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Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler)
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Much cooler than for the women's. We are 55mins away from an 11:30 start. Saw the GB boys rising through Hyde park on their way to transition earlier. There are huge expectations here for them. Walking out of our hotel the normal bbc news (not olympic specific) had a seems on them.

No rain which is great - a ton more people here than for women's but its also almost noon so easier. They warm up away from the standing crowds so haven't seen anyone yet.
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Did you see their helmets? Any comments? Is this what they normally wear? https://twitter.com/...oto/1/large?tw_p=twt

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [hectorguatemala] [ In reply to ]
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Large contingent of Javier Gomez fans next to us with animo javi jerseys. It's starting to get windy
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]
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just like the lack of venting we saw all over team sky's lids when the lead out train was in full effect in Paris.


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [alex jb] [ In reply to ]
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Right, but have the Brownlee boys been wearing these all season or is it new to them for the olympics? I don't follow ITU all that closely so wasn't sure.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]
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Good question but find pay attention since they came up quick. Will let you know post first lap.

The crowds are awesome here. Never been to an itu worlds (like hamburg) but everywhere you look it's a good 8deep.

About to announce the names
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [hectorguatemala] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the updates

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [riltri] [ In reply to ]
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Richard Varga hammering the swim!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [hectorguatemala] [ In reply to ]
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the pack is pretty strung out from first to last man

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Beanster] [ In reply to ]
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Damn it, for some reason it's not letting me access the temporary viewing. So keep the updates rolling in. Sighs......

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [riltri] [ In reply to ]
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Looks likea fast swim... And 3 distinct packs

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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Amazing that separation at this level

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Beanster] [ In reply to ]
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Pulling Javier and the brownlee boys into a break perhaps....

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [riltri] [ In reply to ]
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Really annoying how the feed with commentary has so many commercials. On Saturday, the women's coverage had no commercial breaks in the feed with commentary.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone see if Hayes is in that front group?

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Vasiliav... I smell a break

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Beanster] [ In reply to ]
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Beanster wrote:
Anyone see if Hayes is in that front group?

Won't need him. Apparently Vargas has been training with the Brownlees.



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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Simon crashed.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pete] [ In reply to ]
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Whitfield

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pete] [ In reply to ]
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Whitfield down in a crash. Will he be out??
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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wow... americans way back on the swim. didn't see where kemper came out at.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Sub 17 swim???????

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]
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Brad,
My AFN for the Tri is crap. You getting the same?

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pantelones] [ In reply to ]
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Whitfield down in a crash. Will he be out??


Good thing their shoes were on their pedals - look at all that time they saved.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Break already massive.... dream start for B,B,G
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Brownlee, Brownlee, Gomez, Fabian and Varga together at the front of the bike.


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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It was weird just replayed a bunch of times and he just stopped pedaling at the bottom of that bump/ramp. Looks like the Specialized shoes too...
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Richard Allbert] [ In reply to ]
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Simon is back up on the bike. Maybe going to be OK but that did not look good.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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B, B, G look to be drilling it.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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Not bad - I believe only :29 back. Manny was closer to two minutes I think.

I find it really annoying that they don't have the commentary...wonder why? Is that typical of their live streams?

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pantelones] [ In reply to ]
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Pantelones wrote:
Whitfield down in a crash. Will he be out??


age group bike handling skills from him. going over a bump in aerobars with his feet on top of his shoes and taking out another rider...
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pantelones] [ In reply to ]
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Simon crashed on that stupid speed bump as you exit T1. He went down along the curb and bounced off the steel fence. He didn't have his feet in his shoes yet so he's probably got road rash on them. He is now apparently officially out of the race. Major bummer.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Simon is out for sure. That is brutal. This is going to bite him in the ass after what he said about everything else this week.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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That's an insult to age-groupers.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [MI_Mumps] [ In reply to ]
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Are you on NBC?
BBC has commentary... and no commercials
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [datemple] [ In reply to ]
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I'm watching AFN Europe, saw the crash, saw Bolt's 200, and now I'm watching gas prices throughout the theatre...back now

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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fulla wrote:
Pantelones wrote:
Whitfield down in a crash. Will he be out??


age group bike handling skills from him. going over a bump in aerobars with his feet on top of his shoes and taking out another rider...

Pros going down because of a speed bump!!!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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PLEASE HELP im in Australia and these FUCKWITS on channel 9 are showing every sport but the triathalon any aussies on here feeling my anger???? The link earlier in the thread says it not availaible outside of the USA is there any other links for people in Australia
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Bone crusher] [ In reply to ]
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I am watching a Eurosport stream but they haven't shown the tri yet either.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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Online? I'm watching from the NBC website...maybe I'll poke around the "Beeb"

over a minute to the main pack...yikes!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Beanster] [ In reply to ]
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BBC Sports wrote:
1150:

TRIATHLON
Javier Varga of Slovakia jumps out of the water first after completing the swimming leg in 16:56 seconds. Spain's Javier Gomez is second with Jonny Brownlee fourth and his brother Alistair sixth. South Africa's Richard Murray is more than one minute back in 43rd.




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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [MI_Mumps] [ In reply to ]
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Chase pack sucks. WTF are these guys doing. They are handing the race to them.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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Another of ST fanboys favourites stacks because he could not get his feet in the shoes, expect tweet about how it is the fault of the Canadian coaches. Bloody shame how they don't coach these guys properly
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Swimmers out at 16:52

Most on road bike. 6 lap crit bike ride

Lead pack of with group of 20 one minute back. Draft legal race

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [datemple] [ In reply to ]
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The coverage is what it is, the quality of the video is good.

On another note am I seeing several people with aero helmets? Not talking about Brownlee bro's as I already addressed that earlier, but what about Simons helmet? Looked like a legit aero helmet from Specialized to me.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [riltri] [ In reply to ]
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riltri wrote:
fulla wrote:
Pantelones wrote:
Whitfield down in a crash. Will he be out??


age group bike handling skills from him. going over a bump in aerobars with his feet on top of his shoes and taking out another rider...

Pros going down because of a speed bump!!!

Karma from wearing an aero helmet on a group ride...

(I kid, that sux)



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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [SBR_bestgoodbad] [ In reply to ]
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bbc commentator: "hunter kemper, the only american in the field today in that chase group"

he must not know about huerta
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [MI_Mumps] [ In reply to ]
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Justus and other key players way back

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]
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He borrowed the helmet from Clara Hughes.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]
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The coverage is fine. It is the video quality from AFN that I was questioning. I can change to WWE on AFN Sports channel and the picture is perfect, but when I do the AFN Prime Atlantic Channel, the video quality is like trying to watch a scrambled movie.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [hectorguatemala] [ In reply to ]
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So glad that the GB domestique is doing such a great job for the Brownlees. lol
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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the leaders won't get away.
chase pack closing in... lead down to 9 seconds.

alistair yelling at the lead group but there's only so much 5 guys can do against 17
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [datemple] [ In reply to ]
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Chase pack is 13 seconds down

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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kalidus wrote:
bbc commentator: "hunter kemper, the only american in the field today in that chase group"

he must not know about huerta

Kemper? "Chase"? He must be watching a different race...



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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kennyDalglish] [ In reply to ]
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Another of ST fanboys favourites stacks because he could not get his feet in the shoes, expect tweet about how it is the fault of the Canadian coaches. Bloody shame how they don't coach these guys properly

I replayed it a bunch and to me it looked like he was in his shoes but not latched yet. The heel even looked like it was up on those new red S-works tri shoes. I just think he wasn't expecting the speed bump to be so jarring as he was in his aero bars at the time too. It jostled him, he stopped pedaling and the guy behind hit his wheel and then he just lost control.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pete] [ In reply to ]
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Nothing new on race day?

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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hayes looks like he is wearing one of those kask aero helmets.

the helmets the brownlees are wearing are frigging ugly.

anyone know what happened to the guy that whitfield took out? who was it?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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CONTACT. are the brownlees going to break off by themselves now?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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and they've been caught!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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BBC Sports wrote:

TRIATHLON
The lead in this triathlon is a bit of a movable feast at the moment, but the good news for GB fans is that both the Brownlees are right up there as they complete lap after lap of Hyde Park. Gavin Noble of Ireland is at the head of the chasing pack, which is only nine seconds behind.


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [masterslacker] [ In reply to ]
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packs have come together


Brownlee Jr has to serve a 15 second penalty for mounting early

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kennyDalglish] [ In reply to ]
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kennyDalglish wrote:
Another of ST fanboys favourites stacks because he could not get his feet in the shoes, expect tweet about how it is the fault of the Canadian coaches. Bloody shame how they don't coach these guys properly

And your coaches were so much better Mr Dalglish when you won your gold and silver tri medals at the Olympics... [/pink]
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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15 second penalty for J Brownlee
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [datemple] [ In reply to ]
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chase group will have them in a few minutes.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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The Brownlees are so fun to watch. Seriously.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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alistair telling stuart hayes to go for it
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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kalidus wrote:
bbc commentator: "hunter kemper, the only american in the field today in that chase group"

he must not know about huerta

Huerta was well back - maybe in the main pack, but not the chase with Hunter.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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Doubt it. I've not got the live feed up, but if it's the main group now, the only way they get away is crash aided break from the pack. No way the group lets them get clear now.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [arctical] [ In reply to ]
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Aw so already singing about glory days when your boy can't cut it. Sydney was a long time ago, but heck focus on that and not todays race
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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LOL, and the group will let him go. A guy that probaly has trained pretty much exclusively for the bike and swim...yeah he's no threat to go on a break to the big boys.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BDoughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Canadian soccer team screwed by the ref... Canadian Simon Whitfield screwed by a speed bump... not good being a Canadian lately :(

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [fulla] [ In reply to ]
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Stuart Hayes at the front of the bike. He's looking behind him every 15 seconds. Any guesses as what his strategy is?


Leo Chacon (Costa Rica) couldn't avoid going over Whitfield when he went down. I haven't seen either of them since the crash

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Hook] [ In reply to ]
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Well it looks like Hayes is there now working for the Brownlee's. So maybe their domestique will work out for them. Those chase packs need to pick it up.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [masterslacker] [ In reply to ]
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Brown lee assessed 15 sec. Penalty for early bike mount.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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My guess is that the brownlees want Hayes to string out the pace to soften the legs up of everyone else. However, (and I'm not watching the feed, mind you), it doesnt really make sense for the lead pack to follow his attacks (if he is indeed trying to attack).

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pindurski] [ In reply to ]
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Canadian soccer team screwed by the ref... Canadian Simon Whitfield screwed by a speed bump... not good being a Canadian lately :(

Yeah I went back and looked a bunch more and it was his left foot that wasn't fully in his shoe so the bump sent that foot off and then he hit one of the weird barrier legs in the road because he was so close to it plus getting his rear wheel hit just caused him to go into the barriers.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kennyDalglish] [ In reply to ]
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kennyDalglish wrote:
Aw so already singing about glory days when your boy can't cut it. Sydney was a long time ago, but heck focus on that and not todays race

I'm just suggesting that Simon is just a little bit better than you as a triathlete. Or all of the guys in the race in London going on right now. (Unless you're typing this from your bike in the park right now).
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pindurski] [ In reply to ]
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Chacon screwed by another athlete's fuck-up.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like an idiot looking over his shoulder every 2 seconds

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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Very interesting! When does he have to serve it? Do you make a big push for separation right before you serve, then use the 15 seconds to rest? Or would that sprint take too much out?


Mr ITU wrote:
packs have come together


Brownlee Jr has to serve a 15 second penalty for mounting early

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [eganski] [ In reply to ]
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Did it on purpose cause he was under trained

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [SBR_bestgoodbad] [ In reply to ]
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Online broadcasting by the Dutch NOS might be available to other countries as well. The link is below.
http://nos.nl/os2012/play/13/

I was looking for some radio covering of the race. Anyone listening to a tri-minded radio station?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [MI_Mumps] [ In reply to ]
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You can serve it at any moment. My guess is he'll do it on the last lap of the run.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BDoughtie] [ In reply to ]
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well he isn't just going to ride off by himself... he'll have two Brownlees attached to his wheel.

Something I haven't heard mentioned yet... Silva made the lead pack! He could certainly throw a wrench in things for the favorites.
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BDoughtie wrote:
You can serve it at any moment. My guess is he'll do it on the last lap of the run.

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And you think the rest of the 20 guys will just let them go?

Like I said, they arent getting away unless it's crash aided at this point.

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22 athletes in front group +1:15 ahead of chase group, more than halfway through the bike- so they'll probably stay away

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run is going to be interesting.
from what I hear, the french, russians and kemper didn't do any work in the chase group. they're going to have pretty fresh legs.
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and Hunter Kemper with the 22 in the front

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I do not want the Brownlee's to win. I want there to be a spoiler in the race. I hate that there was talk of them crossing the line together in first place and sharing the win. Who is to say that they were going to win. I will take Gomez for the win.
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WTF has that got to dow with it, he blew any chance he had making a newbie mistake that this place hangs amateurs for making every week. Yes Simon is a better triathlete than me, which has bugger all to do with the fact that he blew his last two years because he did not pay attention to what he was doing.

You guys even have a post saying he got taken out by the speedhump. Fark me I only go there every two years and I know the speed humps are there
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I am liking Hunter Kemper's position right now. Wouldn't be surprised to see him top 5 or top 3, but not get into that spot until the very end of the run.
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I do not want the Brownlee's to win. I want there to be a spoiler in the race. I hate that there was talk of them crossing the line together in first place and sharing the win. Who is to say that they were going to win. I will take Gomez for the win.



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I love the brownlees having yellow shoes and fugly helments. Makes those lil monsters easy to spot.
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Vasiliev has been jumpy on the front of the bike but nothing has been too threatening.

If no one is able to get away very soon then the group is likely to settle in on the last lap before the run


And Chacon is back in the race

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I am OK with any situation other than those two at the finish line together in first and second place.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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Gomez finally moved up towards the front. If somethings going to happen, it'll be happen soon.
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Jonny Brownlee has a 15sec penalty from T1. When is the best time to take? Start of the run?
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Maybe if I take some more medication this bike leg with become more interesting..

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The commentary is driving me nuts - "Tri - ath - UH - lon"

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I love the brownlees having yellow shoes and fugly helments. Makes those lil monsters easy to spot.

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Some names in the front group

Brownlee, Brownelee Jr, Gomez, Vidal, Hauss, Kemper, Rieder, Brukhakov, Vasiliev, Silva, Noble, Fabian, Tayama, Hayes, Frodeno, Gemmell, Petzold,


Hayes still out front- 2 laps to go

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The commentary is driving me nuts - "Tri - ath - UH - lon"

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I think that the race is Alistairs to lose, but with relatively tired legs and a 15s penalty coming, I think Johnny is in trouble, might get pushed off the stand altogether. Bruhankov as it is runs 15-20s behind him on equal legs, Sven 5-10s.
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I am so tired of hearing that Simon is out of the race. YES we known that he could not handle a speedbump and crashed. You can say all you want about his training because at the end it was a simple speedbump that he did not prepare for.
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BernardDogs wrote:
http://www.tvonline-live.com/...ames-august-07-2012/

That's working for me.

Awesome! Thanks.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [RichA] [ In reply to ]
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I'd say last lap. The way a lot of races turn out, a 15" penalty at the end won't even effect his finish. He should start as he always does and hope he gets away like he always does (w/ Ali).

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Canadian soccer team screwed by the ref... Canadian Simon Whitfield screwed by a speed bump... not good being a Canadian lately :(


Yeah I went back and looked a bunch more and it was his left foot that wasn't fully in his shoe so the bump sent that foot off and then he hit one of the weird barrier legs in the road because he was so close to it plus getting his rear wheel hit just caused him to go into the barriers.

That really was a heart breaking span of 18 hours for Canada with the women's loss and Simon's crash. I did not expect Simon to medal (never counted him out....), but really sad to see a champion like that not go out in style.

Kyle Jones now in chase pack 70 seconds down...also Richard Murray from South Africa in that group. Stuart Hayes is pulling the main Brownlee group....he's got a stubby aero helmet on.

That 15 second penalty for Johnny Brownlee is going to hurt him!
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Record10Carbon wrote:
The commentary is driving me nuts - "Tri - ath - UH - lon"

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We have Welchy commentating down here,but they keep crossing ove to the 200m qualifiers..They showed all the the womens tri and that is just not fair!!!!.....Bloody sexist!!

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Pete wrote:
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Record10Carbon wrote:
The commentary is driving me nuts - "Tri - ath - UH - lon"


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Unfair, or just realistic?

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alistair breaks?!
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WTF has that got to dow with it, he blew any chance he had making a newbie mistake that this place hangs amateurs for making every week. Yes Simon is a better triathlete than me, which has bugger all to do with the fact that he blew his last two years because he did not pay attention to what he was doing.

You guys even have a post saying he got taken out by the speedhump. Fark me I only go there every two years and I know the speed humps are there

Alistair Brownless just took off from the front....solo.

As for SQW's mistake, it was heartbreaking as a Canadian, but if anyone posted a video of an age grouper on ST doing that, (if it was Kenny or I), we'd get crucified....Really is too bad....even the top guys make mistakes!
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Macca was dead right a month or so ago when he said the whole ITU field is afraid of the Brownlees and just follows along with what they do in the races......I'd much prefer to go down in flames trying to destroy the Poms than to ride like limp flowers waiting for divine intervention..

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Wasting energy like an idiot I would say. Just stay at the front and do not waste energy but I want his to finish second or third or off the podium so keep going off the front.
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Macca was dead right a month or so ago when he said the whole ITU field is afraid of the Brownlees and just follows along with what they do in the races......I'd much prefer to go down in flames trying to destroy the Poms than to ride like limp flowers waiting for divine intervention..

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....I love your colour commentary...you and Macca say it as it is! Well said!

Chase pack 70 seconds back. Hunter from teh US has been sitting quietly in the lead group doing nothing.

With Whitfield, out, I'd love to see Gomez medal. He and Hunter deserve one!
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At least Gomez is playing it smart. In the lead pack sitting back a bit conserving energy.
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See, this is what happens when we stop using pink font & emoticons



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...I'd much prefer to go down in flames trying to destroy the Poms than to ride like limp flowers waiting for divine intervention.

Great. Just give my whole race strategy away to all my AG competitors, why don't you? And what exactly is wrong with limp flowers? They still smell pretty!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Fair enough, but on a course like this, do you really think it can stick? The Brownlees push the pace enough already, that to think you can actually go off the front of that and make it stick, to me is complete idiocy. But I guess atleast you can say you "tried", so I guess it wouldnt really matter when you finish in 17th either way really.

But I guess it would make viewing of races more interesting and we wouldnt always have ST hating on it so much.

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Alistair Brownlee is on the charge and the crowd are loving it. He's caught quite quickly by the pack but he may well just be trying to sap the legs of his biggest rivals.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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The commentary is driving me nuts - "Tri - ath - UH - lon"

I was watching NBC Sports at home and decided to stream online with no commentary for exactly that reason... That and the "she didn't even put her shoes on in transition that will cost her precious seconds on the bike" gem from the women's race...

I'm sure we'll hear about the De-cath-UH-lon later this week...
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Fair enough, but on a course like this, do you really think it can stick? The Brownlees push the pace enough already, that to think you can actually go off the front of that and make it stick, to me is complete idiocy. But I guess atleast you can say you "tried", so I guess it wouldnt really matter when you finish in 17th either way really.

But I guess it would make viewing of races more interesting and we wouldnt always have ST hating on it so much.

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The thing is if one goes then the rest may follow,when that happens accident happen and you just never know..Right now it is a bit of a procession and it is playing into the Poms hands..I do agree though that Gomez might figure more if the brothers do too much work.

I would push the pace and try to force a mistake on this twisty course.

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Bike cam on the Brazil bike...too bad he's not in the lead pack.
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In more important news, no return of the white suit for Frodo & ze Germans



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No, it won't stick, but that's how they race all the time. :)
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Same with Kemper...moving into top 5 in the lead pack coming into T2.
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Ugh...that was painful to watch that Hunter T2
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What kind of helmet was Simon wearing? Looked like an aerohelmet - are they even allowed to wear those?
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When will Brownlee Jr take his 15 secs. Tactically must be better to take & chase?
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Most likely on the last lap once everything has settled out and the select group will usually have formed and the medal contenders are alone.

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The lead group are on their last lap of Hyde Park now and it is still very bunched at the front of the course. Russian dangerman Alexander Bryukhankov is right up there on the shoulders of the Brownlees. The chasing pack is about one minute behind.

And with that, I've got to get back to work. AARRGGHH!!!!

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You would think so, but then again, I guess JB knows better :)

Man, that pace out of T2 was unreal...
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Definitely an aero helmet.

Brownlees already creating a gap.....but when is the penalty served...Bevan Docherty just behind but already a 50m gap behind Brownlees and Gomez.
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Everyone is talking about Gomez getting the silver because of the 15 second penalty on jr. I say bullshit he is getting the GOLD.
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Hopefully (I'm GB) JB has a 15s gap by the last lap for bronze :)
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Definitely an aero helmet.

Brownlees already creating a gap.....but when is the penalty served...Bevan Docherty just behind but already a 50m gap behind Brownlees and Gomez.

Perhaps I'm too much of a newby but how come other athletes aren't wearing the long tailed helmets?
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familiarly its Brownlee, Brownlee Gomez way in front after 1k

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when does he serve the penalty
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They said that he borrowed Clara Hughes helmet for the race.
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In fact JB nearly has 15s already
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Frodo also in the chase group! I wish they flashed kilometer splits....these guys must be running 2:40 pace!
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I hate Barry's comments that Simon WOULD have been running with Gomez.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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What a insane pace. Balls out racing.

Home field advantage. Having so many people screaming for you must be great.
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Can serve pen on any lap (in a box).
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How is it possible that Hunter K had a slow transition? Did he just blow his race?
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Come on GOMEZ.
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Oh shit they are showing Aussie womens javelin now!They would be doing more for their country if they were tossing those things around the triathlon run course right about now!

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AB's taken water twice...sissy boy



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Gap is at 17 seconds!

JB could very well medal
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How is it possible that Hunter K had a slow transition? Did he just blow his race?

did he ever really have a shot? going to be really hard for him to run with them. he's put himself in a good position though.



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The Brownlee/Gomez pack appears to already have a 12-second gap on 4th place, based on my counting the time between landmarks on a wide shot. I think I'm a few minutes behind though, due to streaming.

I'm enjoying the TSN commentators imaginary race with Whitfield: "Oh, he would've been in this first pack" "He would be running in 4th or 5th"

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Agreed....he should not shoulda-coulda-woulda.

Frodo is gapped in the chase.
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According to my screen - right now, the most watched on-line "sport" - horse dancing. (dressage)

I have to bet that it is every liberal idiot, sitting in the unemployment line, watching live on their govt paid cell phones - waiting to see Mrs. Mitt.

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Wondered the same

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Looks like Kemper is between 15-20th place..... but remember how well he back-ended his 10k in San Diego. Maybe can move up to top 10

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Hunter and Docherty way back now. Frodo in 7th.
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AB's taken water twice...sissy boy
No shit. He needs to quit drinking and starting running. Whata panzypondie.
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Gomez, AB then Frodo on the podium.
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According to my screen - right now, the most watched on-line "sport" - horse dancing. (dressage)

I have to bet that it is every liberal idiot, sitting in the unemployment line, watching live on their govt paid cell phones - waiting to see Mrs. Mitt.

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I wonder what the actual net loss of the 15-second penalty will be - he gets 15 seconds of rest, so he'll probably run the remainder of the run at a higher pace than he otherwise would have been able to. 9 seconds? 10?

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After his heart break in Beijing, finishing 4th....what if Gomez can pull out a gold....I know this is wishful thinking, but there is 15 seconds in his favour!
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Gomez, AB and JB.

JB will start off after his penalty with the French and Bruhenchov. He can still out run them.. esp with 15 seconds rest.
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did anyone get their 5k split?

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After his heart break in Beijing, finishing 4th....what if Gomez can pull out a gold....I know this is wishful thinking, but there is 15 seconds in his favour!

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Haus and Vidal fom France 4th and 5th 27 seconds back at 5k.

What's going on....one of the Brownlee's falls off the back!!!! Insane
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wow.... JB got dropped....
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JB is falling off. BYE BYE JB
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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JB is now 8 seconds back....Gomez with AB....Gomez could win gold???
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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do you guys watch ITU cause AB basically always drops JB around halfway
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kalidus] [ In reply to ]
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To entertain yourself during lap 3, go to http://www.google.com and play the logo hurdling game and try to beat 11.2.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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JB has exploded....AB has gapped Gomez by 10 m!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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AB is going to crash and burn.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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AB and Gomez it is. who will take bronze?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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No. Alistair gapping Gomez as well.... he's a BEAST.
This isn't even the sprint finish. It should be the other way around... Gomez should be trying to gap Alistair.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Mr ITU] [ In reply to ]
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14:16 according to the time splits nbc sports has online (14:14 for Gomez).

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like JB is falling off, now is the time to serve the penalty get a little blow and hit it hard.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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HANG IN THERE GOMEZ!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Haus and Vidal look good. They should be able to close on JB given his penalty
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [xtremrun] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, JB needs to either take that penalty now or risk being caught by the chase group AND serving the penalty, which would take the medal out of reach.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Yes I do agree that the French look good and it they podium that will still the English a bit.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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He is



blood, sweat...and big gears

I hated every minute of training, but I said, ''Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.''
- Muhammad Ali
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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JB took penalty and he's still in 3rd!!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Hey that was 14 seconds JB
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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Served the penalty without getting caught!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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JB served his penalty and the French as 12 seconds back

AB 21.34
Gomez 21.37

at 7.5k
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Ah Crap

AB, JG, JB
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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Smart man.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Ken, what are they saying on TV in Japan?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [xtremrun] [ In reply to ]
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That 15 seconds does seem to have given JB a second wind.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Good on AB for all of the pressure to be number one and being able to do it.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the split.

That is incredible.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Hey Ken, what are they saying on TV in Japan?

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [xtremrun] [ In reply to ]
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shit, what did I miss- what was the penalty?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [bltri] [ In reply to ]
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Mounting the bike too early.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Barry S SHUT THE FUCK UP. Simon crashed and is out you dumb ass.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Richard Allbert] [ In reply to ]
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Hyde Park is packed....AB doing a victory lap now.....50m on Gomez. Good for Gomez...he worked for this for 4 years after losing to Frodo, Whitfield and Docherty. The guy deserves where he is now. 11 seconds behind AB for Gomez.
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Great commentary.....

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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To deliver the goods with all the pressure of being the favorite from the host country... that is incredible.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Richard Allbert] [ In reply to ]
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Gomez just gave up with that glance backwards. Gomez races for silver.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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Absolutely. I kept thinking younger bro was going to get him for over a year. Fantastic race with all the pressure, just amazing. Well done.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, I'm watching on my PC in a cafe with no sound.

devashish_paul wrote:
Hey Ken, what are they saying on TV in Japan?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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Chapeau to Gomez on the silver....beautifully executed gutsy race! Nice work by Haus to take 4th!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Are the Brownlees not liked?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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So all you need for a gold is a 1:46 oly? zooooooooiiiiiiiiiiikes
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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29.07 for al brownlee for the run apparently.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [RichA] [ In reply to ]
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Are you kidding....we love the Brownlees....I just wanted to see Gomez get redemption from the 4th at Beijing!

Brent and Kyle 25th and 27th.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [thndrmatt] [ In reply to ]
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With a 29:07 run, that's all...



blood, sweat...and big gears

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [thndrmatt] [ In reply to ]
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Good god -- that 10K was almost sub-29. If AB wasn't celebrating down the stretch it would have been.

Hard not to love the way the Brownlees race. I wish the bike course was hillier so that we could see these boys go at it on the bike.

Awesome stuff.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [RichA] [ In reply to ]
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RichA wrote:
Are the Brownlees not liked?

They're loved in England!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Pete] [ In reply to ]
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so sub 29.... if he didnt slow down at the finish.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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Not only that, Simon was barely relevant, regardless of how much Canadians wanted to believe otherwise.

On a separate note, as much as I am an SW fan, he looks pretty silly blasting people for not doing their job, when he couldn't do his own job today. I note this only as a cautionary tale for others who feel the need to take private issues public.




*edited for typos
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Pete wrote:
With a 29:07 run, that's all...

29.07 and he walked the last 50m!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Alright time to go to work. DAMN. I sure hope that Triathlon Canada holds some bike handling skills for the next olympic cycle because that was a crash in the women's and men's race.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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29:07 with a little stroll at the end.... Not even fair
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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I could not agree more with you. Just keep your mouth shut and get your job done.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [DieTryin'] [ In reply to ]
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DieTryin' wrote:
RichA wrote:
Are the Brownlees not liked?


They're loved in England!

I'm English!

It was more the sense that the forum were hoping for a Gomez win and congratulating a Gomez Silver.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [RichA] [ In reply to ]
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amazing but not entirely unexpected result....AB looked so strong.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [RichA] [ In reply to ]
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That's ok then :oD
Fantastic crowd turn out.
Pity JB had to take a penalty.....
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Okay now that the geekfest is over with,bring on the rhythmic gymnastics!!!!


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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The Guardian wrote:
Not only that, Simon was barely relevant, regardless of how much Canadians wanted to believe otherwise.


On a separate note, as much as I am an SW fan, he looks pretty silly blasting people for not doing their job, when he couldn't do his own job today. I note this only as a cautionary tale for others who feel they need to take private issues public.


He crashed... it's not like he faded out. It happens.

He doesn't look silly at all, he said what needed to be said. And you sat there at your computer eating it up. You probably complain about athletes that only talk in cliches yet at the same time you blast Simon for telling it like it is. You can't have it both ways.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Gomez knew he was running for silver.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [zamm0] [ In reply to ]
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Lance would have won.
Discuss.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [zamm0] [ In reply to ]
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Not the most exciting race but this reflects well on the preparation and consistency of the top performers - Brownlees and Gomez and some of the "old" guard - e.g., Frodeno, Docherty, etc. Given all that can go wrong in the lead up to the Games and on the day itself (ahem, Mr. Whitfield...) they all performed well on the day it counted.

Would France have won the team competition? 3 guys in top 10-15!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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Simon 2016?

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [zamm0] [ In reply to ]
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zamm0 wrote:
Gomez knew he was running for silver.

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And a very good silver it is too....Good on him,very well deserved.


Stooopid Kiwis beat the Aussies again...:-(

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Philosoraptor] [ In reply to ]
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Lance would have lost to AB by over 5 minutes. [/discussion.]

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KS] [ In reply to ]
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By the way, awesome breast leg by Kitajima in the 4x100 medley relay. He delivered Japan to the front for his teammates...I am sure he was taking a lot of heat in the Japan media over his individual races. I was hoping it would be a Canada Japan final for the women's soccer, but good luck to your team vs. USA (or are you going for USA???)
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Nope. Simon is moving to 70.3 and possibly IM next year.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, be nice, Canada won a medal in rythmic gymnastics (1984), which is more than they bloody did today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L22L6yK6nMg

Of course the next medal should be CTV's coverage of the race. Glad it's going to CBC next time.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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There is nothing in the last two years that indicated SW was a medal threat, yet the media, and this board kept portraying him as one. The is called fanboyism, or a lack of knowledge about the sport. If you don't think he has been fading away then you haven't been watching the evolution of ITU lately. That said he has been a huge inspiration and seems like a great guy, so I understand our desire to see him do well. I am fan too.

As for eating up his comments, I did nothing of the sort. I don't believe in that sort of public shaming or twitter wars about things that are private matters. I thought it made SW look petty and impulsive.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [thndrmatt] [ In reply to ]
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thndrmatt wrote:
So all you need for a gold is a 1:46 oly? zooooooooiiiiiiiiiiikes

With a 43k bike.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Tweet from Simon Usborne:

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Alistair Brownlee ran that 10k just 1m23s slower than did Mo Farah on a track

Says it all.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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lucky for him JB had a penalty
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Richard Allbert] [ In reply to ]
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W. O. W.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Another one I saw ( I forget who) said after the 3rd Lap of the Run

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It's either Gold or Hospital
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Ultra-tri-guy wrote:
Okay now that the geekfest is over with,bring on the rhythmic gymnastics!!!!


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Richard Allbert] [ In reply to ]
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Richard Allbert wrote:
Another one I saw ( I forget who) said after the 3rd Lap of the Run

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It's either Gold or Hospital

Or both!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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He did nothing leading up to Beijing as well and he won a silver there so his performance in the lead up to the games is irrelevant.

Not fan boy-ing, I just think that he knows how to prepare for big events. Shit crash (some bad riding on his part) knocked him out. He didn't fade away.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [DieTryin'] [ In reply to ]
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Lol, that's a point.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [zamm0] [ In reply to ]
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zamm0 wrote:
lucky for him JB had a penalty

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Richard Allbert] [ In reply to ]
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Infact, news just said that the ceremony is delayed as JB is being treated by medics. Hope he's ok.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [kennyDalglish] [ In reply to ]
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Aw so already singing about glory days when your boy can't cut it. Sydney was a long time ago, but heck focus on that and not todays race


Huh?


You need to lighten up a bit.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Richard Allbert] [ In reply to ]
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Richard Allbert wrote:
Lol, that's a point.

JB has been taken off in a wheelchair!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [DieTryin'] [ In reply to ]
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@lukemckenzie wrote:
Perspective - You know the treadmill at the gym that goes 20km/hr max? Jump on that for 30 minutes & you're still 53 seconds behind Brownlee!

Zowie.

Later!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [DieTryin'] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, as posted above, hope he's ok.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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i'm only winding you up. there's only one medal.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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Fair enough. That is what was very frustrating about the crash - we will never know if they hype was warranted. As a Canadian, it would have been nice if it was.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone know where I can find the official splits? I can't find them.

Do you think the swim and run were accurately measured ?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, Kitajima was gracious in defeat and is still a hero here. He is generally credited with ushering in a whole generation of strong swimmers - he showed that a skinny little Japanese dude can compete at the international level, and a lot of guys took that seriously and followed in his footsteps, ultimately resulting in the 11 medals this year. The medley relay was a fitting end to an awesome Olympic career, pulling his team to the silver.

The Canadian women were THAT close to making it to the finals - they showed class and were on the short end of some questionable calls. Of course I'm pulling for Japan in the finals! Should be a good one - although Japan haven't been playing well the last two games.

devashish_paul wrote:
By the way, awesome breast leg by Kitajima in the 4x100 medley relay. He delivered Japan to the front for his teammates...I am sure he was taking a lot of heat in the Japan media over his individual races. I was hoping it would be a Canada Japan final for the women's soccer, but good luck to your team vs. USA (or are you going for USA???)
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [BMANX] [ In reply to ]
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BMANX wrote:
Simon is out for sure. That is brutal. This is going to bite him in the ass after what he said about everything else this week.

Karma is a bitch
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zamm0 wrote:
i'm only winding you up. there's only one medal.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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I was under the impression that Australia was boycotting this Olympic Games.
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I was under the impression that Australia was boycotting this Olympic Games.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [jaelinfunk] [ In reply to ]
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Not only that, Simon was barely relevant, regardless of how much Canadians wanted to believe otherwise.


I'm Canadian and don't think Simon was relevant.

Some of you guys should stop generalizing and just celebrate the race and the accomplishment of Brownlee.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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As exciting as the Women's race was, the men's race was just as much due to the domination. AB really laid it down. He was actually on the front, for portions of the bike, and then still had all of that for the run. The kid is a stud.

Great job by Gomez to just run his race and let it come to him.

Also impressive to see JB serve the penalty, get out of the box, still in 3rd, then extend the gap again.

Wish Kemper could have done more, but he gave it what he had. A bit of a poor T2 but top 15 in his 4th Olympics...nice job Hunter.


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Jackb] [ In reply to ]
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I agree with you here. That being said, there was no way that Simon was going to run the times that the top three guys ran. He would have been sprinting for 8th.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KleineGeneraal] [ In reply to ]
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The swim was absolutely accurate.. or long. To me, that looked like the fastest ITU swim ever... Javier Gomez, a 15:35 SCM miler, was getting gapped by Varga in a wetsuit, and everyone else behind him was starting to as well. Sick fast.

The run... well, I assume it was the same as always for the London race. I can't remember right now, is that one a tenth short?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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SILVER, Australian for winning.....


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [RhymeAndReason] [ In reply to ]
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Brownlee's race was a thing of beauty in a clinical, thoroughly dominating, precision sense. And anyone who thinks the result would have been much different under a non-drafting format was not paying attention. But now that we've gotten that out of our systems, can the rest of the world please step up to big boy britches? Gomez was the only one with a hope and he clearly needed an intervention to even sniff a chance at the top of the podium.
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As a stickler for accuracy I guess I should have said "Canadians in general, but not necessarily all Canadians". So feel free to reread my post with this modifier in place.

As for your second point, I don't see why we should not talk about other aspects of the race just because the winners ran a great one.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [The Guardian] [ In reply to ]
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Also Canadian, also didn't think Whitfield was going to medal. He was yet another victim of the Canadian media choosing someone based on either very old or not-very-relevant results and crowning them a medal hope. See also: Brent Hayden*, Clara Hughes, Rick Say, and probably tons of other athletes in sports I don't follow. It's kind of sad reading the comments section on the globe and mail to see the number of people that actually thought he was a gold medal hope.

*Yes, he finally got a medal these games. But they were super-hyping him in 04 and 08 as well despite an extreme outside shot at the podium.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [AHare] [ In reply to ]
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Could not agree more. We over-hype these athletes and as I said earlier there was not way that Simon was going to be running with the top three. I just wanted him to do well in the race and go out with having done the first 4 Olympic Triathlons. Crashing out sucks when it is your last kick at the can but if you cannot handle a speed bump how are you going to handle a 29 min 10 KM
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KleineGeneraal wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the official splits? I can't find them.

Do you think the swim and run were accurately measured ?

Go to the NBC site here and it lists official times. If you click on the "+" sign, it breaks down the splits for you. Here's AB's splits:

Swim: 17:04
T1: 0:39
Bike: 59:08
T2: 0:27
Run: 29:07
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In order to restore some sort of national pride we are about to launch a final attack at the medal count to leapfrog over those damned sheep-shagging Kiwis........If we don't I'm moving back to Hong Kong to reclaim the citizenship of my birth country.


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [hectorguatemala] [ In reply to ]
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Well, I gotta give props to AB. When he announced his Achillesminjury, I was certain that there was no chance he could find his form in time. Ooops...

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [CarolinaLaw] [ In reply to ]
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CarolinaLaw wrote:
KleineGeneraal wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the official splits? I can't find them.

Do you think the swim and run were accurately measured ?


Go to the NBC site here and it lists official times. If you click on the "+" sign, it breaks down the splits for you. Here's AB's splits:

Swim: 17:04
T1: 0:39
Bike: 59:08
T2: 0:27
Run: 29:07

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [CarolinaLaw] [ In reply to ]
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That is just sick fast. Just wait till he is the first three time gold medalist in the triathlon then moves up to longer distances.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [AHare] [ In reply to ]
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Also Canadian, also didn't think Whitfield was going to medal. He was yet another victim of the Canadian media choosing someone based on either very old or not-very-relevant results and crowning them a medal hope. See also: Brent Hayden*, Clara Hughes, Rick Say, and probably tons of other athletes in sports I don't follow. It's kind of sad reading the comments section on the globe and mail to see the number of people that actually thought he was a gold medal hope.

*Yes, he finally got a medal these games. But they were super-hyping him in 04 and 08 as well despite an extreme outside shot at the podium.

The big hope is Tara Whitten. She's awesome.

KS, Kitajima was awesome in the relay, and awesome job by Japan in the pool all of last week. You're right, he inspired an entire generation of Japanese swimmers!

OK...back to this thread...how about a bit more love for the way Gomez raced today. He was doing to either medal or end up in 30th place going with every one of Alistair Brownlee's moves. Perhaps the Brownlees were the best thing that happened to Gomez as he did not have those guys to shatter the rest of the guys in Beijing. Long wait for Gomez and huge redemption. The guy was on fire leading up to Beijing winning all those World Cups. Nice to see him in the hardware after a long wait. Last time Simon literally pulled an improbably medal away from Gomez with a sprint the blew the group apart with 400m to go, leaving Gomez hanging off the back. Redemption time this year for Gomez. Nice race by him, that he totally played out to his strengths and very gutsy going head to head with AB out of T2.
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I, too am a Canadian and had no doubt that Simon was not going to be a factor today. I was incredibly impressed with the top 3 - all deserving and really put it out there. What's most impressive with Alistair is the look on his face during the run - this dude was going so deep. One closeup showed him with snot hanging out of his nose and saliva around his mouth - he's got talent and a drive like no other. One funny note - the coverage showed a closeup of Alistair in T2 putting on his shoes and I noticed his legs aren't shaved! WTF!! Ha,ha

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I, too am a Canadian and had no doubt that Simon was not going to be a factor today. I was incredibly impressed with the top 3 - all deserving and really put it out there. What's most impressive with Alistair is the look on his face during the run - this dude was going so deep. One closeup showed him with snot hanging out of his nose and saliva around his mouth - he's got talent and a drive like no other. One funny note - the coverage showed a closeup of Alistair in T2 putting on his shoes and I noticed his legs aren't shaved! WTF!! Ha,ha


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Just a few more hours ... Sally Pearson ... we'll get those bro's.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [hectorguatemala] [ In reply to ]
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Why is the bike not 40K or 24.8 miles? I think it was listed at 26.6 miles? So the first pack averaged 27mph for the bike?
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Just a few more hours ... Sally Pearson ... we'll get those bro's.

NBL grand final karma.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [KleineGeneraal] [ In reply to ]
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Let's put some perspective into this one too. A. Brownlee was almost 4 minutes faster than the 2011 version of himself on this course (which he also dominated). He ran 29:07 after being 1 minute faster over both the bike and the swim. This was never a race---this was a coronation. That may have just been the greatest single day performance in triathlon. Ever.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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And I thought Anglophones from Quebec had this covered when we speak in French and don't know whether to use a Quebecois accent, Anglo accent or some pathetic attempt at a Parisien accent. You guys from Oz and NZ have nothing on us. We win this hands down.
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And I thought Anglophones from Quebec had this covered when we speak in French and don't know whether to use a Quebecois accent, Anglo accent or some pathetic attempt at a Parisien accent. You guys from Oz and NZ have nothing on us. We win this hands down.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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So that might take it to a new level...an Aussie woman brought up in Hong Kong speaking French with a cross between Montreal Anglophone, Aussie, Mandarin, Quebecois French and Parisien French? Sheeesh, she could beat Alistair Brownlee at anything!
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So that might take it to a new level...an Aussie woman brought up in Hong Kong speaking French with a cross between Montreal Anglophone, Aussie, Mandarin, Quebecois French and Parisien French? Sheeesh, she could beat Alistair Brownlee at anything!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [CarolinaLaw] [ In reply to ]
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[/quote]

Go to the NBC site here and it lists official times. If you click on the "+" sign, it breaks down the splits for you. Here's AB's splits:

Swim: 17:04
T1: 0:39
Bike: 59:08
T2: 0:27
Run: 29:07[/quote]

Is that a 4:41/mile? Am I doing my math right?

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [twomarks] [ In reply to ]
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Yes. The math is right.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Fooshee] [ In reply to ]
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Fooshee wrote:
Yes. The math is right.

Holy schniekies!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [twomarks] [ In reply to ]
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Is the math right for the bike too? NBC said the bike was 26.6 miles so they rode even faster than that to have it done in under an hour?
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twomarks wrote:


Go to the NBC site here and it lists official times. If you click on the "+" sign, it breaks down the splits for you. Here's AB's splits:

Swim: 17:04
T1: 0:39
Bike: 59:08
T2: 0:27
Run: 29:07[/quote]


Is that a 4:41/mile? Am I doing my math right?

twomarks[/quote]
What is intersting is that this is in the range of world record open marathon race pace at approximately the same time frame as the meat of the Men's marathon.
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devashish_paul wrote:
twomarks wrote:


Go to the NBC site here and it lists official times. If you click on the "+" sign, it breaks down the splits for you. Here's AB's splits:

Swim: 17:04
T1: 0:39
Bike: 59:08
T2: 0:27
Run: 29:07



Is that a 4:41/mile? Am I doing my math right?

twomarks[/quote]

What is intersting is that this is in the range of world record open marathon race pace at approximately the same time frame as the meat of the Men's marathon.[/quote]
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [tim21bert] [ In reply to ]
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That may have just been the greatest single day performance in triathlon. Ever.

Bam!

Let's cut right to the chase here, Al Brownlee has raised the game to a totally different level. He drives the race on the swim, bike and run. Someone asked me if drafting were not allowed, what would be the out-come. Al Brownlee would still crush it and win!.

As a Canadian and a friend, I was gutted for Simon Whitfield. He's done so much for the sport, for the country, for himself and for his family. Tough way to go out and end it all. But this may not be the very end. I think we'll see Simon on a triathlon start line soon.





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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Was there talk about retiring cold turkey from tris? I did not think this was the case. I thought he was racing 70.3's after this?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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29:07 after jogging final 100M. Easily under 29 with push to line.

For perspective. Mo Farrah won the 10K in 27:30. On a rubberized track. His warm up was......well, the first 10 laps; not 1.5K/40K.

BTW: the bike I read is 43K in London. Is that true?

I too am gutted for SQW. reading his training quotes in papers he trained to run with Vidal easily in NZ this past spring and he has proven he can run with Gomez. Crushing. Between Paula, women's soccer,and this; Canada has been taken a few chops I'd say.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [rhys] [ In reply to ]
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I'm curious, does anybody knows if the course was a legitimate 10k?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [rhys] [ In reply to ]
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I found it really tough watching a champion like Simon end his olympic career with a self generated error. That was much worse watching this than Carol Montgomery's crash in Sydney. It would have been much better seeing Simon ending his career like Hunter Kemper in the pack of the guys who gave it their best, but were one upped by Alistair and Gomez, which I think would be the realistic outcome. I think many were devaluing the 4th and 5th place by Haus and Vidal from France. These were awesome races and there is nothing to indicate that Simon would be in that mix other than our collective hope that he peaked perfectly as he did in Beijing. Real bummer that we did not get to see that happen, but just like Canadian triathlon got a bit of a shot in Beijing, it was nice to seem Spanish triathlon get the result that Gomez deserves for all his year at the top of the ITU circuit. Gomez has been amazing for triathlon for his constant contributions as a contender week in and week out. This is a just reward.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [rhys] [ In reply to ]
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rhys wrote:
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BTW: the bike I read is 43K in London. Is that true?

I believe so - NBC was saying it was 26.6 miles. No idea why that would be since the 40K bike is the Olympic distance. They don't change distance for other sports...
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it would seem that 43km is the Olympic distance

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Happy for Gomez of course, and Hunter, but the French! 16 seconds from putting all 3 in the top 10, now that's impressive.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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 not as disappointing as the soccer game.

Sorry my US friends, that was bullshit.

Onwards. Take the lumps. come back for more.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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Make no mistake A Brownlee is an international class runner. He has been UK men's cross country champion before and if he lost some swim bike kilos would be capable of getting in the uk athletics team at 10km and or marathon.


Its going to take someone who is the complete swim bike and very fast runner to beat him.

Just don't think that athlete exists any time soon.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [drfranky] [ In reply to ]
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I'm curious, does anybody knows if the course was a legitimate 10k?

They stated that it was during the women's race

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [coltank17] [ In reply to ]
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drfranky wrote:
I'm curious, does anybody knows if the course was a legitimate 10k?

They stated that it was during the women's race


Well if its the same quality of announcers as the womens race was i believe them right around zero percent.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericM35-39] [ In reply to ]
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ericM35-39 wrote:
it would seem that 43km is the Olympic distance

Well..correct - for this Olympics. Wonder if they will change the distance for the Men's Marathon too!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [johnnybefit] [ In reply to ]
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They did in 1908! Hence the 26 miles 385 yards became the standard.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Philb] [ In reply to ]
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So will the ITU change the distance now for the WC and all races going forward?

I know I am being picky, just don't understand why triathlon doesn't stick to accurate measurements for the courses - other sports do.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Zimzala1] [ In reply to ]
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Make no mistake A Brownlee is an international class runner. He has been UK men's cross country champion before and if he lost some swim bike kilos would be capable of getting in the uk athletics team at 10km and or marathon.


Its going to take someone who is the complete swim bike and very fast runner to beat him.

Just don't think that athlete exists any time soon.

Agree with almost all of this but not sure he's ever been the Britsh X-C champ - schools yes and possibly junior but I don't think he has a senior title.

In any event, with multiple 180 degree turns, a jog down the home stretch and an uneven course to contend with he ran 1 second slower than our 2nd place 10,000m runner (yes I'm aware how unfair that is but it's still a crazy stat!)



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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [johnnybefit] [ In reply to ]
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ITU does even have sprints distance races on it's WCS schedule.

I guess you are just being over picky about it (which is ok), because it's not really all that big of a deal. I'm sure with the course that they wanted to have (featuring all the British monument places), it simply was long each lap.

It's kinda a yawner, really. It doesnt really matter. All the guys are racing same course, same conditions.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Philb] [ In reply to ]
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Nice job for hunter kemper, solid race and a good way to finish. Finishing 14th with the level of competition shown today has to be a slight consolation to not getting a podium spot. Now Huerta was another story, his splits were just terrible, i applaud him for his hard work in getting to where he is but that was simply a total fail for USA triathlon. I was watching his training day video over on tri mag's site and when i saw him swim my first thought was, "wow he looks uncomfortable/slow in the water." Sure enough he swims 19min with a wetsuit, that right there takes you out of the race. Then his run split of 34:39 is again just not up to olympic standards. The swim still bothers me, if USA Tri is going to pick two people to represent the USA then pick two people who guaranteed will at least be in the main pack of swimmers. That is why i was frustrated that Chrabot was not selected, sure he most likely would not have been top 10 but he would have been mop to fop on the swim and would hammer that bike. The the USA at least gets some camera time during the race!!

Then again i don't think any american could have held on with the top three today, so in the end it really dose not matter.
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It is simply logistics. You need to build a course of between 6 and 8 laps on the local roads, ending up with a course around 40k. Marathon courses can be flexible in their start position, triathlons need to start and finish at a body of water (unless split transition). So within the criteria they ended up with a course of 43k, which would be preferable to a course of 36k if they had only 6 laps.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [-Mike-] [ In reply to ]
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if USA Tri is going to pick two people to represent the USA then pick two people who guaranteed will at least be in the main pack of swimmers.

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Mind you, USAT didnt pick those guys. They earned it through the qualification process that Chrabot went through as well. Huerta and Kemper did something that Chrabot couldnt do, and that was to qualify. So in that regards, your statement is inaccurate. Now if neither made it by qualifying and they were given discretion spots, you're point would be more valid.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [--] [ In reply to ]
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There is no British championship, but English, Scottish, etc. The nearest to a British Championships is the Inter-Counties Champs. Alistair has never won the senior title, although Jonny came 5th or 6th this year.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Philb] [ In reply to ]
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And ultimately, if you're going to fudge the numbers, adding 3km for a ride that is draft-legal won't generally dramatically change the outcome of the race. Add say 1 more kilometer to the run or 300m more to the swim (roughly the same time equivalent), and you'd quite possibly have different orders of finish.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [-Mike-] [ In reply to ]
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In the end Manny Huerta earned his spot on Team USA per the qual requirements and Chrabot did not. What happened in London does not change what happened in San Diego. Matt Chrabot had his chance and let Manny take it away.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [tim21bert] [ In reply to ]
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It is not about fudging the numbers, but setting a course in centre of a major city and working with the options you have available to you. Unless you have a dead turn, half way up a road, it is rare to get an accurate bike course drafting or not.
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drfranky wrote:
I'm curious, does anybody knows if the course was a legitimate 10k?

Apparently the run course has been measured as accurate by the same guy who certifies the London marathon course. See @tomfordyce on Twitter for details (he is chief sports writer for the BBC)

I was there today and as well as a great race it was also a great day for triathlon - the crowds lining the course were massive, 10-15 deep all round the course and making a hell of a noise! It will be very interesting to see what it does for the profile of triathlon here in the UK over the next couple of years.
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I was there too, but didn't see you! ;-) But it was an awesome atmostphere, absolutely brilliant!
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]
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Grant.Reuter wrote:
coltank17 wrote:
drfranky wrote:
I'm curious, does anybody knows if the course was a legitimate 10k?


They stated that it was during the women's race



Well if its the same quality of announcers as the womens race was i believe them right around zero percent.

I was watching the replay on nbcolympics.com, they didn't have any announcers for the men's race

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [thndrmatt] [ In reply to ]
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thndrmatt wrote:
So all you need for a gold is a 1:46 oly? zooooooooiiiiiiiiiiikes

But remember it was a 26.6 mi bike, not 24.8, so an extra 4 min or so on the bike ==> 1:42 for standard OD.


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zamm0 wrote:
i'm only winding you up. there's only one medal.


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [ericmulk] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, thinking the same thing. Brownlee was so strong today- that 1:42 comes as he drove the race in all three disciplines. No sitting in. Just an awesome display of power.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I am not at all contesting that Huerta earned his spot correctly and justly, rather i am suggesting that the USA selection system needs attention. As a US citizen i don't care about who qualified, i care about sending the two best triathletes to represent the USA at the olympics.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [coltank17] [ In reply to ]
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coltank17 wrote:
Grant.Reuter wrote:
coltank17 wrote:
drfranky wrote:
I'm curious, does anybody knows if the course was a legitimate 10k?


They stated that it was during the women's race



Well if its the same quality of announcers as the womens race was i believe them right around zero percent.


I was watching the replay on nbcolympics.com, they didn't have any announcers for the men's race

wow. that sucks. NBCs approach to the olympics is such a fail.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [-Mike-] [ In reply to ]
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According to YOUR selection process, Hunter and Manny Huerta were the two best guys the USA had for London. Just like according to our Canadian selection process, Paula Findlay and Kathy Trembley were the two best women. Now just like you disagree with the US selection process, I hate the Canadian selection process by committee :-). I'd much rather have seen Brault qualify outright for the Canadian womean just like Huerta did for the US men. I prefer when the athletes settle who is the "best" on the field of play, and not let random selectors with political slants and other power plays decide in the back room. All the drama generated by Simon's tweets would have been immaterial if we just had selection races in Sydney, San Diego or Madrid to pick out team. Then it would be clear that Findlay was not ready to race. At least Manny proved that he was more ready than Matt, and we can't take that away from him. Matt never proved that he was the best man. Anything else is just conjecture.
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Well the problem is, i'm not really sure what selection process you'd want to change too. My guess though is that at the next selection the athlete wtih the best/most points will get an "auto" spot (IE, the best points chaser), and then we'll also have one (or more*) qualifying races to fill the rest of the team, and then discretion slots if needed.

I dont think Chrabot or Shoemaker were any better qualified for a 1 shot deal over any of the 2 guys that qualified. I honestly think we could draw them out of a hat, and we'd have finishes like we had today (maybe they do better than Huerta's bad swim, but finishing outside top 3 really doesnt matter in terms of exposure at the olympics).

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Biggest thing I'm actually excited/proud of is just the pressure of this race and the results that happened today. The 3 biggest names in the sport, all stepped up and represented the best of the best and that has me stoked. I'm super happy for all 3 of those guys, as they have been the clear cut best guys over the last few years.

I'm proud of the ITU racing these past 2 races. Photo finish in the women's race and a world class all time performance in the other.

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r0bh wrote:
It will be very interesting to see what it does for the profile of triathlon here in the UK over the next couple of years.


Not too much I hope: it's hard enough getting into the races as it is.

More seriously, that was a terrific race. Nice to see a couple of fell runners showing the rest of the World how to do it.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed, a tough way to end it for a class act. The following article shows how much he put into this race as well - at a point in his life where it is harder to do it (I have daughters the same age).

http://sports.nationalpost.com/...h-define-his-career/

BTW, we actually spoke in Kingston Dev, but I didn't realize it was you (meaning Dev from ST fame) till later. Never saw you on the course though. Wild day.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Il Falco] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry I did not hang around in Kingston....when they converted the 2K swim 56K bike-15K run tri to a 7.5k run-56K bike-15K run duathlon on account of the 70 kph wind gusts and the crazy waves that made it difficult for rescue staff to go out on the water, I decided that with an IM in 2 weeks, this would be too much running. Rather than tempt myself by hanging around, I thought the safest thing would be to hand in my timing chip and ensure that I did not even get tempted to race.

It was very cool that Simon Whitfield called in from London UK and wished the competitors good luck....just before the Typhoon like storm blew in. Amazing that the guy would take time out of his Olympic prep to call into the local race in his home town.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Great, another mistake in my IMMT prep.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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so much for training in a volcano.....sorry about sw
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Philb] [ In reply to ]
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Philb wrote:
It is simply logistics. You need to build a course of between 6 and 8 laps on the local roads, ending up with a course around 40k. Marathon courses can be flexible in their start position, triathlons need to start and finish at a body of water (unless split transition). So within the criteria they ended up with a course of 43k, which would be preferable to a course of 36k if they had only 6 laps.

I see your point but it just seems to make it less 'Olympic' to have changed the distance. But it has always bothered me when a race was not the adverstised distance - either short or long - and am a bit shocked to see it so for the biggest stage in sport.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [johnnybefit] [ In reply to ]
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Personally, I'm happy so long as they are truthful with the actual distances. No two courses are the same anyway.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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It was very cool that Simon Whitfield called in from London UK and wished the competitors good luck....just before the Typhoon like storm blew in. Amazing that the guy would take time out of his Olympic prep to call into the local race in his home town.

All class!





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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Philb] [ In reply to ]
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Philb wrote:
It is simply logistics. You need to build a course of between 6 and 8 laps on the local roads, ending up with a course around 40k. Marathon courses can be flexible in their start position, triathlons need to start and finish at a body of water (unless split transition). So within the criteria they ended up with a course of 43k, which would be preferable to a course of 36k if they had only 6 laps.

I just don't buy that though. The Marathon found it's way back just fine to the start (after 3.2 laps) to be the correct distance. The triathlon bike course was a looping out and back. They could have sliced it down to 6 laps and slightly extended it at the far end.

I hear ya on local events (though, really, I don't) - but we're talking the Olympics here. If not a place for getting the distance standardized - why bother at all?


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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
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dcrainmaker wrote:
Philb wrote:
It is simply logistics. You need to build a course of between 6 and 8 laps on the local roads, ending up with a course around 40k. Marathon courses can be flexible in their start position, triathlons need to start and finish at a body of water (unless split transition). So within the criteria they ended up with a course of 43k, which would be preferable to a course of 36k if they had only 6 laps.


I just don't buy that though. The Marathon found it's way back just fine to the start (after 3.2 laps) to be the correct distance. The triathlon bike course was a looping out and back. They could have sliced it down to 6 laps and slightly extended it at the far end.

I hear ya on local events (though, really, I don't) - but we're talking the Olympics here. If not a place for getting the distance standardized - why bother at all?

I agree when we have the threads about folks complaining that a AG course is not accurate to the "Olympic" distance, all we need to say now is London and we no longer have to worry about it. Clearly there is no accurate "Olympic" distance for racing.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
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The only thing I would say though is that there really isnt a "standard" for the distances like there is in marathon racing. Let me rephase, there is "standard" distances obviously but there isnt this huge idea about comparing race A to race B (marathon races are always compared to WR times, etc, but you never hear about how ITU races are on pace for a record, etc.). Go look at ITU Kitzbuhl, and I think that has a long bike leg as well. It just kinda is what it is (maybe that's a bad reason/excuse). There really are no ITU time "records", or atleast none that I've never seen talked about.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
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dcrainmaker wrote:
Philb wrote:
It is simply logistics. You need to build a course of between 6 and 8 laps on the local roads, ending up with a course around 40k. Marathon courses can be flexible in their start position, triathlons need to start and finish at a body of water (unless split transition). So within the criteria they ended up with a course of 43k, which would be preferable to a course of 36k if they had only 6 laps.


I just don't buy that though. The Marathon found it's way back just fine to the start (after 3.2 laps) to be the correct distance. The triathlon bike course was a looping out and back. They could have sliced it down to 6 laps and slightly extended it at the far end.

I hear ya on local events (though, really, I don't) - but we're talking the Olympics here. If not a place for getting the distance standardized - why bother at all?

So glad others feel the same. Since I started in triathlon in 1991 it was the 'international' distance and then the 'olympic' distance = 1.5S, 40K B, 10K run. Just think it is not good for the sport to not remain faithful to the distance as they do in other olympic events.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Like Neil Young sang:

Better to burn out, than fade away.....

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
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dcrainmaker wrote:
Philb wrote:
It is simply logistics. You need to build a course of between 6 and 8 laps on the local roads, ending up with a course around 40k. Marathon courses can be flexible in their start position, triathlons need to start and finish at a body of water (unless split transition). So within the criteria they ended up with a course of 43k, which would be preferable to a course of 36k if they had only 6 laps.


I just don't buy that though. The Marathon found it's way back just fine to the start (after 3.2 laps) to be the correct distance. The triathlon bike course was a looping out and back. They could have sliced it down to 6 laps and slightly extended it at the far end.

I hear ya on local events (though, really, I don't) - but we're talking the Olympics here. If not a place for getting the distance standardized - why bother at all?


It's like IMNZ. In the past few years (2006 and 2012) the race has been shortened to around 1/2 distance. Those are the only two years Cameron Brown hasn't won it in the last 12? years?

Getting the distances right is important. Some athletes come from behind and others have a sprint finish. It the course is short or long, by even a little bit, the wrong athlete (for lack of a better term) may win the race.

At an event like the Olympics, there is NO excuse for getting it wrong? Imagine having the swimming pool being too short or long? Or the 20kg weights for the weightlifters being too heavy? Yeah right. They got the marathon right so surely to all that's Holy, they could get the Tri course the right length.

With modern technology, they should be able to get the finish line with millimetres of being exact!

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [johnnybefit] [ In reply to ]
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I know I am being picky, just don't understand why triathlon doesn't stick to accurate measurements for the courses - other sports do.


They keep changing the distances because they can't measure the courses properly. This gives them an out so they can just claim it is a different length course today.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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As a Canadian and a friend, I was gutted for Simon Whitfield. He's done so much for the sport, for the country, for himself and for his family. Tough way to go out and end it all.


Agreed.

I also don't understand some of the comments on this thread in regard to Simon. A few posters, they know who they are, seem almost giddy that Simon went down and I just don't get that kind of response towards anyone, let alone someone of Simon's character.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [FJB] [ In reply to ]
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FJB wrote:
As a Canadian and a friend, I was gutted for Simon Whitfield. He's done so much for the sport, for the country, for himself and for his family. Tough way to go out and end it all.


Agreed.

I also don't understand some of the comments on this thread in regard to Simon. A few posters, they know who they are, seem almost giddy that Simon went down and I just don't get that kind of response towards anyone, let alone someone of Simon's character.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [tridork] [ In reply to ]
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tridork wrote:
dcrainmaker wrote:
Philb wrote:
It is simply logistics. You need to build a course of between 6 and 8 laps on the local roads, ending up with a course around 40k. Marathon courses can be flexible in their start position, triathlons need to start and finish at a body of water (unless split transition). So within the criteria they ended up with a course of 43k, which would be preferable to a course of 36k if they had only 6 laps.


I just don't buy that though. The Marathon found it's way back just fine to the start (after 3.2 laps) to be the correct distance. The triathlon bike course was a looping out and back. They could have sliced it down to 6 laps and slightly extended it at the far end.

I hear ya on local events (though, really, I don't) - but we're talking the Olympics here. If not a place for getting the distance standardized - why bother at all?



It's like IMNZ. In the past few years (2006 and 2012) the race has been shortened to around 1/2 distance. Those are the only two years Cameron Brown hasn't won it in the last 12? years?

Getting the distances right is important. Some athletes come from behind and others have a sprint finish. It the course is short or long, by even a little bit, the wrong athlete (for lack of a better term) may win the race.

At an event like the Olympics, there is NO excuse for getting it wrong? Imagine having the swimming pool being too short or long? Or the 20kg weights for the weightlifters being too heavy? Yeah right. They got the marathon right so surely to all that's Holy, they could get the Tri course the right length.

With modern technology, they should be able to get the finish line with millimetres of being exact!

Thank you for this post, my feelings exactly.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [tridork] [ In reply to ]
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Some athletes come from behind and others have a sprint finish. It the course is short or long, by even a little bit, the wrong athlete (for lack of a better term) may win the race.

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Just for accuracy and clarification, I dont think they ever stated that it was a 40k bike. I think all the national federations/athlete/coaches knew what the distance was on the bike (they had the test event in 2011).

Now, should it have been 40k, yeah probaly, but just wanted people to know that there was no surprises here. It was well established before hand what the actual distance was going to be used.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
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From a purely triathlon perspective, you could have made a longer lap and so cut it to 6 laps. But how much further would this have disrupted London? When designing a course, there are far more things to take into account than simply the length of the course; What will the effect be on traffic, emergency access, access to businesses, security and crown control to name a few.

Setting the marathon easy, since you can adjust the positioning of the start/finish to get the correct distance. You cannot move the lake or adjust the road layout, you have to work with what you have got.
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Zimzala1 wrote:
Make no mistake A Brownlee is an international class runner. He has been UK men's cross country champion before and if he lost some swim bike kilos would be capable of getting in the uk athletics team at 10km and or marathon.


Its going to take someone who is the complete swim bike and very fast runner to beat him.

Just don't think that athlete exists any time soon.


Agree with almost all of this but not sure he's ever been the Britsh X-C champ - schools yes and possibly junior but I don't think he has a senior title.

In any event, with multiple 180 degree turns, a jog down the home stretch and an uneven course to contend with he ran 1 second slower than our 2nd place 10,000m runner (yes I'm aware how unfair that is but it's still a crazy stat!)

Actually Jonny has had the best x country result. 5th this year in the Inter Countries. Which isn't the National but is more competitive than the National because only 6 from each country (state) race. Ali raced U23 European a while ago and didn't have a great run 49th (somewhere around) there. I don't think either of them are under any illustration that they could be internationally competitive runners. In an interview with the BBC Ali said it well that that we extra 90/120 seconds they would need to be competitive is a lot of work.

Anyway why change they are pretty good at triathlon.

I would love to see the Brownlee's and Sprigg race 70.3 WC. I don't see why Sprigg wouldn't win. With the Brownlee's I don't know if they have TT bikes but it would make for an interesting race.

I wonder if they will do a couple of the big money races in the states now to cash in?
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [dcrainmaker] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, just so everyone's clear.

The new London bike course was implemented at last year's WCS race. It was made longer to allow for the bit going past Buckingham Palace.

Everyone knew it was a 43km course. If you follow ITU racing at all you would have known for over 12 months that this year's Olympics was going to have a 43km bike course.

What does it matter? Everyone raced the same course, AB just raced it a whole lot better than everyone else.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [downesy] [ In reply to ]
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downesy wrote:
Ok, just so everyone's clear.

The new London bike course was implemented at last year's WCS race. It was made longer to allow for the bit going past Buckingham Palace.

Everyone knew it was a 43km course. If you follow ITU racing at all you would have known for over 12 months that this year's Olympics was going to have a 43km bike course.

What does it matter? Everyone raced the same course, AB just raced it a whole lot better than everyone else.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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i think that maybe the fanatical attachment to the 1.5-40-10 is a uniquely american obsession. i'm looking at setting up my racing season and the distances so far look like this:

intervall duathlon: 4k run - 16k bike - 4k run - 16k bike - 4k run
inferno triathlon: 3.1k swim - 93k bike - 30k mountain bike - 25k run
schaffhausen triathlon: 5k swim - 59k bike - 15k run
monaco triathlon: 1k swim - 100k bike - 10k run

the euros just seem to roll a little different, and after so many years in the sport i'm interesting in mixing it up. if i want a shot at my 10k PB i can strap on a GPS and go for it. but as an athlete my interest is much more in just being on the start line and trying out a different/beautiful/tough race and testing myself against the competition.

i'll make the important distinction here of races who incorrectly advertise their distances. that's NOT what happened in london, but does happen all the bloody time in triathlon, even at the highest levels. witness lessing and co setting several single-sport world records at World's in cleveland, or carol montgomery (maybe) getting robbed of a medal by a short run at worlds in oz. that's inexcusable.

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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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pardon my ignorance can someone please explain something to me Im new at all this. AB ran the 10km in 29:07 with a walk at the end after doing a 1.5km swim and 43km ride, the 10k track race was won in like 27mins with no swim or bike before hand?????

Could AB not have won the 10km track race considering he would be fresh without having to do the swim and bike first would he be able take these guys out??? To me seems like he could gain 2mins without having to do the swim and bike first surely that took some energy out of him?

thanks
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Bone crusher] [ In reply to ]
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The simple answer is no. The track 10km was a slow tactical affair until the closing laps. AB was going flat out from the start on his run. The reason they are top triathletes is that they can run very close to their best during the tri. He could run quicker, but probably not as quick as he would be required to run in a track race. He has admitted this himself in interviews.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [Bone crusher] [ In reply to ]
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The wifes best for 10km when at her best was 33 and change whether stand alone or off the bike - give or take a handful of seconds.

There's not alot in it at the real top end.

So if you're imagining AB being dropped onto the start line of the 10,000, with the same training he'd done prior, you wouldn't see the 2 min improvement you're eluding to.

However, if he trained solely for track you would surely see improvement on his 10,000m time. How much though I have no idea.
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Re: Men's 2012 London Olympics Triathlon live (**spoiler) [downesy] [ In reply to ]
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downesy wrote:
Ok, just so everyone's clear.

The new London bike course was implemented at last year's WCS race. It was made longer to allow for the bit going past Buckingham Palace.

Everyone knew it was a 43km course. If you follow ITU racing at all you would have known for over 12 months that this year's Olympics was going to have a 43km bike course.

What does it matter? Everyone raced the same course, AB just raced it a whole lot better than everyone else.

I don't think anyone's surprised by it, as you said, it's the same course. Everyone's simply saying it's silly. We wouldn't change the 10K run distance, would we?


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iron_mike wrote:
i think that maybe the fanatical attachment to the 1.5-40-10 is a uniquely american obsession. i'm looking at setting up my racing season and the distances so far look like this:

intervall duathlon: 4k run - 16k bike - 4k run - 16k bike - 4k run
inferno triathlon: 3.1k swim - 93k bike - 30k mountain bike - 25k run
schaffhausen triathlon: 5k swim - 59k bike - 15k run
monaco triathlon: 1k swim - 100k bike - 10k run

the euros just seem to roll a little different, and after so many years in the sport i'm interesting in mixing it up. if i want a shot at my 10k PB i can strap on a GPS and go for it. but as an athlete my interest is much more in just being on the start line and trying out a different/beautiful/tough race and testing myself against the competition.

i'll make the important distinction here of races who incorrectly advertise their distances. that's NOT what happened in london, but does happen all the bloody time in triathlon, even at the highest levels. witness lessing and co setting several single-sport world records at World's in cleveland, or carol montgomery (maybe) getting robbed of a medal by a short run at worlds in oz. that's inexcusable.

-mike

It's not an American Obsession. There are anal retentive distance geeks all around the world. I am proud to include myself in that group, and I'm a Kiwi/Canadian.

Marathons are 42.2km. Oly tri's are 1.5km, 40km bike, 10km! simple and relatively easy to get it right.

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