canada who has done a 3;50.? I think. Forget his handle, but he moved to triathlon some time ago. Sure he is looking at this thread if still around, and could chime in with his stats. Think he ran the most sub 4's in Canada too..


And who was the kid who got injured and was supposed to be our next big ITU guy? He ran sub 4 in high school, not sure if he went any faster at Oregon(maybe just did cross country for his one season). I think Alan Webb posted here, of course he would get top honors, although Craig Mothram was pretty fast too. He was a pro triathlete before running, Webb went the other direction, both for just a couple years..

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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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You're talking Lukas Verbizkas.

Plenty of people have gone sub 4. Plenty of people have slowtwitch accounts. Not many intersection between those two sets. In fact, not a single intersection yet shown definitively.

You've thrown out a lot of legitimate sub 4s who have participated in triathlon, but need to link to a st handle or post.
Mottram
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Guy I know who's gone sub 4 more than 40 times (may be afore-mentioned Canadian dude?)

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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [kny] [ In reply to ]
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High School: 5:04
College: Nope
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Post fat: triathlon
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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [kny] [ In reply to ]
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Waysub4 I think is the Canadian's handle, or something like that. As for other fast runners here, I will leave it to Dan and PT to fill in the gaps, he should be back from Italy tomorrow...
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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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One down. I'm hanging by a thread, but it ain't over til the fat lady sings....

Sub 4 is so fast.
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Something like 4:50 in highschool. In my mid twenties I used to go to the track and do 5:30s with thirty seconds rest. Now at 53 I am pathetic. I think I could go sub 7 but would not be good for my mad calf and Achilles tendon issues.

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monty wrote:
Waysub4 I think is the Canadian's handle, or something like that. As for other fast runners here, I will leave it to Dan and PT to fill in the gaps, he should be back from Italy tomorrow...

Graham Hood - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hood
3:51.55 Mile
3:33.94 1500m

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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About 5:35. My short little legs felt like I was going just below an all-out sprint the entire way. I am always amazed when I watch something like the NYC marathon on TV. Clicking off 4:50-5:00 minute smile after mile like it is no big deal.
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Josh S wrote:
monty wrote:
Waysub4 I think is the Canadian's handle, or something like that. As for other fast runners here, I will leave it to Dan and PT to fill in the gaps, he should be back from Italy tomorrow...


Graham Hood - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hood
3:51.55 Mile
3:33.94 1500m

Has done a bunch of 70.3/Ironman, including Hawaii. Husband of Malindi Elmore (Olympian, also done a bunch of 70.3/Ironman).

You may have seen him the Barcelona Olympic 1500m final:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrH6Y6ZcdTI

A truly fantastic runner.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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How did I know you ran a 4:30 mile in high school? That's easy. Everyone ran a 4:30 mile in high school." - Frank Shorter

Always liked that quote.

HS: 4:21
College: 4:12
30: 4:54
45: 5:37
52: 6:44
60: 7:50 (beer mile, went out way too fast at sub-6 past for the first half, then faded very gracefully)

Raced a few times in various senior game meets and USTAF masters, over 50 winners are typically somewhere in the 5s.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [vonschnapps] [ In reply to ]
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Ha, ha. Maybe in Frank Shorter's circle everyone ran 4:30 in H.S., but a 4:40-4:50 won the mile in most dual track meets where I lived. I was really a distance guy and didn't even run competitively in college so I don't have many data points, but here's my trajectory:

17 - 4:27
31 - 4:23
50 - 5:10
61 - Last year of running due to blown right knee.

It was great while it lasted.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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Always athletic, but never ran until I was about 30. Without training for the mile or any real targeted run training, ran my one and only mile for time around 35 at 4:20. I am 40 now and would guess with a little effort would be about the same.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [H2Owings] [ In reply to ]
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You obviously have natural talent cause I had to work VERY hard to run 4:20s. Too bad they didn't have you running track when you were younger!
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I worked my way through high school and college swimming. I have never had the time or motivation to bike for more than a few weeks at a time. I don’t need to swim. I run well at about 3-4 hours a week, but considering triathlon is 1/2 to 2/3 cycling, I am good but will never be great without putting in the time.
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Always athletic, but never ran until I was about 30. Without training for the mile or any real targeted run training, ran my one and only mile for time around 35 at 4:20. I am 40 now and would guess with a little effort would be about the same.

You think you'll run a 4:20 at 40 without specific training and a little effort. Do it. That is fucking fast. Most high schools mile records (or 1600) are right around that time. Hell, show us a video of a 2:10 880; we'll give you the benefit of doubt that you can keep it up for the 2nd half.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [kny] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think most Slowtwitchers have nearly as much respect for a sub 4 min mile as is due. I know several serious milers that spent a career seeking that Great White Whale and came within seconds of getting it and never got the prize. A 4 min mile is a huge milestone in running so to say. Tip of my hat to those that have or even came close.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [G-man] [ In reply to ]
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I spent a college T&F career striving to crack 4 minutes - in the 1500m - and only just barely made it. I would be a full straightaway plus 9 meters behind. Sub-4 mile is insane. There's a reason only 5 or so American high schoolers have ever done it in all history.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [kny] [ In reply to ]
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Your doubt doesn’t impact what I am capable of doing. To do it now, it would be a little effort over what I run now which is maybe 20 miles a week on average and would include a track workout once a week if I was really interested in my mile time.

I believe the high school state record here is around 4:05, which even that like others have stated is in a completely different ballpark than a 4:20.

Edited to add that I would also have to stay injury free which running with more frequency and intensity may be the biggest hurdle.
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A 4:20 mile is a 4:02 1500. That would make you the top middle distance runner on most division 3 collegiate teams. That would mean you could easily run a sub 2 800 meter. A 4:20 mile is around the school record for most individual high schools. Not the state record; of course that is much faster. But for most individual high schools the fastest anyone has ever run for that school in their entire history of thousands of kids running is typically in the 4:17 - 4:22 range.

A 4:20 mile is collegiate level running. Not exceptional collegiate level running, but collegiate level running. I'm calling bs on your blasé claim that at 40 you could just go out and run a 4:20 mile with little effort, and even calling bs that you just winged it one day when you were 30 and ran that.

Prove me wrong. Go out and bust out a 2:10 half right now at age 40. Put it on video and post it.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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6:13 maybe i could break 6 on a really good day. 41 years old. weird thing is i am a descent triathlete, 9:43 ironman this year with a 3:26 ironman run. but i have zero speed
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I had a feeling you couldn’t not respond with more doubt. You keep quoting me wrong. I have already clarified and there is a large difference between “little effort†and “a little more effort than what I currently doâ€. I have nothing to prove to you and will waste no more time thinking about it. If you are having issues believing my abilities, I guess it would blow your mind to know I can name a few others off the top of my head that are faster than me at 40 and I would consider us a small pond in the running community.

Have a great day.
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H2Owings wrote:
I had a feeling you couldn’t not respond with more doubt. You keep quoting me wrong. I have already clarified and there is a large difference between “little effort†and “a little more effort than what I currently doâ€. I have nothing to prove to you and will waste no more time thinking about it. If you are having issues believing my abilities, I guess it would blow your mind to know I can name a few others off the top of my head that are faster than me at 40 and I would consider us a small pond in the running community.

Have a great day.

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [aravilare] [ In reply to ]
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Ran track in high school, tried in college but had to many injuries to get through a season to post a decent time. Never ran the mile but posted a 1:55.1 800m senior yr HS and ran a few sub 1:53 3200m relay splits in there. Likely a sub 4:20 miler if I would have went for that but sub 4 is crazy talk. Even saying I could do 4:20 is a stretch because I never did it.
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H2Owings wrote:
I had a feeling you couldn’t not respond with more doubt. You keep quoting me wrong. I have already clarified and there is a large difference between “little effort†and “a little more effort than what I currently doâ€. I have nothing to prove to you and will waste no more time thinking about it. If you are having issues believing my abilities, I guess it would blow your mind to know I can name a few others off the top of my head that are faster than me at 40 and I would consider us a small pond in the running community.

Have a great day.

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H2Owings wrote:
I had a feeling you couldn’t not respond with more doubt. You keep quoting me wrong. I have already clarified and there is a large difference between “little effort†and “a little more effort than what I currently doâ€. I have nothing to prove to you and will waste no more time thinking about it. If you are having issues believing my abilities, I guess it would blow your mind to know I can name a few others off the top of my head that are faster than me at 40 and I would consider us a small pond in the running community.

Have a great day.

maybe only slightly wrong, but you are the one making pretty remarkable claims. A little more effort than now means about 1 month of serious prep, at most.
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I don't think most Slowtwitchers have nearly as much respect for a sub 4 min mile as is due. I know several serious milers that spent a career seeking that Great White Whale and came within seconds of getting it and never got the prize. A 4 min mile is a huge milestone in running so to say. Tip of my hat to those that have or even came close.

Absolutely spot on. We had a 1:52 800m state champion in HS, and was only able to do around a 4:11. There was a kid at another school that was close to possibly breaking 4 and the press followed him at every meet...he never did do it (had his last name sewn in big letters down the legs of his warm up pants, and on the back of his jacket, so he wasn’t lacking in confidence)!
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Cookiebuilder wrote:
6:13 maybe i could break 6 on a really good day. 41 years old. weird thing is i am a descent triathlete, 9:43 ironman this year with a 3:26 ironman run. but i have zero speed

Around 6 isn’t shabby, it requires some speed!
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vonschnapps wrote:
G-man wrote:
I don't think most Slowtwitchers have nearly as much respect for a sub 4 min mile as is due. I know several serious milers that spent a career seeking that Great White Whale and came within seconds of getting it and never got the prize. A 4 min mile is a huge milestone in running so to say. Tip of my hat to those that have or even came close.


Absolutely spot on. We had a 1:52 800m state champion in HS, and was only able to do around a 4:11. There was a kid at another school that was close to possibly breaking 4 and the press followed him at every meet...he never did do it (had his last name sewn in big letters down the legs of his warm up pants, and on the back of his jacket, so he wasn’t lacking in confidence)!

Yup. I think what rubbed me the wrong way about h2owings, aside from how close his handle is to h2ofun, is his nonchalance of 4:20 as if it's no great shakes. "Oh, I did 4:20 when I was 30 and it was no big deal, and I'm sure I could do it again at 40 too if I threw some speedwork into my training" I am highly skeptical of such claims.

I ran in college. I was a good but not extraordinary D3 runner. I was a 1:57, 3:58, 15:00, 31:30 guy. 3:58 is 4:16 mile equivalent. So I barely managed that "no big deal" 4:20 mile level when young, fast, and training my ass off year round. I appreciate what sub 4 really is and what even the seemingly pedestrian 4:20 is. To think that a bunch of 40yo strong runners not named Bernard Lagat think they are just going to do a few intervals and be able to throw down that time is a bit ludicrous. But, maybe not. I don't know the guy.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [kny] [ In reply to ]
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I was helping out at an intramural meet in college when they were about to run the 440. Bunch of fraternity guys egged on a friend to do it. He lines up in shorts and converse shoes and does it in something like 58. He’s dying afterwards but once he gets his breathing back...he lights up a cigarette!!!!

I’m always surprised at what people can do in terms of running, doesn’t really matter and you guys should save your rage for my Noodle Boat threadðŸ˜
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kny wrote:
To think that a bunch of 40yo strong runners not named Bernard Lagat think they are just going to do a few intervals and be able to throw down that time is a bit ludicrous. But, maybe not.

Early college days at the University of Washington (I didn't run for the school --- track coach told me he wouldn't take any walk-ons) I went to a special track meet as a spectator. Carl Lewis was there, supposed to have done the 100/200 and long jump. He backed out of the 200. Anywho... They had a special over-40 mile event. The winner, who won literally running away on the home stretch, clocked a 4:11.

Mind you, that was in the mid-80's...

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monty wrote:
Waysub4 I think is the Canadian's handle, or something like that. As for other fast runners here, I will leave it to Dan and PT to fill in the gaps, he should be back from Italy tomorrow...

Monty, I thought Paul Thomas was a sub 4 miler. So that leaves Graham Hood and Paul thomas as STers who have gone sub 4. Who else.

On my side I never ran a mile race in High school. During my armed forces fitness test in 3rd year at Royal Military College of Canada when we ran 1.5 miles as part of a test that included sit ups, chin ups, standing broad jump and a shuttle run sprint course, I ran 7:08. This would make my average mile pace 4:45. This was run in regular running shoes (no spikes). I actually used my Nike Sock racers for that run. I regret that I never tried to run a fast mile at the track. Take it down to 1 mile even and spikes and specific miler training and who knows what may have been possible. I had the right body type to do well at that distance as I was 135 lbs and had a decent 200m sprint.
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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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No Dev, PT would have a fit if people thought he was sub 4 for the mile. Along with dan and I, he is the most honest and is the site policeman when people claim old run times. He has caught his share of lets say, fish tales.. I believe he went 4;06/07 or there about. I thought I recalled Lucas V. coming on here back in the day, and Alan Webb during his few year attempt at ITU, and way back when, Craig Mothram in his early pro triathlon days. But if could have just been their coaches or managers, a lot of posts, a lot of time, and a lot of chlorine on the brain.

I do however remember Graham, as he came on here and was talking about these unbelievable times, and made a game out of the 3 of us catching him, and figuring out who he was. PT finally got him, with the help of Dan and his IP search. Narrowing down exactly where this guy was posting from, then doing an extensive web search of the territory he was claiming to have run in..Needless to say, we were more than surprised when we figured out who he really was, that was fun...
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Re: Anyone doing 9/8/19 NYC 5th Avenue Mile - whats your mile time? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Forget fastest milers who have ever posted on st. How about fastest milers to ever participate in triathlon. Got to be Webb (3:46.9) and Mottram (3:48.9), right?

Any T&F or road racing or swim world record holders ever race triathlon? For running that's largely East Africans, so can't think of any candidates. Swimming, can't think of any either.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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If I remember correctly it was 4:4X or 4:5X in high school.

During the Presidential Fitness Test...

...I wasn't a runner, just a hockey player and musical theater geek.

Side note: Do they even do the President Fitness Test in schools anymore?
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [vonschnapps] [ In reply to ]
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vonschnapps wrote:
How did I know you ran a 4:30 mile in high school? That's easy. Everyone ran a 4:30 mile in high school." - Frank Shorter

I’m one of those guys. 4:3x many times in HS, 16:04 5k. I was never a threat to actually break 4:30 though.

(4:3x won a lot of local high school races in 1990-91 because I could fly down the homestretch. But if guys pushed the pace to 4:1x to 4:2x, like they would in a Regional, I was out the back and hopeless.)

I just turned 47. My last 5k was at 6:50 pace and I might be able to run 6:20 but it would make me feel like my heart is going to explode. I’m 5’9 and trim (mid to low 140s) so it isn’t really a weight issue. It’s turnover, stride length, reduced max heart rate, etc.

So, the question, as you age is anyone else ever in awe of your former self? Do you ever look back and wonder how in the hell you moved as fast as you did?

I have new goals and train hard and enjoy going longer and doing the best I can but sometimes I just wonder how I ever moved my legs that fast (and I know, I wasn’t that fast).
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [DieselPete] [ In reply to ]
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I compete (show up) in the 200, 400, and 800m meets, plus run up to half Mary’s in addition to triathlons. At one point a few years ago, in my 50s, I was seriously trying to go sub-60 sec for the 400 (had college track workouts where that was the workout repeat intervals). Fast forward to a speed workout last week on the track, and 83 secs seems to be my new 400m max. And at 61, I’m actually very happy with that.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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4:59 in a street mile in 1984.

I didn't run a timed mile in school as part of any phys ed course, but I did run the very popular Cooper 12-minute test during college.

It's been 20 years since my Kona PR and I was feeling a bit wistful yesterday about my current fitness at age 60. I was thinking about doing the Cooper 12-minute test this year the morning of the Kona race. I could achieve a 100% score for my age (according to this calculator) if I can do 1.75 miles in 12 minutes, which is just under a 7 min/mile pace. I figure if I can do that I'm still pretty fit for my age and then can settle back contently on the couch for the rest of the day watching the Kona coverage.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [DieselPete] [ In reply to ]
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DieselPete wrote:
So, the question, as you age is anyone else ever in awe of your former self? Do you ever look back and wonder how in the hell you moved as fast as you did?
I'm only 25 and I'm amazed by what my fast twitch used to be able to do. If I run an all out 400 at the end of a track session now, I'll probably run it in 68 or something. Without fail my first thought after seeing that number is, "How the hell did I run that 65s 4 times in a row when I was 17?" I'm actually 2 times the athlete I was then but man, the lack of single sport training and a full commitment to developing my slow twitch muscles has definitely taken its toll.

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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3:48 1500m so around 4:05 for the mile and for a true mile, 4:12 on an indoor 200m flat track...both in college. My fast twitch muscles are also long gone, although I bet I could go 4:20's now.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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I ran a local road mile back in the mid 80s when they were sort of a hot thing. 4:45 on just my triathlon training. nearly killed me.

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [Conky] [ In reply to ]
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3:48 is solid. Where did you run?
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [kny] [ In reply to ]
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Penn State Behrend, a DIII branch campus of Penn State
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [Mark Lemmon] [ In reply to ]
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Mark Lemmon wrote:
4:59 in a street mile in 1984.

I didn't run a timed mile in school as part of any phys ed course, but I did run the very popular Cooper 12-minute test during college.

It's been 20 years since my Kona PR and I was feeling a bit wistful yesterday about my current fitness at age 60. I was thinking about doing the Cooper 12-minute test this year the morning of the Kona race. I could achieve a 100% score for my age (according to this calculator) if I can do 1.75 miles in 12 minutes, which is just under a 7 min/mile pace. I figure if I can do that I'm still pretty fit for my age and then can settle back contently on the couch for the rest of the day watching the Kona coverage.

What is interesting is in our military fitness test the pass mark was 10:15 for 1.5 miles. Even the fat football player linemen had to do it or be put on remedial Physical training. This is exactly a 6:50 mile pace. But the fat linemen were not 60 either.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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4:47 last year, not really built like a runner and have been running for 3 years not focussing on an all-out 1600m. Probably could squeeze a few seconds off but not much.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [kny] [ In reply to ]
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Yup. I think what rubbed me the wrong way about h2owings, aside from how close his handle is to h2ofun, is his nonchalance of 4:20 as if it's no great shakes. "Oh, I did 4:20 when I was 30 and it was no big deal, and I'm sure I could do it again at 40 too if I threw some speedwork into my training" I am highly skeptical of such claims.

I ran in college. I was a good but not extraordinary D3 runner. I was a 1:57, 3:58, 15:00, 31:30 guy. 3:58 is 4:16 mile equivalent. So I barely managed that "no big deal" 4:20 mile level when young, fast, and training my ass off year round. I appreciate what sub 4 really is and what even the seemingly pedestrian 4:20 is. To think that a bunch of 40yo strong runners not named Bernard Lagat think they are just going to do a few intervals and be able to throw down that time is a bit ludicrous. But, maybe not. I don't know the guy.

I used to be a track guy too. The only way it works is if he was a very solid D1 swimmer with a huge engine who also had a running background - say competitive soccer or actually used to train intervals. Otherwise he may have run 4:20 for 1500 at age 30, but that is about it. anything is possible, but very unlikely at age thirty (presumably after quitting full competitive swim training) he jumps on the track without spikes and any speedwork and runs a 4:20 mile.

Even more unlikely that he could come even close at 40.

The difference between say a 5 minute mile and 420 is huge. People don't appreciate how the improvement curve flatters at that speed for most runners - even very talented ones.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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Surprised with the number of Sub4 responses. I ran the 3000 meter Steeplechase for a D1 school and could not come close to sub 4. A good 19 seconds out of my wheelhouse, which is a looooooong way from sub4.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [Nerd] [ In reply to ]
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Actually, I think we've only had one single actual sub-4 mile confirmed, by the handle waysub4.

Other sub-4 times referenced are all 1500m. Me, a very d3 typical 3:58. Corky, an extraordinarily d3 fast 3:48. I don't know what year he ran that, but typically that time would be in the hunt for d3 national champion victory. That is screaming - yet still just a 4:05 mile equivalent.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, I also have my doubts about sub 4 milers at age 40. Is he Bernard Lagat? Lopez Lomong?

Only done one mile race (outdoors, point to point, with a couple hills) and ran 5:19.

I can't run a mile much faster than my 5k pace. And my 5k pace is not that much faster than my 10k pace. And I'm young, at age 28, though I never ran, other than basketball, before age 23.
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The Guardian wrote:
kny wrote:
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Yup. I think what rubbed me the wrong way about h2owings, aside from how close his handle is to h2ofun, is his nonchalance of 4:20 as if it's no great shakes. "Oh, I did 4:20 when I was 30 and it was no big deal, and I'm sure I could do it again at 40 too if I threw some speedwork into my training" I am highly skeptical of such claims.

I ran in college. I was a good but not extraordinary D3 runner. I was a 1:57, 3:58, 15:00, 31:30 guy. 3:58 is 4:16 mile equivalent. So I barely managed that "no big deal" 4:20 mile level when young, fast, and training my ass off year round. I appreciate what sub 4 really is and what even the seemingly pedestrian 4:20 is. To think that a bunch of 40yo strong runners not named Bernard Lagat think they are just going to do a few intervals and be able to throw down that time is a bit ludicrous. But, maybe not. I don't know the guy.


I used to be a track guy too. The only way it works is if he was a very solid D1 swimmer with a huge engine who also had a running background - say competitive soccer or actually used to train intervals. Otherwise he may have run 4:20 for 1500 at age 30, but that is about it. anything is possible, but very unlikely at age thirty (presumably after quitting full competitive swim training) he jumps on the track without spikes and any speedwork and runs a 4:20 mile.

Even more unlikely that he could come even close at 40.

The difference between say a 5 minute mile and 420 is huge. People don't appreciate how the improvement curve flatters at that speed for most runners - even very talented ones.

Great points on both posts to those above.

I think I could qualify as that D1 swimmer with a huge engine, but my other background was a lot of cycling and also football (non-American type). I have nice 5k and 10k times, but no way at this point I could ever throw in any amount of speed work and get close to 4. I could quit everything else and run only for a few years and I doubt I'd ever go sub 4:15 at this age, but due to the specificity of spending the past 8 years re-shaping myself in to a different kind of athlete I would never ever get close.

Look at someone who came from a serious running background like Conky had posted and he certainly understands these things well enough not to think he could attain the past achievements of such specificity.
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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I've been towards the pointy end of "normal" masters running for the past 9 years - normal means excluding guys like Lagat, Meb, Abdi, Castille and similar. Now at 49 I can run age graded efforts around 90% on really good days from 5k to the half, they line up pretty good and I'm pretty sure I could hit the 1 mile 90% equivalent too, but I suspect it is pretty accurate to what I could do. IMO, the age grading get a bit more generous as I move up the ranks.

At 40, a 14:50 5k and 31:00 10k lines up with 4:20 mile for age % performancces. Those 5k and 10k times are pretty serious for a masters runner...I get that some runners are faster/slower/stronger/whatever, but it gives a little more context to what a similar effort for a 4:20 mile may be. No doubt, some can do it, but it is at the REALLY pointy end for "normal" masters runners...and the older we get, the faster we "used" to be, and more often than not, our brain often writes checks our bodies can't cash!

So, if someone is able to run a little speed work and be in the running for national championship masters type results in the mile, get after it! Luckily, the not "normal" masters guys typically are out earning money on the roads and don't pay much attention to mile races...
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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [JeffJ] [ In reply to ]
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Here are the pros at sub 4

Winner @ 3:54
Fifth Avenue Mile 2018 men's race (FULL) I NBC Sports
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtewIpV52m8

https://results.nyrr.org/...t/185THAVE/finishers

Winner @ 3:52
2017
https://www.nbcsports.com/...th-avenue-mile-title

https://results.nyrr.org/event/5AV-17/finishers

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Re: Whats your 1 Mile PR [plant_based] [ In reply to ]
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Coleen Quigley hit 4:20 in last year's race - pretty legit.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleen_Quigley


Professional[edit]
Quigley signed professionally with the Bowerman Track Club in June 2015. Later that year, she finished third in the steeplechase in 9:24.92 at the 2015 USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships, and finished 12th in the 3000 metres steeplechase event at the 2015 World Championships in Athletics in Beijing, China.[5][6][7]
She ran 9:20.00 to place ninth in the Diamond League event, Meeting de Paris, 2016.[8] Prior to that, Quigley had run a personal best time of 9:21.10 to place eighth in the 3000 metres steeplechase at the 2016 Summer Olympics. Quigley had also run a personal best time of 9:21.29 to place third in the steeplechase behind Team USA teammates Emma Coburn and Courtney Frerichs at the 2016 United States Olympic Trials to qualify to represent the United States at the 2016 Summer Olympics.[9] On September 3, 2018, she lowered her steeplechase PR to 9:10.27 winning at ISTASF in Berlin, becoming the third-fastest American woman ever.[10]
On June 30, 2019, she ran 9:11.41 to place seventh, and third American, in the star-studded Diamond League steeple at the Prefontaine Classic held in Stanford, California. [11]


NCAA[edit]
Colleen Quigley earned nine NCAA All-American honors while running for Florida State University.[12]
She won 2015 the NCAA Women's Division I Outdoor Track and Field Championships Steeplechase title.[13] She won 2015 Division 1 Atlantic Coast Conference Outdoor Track 1500 meters title.Watch 1500 Final
Quigley earned 2015 Division 1 NCAA Indoor Women's Track and Field Championships Mile run bronze medal. She won 2015 Division 1 Atlantic Coast Conference Indoor Track Mile run and Distance medley relay titles.[13] She won Boston University Terriers Invitational Mile run in a FSU record 4:29.67 and Distance medley relay titles.[14] She won Auburn Tigers Invitational Mile run title.
She won 2014 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Regional Cross country running title. She won 2014 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Atlantic Coast Conference Cross country running silver medal.[13] She won 2014 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Virginia Tech Hokies Invitational and Lehigh Mountain Hawks Invitational titles.[13]
She won 2014 Division 1 Atlantic Coast Conference Outdoor Track Steeplechase title.[13] She won 2014 Division 1 Alabama Crimson Tide Invitational 1500 meters title.[13] She won 2014 Division 1 Florida State Seminoles Invitational Steeplechase title.[13]
She won 2014 Division 1 Atlantic Coast Conference Indoor Track Mile run title.[13] She won 2014 Division 1 Washington Huskies Classic Distance medley relay title.[13] She won 2014 Division 1 Indoor Track University of New Mexico Invitational 800 meters title.[13]
She placed sixth 2013 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship national championships. She won 2013 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Regional Cross country running title. She earned silver medal 2013 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Atlantic Coast Conference Cross country running.[13] She won 2013 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Florida State Seminoles Invitational and earned Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Wake Forest Demon Deacons, Appalachian State Mountaineers Invitational silver medals.[13]
Quigley earned 2013 Division 1 NCAA Outdoor Women's Track and Field Championship Steeplechase silver medal.[13]
She placed twelfth 2012 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship national championships. She earned silver medal at 2012 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Regional championships. She placed fourth 2013 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship Atlantic Coast Conference Cross country running.[13] She won 2013 NCAA Women's Division I Cross Country Championship University of Louisville Cardinals Pre-national Invitational and won 2012 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Invitational title.[13] She placed 4th at the Virginia Tech Hokies Invitational.[13]
Quigley earned fifth place at 2012 Division 1 NCAA Outdoor Women's Track and Field Championship Steeplechase.[13] She earned a silver medal at 2012 Division 1 Atlantic Coast Conference Outdoor Track Steeplechase final.[13] She earned fourth at 2012 Division 1 Atlantic Coast Conference Indoor Track Mile run title.[13]



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