I’d say no, that should not be possible so soon after a challenging IM. That being said, Terenzo seems to go on runs where he races well in close succession.

Still gonna say no. At best he finishes 2nd.

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if he does, i will not be surprised by the outrageous feat.

As a Terenzo fan, I hope he blows up and shows that he’s human. If he wins again and continues this win streak by going 3 wins in 3 consecutive weekends (70.3, Ironman, 70.3) then I’ll doubt things even more...I don’t care how for you are and how quickly you recover, that’s not natural.

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I don't think that's fair. He has busted his ass. He is back and excited to race. He is motivated and his coach is pretty bad ass and on top of HRV training and Fat Adaption, monitoring him close. 70.3s aren't going to pull much out of these guys. Basically a hard bike ride for 2 hours and a 1:15-1:20 minute run. Isn't that your basic weekend workout building for an Ironman?

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70.3 is long training day, another day at the office,... He spent all year ramping up to this racing block... His legs are fresh

He clearly sandbagged imwa... His slowest time there yet

And with all due respect, Bahrain isn't the world champs... Which he has also won in the past

Terrenzo is the full package

Who's his coach?

I agree, however Kristian beat him on his 70.3 debut last year. Also, Kristian had an incredible year, and is just coming out of altitude training in Sierra Nevada. On top of that, Gustav and Casper are joining the fun.

I think it's going to be a great race, but I would like to see a Norwegian 1-2-3 like we saw @ Bermuda.

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They key is "had a great year". Maybe he peaked too soon? Sometimes racing isn't the best training

Having said that I think a norse podium in the desert would be cool!

I see it all the time, people hate on the ones on top because they aren't willing to take risks or put themselves out there. A spade is a spade

what does this even mean?

Calling it how I see it.

 
Didn't he pull off a similar feat a couple of years ago... or last year? I think we had a thread on the topic. He does seam to have some kind of miraculous ability to recover. No one beats Michi Weiss though... He's the king of "recovery".

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I wouldn't lump a certified doper in with Terenzo.
Terenzo has raced well on back-to-back (and three weekend's in a row) on multiple occasions.
No one mentions that he does NOT usually race at all in his build up to these race blocks. Then after three weeks, he stops racing.
Almost like he planned it that way.....

I've seen it happen work well with people I've worked with. (Back-to-back, or two week apart IM's)
When you plan it out, it isn't a crazy feet for someone with his racing and training background. IMO.

I don't know the guy. But I respect how he lays out and executes a race schedule.

I agree with this but throwing an Ironman in the middle of it is quite unbelievable.

Whoever said something about him cruising the Ironman last weekend, I highly doubt that. He didn’t catch Cam until the 30k mark. I’m sure he had to dig to catch him.

Also, those that are saying the 70.3s are just training days, that’s not true. They are racing these. It’s a race. They aren’t doing a brick and cruising the run. Why do people always say this? There’s a difference in doing a long supported training day and running 13 miles off the bike at a tempo pace, and racing a hard 13 miles off of a hard bike.

Who knows. But, I think it’s fair to ask questions.

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Oh, so he has new scientific training approach!? Never heard that one before.

So in your ironman builds you run a half marathon off the bike at half marathon race pace?

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He’s definitely a streaky racer. I don’t remember him throwing an Ironman in the mix in the middle. I thought it was a bunch of 70.3s.

This challenges the Weiss recovery ability in my mind. I think he had a few weeks between races.

I know I’m coming across as negative on all of these but I really am a huge Terenzo fan. I’m also a fan of the sport so I raise these questions.

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I think those are all fair points about Terenzo.
He certainly was racing a full effort. Seems silly to say otherwise.

You are correct that he usually would do 3x 70.3. Last year he did 70.3/Full/70.3 and pulled off good races in all three. I *believe* that was the first time he did it.

Personally, I don't think it's fair to say a race schedule like this is indicative of drug use. We don't know what he did before this build up and we do know he tends to take lots of time off racing after these race blocks.
Human's are capable of pretty amazing things.
Personally, i'd rather we focus energy like that on convicted dopers who are still racing. Not things we're curious about.

Weiss is a convicted drug cheat. So I'm going to assume he's still a doper because....once a doper, get the hell out of the sport and don't come back. Nothing to really consider when we see him racing. We already know he's a cheater.

FWIW, you don't come off as negative to me. Just curious.

Didn't Wurf race back to back IMs as a rookie? At one point he was entered for 3 IMs in 3 weekends around IM France.

70.3s would be a.mere warm up and warm down for him.

Yeah he won IM NZ, 70.3 Argentina 8 days later, and 70.3 Campeche 7 days later to start off 2018 - crazy how after the crash it seems forever ago

That said, he wasn't able to toe the line at Kona, so to think that 2 months later he's ready to do the same thing is a bit beyond belief. He also thrashed everyone at IM New Zealand so I imagine he was able to not pound out the run the way the IMWA run appeared to play out last week.

Personally doubt that he's a major factor. I doubt he'd be racing if he wasn't on the BE13. Realize other BE13 aren't racing, but for T it was probably why show up and not race when he's finally healthy

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Biggest difference is how fast you run, Cam was basically cruising his runs and shut off after half the run which spared his legs. Terrenzo had to go quite hard at WA, though he seemed to cruise in Sydney.
This weekend however will be hard, the Norwegian team will be going for a mid 1:0x run after a 2h bike. I think T gets the last spot on the podium, with Iden and Blu taking first and 2nd respectively.

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Well a quick IM with a half marathon jogged is still much more racing mileage than a quick 70.3 🙃

But you could be right, you could do swim bike duathlons all week but throw in a run rand it's a different recovery game. So then if running isnt your strength then back to backs would probably be harder

Yes but the pace is a lot slower, even if you are a very good runner you will be trashed after a sub 1:10 run.
During an IM you are basically running easy pace the first half, then recovery pace on the back half so really more like a long training run.
If you look at Terenzos runs the past couple weeks he first went 1:15 which is prob around his open MP. Now that is a tough workout on it’s own, let alone after a swim/bike, but definitely doable and recovery is quite quick. His marathon at WA was not super fast, but definitely not slow, so guessing his recovery from that will be a bit longer. At least for me I find I can run decently at 90% of T-pace quite soon after a big effort, but the faster stuff is usually lacking.

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Could be right if distances were accurate

Agreed.... :/

That's true.
Wurf runs slower than Terenzo. Which would reduce recovery time a bit. He does have a massive cycling background. Which helps in theory.
Also have to factor what cycling team he works with/is buddies with (Team Sky)

He's not guilt. But I don't know clean people that want to associate with that crew.

They mentioned on the stream that Terenzo pulled out of the race due to a mechanical.

The Norwegians are at the front.