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I don't quite understand this. You willingly put your body out there on display, using your body to promote your product and your cookbook, so, does that make you immune to criticism?


Kristin Cavallari, 32, is being body-shamed on social media after sharing photos this week from a beachy promo shoot for her jewelry brand Uncommon James.
The images depict a scantily clad Cavallari teasing a topless swim look on Mexico’s Pacific coast, near Puerto Vallarta, and looking easy-breezy in her blue bikini on a yacht.
But some social media watchdogs claim the designer and mom of three is just “too skinny.”
“When eating ‘healthy’ makes you look sick, maybe it’s time to eat a little unhealthy,” wrote one critical fan. “A grown woman with the body of a 10-year-old boy is not normal and it never will be. Just think, the camera adds 10 pounds, so in person she must really look like she’s on her death bed.”
“Tooo thin … go eat a burger, or a real full meal!!” said another.


One woman said:

“I am so tired of grown women thinking the comment section is an appropriate place to body shame and disrespect other women,” one supporter clapped back.

Huh? The celeb posted the pictures to (a) promote her products, (b) promote herself, and (c) get reactions. She is using her scantily-clad body to do so.

When someone says - you are looking too thin and unhealthy, is that really body shaming?

When I am trying to sell you on my diet and my cookbook, but, I look terrible (either too thin or too heavy) is it really inappropriate to comment?

I just do not understand this mentality where people want to post their "sexy" image all over the interwebs for their own self-promotion or even just self-gratification, then get bent all out of shape when there are negative comments.

Full article: https://nypost.com/...keletor-bikini-pics/

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She's not anorexic and doesn't look unhealthy, people need to relax...

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I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize her look, whatever it is.
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Can we all agree she's a better catch than whatever Rogers is going to marry?
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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Looks ok to me. That surely is a healthy shape and size.

<rant>There was another one this week where they had a go at Eilish McColgan a middle distance runner in the UK. Of course she's thin - she's got a runner's build. This is normal folks.

I disagree with the fatties normalising carrying 30Ib of lard around on their arses and complaining at everyone else because they can't get off their couch and go to the gym. </rant>
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ThisIsIt wrote:
I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize anybody's look, whatever it is.

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize her look, whatever it is.

Disable the comment section. Otherwise, kinda seems like she is posting in order to receive comments about her looks.

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [palmtrees] [ In reply to ]
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palmtrees wrote:
She's not anorexic and doesn't look unhealthy, people need to relax...

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Well, I agree. But, that's not the point of the thread.

Especially when you are a celeb - when you blast your sexy photos all over the interwebs, and enable comments, aren't you seeking comments? Is it really "body shaming" when someone says she looks too thin and needs a sammich?

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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TheRef65 wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize anybody's look, whatever it is.


FIFY

When I post a picture of my adorable puppy on the interwebs, I expect to get comments about how cute she is. Sure, some may say she is ugly, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - I'm posting to get affirmation from strangers that my puppy is cute.

When windywave posts dick-pics on the interwebs, he expects to get comments. Sure, his penis is small and ugly, but, some may say it is pretty, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - windy is posting to get affirmation from strangers that his penis is small.

When celebs post nearly nekkid pics on the interwebs, they expect to get comments about how hot they are. Bottom line - they are posting to get affirmation from strangers that they are hot.

So ... you are kinda asking for it, are you not?

See how cute she is:




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JSA wrote:

Especially when you are a celeb - when you blast your sexy photos all over the interwebs, and enable comments, aren't you seeking comments? Is it really "body shaming" when someone says she looks too thin and needs a sammich?


That's the main thing of all of social media type endeavors: attention. Whether it's likes, retweets, or comments, all people want is to be noticed and get that dopamine kick. People don't expect criticism, and when it happens they don't know how to handle it.

And no, if you're not anorexic (which is really obvious to tell and unhealthy), then calling someone too skinny is not body shaming. But the parallel doesn't follow in this outage culture, if you're not morbidly obese (which is really obvious to tell and unhealthy), then calling someone too fat IS body shaming.

I just don't say anything to anyone. Holy shit I'll call a girl pretty/good looking/etc and get ridiculed like you wouldn't believe

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [palmtrees] [ In reply to ]
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palmtrees wrote:
JSA wrote:

Especially when you are a celeb - when you blast your sexy photos all over the interwebs, and enable comments, aren't you seeking comments? Is it really "body shaming" when someone says she looks too thin and needs a sammich?


That's the main thing of all of social media type endeavors: attention. Whether it's likes, retweets, or comments, all people want is to be noticed and get that dopamine kick. People don't expect criticism, and when it happens they don't know how to handle it.

And no, if you're not anorexic (which is really obvious to tell and unhealthy), then calling someone too skinny is not body shaming. But the parallel doesn't follow in this outage culture, if you're not morbidly obese (which is really obvious to tell and unhealthy), then calling someone too fat IS body shaming.

I just don't say anything to anyone

Agreed, completely.

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
So ... you are kinda asking for it, are you not?

See how cute she is:



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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize anybody's look, whatever it is.


FIFY


When I post a picture of my adorable puppy on the interwebs, I expect to get comments about how cute she is. Sure, some may say she is ugly, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - I'm posting to get affirmation from strangers that my puppy is cute.

When windywave posts dick-pics on the interwebs, he expects to get comments. Sure, his penis is small and ugly, but, some may say it is pretty, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - windy is posting to get affirmation from strangers that his penis is small.

When celebs post nearly nekkid pics on the interwebs, they expect to get comments about how hot they are. Bottom line - they are posting to get affirmation from strangers that they are hot.

So ... you are kinda asking for it, are you not?

See how cute she is:



Ok, first off, she is cute as hell. Second, I know why people post the stuff but I don't understand the mentality of feeling you have to comment. If you like it fine, if you don't, fine. Kind of like, how in the hell do people watch the Kardashians?

It would be completely different if someone posted and asked the question, then I'd comment. Otherwise, who gives a shit.

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, first off, she is cute as hell. Second, I know why people post the stuff but I don't understand the mentality of feeling you have to comment. If you like it fine, if you don't, fine. Kind of like, how in the hell do people watch the Kardashians?

It would be completely different if someone posted and asked the question, then I'd comment. Otherwise, who gives a shit.

I hear ya. I agree. But, that is the world we now live in!

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize anybody's look, whatever it is.


FIFY

When I post a picture of my adorable puppy on the interwebs, I expect to get comments about how cute she is. Sure, some may say she is ugly, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - I'm posting to get affirmation from strangers that my puppy is cute.

When windywave posts dick-pics on the interwebs, he expects to get comments. Sure, his penis is small and ugly, but, some may say it is pretty, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - windy is posting to get affirmation from strangers that his penis is small.

When celebs post nearly nekkid pics on the interwebs, they expect to get comments about how hot they are. Bottom line - they are posting to get affirmation from strangers that they are hot.

So ... you are kinda asking for it, are you not?

See how cute she is:



I think kinda asking for the positive, only a masochist would want to hear the negative. Just be nice, it’s not that hard.
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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night king been around recently?
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize anybody's look, whatever it is.


FIFY

When I post a picture of my adorable puppy on the interwebs, I expect to get comments about how cute she is. Sure, some may say she is ugly, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - I'm posting to get affirmation from strangers that my puppy is cute.

When windywave posts dick-pics on the interwebs, he expects to get comments. Sure, his penis is small and ugly, but, some may say it is pretty, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - windy is posting to get affirmation from strangers that his penis is small.

When celebs post nearly nekkid pics on the interwebs, they expect to get comments about how hot they are. Bottom line - they are posting to get affirmation from strangers that they are hot.

So ... you are kinda asking for it, are you not?

See how cute she is:



Goddamn dog is too skinny! Feed her a sandwich!

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Ok. That was funny!

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:


Ok, first off, she is cute as hell. Second, I know why people post the stuff but I don't understand the mentality of feeling you have to comment. If you like it fine, if you don't, fine. Kind of like, how in the hell do people watch the Kardashians?

It would be completely different if someone posted and asked the question, then I'd comment. Otherwise, who gives a shit.


I hear ya. I agree. But, that is the world we now live in!
Which is worse, people who comment on celebrity social media or people who comment about commenters on celebrity social media or people who comment about the commenters commenting on commenters on celebrity social media. I think the first.
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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I laughed when I read "Social Media Watchdogs". Gotta love those self-given titles.
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [schroeder] [ In reply to ]
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how about a rule where you can't comment on anybody's body without a full length of your own. Let the games begin.
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Kristen Cavallari never actually complained of anything. She wasn't even quoted in the article. You reposted some fake news about a disagreement in a comment section.
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [rich_m] [ In reply to ]
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rich_m wrote:
night king been around recently?

HA!

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SH wrote:
Kristen Cavallari never actually complained of anything. She wasn't even quoted in the article. You reposted some fake news about a disagreement in a comment section.

If an African-American celebrity posts a picture, and several people comment calling said celeb the n word, but, the celeb doesn't complain, is it fake news to report people calling the celeb the n word?

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [kiki] [ In reply to ]
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kiki wrote:
how about a rule where you can't comment on anybody's body without a full length of your own. Let the games begin.

There’s nothing wrong with talking about the appearance of others, flattering or unflattering, especially if they will never hear it.

If you’re saying negative things to them or writing things where they are likely to see them, then you’re just being an asshole.
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JSA wrote:
SH wrote:
Kristen Cavallari never actually complained of anything. She wasn't even quoted in the article. You reposted some fake news about a disagreement in a comment section.


If an African-American celebrity posts a picture, and several people comment calling said celeb the n word, but, the celeb doesn't complain, is it fake news to report people calling the celeb the n word?


You wrote this...

"I just do not understand this mentality where people want to post their "sexy" image all over the interwebs for their own self-promotion or even just self-gratification, then get bent all out of shape when there are negative comments. "


She didn't get bent all out of shape. She wasn't even quoted. You don't have your facts straight.
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SH wrote:
JSA wrote:
SH wrote:
Kristen Cavallari never actually complained of anything. She wasn't even quoted in the article. You reposted some fake news about a disagreement in a comment section.


If an African-American celebrity posts a picture, and several people comment calling said celeb the n word, but, the celeb doesn't complain, is it fake news to report people calling the celeb the n word?


You wrote this...

"I just do not understand this mentality where people want to post their "sexy" image all over the interwebs for their own self-promotion or even just self-gratification, then get bent all out of shape when there are negative comments. "


She didn't get bent all out of shape. She wasn't even quoted. You don't have your facts straight.

Wow. You don't really understand how a discussion works, do you?

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [SH] [ In reply to ]
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SH wrote:
JSA wrote:
SH wrote:
Kristen Cavallari never actually complained of anything. She wasn't even quoted in the article. You reposted some fake news about a disagreement in a comment section.


If an African-American celebrity posts a picture, and several people comment calling said celeb the n word, but, the celeb doesn't complain, is it fake news to report people calling the celeb the n word?


You wrote this...

"I just do not understand this mentality where people want to post their "sexy" image all over the interwebs for their own self-promotion or even just self-gratification, then get bent all out of shape when there are negative comments. "


She didn't get bent all out of shape. She wasn't even quoted. You don't have your facts straight.

This kind of proves the hypothesis. See she must be too skinny if she looks like that and has thick skin!!! Think how emancipated she would look if she had normal skin.
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JSA wrote:
So ... you are kinda asking for it, are you not?

See how cute she is:



I'll bet she is smart too.
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
SH wrote:
Kristen Cavallari never actually complained of anything. She wasn't even quoted in the article. You reposted some fake news about a disagreement in a comment section.


If an African-American celebrity posts a picture, and several people comment calling said celeb the n word, but, the celeb doesn't complain, is it fake news to report people calling the celeb the n word?

Nothing fake about that -- just as real as what I read on door of stall in truck stop bathroom while traveling last week.

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JSA wrote:
SH wrote:
JSA wrote:
SH wrote:
Kristen Cavallari never actually complained of anything. She wasn't even quoted in the article. You reposted some fake news about a disagreement in a comment section.


If an African-American celebrity posts a picture, and several people comment calling said celeb the n word, but, the celeb doesn't complain, is it fake news to report people calling the celeb the n word?


You wrote this...

"I just do not understand this mentality where people want to post their "sexy" image all over the interwebs for their own self-promotion or even just self-gratification, then get bent all out of shape when there are negative comments. "


She didn't get bent all out of shape. She wasn't even quoted. You don't have your facts straight.


Wow. You don't really understand how a discussion works, do you?

I'll leave this up to the consideration of our readers.
I'm not going down one of your rabbit holes.
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Wow. You don't really understand how a discussion works, do you?


He only comprehends GIFs. So try something like this:




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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
palmtrees wrote:
She's not anorexic and doesn't look unhealthy, people need to relax...

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Well, I agree. But, that's not the point of the thread.

Especially when you are a celeb - when you blast your sexy photos all over the interwebs, and enable comments, aren't you seeking comments? Is it really "body shaming" when someone says she looks too thin and needs a sammich?

Yes, and yes.

Yes, she posted those photos fully expecting people to comment on how she looks. And yes, it's still body shaming if you're posting comments about how a person should lose or gain weight.

If it was a fat woman and someone said she should eat a salad, i don't think there'd be any confusion.

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Here's what I don't understand:

Are 'journalists' that hard up for material that they have to read through the comments section of an obscure photo shoot to find their source of outrage material?






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JSA wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
I don’t understand why people feel the need to publicly criticize anybody's look, whatever it is.


FIFY

When I post a picture of my adorable puppy on the interwebs, I expect to get comments about how cute she is. Sure, some may say she is ugly, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - I'm posting to get affirmation from strangers that my puppy is cute.

When windywave posts dick-pics on the interwebs, he expects to get comments. Sure, his penis is small and ugly, but, some may say it is pretty, but, they are doo-doo-heads. Bottom line - windy is posting to get affirmation from strangers that his penis is small.

When celebs post nearly nekkid pics on the interwebs, they expect to get comments about how hot they are. Bottom line - they are posting to get affirmation from strangers that they are hot.

So ... you are kinda asking for it, are you not?

See how cute she is:



This is the only redeeming part of this thread. more doggie pics, fewer D list celebrity bullshit. FWIW, to scrawny for my personal tastes, but doesn’t look unhealthy or ill.

Now, she did marry and procreate with jay cutler, so clearly she is a dumbass, , but . . .
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Especially when you are a celeb - when you blast your sexy photos all over the interwebs, and enable comments, aren't you seeking comments?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that her goal was not to have people tell her how shitty she looks.


I write, play, and record music all the time, as do many of my friends. We don't put our stuff out there because we want people to tell us how much we suck. What we'd prefer is that if you like it, give a little thumbs up, show up to our shows, maybe drop a dollar in the tip jar, or even drop the occasional compliment. If you don't like it, then move the fuck on with your life and go and find something that you do like without being a dick about it.

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Especially when you are a celeb - when you blast your sexy photos all over the interwebs, and enable comments, aren't you seeking comments?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that her goal was not to have people tell her how shitty she looks.


I write, play, and record music all the time, as do many of my friends. We don't put our stuff out there because we want people to tell us how much we suck. What we'd prefer is that if you like it, give a little thumbs up, show up to our shows, maybe drop a dollar in the tip jar, or even drop the occasional compliment. If you don't like it, then move the fuck on with your life and go and find something that you do like without being a dick about it.

What if someone were offended by your music? Is that beyond the realm?






JK. Your are absolutely right.

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Lots of negative comments and hate comes from jealous and envious people.
BTW, your pooch so sooooooooooooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuute :-)
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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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Another "victim" - Heidi Klum.



Heidi Klum is living her best newlywed life on her Italian honeymoon with husband Tom Kaulitz. But her topless photos flooding people’s Instagram feeds aren’t leaving everyone filled with marital bliss.

In fact, two of her recent risqué photos have followers calling the 46-year-old out for being a poor role model, and even suggesting that she’s going through a midlife crisis.
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“You look like my 70-year-old mom from the back,” one person commented. While another said, “You need to hit the gym grandma.”

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Re: "Body Shaming" celebs for being too skinny [palmtrees] [ In reply to ]
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palmtrees wrote:
She's not anorexic and doesn't look unhealthy, people need to relax...

Peak outage culture

Peak culture of normalizing fatties.

While I agree that "skinny unhealthy" is a thing..........neither is it healthy normalizing people being 30, 40, 50, 100+ pounds overweight. And we're not talking over "ideal". We're talking over the maximum range where you begin to be mildly obese.

I can get being inclusive and not being an ass to people. I can get not using clothing models that are 90 or 100 lbs. But, a healthy woman that isn't a world crossfit or lifting champion shouldn't weigh 200 lbs and be under 5' 5" tall. That ain't healthy. And that's the new "norm" being pushed everywhere.

Also, with the normalization of being a fattie..........it's unfortunately also becoming universally accepted to still dress half naked. If it takes you 20min to put on yoga pants, you probably shouldn't be wearing them in public. Nobody wants to see that. Same nobody wants to see a Borat-like banana hammock.
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But, a healthy woman that isn't a world crossfit or lifting champion shouldn't weigh 200 lbs and be under 5' 5" tall. That ain't healthy. And that's the new "norm" being pushed everywhere.

The average 20 year old woman weighs 170.6 lbs, 5'4", and has a waist of 38.6 inches.

I'm 21 and weigh ~150lbs, 5'6", and my waist is <28 inches.

It makes relationships weird

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Also, I know to an extent people get used to carrying the mass. But, when I carry a bucket of mortar to our bath remodel or feed bags to the shed I always think “man, it would suck to weigh that much more!”. Also dead vs live weight yada yada yada. But still.
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burnthesheep wrote:
palmtrees wrote:
She's not anorexic and doesn't look unhealthy, people need to relax...

Peak outage culture


Peak culture of normalizing fatties.

While I agree that "skinny unhealthy" is a thing..........neither is it healthy normalizing people being 30, 40, 50, 100+ pounds overweight. And we're not talking over "ideal". We're talking over the maximum range where you begin to be mildly obese.

I can get being inclusive and not being an ass to people. I can get not using clothing models that are 90 or 100 lbs. But, a healthy woman that isn't a world crossfit or lifting champion shouldn't weigh 200 lbs and be under 5' 5" tall. That ain't healthy. And that's the new "norm" being pushed everywhere.

Also, with the normalization of being a fattie..........it's unfortunately also becoming universally accepted to still dress half naked. If it takes you 20min to put on yoga pants, you probably shouldn't be wearing them in public. Nobody wants to see that. Same nobody wants to see a Borat-like banana hammock.

Agreed with everything you wrote (especially the bolded portion..which applies to dicks calling people fat AND dicks calling people too skinny). Another example of my very intricate and deep guiding philosophy in life - just don't be a dick.

Honest question - is there much normalizing of male fatties? Seem's everything I read about it (which is basically just here from time to time) is all female focused.

Or do we not care because dudes are just generally considered to be gross anyhow?

Way to balance out the yoga pants statement with the banana hammock one btw.
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palmtrees wrote:
She's not anorexic and doesn't look unhealthy, people need to relax...

Peak outage culture


Peak culture of normalizing fatties.

While I agree that "skinny unhealthy" is a thing..........neither is it healthy normalizing people being 30, 40, 50, 100+ pounds overweight. And we're not talking over "ideal". We're talking over the maximum range where you begin to be mildly obese.

I can get being inclusive and not being an ass to people. I can get not using clothing models that are 90 or 100 lbs. But, a healthy woman that isn't a world crossfit or lifting champion shouldn't weigh 200 lbs and be under 5' 5" tall. That ain't healthy. And that's the new "norm" being pushed everywhere.

Also, with the normalization of being a fattie..........it's unfortunately also becoming universally accepted to still dress half naked. If it takes you 20min to put on yoga pants, you probably shouldn't be wearing them in public. Nobody wants to see that. Same nobody wants to see a Borat-like banana hammock.

The issue is how we straddle the fact that obesity is not desirable with the fact that we don't want to make obese people feel bad or "cancelled". I feel like you called that right.

I'm not sure focusing on what you want to see is a good place to start. I don't want people to be fat -- so I'm not normalizing. However, suggesting people must hide their bodies until they are the correct weight seems like an overreaction with high levels of bad secondary effects.
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Also, I know to an extent people get used to carrying the mass. But, when I carry a bucket of mortar to our bath remodel or feed bags to the shed I always think “man, it would suck to weigh that much more!”. Also dead vs live weight yada yada yada. But still.

Back when I was racing bikes I dropped from 180-190 lbs to 150-160 lbs and it made a big difference in just moving easier through the world.
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Also, I know to an extent people get used to carrying the mass. But, when I carry a bucket of mortar to our bath remodel or feed bags to the shed I always think “man, it would suck to weigh that much more!”. Also dead vs live weight yada yada yada. But still.

Did you see Chris Hemsworth put on the fat suit for fat Thor? It was 70 lbs. He said it was exhausting carrying that extra weight, and it was distributed fairly well. Yes, the toll it takes on joints, heart, lungs, etc. is incredible.




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Honest question - is there much normalizing of male fatties? Seem's everything I read about it (which is basically just here from time to time) is all female focused.

Or do we not care because dudes are just generally considered to be gross anyhow?

No one gives a shit about guys in any capacity in modern society

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palmtrees wrote:
Skipjack wrote:

Honest question - is there much normalizing of male fatties? Seem's everything I read about it (which is basically just here from time to time) is all female focused.

Or do we not care because dudes are just generally considered to be gross anyhow?


No one gives a shit about guys in any capacity in modern society

No, it's found in the attempt to claim that "dad bods" are the goal now.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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palmtrees wrote:
Skipjack wrote:

Honest question - is there much normalizing of male fatties? Seem's everything I read about it (which is basically just here from time to time) is all female focused.

Or do we not care because dudes are just generally considered to be gross anyhow?


No one gives a shit about guys in any capacity in modern society


No, it's found in the attempt to claim that "dad bods" are the goal now.

I didn't realize that was the goal now, thank you for making me feel better about myself.
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j p o wrote:
palmtrees wrote:
Skipjack wrote:

Honest question - is there much normalizing of male fatties? Seem's everything I read about it (which is basically just here from time to time) is all female focused.

Or do we not care because dudes are just generally considered to be gross anyhow?


No one gives a shit about guys in any capacity in modern society


No, it's found in the attempt to claim that "dad bods" are the goal now.


I didn't realize that was the goal now, thank you for making me feel better about myself.

Yep.

https://www.msn.com/...tudy-says/ar-AAD3K0P

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Also, I know to an extent people get used to carrying the mass. But, when I carry a bucket of mortar to our bath remodel or feed bags to the shed I always think “man, it would suck to weigh that much more!”. Also dead vs live weight yada yada yada. But still.

Walking in to work this morning I saw a man and woman walking in from their car; him-approximately 120+ pounds overweight, her-I'd guess 80-90.

In the 100 yards to the front door I saw them stop three times to catch their breath.

It wouldn't be very fun.

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Also, with the normalization of being a fattie..........


The reason why people are trying to normalize it is that it's one of the remaining places where much of our society feels that it is still perfectly acceptable to be disrespectful to them, your post as an example.

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JSA wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
j p o wrote:
palmtrees wrote:
Skipjack wrote:

Honest question - is there much normalizing of male fatties? Seem's everything I read about it (which is basically just here from time to time) is all female focused.

Or do we not care because dudes are just generally considered to be gross anyhow?


No one gives a shit about guys in any capacity in modern society


No, it's found in the attempt to claim that "dad bods" are the goal now.


I didn't realize that was the goal now, thank you for making me feel better about myself.


Yep.

https://www.msn.com/...tudy-says/ar-AAD3K0P

Yeah, that shit doesn't fly in my house. My wife ordered a couple pair of jeans for me last Christmas. I told her that I wasn't sure the same size would still fit. She told me that was what we had so I better figure out how to make them work.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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j p o wrote:
palmtrees wrote:
Skipjack wrote:

Honest question - is there much normalizing of male fatties? Seem's everything I read about it (which is basically just here from time to time) is all female focused.

Or do we not care because dudes are just generally considered to be gross anyhow?


No one gives a shit about guys in any capacity in modern society


No, it's found in the attempt to claim that "dad bods" are the goal now.

Careful

I started a "dad bod" thread a little while ago, and it got locked

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...s_P6959485/#p6959485

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Yeah is it really that hard to talk about the potential health consequences of obesity while not being insulting?
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Also, with the normalization of being a fattie..........


The reason why people are trying to normalize it is that it's one of the remaining places where much of our society feels that it is still perfectly acceptable to be disrespectful to them, your post as an example.

Barry, I agree with you. I really do. It's a tough topic because it is a real health crisis and it is getting worse. One area truly hard hit is elderly care. Wifie was the rehab director at a long term care facility. In the last few years, she was seeing an issue that is not well known. First, the people come into what should be a geriatric unit are getting younger and younger because their bodies are breaking down from excess weight. Second, it is getting harder and harder for rehab to work with them. Companies have had to build new lifts, new bed, and new wheelchairs to accommodate the increased size of individuals coming into these facilities. In addition, staff are simply unable to move some of these people.

I know you are not disagreeing with this and I don't mean to sound like I am opposing anything you said. I fully agree with you and am not implying you feel contrary to my statement. It just seemed like your comment was a good jumping off point for me to make my tangential remarks.

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A friend of mine, after doing some reading on the topic, has said several times, "So you're a white man and you're almost 50? Over the next 20 years, you're friends are going to start dying off, mostly the overweight ones." As I type that I'm reminded that I just lost one a couple of months ago.

Also, to your point, my cousin is a back surgeon. One of the things he finds frustrating is that a lot of his patients are severely obese. Its their weight that is causing their back problems, but he said that he can't even operate on them because they are too heavy.

We move a lot less than we used to, and we have a lot more unhealthy food available.

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And its my cholesterol that's going to kill me (speaking of food related health).

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We move a lot less than we used to, and we have a lot more unhealthy food available.

This is the problem.

People today are exorbitantly lazy. People today are exorbitantly consumed by gluttony. Obesity is a 110% self inflicted issue that does NOT have to exist if you don't want it to.
I don't think it's okay to be fat because it's not. It's unhealthy for endless reasons.

Here's a story. I had a good friend who was pretty overweight because he drank sugary drinks 24/7, ate fast food for every meal, and didn't exercise. Instead of just accepting him as is and "not being a dick" I told him that he was a fat ass and needed to lose weight. In the short term, he thought I was an asshole, naturally. But in the long term, he ended up losing over 65 pounds because of the rude awakening. His posture improved, his confidence, everything changed for him.

People need to not be accepting of absolutely EVERYTHING just because they don't want to make waves. Obviously YMMV

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The reason why people are trying to normalize it is that it's one of the remaining places where much of our society feels that it is still perfectly acceptable to be disrespectful to them, your post as an example.

You bring up a good point. Speaking for myself in retrospect I did not hesitate to type out "fattie" in my response either (did not even pause doing that). Breaking my #1 life philosophy. Good reminder and point.
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The reason why people are trying to normalize it is that it's one of the remaining places where much of our society feels that it is still perfectly acceptable to be disrespectful to them, your post as an example.


You bring up a good point. Speaking for myself in retrospect I did not hesitate to type out "fattie" in my response either (did not even pause doing that). Breaking my #1 life philosophy. Good reminder and point.

Ok, ok. Fine. I didn't either.

How about I agree that talking off the cuff about "fatties" is equally unproductive as not using a medically appropriate and necessary label such as "obese"?

I'll agree to not denigrate folks. It's the same as calling someone a retard who has a mental handicap.

But, today's society is pretty much making it non-PC to even call people obese. I'm not talking about personal identifiers either. Like, "who is Bob"? Well Bob is the guy with black hair in a GI cut who is average height and likes to vape.

I mean, when referring to serious issues with people like being a smoker, an alcoholic, etc.... It's equally as serious, but it's "too touchy".

I file it under the "common man's crime" idea. Everyone speeds and kills pedestrians and cyclists, so nobody really wants to make the punishment harsh. So many people are obese, they hold enough power in the social strata to make it "wrong" to say they're obese.

IIRC we had a mini-war on cigarette smoking in this country, pretty successfully.

I can't see an equal war on obesity going off too well.
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A friend of mine, after doing some reading on the topic, has said several times, "So you're a white man and you're almost 50? Over the next 20 years, you're friends are going to start dying off, mostly the overweight ones." As I type that I'm reminded that I just lost one a couple of months ago.

Also, to your point, my cousin is a back surgeon. One of the things he finds frustrating is that a lot of his patients are severely obese. Its their weight that is causing their back problems, but he said that he can't even operate on them because they are too heavy.

We move a lot less than we used to, and we have a lot more unhealthy food available.

A friend of mine who is an anesthesiologist does epidurals for women in labor and complains a majority of his patients are so fat he can't find where he should be inserting the needle for the injection in the back. You have to guess where your markers are on the back because all the usual indicators ( hip bones, spine contour etc) are covered in layers of fat.
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lose weight or it's a natural birth for you?

that's a good incentive.
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Well, except it's already far too late at that point. It's already too late as soon as they're pregnant, for that matter; nobody loses weight during a pregnancy. Hell, even a lot of expecting dads tend to gain weight along w/ their wives/baby mamas.
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My wife lost two pounds during pregnancy.
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Well, except it's already far too late at that point. It's already too late as soon as they're pregnant, for that matter; nobody loses weight during a pregnancy. Hell, even a lot of expecting dads tend to gain weight along w/ their wives/baby mamas.

Not to mention sending the baby's brain the message that there isn't enough food in the world seems like a good way to bias that baby to becoming an overweight adult if in fact there is plenty of food (e.g. Dutch Hunger Winter study, etc.)
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Which is worse, people who comment on celebrity social media or people who comment about commenters on celebrity social media or people who comment about the commenters commenting on commenters on celebrity social media. I think the first.
I love it! I was thinking "Why did the comments on a celebrities social media become a news piece?"
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Obesity is a 110% self inflicted issue that does NOT have to exist if you don't want it to.


That's not entirely true. I used to think so until I've known enough people who really struggle with their body weight. A lot of it is self inflicted. Some of it is genetic. Some of it is societal.


Most people have a range of weights that are realistic if they don't live in a concentration camp. There's the sedentary and eat like shit weight. There's the exercise moderately and eat moderately weight. And there's the live like a professional athlete weight.

At 6'3" my ranges used to be 185lbs. 165lbs. 150lbs. At 46 years old, those ranges are now 220lbs (I'm guessing). 190lbs. 170 lbs (again, guessing). Someone like Oprah Winfrey is going to have a propensity to put on a lot more body fat than someone like Steve Buscemi. Its unrealistic for people raising kids while working desk jobs and having an interest in something other than obsessive triathloning to live like a professional athlete. Some of those people will never see the south side of 200 lbs.

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