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This was a first for me. we have a small race on st. John, about 80 athletes when you count relays, triathletes and aquathoners. i had a guy on a motorcycle show up thinking he was going to compete on his motorcycle. i tried to tell him this was a triathlon and he needed a bike. and he just kept saying this is his bike. after about 10 min.s, i had to call a bigger gun in to deal with this. motorcycle man seems to have a problem with females in charge. i had to call in a male to deal with him. He finally left, but came back to do the aquathon. i emailed this prick later, to ask if he seriously thought he could do the race on his motorcycle. and he said the flyer describing the race was not clear about the bike. i have been nice up to a point. (no name calling) trying to educate this guy about triathlon. stating insurance alone does not cover a motorcycle. the permit from the national park does not allow motorcycles in the races, and just general satety to the real bikers? after a few emails but a forth, he told me, i should look up the definition for a bike. Now i am mad. So, for next year, does anyone have any ideas on how i can word the flyer to make it clear what a bike is? Or same cleaver wording about no motorcycles. It was probably a mistake for me to engage this prick, but i was so shocked by his balls. and unfortunately, he placed 5th in the aquathon. This is a small island, and i am sure i will run into him.. i think he actually is a life guard for the park. i think i would rather drown then have this dick save me. thanks for any input on this strange issue.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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I think you have it - turn up on a motorbike and get the cleaver.

Seriously, don't waste your time or breath - most people grow out of the "but you saaaaiiid...." game when they're 6.



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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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"bicycle," perhaps?

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [--] [ In reply to ]
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Hard to believe he wasn't pulling your chain ( bicycle chain that is.... ) just use the word bicycle in any promotional
literature for the race
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be down there in a couple months. Is it still good to run on Great Cruz Bay Road described here: http://www.seestjohn.com/sports_running.html? Thanks.
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i'm gonna guess the boy had a hidden camera somewhere. nobody is that dumb... he was just messin with you :)


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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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Just make up some BS about the race being governed by USAT even if it isn't. That oughta keep shitheads like that guy out.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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Oh I would be sooooo much faster if I could use my motorcycle instead of my bicycle in a triathlon!!! Does your flyer indicate whether or not I can use roller blades on the run?
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [renorider] [ In reply to ]
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Under the Ontario Highway Traffic Act, "bicycle" includes power assisted vehicles like a moped.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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I wouldn't waste any time on him but if he continues just send him a copy of USAT rules and inform him that his "bike" doesn't meet the specifications set forth in the rule book.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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This give me an idea. Next race im going to but a treadmill on the back of a pickup. Ill run the whole race
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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For some reason, people who ride motorcycles are called bikers. I've never understood this. But, it's quite obvious that, upon entering a biker bar, that lycra is in low supply. And all of those leather clad peeps are talking about their bikes.






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When I first got serious about cycling I referred to someone as a biker and he said I am a cyclist, a biker rides a motorcycle

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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Bicycles only (no motorized vehicles allowed)
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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You could just use the USAT wording in your literature

All bicycles shall be propelled only by human force and human power. Other than pushing a bicycle, any propulsive action brought on by use of the hands is prohibited. Any violation of this section shall result in disqualification.

One of the local race organizers does something similar. Leave no doubt.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [jaretj] [ In reply to ]
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jaretj wrote:
I wouldn't waste any time on him but if he continues just send him a copy of USAT rules and inform him that his "bike" doesn't meet the specifications set forth in the rule book.

jaretj

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't St John's an "island" in CANADA? Regardless, the dumbdick probably wouldn't know the difference anyway.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [renorider] [ In reply to ]
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renorider wrote:
"bicycle," perhaps?
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [irontri] [ In reply to ]
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Since the OP doesn't have any personal info I have no way of knowing.

There is also a St John in Indianna, don't know what time zone though :)
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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Let me first say that the coolest tri I have been in to date was run by a women. She was so professional & personable with saavy management skills, strong but cool hand impressed the heck out of me. I came away thinking there is not enough females in charge - everywhere.


Somebody who shows up with a motorbike is a nut. So "sir either you move your bike now from the transition area or we will have it towed as soon as we can get a truck down here. This area is my responsibility and I will not have such absolute craziness and trespassing on this race area take place, it's unsafe and I will not tolerate it. There is no discussion here.MOVE IT NOW"

Guy doesn't move it, get the phone and put the plan into place to have him and the dumb-ass bike bounced. I don't even talk (negotiate) w/ nut cases, just start the cannons blazing.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [harshc] [ In reply to ]
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harshc wrote:
You could just use the USAT wording in your literature

All bicycles shall be propelled only by human force and human power. Other than pushing a bicycle, any propulsive action brought on by use of the hands is prohibited. Any violation of this section shall result in disqualification.

One of the local race organizers does something similar. Leave no doubt.

This!

Or, as others have said, reference USAT or if their is similar wording within your Provincial Triathlon Organization, reference that. Otherwise, said "dick" will be out with his fins for the swim and "running" with roller blades.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [goallout] [ In reply to ]
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Bicycles only (no motorized vehicles allowed - participants attempting to use motorcycles will be mocked mercilessly and then thrown into the lake.)
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
For some reason, people who ride motorcycles are called bikers. I've never understood this. But, it's quite obvious that, upon entering a biker bar, that lycra is in low supply. And all of those leather clad peeps are talking about their bikes.

Bikers generally do not look like cyclists. Not only in what the wear but generally in their size (width-wise). You don't burn a lot of calories twisting your right wrist.

But yes, I sometimes wonder which words to use as I'm both (although I haven't ridden the MC in a couple of years).

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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bikes that are sub 25lbs :)
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [irontri] [ In reply to ]
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irontri wrote:
jaretj wrote:
I wouldn't waste any time on him but if he continues just send him a copy of USAT rules and inform him that his "bike" doesn't meet the specifications set forth in the rule book.

jaretj


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't St John's an "island" in CANADA? Regardless, the dumbdick probably wouldn't know the difference anyway.

St. John's is the capital city of the island province of Newfoundland in Canada. Saint John (note the spelling of "Saint", it's never abbreviated) is a city in the province of New Brunswick, in Canada.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [Marlonius] [ In reply to ]
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My bad. I even looked it up on a map. I meant to put "on an island" as the OP alluded to, not "an island".

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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I wouldn't change a thing for next year. The world should not adapt to such idiots; it's their job to try to fit in.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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USAT Rule 5.11 covers this nicely.... :-)

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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Just mention its a USAT race and thet all USAT rules apply....problem solved.

I wouldn't dumb down my race material for 1 dumbass
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [irontri] [ In reply to ]
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Lord, I thought it was St. John USVI from the reference to "lifeguard in the park," with St. John being mostly a national park. This is a full blown mystery now.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [irontri] [ In reply to ]
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irontri wrote:
My bad. I even looked it up on a map. I meant to put "on an island" as the OP alluded to, not "an island".

No biggie, I just thought you might be slightly curious. Most Canadians besides those in the provinces concerned can't keep it straight. The people of Saint John gave Prince Charles a low "warning boo" when he claimed to be having a great time in St. John's during the Royal Visit in 1982 or 83 when I was a little kid.

I don't know why it's so critical that the "Saint" be spelled, but it was a hanging offence to screw that up.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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Come on, this is freakin' HILARIOUS? I mean, did he not see a whole bunch of bikes in transition? Was he going to prop his motorcycle up over the transition bars? Did he think that he was going to motor down the road alongside the cyclists? I'm not sure I even believe this whole scenario. It's like out of a Will Ferrell movie.

If he was a total dick to you, I can see how this became annoying, but holy smokes. Were others around when he started arguing about this? Because I'd think that the others would have just started rolling around laughing at this guy. How on EARTH do you actually conclude an athletic event includes a swim, then riding your motorcycle?
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [santino314] [ In reply to ]
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You should have allowed it, but told him he had to do the swim and the run in his motorcycle leathers.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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My grandpa used to say, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and annoys the pig". I think you have set the bar pretty high for patiernce in dealing with an idiot.
At our race we had an athlete run 2 laps of the run course and then complain that he was misdirected. He demanded that we cut his run time in half and award him first place in his division. I listened to him patiently and then explained that it is his responsibility to know the course, that he was the only person in the race who ran an extra lap even though the finish line is in clear view and less than 100 yards from where he started his second lap. When he demanded his money back I said, "This conversation is over" and went back to what I was doing.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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There had to be some punk'd type motive here. There just had to. But the fact that he did show up for the other race, puzzles me.

This does remind me of an idea I had for a funny photograph last year. Dewey Beach Delaware has a sprint tri at the same time as Ocean City MD has "bike week." They are not far apart. I was in town for the tri, and wanted to take my bike down to one of the bars in OC and pose on it with my lycra and helmet, parked between a bunch of harleys. Then caption it "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG." I also wanted to get a whole peloton together to surround a harley in traffic for the opposite effect.

I had neither the balls to do the first one, nor the organizational gumption to pull off the second. I'm going back next weekend. Anyone want to join me in an attempt this time?

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City of St John's is on Newfoundland, city of St John in New Bruswick.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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just tell him he's welcome to use it. The race is based human propulsion so he can't turn it on, but if that's his bike he's welcome to ride it.
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He placed 5th using the motorcycle????

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [Broken Leg Guy] [ In reply to ]
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Wait a second, who are we to discourage this guy from participating?

Maybe he was in a car accident and can no longer ride his bike but can still swim and run?

Maybe he doesn't have any motorcycle races in his area and this is the closest thing he has access to?

Maybe he really likes how laid back and chill triathlons are?

I know a lot of people that got into triathlons by first starting out riding their motorcycles, it's good for the sport to get people interested. Maybe next time he'll work up the courage to do a race without the motor?

Maybe he really likes the comradery since his wife and friends compete and he doesn't want to be left out?

I heard Challenge Penticton is going to offer a motorized division as part of their "include everyone possible policy." I know a few people that weren't going to sign up but decided to because they could use their motorcycle.

And who cares? There are already plenty of motorcycles on the course, what's one more? Are people really that insecure that this guy's involvement diminishes their success? When he goes by, just remember to look for the big M on his calf so you know he's not in your age group.


Is it really that big a deal that he gets the shirt and medal everyone else gets? Are you worried someone at the gym will see you in your finisher shirt and assume you used a motorcycle?


At least some of that was supposed to be in pink.
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timberdick wrote:
i should look up the definition for a bike. Now i am mad.

So...tell him that if he chooses to go by definitions, next year you'll let him use a wasps nest for the ride portion.

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [ZackC.] [ In reply to ]
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Just make up some BS about the race being governed by USAT even if it isn't. That oughta keep shitheads like that guy out.

This.
Then just let him sign up, take his money and DQ him if he starts to get on the motorcycle.
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noxious wrote:
Does your flyer indicate whether or not I can use roller blades on the run?



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"motorcycle man seems to have a problem with females in charge. i had to call in a male to deal with him."

You're a female and your user name is timberdick?

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i know. i have a last name that explains timberdick totally.
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Woodcock?

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i have not been able to check the internet. thank you so much for all your comments. it all made me laugh and calm down about the whole thing. and to clear up the st john issue, st john usvirgin islands is where the race was held. And i swear he was dead serious about riding his motorcycle. Most people getting ready for the race, had no idea what was going on. and we usually have a lot of beginners at the race, so they were all too nervous to know what was happening. the dumb ass is now complaining he did not get his t shirt. thanks again
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [Goosedog] [ In reply to ]
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you are right. i am referring to st john. us virgin islands.
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i am not sure how long that route is? You may have to do some lapping. have you been to this island before? It is small. i may thinking you are staying in that area? if you have a car, and this route doesn't work for you, i will be happy to give you more options when you come. and suggestions some trails or other routes.
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yes. are we related?
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Bikers generally do not look like cyclists. Not only in what the wear but generally in their size (width-wise). You don't burn a lot of calories twisting your right wrist.

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BCDon wrote:
Bikers generally do not look like cyclists. Not only in what the wear but generally in their size (width-wise). You don't burn a lot of calories twisting your right wrist.

Sure, the harley crew is generally fat but the racers are in really damned good shape. Hell, Dani Pedrosa is smaller than Joaquim Rodriguez.
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Sure, the harley crew is generally fat but the racers are in really damned good shape.

And watch out for them on the run!



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Maybe he should be allowed to compete. It does have two wheels. He just can't use the motor. Remove the plugs and he can push it with his feet like a kiddie car
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timberdick wrote:
So, for next year, does anyone have any ideas on how i can word the flyer to make it clear what a bike is? Or same cleaver wording about no motorcycles.


I think it'd be a shame if you had to start changing all the 'bikes' to 'bicycles' or 'pedal cycles' but maybe you could consider adding some small print.

"All admittance onto the race course is at the discretion of the race marshals. Absolutely no abuse of race marshals will be tolerated, offenders will be ejected from the race course without refund. All bikes must be roadworthy with good brakes and conform to USAT rules, riders must wear a CPSC certified helmet. Absolutely no competing on motorcycles - that'd be stupid"
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"Non-motorized" cycle or bicycle.

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My grandpa used to say, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and annoys the pig". I think you have set the bar pretty high for patiernce in dealing with an idiot.
At our race we had an athlete run 2 laps of the run course and then complain that he was misdirected. He demanded that we cut his run time in half and award him first place in his division. I listened to him patiently and then explained that it is his responsibility to know the course, that he was the only person in the race who ran an extra lap even though the finish line is in clear view and less than 100 yards from where he started his second lap. When he demanded his money back I said, "This conversation is over" and went back to what I was doing.
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thank you. i feel better now thinking of being a star in a will ferrell movie. you made me laugh. i wish other people had started laughing at this guy. the race is so small, i am shocked more people did not see what was going on. I swear he thought he was going to use his motorcycle. i like the will ferrell bit though. thanks
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [Twisty] [ In reply to ]
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thanks for you input. i like the fine print. now he is complaining he did not get his t shirt.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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i am definitely using the "don't waste my time". and i think i told him if he wanted to use his motorcycle, he could start his own event and do whatever the fuck he wanted. i am actually good about dealing with lots of characters here on St. john. I would say most of the people who live here are hiding from something, so there is an excess of strange and odd ball people. People who may have a hard time fitting in anywhere else. thanks for you input.
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timberdick wrote:
I would say most of the people who live here are hiding from something, so there is an excess of strange and odd ball people. People who may have a hard time fitting in anywhere else. thanks for you input.

oh yes. VERY familiar with that. Same issue here. Good luck!

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Ok timberdick, what am I missing? Your post clearly suggests you are a female. What's with you screen name? Just asking.

timberdick wrote:
This was a first for me. we have a small race on st. John, about 80 athletes when you count relays, triathletes and aquathoners. i had a guy on a motorcycle show up thinking he was going to compete on his motorcycle. i tried to tell him this was a triathlon and he needed a bike. and he just kept saying this is his bike. after about 10 min.s, i had to call a bigger gun in to deal with this. motorcycle man seems to have a problem with females in charge. i had to call in a male to deal with him. He finally left, but came back to do the aquathon. i emailed this prick later, to ask if he seriously thought he could do the race on his motorcycle. and he said the flyer describing the race was not clear about the bike. i have been nice up to a point. (no name calling) trying to educate this guy about triathlon. stating insurance alone does not cover a motorcycle. the permit from the national park does not allow motorcycles in the races, and just general satety to the real bikers? after a few emails but a forth, he told me, i should look up the definition for a bike. Now i am mad. So, for next year, does anyone have any ideas on how i can word the flyer to make it clear what a bike is? Or same cleaver wording about no motorcycles. It was probably a mistake for me to engage this prick, but i was so shocked by his balls. and unfortunately, he placed 5th in the aquathon. This is a small island, and i am sure i will run into him.. i think he actually is a life guard for the park. i think i would rather drown then have this dick save me. thanks for any input on this strange issue.
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Tell him he can use any bike he likes (except recumbants of course), but he's not allowed to turn on the motor.
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someone asked earlier in the thread about my username. It's not that i secretly want a dick or anything strange like that. my last name is the name of a bird, woodcock. and my best friends in Australia started calling me timberdick. i liked the name. i use it in my email. but sometimes when i am signing up for something i get kicked out, because the administrator's of whatever think i am porn or spam.. it could of makes me laugh.
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timberdick wrote:
thanks for you input. i like the fine print. now he is complaining he did not get his t shirt.


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timberdick wrote:
thanks for you input. i like the fine print. now he is complaining he did not get his t shirt.
or this one

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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [heliix] [ In reply to ]
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Basic tri rules say you must follow the rules of the road. So just make sure the bike course goes along a "no motorized vehicles" trail as most seem to now. He'd have to obey, along with all posted speed limits. Then just make sure that in order to "follow the course" he'd have to drive a really freakin long way around to meet back up with the cyclists. Then put in a few really tight u-turns and you're all set.


If he had been competing at IMoo last weekend he would have had to take John Nolen drive instead of the bike course that goes under then around the back of the Energy Centre. Eventually he'd have hit traffic and lost his advantage :D


IMC would have been pretty tough too, some of those sections on 3a were crazy congested.


There are a few sections in the TdF where the bikes can descend the mountain sections faster than the motorcycles.


I'm still not sure what the big deal is letting the poor guy be included, he just wanted his $150 t-shirt. It's not like he's taking someone's Kona slot.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [timberdick] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for explaining.

timberdick wrote:
someone asked earlier in the thread about my username. It's not that i secretly want a dick or anything strange like that. my last name is the name of a bird, woodcock. and my best friends in Australia started calling me timberdick. i liked the name. i use it in my email. but sometimes when i am signing up for something i get kicked out, because the administrator's of whatever think i am porn or spam.. it could of makes me laugh.
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Re: guy on a motorcycle shows up to compete on his motorcycle? [heliix] [ In reply to ]
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i don't know which one to pick? both shirts are great.. thanks for the laugh. very much appreciated.
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